How life is changing for Italy's gay families - BBC News

[@mz6367]

“The children deserve the best “? Yeah by being discriminated against,by being left out,by seeing his /her parents tear apart??! What a world that we live in!

[@Bazroshan]

'...by being discriminated against...' is the perfect example of begging the question. What you say would be right if your position in the discussion were right, but the matter has not been decided yet. If you are wrong, the question of discrimination should not arise.

[@jasy5288]

intentionally creating a child with people we don't love or strangers, a child who will be an orphan of a father or mother, as if he were a product, without having that relational continuity with his own mother or father, being created to be abandoned by them because they considered them Is a charity service for gay couples or singles not discriminatory and not an abuse? It is criminal to create a child without a father or mother and these children are born already discriminated against, not having the same possibilities that nature has given to other newborns, that is, not to be abandoned by their parents, and to have a father and a mother who are do they take care of you and fulfill their parental role as nature dictates, unless you consider maternal or paternal abandonment natural, and is it normal for you to abandon children?

[@Master_Blackthorne]

@@jasy5288 It's also "unnatural" to have an appendectomy. Perhaps you'd feel better if they'd just let the appendix burst? cretinos like you are just using recycled bigotry.

[@CF.]

Children deserve both a mother and a father. Period. I’m sorry if that’s inconvenient for gay people.

[@andrewdrewandy]

@@CF.i agree, but personally i wish i didn’t have both, very crazy, not all heterosexual families are perfect

[@jfm14]

I can't think of anything more anti-family than threatening to imprison parents for becoming parents.

[@davet9900]

i can- gay parenting.

[@femboyacolyte7833]

​@@davet9900Would you mind explaining how gay parents are anti-family? Gay marriage actually benefits society and family because gay people adopt more often than straight people, bringing kids out of the foster care system and into loving homes. It's pro family.

[@davidperry4013]

There are children that are raised by 2 dads or 2 moms instead of a mom and a dad that are having awesome childhoods.

[@is17a985]

@@davidperry4013They are being brainwashed.

[@NicolaFossi]

​@@is17a985No. You are the brainwashed one, and also a coward

[@luyandachamane2093]

"We want a healthy environment for children to grow up in"... jails two loving parents, how does that work. Millions of children grow up with abusive mothers and fathers, where is the concern there? What happened to grow and multiply? Europe has a declining population if two loving people are willing to expand their love by welcoming a new person into their life, what is the issue?

[@marcK599]

Kids should be protected from perverts....weird little freak

[@marcK599]

Pervert apologist

[@KLV1994]

Couldn't agree more !?! 🥰❤Xxx

[@luyandachamane2093]

Definitely! However I don't see what that has to do with parents who want to raise kids (regardless of their orientation) . @@marcK599

[@cheekytron22]

​@marcK599 yet it's you and the churches grooming and raping kids

[@jacksonmanthanero9240]

Homosexuality has always been part of Italian History most of the Roman empire's had love affairs with fellow men & it wasn't a crime

[@StopCensorship4--03]

They didn't traffick kids like today's alphabet circus.

[@JordiSal-p9q]

I miss when.....

[@matiacolusso5509]

If only these politicians would put half the commitment they put in judging people's sexual choices into fixing the problems of the country, Italy would become a paradise

[@Lloyd-m7n]

Its not love, its lust

[@richard7645]

If only love was as contiguous as hate

[@irp5419]

Surrogacy should be illegal for ALL. It is not LOVING, and anybody who promote this is not considered loving and should be stopped.

[@marcK599]

Don't confuse love with perversion you soft little man

[@James-oj8kq]

But babies shouldn’t be affected with selfishness of gay people.

[@danomyte67]

@@James-oj8kqfound the homophobe

[@enneaf1676]

Define love.

[@1jacobge]

Worse than pedos?! Is this just a really bad joke like what is going though his head.

[@NoahTinker]

I think he drank too much espresso. He's wired a bit too tight.

[@marcK599]

All pedos start out gay

[@django3422]

​@@marcK599They don't, actually.

[@marcK599]

@@django3422 They do

[@django3422]

@@marcK599 When there's plenty documented cases of heterosexual men who were found to be paedophiles, I think it's safe to say we're gonna ignore you for being an idiot.

[@katjaxxx7353]

The Italian prime minister is a nightmare! I think kids need nice and loving parents that's all

[@giselameunier4788]

but not lesbien and gay parents

[@sneh9158]

The Italian prime minister is a nightmare! I think kids need nice and loving parents that's all, it doesn't matter if they are straight or gay.

[@bluecontroller6857]

It's not a nightmare, it's expected, she believes in the same things as Benito Mussolini

[@paigeandmiamagicbeautygirl2988]

Exactly my aunt is lesbian with two kids love is more important than what sexuailty than parents are . The kids don't care that their mother likes woman they have the love and support they wouldn't have had otherwise especially as they were both three when adopted so have memories before of not so nice shit

[@alexanderwalker3906]

First they came for the LGBT community, And I immediately spoke out because I know how the original version of this poem ends.

[@killhomophobes11]

thanks for your allyship icon

[@tastypymp1287]

​@@killhomophobes11👈woke zombie

[@georgeorwell-il2wz]

​@@killhomophobes11Woke

[@titteryenot4524]

@@tastypymp1287 _Woke zombie._ 👈Ad hominem statement based on personal feeling. Not an argument.😊

[@georgeorwell-il2wz]

@@titteryenot4524👈 Projection.

[@tadolph82]

Christians be like: "Love your neighbor...and take away their kids!!". barbaric and disgraceful

[@tastypymp1287]

Pipe down bigot

[@titteryenot4524]

@@tastypymp1287 Ad hominem. Last resort of those without an argument.😊

[@julia2k8]

Groomers deserve no love or respect

[@tastypymp1287]

@@titteryenot4524 Intellectual cowardice. First resort of those without an argument.

[@titteryenot4524]

@@tastypymp1287 Ad hominem. Last resort of those without an argument.😊

[@zapfanzapfan]

Shouldn't they celebrate anyone wanting to raise kids in Italy to slow down the population decline?

[@JohnofthefamilySmith]

The globalists want to depopulate the world by 95% and hope to achieve that by 2040.

[@lexruptor]

You would think, but some people would rather watch others burn simply for being different than them, even at risk to themselves. They don't care if they get burned too, they feel compelled to attack anyone different. It's really tragic.

[@marcK599]

​@@lexruptorperverts should never have access to children.

[@jamiejones8508]

Good point re population decline. But the religious right never did do logic.

[@economieliberale5189]

Italian youth and qualified people are fleeing the country, only the elderly will remain. Gays will leave the country with their money and their children. Italy is losing on all counts, the conservatives are lucky that this country is loved by international tourists (who fill the country's coffers with foreign money), because otherwise Italy would have already become Libya or the Somalia.

[@danomyte67]

Absolutely deplorable actions from the italian government

[@giacomolyman11]

Note that Italy isn't all that different from the other EU countries and ought not be singled out.

[@blckmb]

@@giacomolyman11 Overwhelming majority in all Western European countries support surrogacy.

[@AMANWITHAPLAN149]

It’s Italy’s own government they are trying to improve and Italy is very religious also so

[@danomyte67]

@@AMANWITHAPLAN149 so? Religion shouldn’t supersede rights

[@Ipernova]

@@danomyte67 surrogacy is not a right. being a parent is not a right. buying kids is not a fkin right!!

[@cherylj7460]

I hope that, if these families must leave the country, they do it soon enough. History shows us tragedy’s occurred to those who stayed a bit too long.

[@marcK599]

Pervert apologists like you should be arrested

[@MagicBus-ct7fe]

That would great. Less AIDS and monkeypox. But they shouldn't leave with their abused victims.

[@economieliberale5189]

You're right. The smart ones always sense the storms coming and jump ship early. The stupidest are devoured. Italy is on a very bad slope.

[@parrotcracker6629]

@@MagicBus-ct7fe Do you truly make up nonsense and then believe it? You have to stop these delusions.

[@MichelaRossini]

Goodbye 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻

[@remyatempest6700]

And this is why Seperation of church and state is soooo important. Religion (Abrahamic ones) have never been good for the society

[@ΣωκράτηςΠαρίσης]

Greek paganism - the 12 gods.

[@GFA411]

Come on, it's only regarding the LGBTQ stuff but the rest is normal I guess.

[@paigeandmiamagicbeautygirl2988]

Love is to most important thing who what sex the parents are my aunt is lesbian and has two kids they don't care they have the love and support they would not have had otherwise .

[@binghamguevara6814]

The greatest thing abrahamic religion did is establish man-woman marriage. And you secular liberals have destroyed that.

[@catholicmeditation1560]

*atheistic religion 💅

[@cn4070]

Sadly the prime minister has not a traditional family anymore since she split from her boyfriend and her childs father, maybe she should reconsider her ideology.

[@ericastones1052]

This is where the church shouldn't inference the government.

[@isaacthegoat1432]

🤡

[@DrJams]

Don't have children and be the end of the family line

[@NickKerr-w8g]

I am a gay Italian and I want gay Italian boys to have freedom in Italy to be gay.

[@Ipernova]

...guarda che sei liberissimo di andare a caxxi, semplicemente comprare bambini per giocare alla famigliola non è un diritto. nè tuo, nè degli etero.

[@MichelaRossini]

​@@Ipernovabravo!

[@ΣωκράτηςΠαρίσης]

In Greece gay marriage was voted. You can live here. Greece and Italy are quite close.

[@renyzaka6695]

​@@ΣωκράτηςΠαρίσης no grece falling

[@jamiejones8508]

It would be really nice to hear the phrase “influence of the Catholic Church” in conjunction with something positive for once. I’m no expert, but I honestly don’t think Jesus would be impressed- and I mean that with respect.

[@ΣωκράτηςΠαρίσης]

Except Mousolini who attacked Greece, Morozini who bombarded the Parthenon, crusaders destroyed Constantinople in 1204 and took all the gold, recognized the independence of Albania, gave guns to Kemal Ataturk. Wow Italy you are so friendly it's impossible for me to breathe. hahahaha

[@lavieestduresansconfiture3912]

Living in Italy I can only say that the atmosphere changed since this horrible Meloni took over. The driving got more agressive, a sick masculinity is shown everywhere. Not my Italy anymore.

[@Ipernova]

LOL ma piantala di raccontare fesserie diocristo

[@MichelaRossini]

In fact this new Italy is better.

[@ΣωκράτηςΠαρίσης]

I am sorry for gays in Italy. But you can come in Greece, we need to raise the population.

[@DrJams]

​@@ΣωκράτηςΠαρίσηςso have kids not have gays

[@mantisslayurfavs]

​@@MichelaRossini u can stay there id you want

[@stud28gr]

I feel so sad for these families and also so proud that at the beginning of next month, we are legalizing same-sex marriages in Greece.

[@DrJams]

Well that's the end of Greece.

[@renyzaka6695]

Im sorry for you grece peolpe god save grece from lgbt from italy

[@stud28gr]

@@renyzaka6695 God save us from people like you!!

[@stud28gr]

@@DrJams cry some beach!

[@ihisineri]

Love is love, but selling and buying babies is not. Morally way worse than prostitution, since it affects the most innocent

[@stopcensorship7705]

Water is water, do you drink from 🚽 ?

[@ihisineri]

@@stopcensorship7705 😆

[@ihisineri]

@@stopcensorship7705 you are correct, both statements are just as stupid

[@MagicBus-ct7fe]

​@@stopcensorship7705I mean if i was one of these gay dog fetishists then definitely yes.

[@kikalemba2391]

The lawmakers are also parents too. And they should think twice before implementing the laws. They dont know what people are going through or other families are going through. Please stop this selfish act. Where is love where is kindness where is humanity. Are lawmakers perefect no they are not . We are only just imperfect human beings we make mistakes but this is too much. Hope justice is served for the people who are going through though times. Dont worry because every little thing is gonna be alright.

[@isaacthegoat1432]

Surrogacy is unethical.

[@FoxyFox999]

She's anti everything. What a fabulous fascist ❤

[@cameliaac]

Fun that prostitution is accepted, but surrogacy and adopting children is illegal.

[@generaldealing8132]

You are completely wrong and get your facts right your views are rather subjective.adoption is legal by normal nuclear family it’s only not possible either by single mum or dad or two same sex

[@cameliaac]

@@generaldealing8132 True, i only know what the clip says. From what you're saying, its better that a child grows up without parents (in the care of the state) than having just one mom that really wants kids but can't have them for some reason? (I'm really asking)

[@badkataeuw97]

Prostituion is illegal too, what r u talking about lmao

[@cameliaac]

@@badkataeuw97 I said accepted, not legal. Also, internet says "Prostitution is legal (it is not mentioned in the Penal Code), and brothels and pimping are illegal.". I get your point, adoption is not illegal, just restricted.

[@lexruptor]

I think it's time we stop letting others decide our rights. We are Gay, we are still MEN. You can decide what I can or can't do over my dead body, and lemme tell ya, I'm not planning to die for a very long time, and will fight like hell before then. I say it's time we gays stand up and fight. Mobilize, and push back. Walk up into the offices of power, and don't denand better from someone in charge, BE the person in charge, and make the changes. Run for office, run for local and community leadership positions, homophobia is a disease we must wipe out, and to do so we'll have to essentially be soldiers

[@noemugisha7173]

You do not know what you stupid are doing. You want to lead the world into the hell like people from Sodom and Gomorrah did. God will surely punish you severely. I am not sure if you really have! brains

[@titteryenot4524]

@@noemugisha7173 Why is it that the most rabid homophobes are brainwashed delusionals upholding an unverified and unverifiable invisible sky daddy?

[@katrionalaurenm]

Yea you are indeed still 'men' - and you also clearly feel entitled to exploit vulnerable women and use their bodies like appliances. These women who are forced into incubating babies are also human people. They deserve protection and rights too. The world doesn't revolve around you gay boys and your feelings.

[@titteryenot4524]

@@katrionalaurenm Er, I think you’ll find the women acting as surrogate mothers _consent_ to do so. Nice try, though.👍

[@hilarymiseroy]

You are needed in Kabul

[@xelakram]

Is Giorgia Meloni such a paragon of virtue? Is her own personal life impeccable? The measures taken by the Italian government against innocent gay people smacks of hypocrisy.

[@jamess4869]

Just wrong!!

[@NileshVerma-rd3jy]

It's wrong le Uganda LGBT very happy Italy

[@COS947-o2t]

Italy is a very religious country so they’re not really open to these topics.

[@At0ThEb]

Lets make sure every kid has at least SOMEONE before arguing about who shouldnt.

[@frograna1897]

Finally. Lead the way Italy!! Kids are between a Marriage of a MAN AND A WOMAN!!

[@revontulet2000]

si ma impara l'inglese

[@loyi-kyong]

So sad for all these gay couples with children of their own. I hope theyccan live peacefully and freely.

[@Britlurker]

Are you? Or are you just virtue signaling?

[@stopcensorship7705]

No rights for groomers.

[@wunywon]

@@stopcensorship7705Forcing people to follow christianity is grooming. You’re the groomer

[@hievey1369]

@@stopcensorship7705how are they groomers?

[@ConstructiveMinds100]

At the very end "becoming a father without not exploiting anybody" Logic thrown away with a baby rights.

[@blckmb]

Surrogacy is a normal practise. It works perfectly well in many jurisdictions. It is necessary to help gay couples and infertile women.

[@Ipernova]

@@blckmb the last thing anyone can say about surrogacy is that it's "necessary" LOL no tf it's NOT.

[@uwu6714]

People those days thinks so selfishly without knowing what could happen to those children and how the way they grow in can effect them

[@Nightbird.]

As part of a Gay couple I am so glad that my partner and I decided not to move to Italy. Yes, the cost of living is lower, it is full of delicious food and art, and has beautiful landscapes. But none of that is enough to risk our lives and families in a country with a Govt so perverted and hell bent on destroying LGBT+ families. Good luck to all of these beautiful gay families, and I hope you can either win this battle or get out before these ignorant politicians destroy you and everything you have worked so hard to achieve.

[@StopCensorship4--03]

Way to twist morals upside down and erase mothers, you vile groømers should have your rights stripped away worldwide.

[@petercat4612]

The leeches in the comments are just pathetic. They better stay in their parents' basements where they belong. Anyway I didn't know it was this big, I heard they were trying to make it illegal but only in Italy. They barely talk about it on TV over here and not even this detailed either.

[@clefnoteproductions6695]

Maybe in Italy, gays and lesbians should raise families together giving the illusion of being a straight family in the eyes of the Italia government

[@NeeleshVerma-s2e]

😂😂I think gays and lesbians are very happy in Italy just look at in Uganda or muslim countries😂😂

[@davidadiwego4608]

Meloni is simply prepping Italian society for its impending Muslim-majority demographic shift. Why would anyone not want Italy made most accommodating for muslims? A: islamophobia 😌

[@shax3364]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Mohammadali-cs8gi]

are you gay? trying to divert peoples attention

[@Cryptisss]

Italy has a big natality problem and still barks when they see a new born lol.

[@titteryenot4524]

Never got the “hate what another human does when it comes to their sexual orientation” memo. Makes utterly no sense. I tend to dislike people for their ideas, their beliefs, their opinions, their dress-sense, and not something over which they have utterly no say or control. It’s like dissing people with different skin colour. Pointless. Not only pointless, but totally stupid and moronic, as no one chooses their skin colour, just as no one chooses their sexuality. But here’s the clincher for me: even if we *did* choose our skin colour and sexuality, it still wouldn’t bother me one iota that some random has a different skin colour or sexuality. The sooner we can move beyond this primitive nonsense as a species, the better. To me, being homophobic is a bit like feeling resentful of someone digging Uranus because you’re not an astronomer! 🔭

[@Ibn_Abdulaziz]

If the lgbt people of the earth were given a piece of land to settle in without anyone interfering with them, would they had wanted that? Would women want to live there and be surrogotes for them? If your existence is dependent on people who get married and have children, then how did you expect to pass one generation of existence without coming to the conclusion that your lifestyle is against human existence?

[@JesusIstheNameTakenInVain]

A very contradictory comment. But whatever. 😂 .. To a born again defo) other beliefs ? Not so sure. Why should my experience of salvation be just an idea? You say belief? Didn't have a bible at the time. It's a slippery slope tho I'd argue. On the one hand you say I'm not bothered what others do. But what if animals were being abused for instance. Or worse. So yeah your comment doesn't really stack up I'd argue. Couldent they just turn round and say its my sexual preference.? What If its worse again? Rape what if someone say well its my sexual preference. I think this comment of mine shows the need of morals. Cos anyone can just say well its love. But then if two consenting adults really want to be together but cannot naturally birth children does that mean they should have children? I would always want children birthed and loved. But thats me. So while it could be said not ideal. The main thing is the child and that it has a chance. Ideal is not law. Love is not for some but is the higher law I'd argue.

[@tastypymp1287]

Copypasta. Can't even be bothered to draft a different take on it.

[@titteryenot4524]

@@tastypymp1287 Not an argument. 😊

[@tastypymp1287]

@@titteryenot4524 Ahhh, *resorts to repetitive evasive behaviour when confronted with uncomfortable facts. And you'll do it again.

[@artist_of_iq]

" we are coming after your kids ." If u speak about fear on babys then you should know that you are the Danger

[@ramonam9251]

Children need a mother and a father.

[@jellybeans9283]

Go tell that to all the deadbeat dads!!

[@dylansharkey6040]

This is heartbreaking and infuriating. I hope change comes in 2027

[@Springasm]

A child should have a father and a mother. How it was intended. Unfortunately gay people are only thinking about themselves!

[@danomyte67]

That’s a load of bull. Nowhere does it say that’s a requirement. Heck most kids are raised by only one parent.

[@Springasm]

​@@danomyte67It is unfortunate that many children are raised by only one parent, as it may deviate from the family structure of having both a father and mother involved. There may be various reasons contributing to this situation, but ultimately, children are typically conceived by a father and a mother, rather than two mothers or two father's. Also It's not a requirement to have a baby by a female and a male! It's a biological fact! Okay let's see gays giving birth without using surrogacy if it's not a requirement!

[@CF.]

We should always do what’s best for children. Not what’s best for adults who want to parent.

[@jellybeans9283]

Do you tell this message to all the deadbeat dads too! Most kids are now being raised by single moms, do you care about them having a father. Shut up, you're just homophobic

[@Alexander-o1y6e]

​@@CF. In that case, let's stop in vitro fertilization as well since that's also "unnatural" if your body can't have children, oh well. It's selfish to force it through science.

[@Xelenteontae_]

Disgusting

[@nalandatendar4212]

Lots of prayers for the LGBTQ community to fight for more love and compassion in the world! May you have success in fighting these small minded and conservative politicians on this point.

[@noemugisha7173]

You do not have any idea about prayers. Are you dragging prayers in these stupid ideas of LGBTQ?

[@nalandatendar4212]

@@noemugisha7173 I do daily prayers, for all sentient beings. I want everyone to be happy. May everyone live in democracies, have the resources, good health and free choice to love whomever they want. Why hate nice people like my niece and my nephew, while they are as nice as my straight nieces and nephews? Happily, me & my Christian brothers/sisters in the Netherlands are loving and accepting diversity. If you read this, may you be happy and contribute to more peace, wellbeing and less war in this world.

[@lexruptor]

God isn't real, you literally hate people for being different than you, and then insult them by "praying" for them. It's disgusting

[@irp5419]

Surrogacy should be illegal for ALL. Any group who claims to be Special and Good but promote surrogacy for their selfish needs should be stopped at all cost no matter how they cry for equality and what not.

[@NoahTinker]

What have you done to make the world a better place for Jesus love to be shown?@Jonathan_Torres1992

[@rubynutman]

From what I can see, the parents are loving and attentive towards the children and the children look happy and are well-behaved. where's the problem here?

[@StopCensorship4--03]

they are not that child's parents. You perpetuate a biological fallacy and child trafficking. That is the problem, lying to kids and traffick them.

[@cdean2789]

This will include straight couples too.

[@lexruptor]

It better

[@binghamguevara6814]

what do you mean. straight couples are normal mother and father.

[@danomyte67]

@@binghamguevara6814so are gay couples

[@blckmb]

It doesn't matter. Surrogacy is a normal practise. It works perfectly well in many areas. Their opposition to surrogacy is nothing but outdated illogical religious zealotry.

[@AMANWITHAPLAN149]

@@blckmbso if I was a women and I gave my children away to a guy I don’t even know that’s perfectly fine but at the sametime you don’t support human trafficking like bro what

[@YourCasualTurtle]

I'm happy to be half italian

[@elissantos]

That’s unbelievable!! 😮‍💨

[@marcK599]

Bringing children up with pervert parents is unbelievable I agree

[@MagicBus-ct7fe]

​@marcK599 the most disgusting thing is how they buy those babies like if they were slaves.

[@davet9900]

^^^^check this guys hard drive@JamesMacDonald-dy6my

[@lovemusicnatureartsfoods...]

Come here in Philippines when you are in LGBT relationship your neighbors treat you like a criminal and they gossip you and they throw you bad words that's why the some they just choose to quiet about their gender...

[@moonlight.z]

All of the world is like this except for some Western countries. @@lovemusicnatureartsfoods...

[@waantv3887]

Need a italian boyfriend!!!! 😢

[@kushprince8001]

This is an outrage.

[@StacyInLove1]

Horrible...

[@julia2k8]

😂😂

[@Ibn_Abdulaziz]

Women need to become Muslims cover their adornments. Their uncovered bodies brought this.

[@andyroo9381]

I had no idea Italy was this far behind in modern society. The Prime Minister sounds like a capitol "B".

[@mattblaster1470]

Great job Italy. Wish more countries would do this.

[@tastypymp1287]

Why?

[@tastypymp1287]

​@@FindingFyNythProof? None.

[@FunniEmi]

@@tastypymp1287no reason. Their heart is just filled with hate, so they have to speak their mind to calm them down

[@tbrian420]

Break up families? I thought the right was "pro-family"

[@beepboop9464]

I don't understand why people hate LGBT or surrogacy... like you don't like it don't participate. No one is out here making people marry people of the same sex or have babies with them. Like this is not that difficult or complicated.

[@LeoJackson98]

I am Italian and part of the community and find surrogacy disgusting as it exists in certain countries, it has become a business and should only ideally exist as a free volunteer action. However I want gay adoption to be legalized, in fact all adoption should be easier as it is nearly impossible in Italy for many straight families to adopt as well

[@NeeleshVerma-s2e]

Sperm donation should be illegal too because kids don't know who is their biological father

[@StopCensorship4--03]

Hah, gae realizing they have been pushing for kids trafficking all along. You groømers should be banned worldwide.

[@apollocreed5391]

Right wing government lol

[@naijalog2127]

😅😅 BBC

[@cdean2789]

Are they Left wing?

[@seansweeney3533]

I wish i could say im suprised, but i'm not because of the catholic church

[@lonamark3842]

Children need a mother and father, not 2 mothers or 2 fathers. LGBT must not adopt children as if they were pets. A child cannot chose their family. Natyraly is conceived from egg and sperm, so you cannot force a child to grow up on same sex couples. I don't belive in religion but in the God of universe, who created all human beings.

[@django3422]

Where's it written that a child must be raised by a mother and a father?

[@danomyte67]

Oh there’s so much wrong in that statement

[@is17a985]

@@django3422Sanity.

[@django3422]

@@is17a985 So nowhere, then. Thanks for playing.

[@is17a985]

@@django3422 Typical intelligence of a One Piece fan. Most countries have it in their law.

[@Ibn_Abdulaziz]

If the lgbt people of the earth were given a piece of land to settle in without anyone interfering with them, would they had wanted that? Would women want to live there and be surrogotes for them? If your existence is dependent on people who get married and have children, then how did you expect to pass one generation of existence without coming to the conclusion that your lifestyle is against human existence?

[@anthea6669]

Not all children come from married people

[@Ibn_Abdulaziz]

@@anthea6669 The children born outside wedlock are the ones who incline to atheism and lgbt more than those born from marriage under religious parents. Because these stuff were unknown to your fathers when marriage was high in the society.

[@Ibn_Abdulaziz]

@@anthea6669 What do you think of my question? Would you as a woman live in a country for lgbt where no one brothers them, and then you can act as a surrogote and help them have kids? What would your politics have become like?

[@anthea6669]

@@Ibn_Abdulaziz I don't think they were unknown to our parents, since some religious texts mention them. And people were pretty much forced by their religious views to hide their gender identity and sexuality, so it's hard to know actually how many LGBT people existed in the past, but we know they've always been there.

[@anthea6669]

@@Ibn_Abdulaziz I would live in that country, I'm part of the LGBT+ community. I also don't want to have children so I certainly wouldn't help anyone have children 😂 but I think you're forgetting that there are LGBT people who can have children themselves, and some are in male-female relationships and can also have their own children. There are also people who actually want to be surrogates, and orphans can also exist because of both parents dying, or being abandoned, etc. So there are many ways people can have children, even without surrogacy

[@KLV1994]

Love is love . We are all people . We should all be EQUAL ❤❤xxx

[@omyhaby1912]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

Yeah....I'd say we are about a decade away from widespread cannibalism...🤔

[@titteryenot4524]

@@tastypymp1287 Not an argument. 😊

[@Spriggan83]

Means nothing. Sounds like the Bs narrative the LGBTQ dangle around. Love is love? For you right? Give me a break

[@julia2k8]

😂😂😂

[@AdeleKakwandi]

The entire family us gay? The kids and everything? How does that work?

[@Ipernova]

Sorry people, kids are not items to be commissioned and sold, and women are not your pay-per incubators you can purchase! Proud of my country for doing this 😍😍

[@NicolaFossi]

Il giorno in cui la tua padrona, zabaionara analfabeta, se ne andrà in mezzo alle larve, tu resterai senza padrona, mentre i cittadini liberi festeggeranno. Suddita

[@MichelaRossini]

Same, proud of my Italy, finally, after so many years ✌🏻🇮🇹✌🏻🇮🇹

[@dvanerdivkanade]

Italy is democracy, let them make their own laws!

[@bshrful]

LETS BAN YOU WITH A LAW AND ENJOY THE SHOW

[@danomyte67]

That doesn’t mean they should be allowed to upend human rights

[@Woke_Invaders]

​@@danomyte67Buying children is not a "human right".

[@ibnabi9910]

It's imperative that children are protected for child abuse, being Intentionally deprived from a mother and father is child abuse in my opinion.

[@Ronin.Spirit]

"How difficult was it for you to be parents as a gay couple?" "Very difficult" You been trying for weeks huh?

[@shelaniwickramasinghe3079]

Children deserves the best! Both father and the mother. This is soo unnatural!

[@danomyte67]

Children deserve good parents. Don’t matter if they’re straight or gay

[@Timorias]

Cars are unnatural, cry me a river.

[@shelaniwickramasinghe3079]

@Timorias thats a different thing sir. Are humans unnatural as cars?

[@shelaniwickramasinghe3079]

@danomyte67 they do. They need both masculine and a feminine characters for children's to grow healthy

[@danomyte67]

@@shelaniwickramasinghe3079 that’s a load of bull. Most kids are raised by a single parent and turn fine.

[@johnatyoutube]

As a third generation Italian American and a happily married gay man, it makes me sad that I would be looked down upon and my marriage dismissed if I visited my grandparents' homeland. I'm even sadder for LGBTQ Italians who only desire the basic human right of having a family. I hope that those who are forcing their antiquated fear-born beliefs on others will find the love in their hearts to live and let live. Even the Pope is now taking a loving and welcoming stance towards LGBTQ people and honoring them as natural important members of the fabric of humanity, although he needs to stop splitting hairs by calling homosexuality natural but still a sin. If we can love you, you can come to love us.

[@MichelaRossini]

Don't come. We don't want you.

[@ladyfreddie7513]

The BBC really knows how to cover the real pressing problems of today. Italy got 99 problems for sure and this ain’t one

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

Fascism isn’t a problem?

[@georgeorwell-il2wz]

​@@rainbeauxunicorn5237Ideological fanaticism isn't a problem?

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

@@georgeorwell-il2wz… it can be and it is in some countries.

[@lexruptor]

Nah, this is the biggest of their issues, the primary one.

[@lexruptor]

​@@georgeorwell-il2wzOh it absolutely is, that's why this video exist. Ideological fanatics think gays shouldn't have rights, which is absolutely unacceptable.

[@shahidanusrat6086]

As a Pakistani I fully support love and respect Georgia meloni on this issue

[@parrotcracker6629]

And that's why your country is considered a third world country.

[@alitheonekhatarnak5163]

95 million paxtanis under poverty

[@SP-1230]

​@@parrotcracker6629yet more peaceful than western civilisation.

[@Erosiseternal]

Because you "Equality lovers" give yourself the label of so-called developed or first world country, if it's so then why don't you people do something for your labeled "third world". You the so called "Humanity lovers". By the way, poverty is nothing to do with Sexual orientation, you racists must get this.

[@adrienc8716]

I am surprised you have internet to write this stupid comment 😂

[@Mimix476]

“Their chance of having a family destroyed”. How about the chance of women of not having their bodies used as incubators, and the chance of children not to be bought and torn from their mother at birth? Brava Italia !

[@4651adri]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@lexruptor]

Yes, because that's totally what this is, it's not like women get paid for it, or like it's totally a voluntary thing, no, it's 100% forced, everyone woman has to be an incubator for free. That's how you sound. You sound stupid.

[@stopcensorship7705]

​@@lexruptor Who told you they get fairly compensated, you disgustingly ignorant groomer. Most deals are done illegaly against the wish of these women, this is a dark market that needs to be abolished.

[@Laura-q2k6p]

They have a point, dont you see it?

[@camadams9149]

Oh the upside, major investment opportunity. Shorting the Italian market is a guaranteed money maker. Going after the gays makes no sense from any practical standpoint, however they are an excellent scapegoat if things aren't going well & there are no plans to turn things around

[@tru9437]

How is Spain amd Italy so much different views about lgbti?

[@redfounded8478]

I think that maybe because the officials during the franco dictatorship supported the Catholic Church so heavily, people associated it with all of their oppression, so when it fell a wave of liberalism and progression occurred - however there’s a far right party similar to this in Spain called vox trying to do the same thing as Italy and it’s growing in popularity

[@КатеринаКатерина-и6я]

Forcing people to accept that LGBT is the norm is not better. Why aren't they talking about this?

[@django3422]

Okay. None of that is happening. Got any real concerns?

[@КатеринаКатерина-и6я]

@@django3422 This is happening in schools in a number of countries. And parents cannot refuse this.

[@django3422]

@@КатеринаКатерина-и6я No, it's not.

[@danomyte67]

@@КатеринаКатерина-и6яno one is being forced to accept anything. You’re just shouldn’t say anything homophobic

[@КатеринаКатерина-и6я]

@@danomyte67 Declaring something the norm or blame someone are two different things. The problem is that people are forced to change their beliefs. Schools in different contries explain that LGBT relationships are the norm. Many people do not agree with this because it goes against their religion. Why do schools force people to change their beliefs?This happens, for example, in schools in Canada, Spain, Great Britain, etc. Many people protest against this. Dissatisfaction with such policies may be the reason for what we see in Italy.

[@christinewomanoffaith5479]

Around the corner Jesus is coming.....r u ready.....Christ is the way, stop this thing

[@ToniSkit]

Boogyman

[@a.a.chavan9104]

Sin destroys the nation

[@kittyfwnix]

🍷

[@titteryenot4524]

🍰

[@JesusIstheNameTakenInVain]

For ALL have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.

[@julia2k8]

Agreed 💯

[@Neucleus]

Well then, religious countries must be the most sinful.

[@vinayakansajeev]

wow! being gay in Italy was so far fun ... but glad i'm not to stay here!

[@letsboogie4408]

I grew up with gay people around me, never had a problem with them, then they decided to bring along all the other weirdos and the demands they made just kept on getting more and more outlandish, “” When tyranny becomes law rebellion becomes a duty””

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

So ppl wanting equal rights… that’s “outlandish?”

[@georgeorwell-il2wz]

​@@rainbeauxunicorn5237What's equal about this?

[@theprinceofpie]

How dare gay people want to have children!

[@lexruptor]

You're full of shit, what wierdos? Lyin ass ho

[@lexruptor]

​@@georgeorwell-il2wzWhat's not equal about it? Not a damn thing

[@ChairmanKim]

0:48 are those two women in pink shirts twins??

[@XavierRadić_NZL]

Seems the current govt in Italy, has turned the clock back about 600 years (or wants to!!), sadly most countries where the 'official' religion is Catholic or other extremes, dominate and control laws & minds to the same end. My own country of origin as part of the Balkans has been Catholic dominated for hundreds and years, and still is - 'church and state' commented with regular ease. My blood family (I was adopted and am also Gay) come from a very small peasant village in the Dinaric Alps, there is no-one in Village even today who is 'not family' in some way. Since the plague passed through the area c1420 my family have actively practised 'incest', and with the known support of the Catholic Church (the worst paedophile supporters & practitioners in the world, even today), so it is VERY easy to see the current Italian Govt peddling the same old Catholic agenda here. Not quite as bad as many other countries and also USA these days, where they actually shoot LGBT+ folk and supporters. Kia Ora from New Zealand. 💜💜

[@jacksonmanthanero9240]

For me as a Christian I think its okay to not accept gay marriage but surrogacy is not only for gay/lesbian parents but some straight women & men facing fertility problem or want to be a single parent .The man who said Surrogacy is worse than Phedopilia is so Sick its disgusting 🤮

[@desigirlBea]

BBC propaganda

[@DanielHogendoorn]

Good Italy! Stand strong against woke!

[@Alexthomas-hd4xj]

You are sick

[@DanielHogendoorn]

@@Alexthomas-hd4xj no

[@DanielHogendoorn]

@@Alexthomas-hd4xj you are sick

[@mantisslayurfavs]

​@@DanielHogendoornyou are

[@MichelaRossini]

We'll do. Fuck the woke ideology off from Italy.

[@arnoeeuwigheid4499]

They do NOT DESERVE to be called "families" as they are NOT!!!!!!!!

[@martincull4914]

A child’s right is to have a mother and father, not two fathers or two mothers, who speaks for the children? Why do adults feel so entitled. Everyone doesn’t get to have children unless you are rich and narcissistic then the reality doesn’t exist.

[@ConstructiveMinds100]

Of course these families are fake. As someone who grew up without father I always wanted to have at least step father with my sister, NOT ANOTHER Mother. .... When my step father died my world as a child broke down. ..... I am atheist but have to agree with religions on this one.

[@economieliberale5189]

An individual judges with his "knowledge" and what he has experienced, we all have a baggage of events which orients what we are. these children will not think like you, they have nothing in common with you.

[@olivero.1877]

Kids from same sex parents do just as well as kids from straight parents. They actually outperform their peers on some metrics. And if you had grown up with two mothers who love you very much you probably wouldn’t mind

[@MichelaRossini]

Of course you are right. I hope that you'll become a nice and loving father.

[@ConstructiveMinds100]

@@economieliberale5189 looks like you can read but with not understanding.

[@gracietenina]

please! don't destroy us

[@julia2k8]

No place for groomers in our societies

[@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz]

Except for the original groomers the gay and lesbian agenda

[@rainbeauxunicorn5237]

I’m not sure you know what grooming is.

[@Jack-x1r4y]

Plus, if "God" was Real then don't you think "God" would have gave every single generation after Jesus's death the same "power" as they should be someone alive today in 2023 with that same "power" as Jesus and if "God" was real then why do we have Pandemics n' evil people on are streets still as don't you think "God" would have removed all of that stuff from the world, plus how come Mary was able to have a kid without having any sexual activity as If "God" gave her the gift to have a baby without sperm then why are us Men on this planet if "God" gave a woman the power to give bath without any sperm as don't you think the same gift would get passed down the generation's in Mary's family to the current day of 2023 because if any of that was true then there would been hundreds of Women out there in 2023 being able to have kids without any kind of sperm related samples if I'm honest with you 💯✔️

[@julia2k8]

@@rainbeauxunicorn5237 gaes are groomers

[@lexruptor]

So Hoiters shoukd cease to exist, as well as strip clubs, and fathers who get drunk and try to groom thier kids to be straight through intimidation and fear

[@user-xr1pk4xo5y]

orgoglioso della mia Italia

[@ula4334]

How can i enter Paradise ? “Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved"

[@ula4334]

Eternal life is a free gift. We don’t have to pay the penalty for our sins ourself. He did it for us. This free gift comes only through Jesus and His finished work for us on the cross (John 14:6 and Acts 4:12)

[@ula4334]

Acts 1:8 ye shall receive POWER, after that the Holy Ghost is in you.

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

Congratulations to Brooke Bruk-Jackson, crowned Miss Universe Zimbabwe 2023🥰

[@titteryenot4524]

Uh huh, Jimbo. You know what I’ve always wondered? Why does Miss Universe always come from Earth? 🤔

[@andrereloaded1425]

​@@titteryenot4524 Quite simply, the other galactic federations refuse to take part.

[@titteryenot4524]

@@andrereloaded1425 👍

[@tastypymp1287]

@@andrereloaded1425 Ok Trekkie

[@tastypymp1287]

@@titteryenot4524 You two should meet up on your next cosplay outing.

[@px7wu]

you are being presented this as part of bbc political and social ideology platform

[@URBeingLiedTo]

I think you mean gay couples, not gay families.

[@lexruptor]

No, gay families. Does it kill you to know many gay couples have children and have been successfully raising them as normal parts of society in spite of your lots constantly harassment?

[@URBeingLiedTo]

@@lexruptor That would infer that the children are gay too. You sound ridiculous.

[@RyanH-t8x]

I heard he lives in a castle 🏰 but that's just what I heard

[@colinrobinson4233]

Creepy

[@Luror4567]

✝️🇮🇹

[@JamesSmith-qs4hx]

Our daughters, and all of our children and their descendants need to be able to grow up in a country which is safe, homogeneous, and high-trust. A country in which we, the peoples of Britain, dictate our own affairs and our own destiny, rather than traitors and parasites who serve megalomaniacal foreign psychopaths who despise us. And above all, a country which simply feels like home. A country which is genuinely ours, as it ought to be.

[@omowhanre]

But your population is not replacing itself and your people don’t go to school for medicine and engineering aka, you’re dependent on foreigners whose lands you great-grandparents colonized. Ooops, guess you’re not getting your homogeneous dream after all

[@titteryenot4524]

“Homogeneous”? Really, Jimbo? Why is it that those people who call for ‘homogeneity’ are almost without exception the last kind of people I want to be homogeneous with, eh? 🤔

[@ardri31]

Shouldve thought of that before colonising half the world. Sooner or later they gonna come lookin to see what all the hype is about. You reap what you sow

[@Ballykeith]

Mein Kampf?

[@julia2k8]

No place for groomers in our societies

[@Kaymeron]

8:19 deep voice. What is she hiding in her closet?

[@tinay9491]

disgusting