Refugee/Migrant crisis debated on Question Time - BBC News

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The panel including Yanis Varoufakis, Ken Clarke MP, Chris Bryant MP, Suzanne Evans and Julia Hartley-Brewer debate the refugee/migrant crisis.
Yanis Varoufakis debated Ukip's Suzanne Evans' about whether or not more refugees should be allowed into the the UK.
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@Awakened_Wallace
@Awakened_Wallace 3 жыл бұрын
I struggle to put into the words the feelings I have towards these people.
@colinstephenson5386
@colinstephenson5386 3 жыл бұрын
Devonian , who are. ‘ these people “ ? That are upsetting your feelings ? My feelings become upset listening to comfortable people without imagination and compassion, what are they afraid off ? , do they not realize their placing human beings into categories !
@scotthendry6298
@scotthendry6298 Жыл бұрын
Look wt the mess now because of ro Golders country is on its knees no housing
@maryduffy2036
@maryduffy2036 3 жыл бұрын
Bottom line it needs to be controlled, 5 years on, and its getting worse. In those 5 years, nothing has been done. It's like a free for all, ask any working class citizen what life is like now in U.K 2021
@christiantaylor9266
@christiantaylor9266 2 жыл бұрын
silly comment. immigrants don’t take your jobs, they do the ones you don’t want to.
@bryn1890
@bryn1890 2 жыл бұрын
Weird to hear a Greek saying borders are an absurdity and we're all economic migrants from Africa. I think the Greek civilization's contributions to history rather depended on it recognising borders, and fighting intruders, or those bloody Trojans.
@g.lowenklee2268
@g.lowenklee2268 Жыл бұрын
Eh, quite the opposite actually, which is why you had Classical Greek colonies & migrants from Spain to Afghanistan, often under the suzerainty of a local power. Those Greeks recognized borders rather poorly when it stood in the way of economic sense and why not, after all, "Greece" wasn't a thing to them. Those same Greeks also fought themselves more than they *ever* fought intruders (mainland Greece wasn't exactly a prize). And more often than not those intruders could count on the support of one Greek city or another if it meant an opportunity to knock one of their neighbors down a peg!
@PsilentMusicUK
@PsilentMusicUK 8 ай бұрын
Ancient and medieval borders were rather vague in general. Where one empire/kingdom stopped and another started largely depended on which of them exacted tribute from the people in a given area. They might also use natural geographic boundaries, but this was more out of practicality (it's difficult to project military force over huge rivers and/or mountains). There certainly weren't any of these complex, specific borders you see on maps today.
@riikki___
@riikki___ 5 ай бұрын
here we have a nationalist telling someone what they should think about nationalism, based of their nationality. strangely mr Varoufakis' values arent dependent on what may or may not that have been important to ancient greek civilisations
@infinitecanadian
@infinitecanadian 9 жыл бұрын
What's to debate? Give free housing to Britain's own homeless, not refugees - and what right has that Greek to speak about Great Britain's policies?
@Sasha-dn6mz
@Sasha-dn6mz 9 жыл бұрын
+infinitecanadian Dunno. What right does a Canadian have to speak about Great Britain's policies?
@infinitecanadian
@infinitecanadian 9 жыл бұрын
Trystan Jones Which Canadian is that? I see no Canadians on this Question Time debate.
@thefinalpurification
@thefinalpurification 9 жыл бұрын
+Trystan Jones I value his opinion over yours, and I'm English.
@redarrowhead2
@redarrowhead2 9 жыл бұрын
+infinitecanadian That greek looks like a migrant anyway.
@Sasha-dn6mz
@Sasha-dn6mz 9 жыл бұрын
+infinitecanadian That's weak. Varoufakis has as much right as you do, as a foreigner, to comment on our affairs. And unlike you he actually knows a thing or two about European politics, and is an accomplished economist who can rise above trite and simplistic anti-migrant rhetoric.
@markyboyb32ify
@markyboyb32ify 9 жыл бұрын
'Doing the right thing' will be the downfall of this country.
@zulfanansari4935
@zulfanansari4935 6 жыл бұрын
What the hell are you saying
@KleineJoop
@KleineJoop 3 жыл бұрын
And look what happened.... Brexit is the beginning of the end.
@thefalcon256
@thefalcon256 9 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here in shock. Suzanne Evans was the only one who made any sense and received zero applause. The next speaker regurgitates the tired old line of 'We are all immigrants' and something about there are no borders in space and the audience applause with enthusiasm. Common sense is just thrown out of the window. Everyone is desperately trying to show what a nice person they are. Are they doing it out of fear or genuine compassion?
@thefalcon256
@thefalcon256 9 жыл бұрын
+mikaelhs Well what no one bothered to mention is that Germany has the LOWEST birth rate in the world and yet it is the 2nd largest world economy. Demographically speaking, Germany, is dying. Ethnic Germans have given up having children and in my opinion, this is why Merkel has opened the doors to millions of migrants. What this really is about, is population replacement, but had I been there and said that I would have been lynched on the spot.
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 8 жыл бұрын
Suzanne Evans response was drenched in fear and selfishness, it was also inconsistent with the ukip claim of the 5th biggest economy in the world, but we can't afford to be more generous with the number of refugees coming into the nation?
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 8 жыл бұрын
You are wrong, Julie Hartley brewer did make that point...
@PhiloAmericana
@PhiloAmericana 9 жыл бұрын
Did he just argue against borders as a concept?
@aaron4820
@aaron4820 9 жыл бұрын
+PhiloAmericana If you zoom out far enough "from space", actually, who cares if everyone died or the solar system collapsed... let's just die now before the inevitable heat death of the universe...
@DigoronKavkaz
@DigoronKavkaz 9 жыл бұрын
+aaron4820 It's some bullshit leftist dogma I used to believe in as well. I suppose he wouldn't mind if Greece's demography shifted to the point where ethnic Greeks comprised even 60% of the population.
@DigoronKavkaz
@DigoronKavkaz 9 жыл бұрын
+Leo Anaxandridas Why are you calling me an idiot? Why are you so angry and emotional? What did I say that offended you so much?
@hillaryclinton9458
@hillaryclinton9458 9 жыл бұрын
ethan intellekt To say it's some bullshit leftist dogma? What are you exactly talking about?
@DigoronKavkaz
@DigoronKavkaz 9 жыл бұрын
+Leo Anaxandridas I said calling for a world without borders is a bullshit leftist dogma. Is that what you want? A world without states and borders? Where people can migrate freely and in hoards, potentially shifting the indigenous populations and cultures out?
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting there wasn't so much as a murmur, when Ken Clarke used the word "flood", yet there was outrage, when Nigel Farage used the exact same word.
@Azareatth
@Azareatth 3 жыл бұрын
There was outrage at farage because he stood alongside a poster that showed a masive line of people marching on a road, a picture that was also false, because he tried to say they were turkish migrants, when infact the image was from afghanistan in 2012...he faced outrage because he lied, not because of the use of 1 word.
@alexander92179
@alexander92179 3 жыл бұрын
One rule for the establishment and another rule for everyone else it seems..
@riikki___
@riikki___ 5 ай бұрын
probably because the context makes clear he is emphasising the enormity of the humanitarian crisis rather dehumanising an insecure refugee population and painting them as threatening invaders. i know you guys are all sharing one brain cell you rub together but it isn't just about specific words, it's about the way theyre used and the meaning and intention theyre given. hope this helps!
@sydneysnell3833
@sydneysnell3833 9 жыл бұрын
*The future will not be kind to the traitors.*
@nultyjack8219
@nultyjack8219 4 жыл бұрын
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@shhwinner6663
@shhwinner6663 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah mass uncontrolled immigration and negotiating with the EU on austerity worked well for Greece didn't it ex Greek finance minister?
@Annaliddelllycos
@Annaliddelllycos 9 жыл бұрын
+Shh Winner It does surprise me that the British would allow some foreign politician from Greece tell them what to do.
@PsilentMusicUK
@PsilentMusicUK 5 жыл бұрын
Varoufakis took absolutely no shit from the EU. That's why he ended up failing. If anything, he's exactly who we needed for Brexit.
@SamMitchell90
@SamMitchell90 9 жыл бұрын
Even for the BBC, this is a left wing audience. Jesus christ.
@scoldedcat
@scoldedcat 9 жыл бұрын
+David James Yes. hand picked by the sound of it.
@MusbCrazy80
@MusbCrazy80 9 жыл бұрын
+David James HUH? YOU THINK QT IS RIGHT WING? LOL!THE AUDIENCE IS ALWAYS LOADED WITH LIBERALS WHO CARE MORE ABOUT BEING SEEN AS BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT THAN THEIR OWN KIDS SAFETY!
@aorusaki
@aorusaki 9 жыл бұрын
+MusbCrazy80 yep
@jamesline5103
@jamesline5103 9 жыл бұрын
+David James Why is everything called 'left-wing'? The elites want more immigration. It helps the rich and the BBC is just giving us propaganda. The masters are not 'right-wing' or 'left-wing' rather they just see us as enemies. Let us not turn this into a partisan issue. Some real left-wingers could possibly be on our side. I Know how you feel. The pro-immigration people like to paint themselves as left-wing.
@jamesline5103
@jamesline5103 9 жыл бұрын
***** I agree. I will respond more soon.
@fredbloggs4181
@fredbloggs4181 6 жыл бұрын
"they are starving to death" really? yet they have the money to pay the traffickers and they all seem to have mobile phones. Yanis Varoufakis, I think you're full of BS.
@anthonyperkins7556
@anthonyperkins7556 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot keep constantly taking people in, without limits, to the detriment of a countries own citizens causing resentment upset and anger, because it all ends in frustration and tears.
@christiantaylor9266
@christiantaylor9266 2 жыл бұрын
immigrants don’t add to nhs waiting lists
@anthonyperkins7556
@anthonyperkins7556 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiantaylor9266 Tough. Many Brits disagree with you, I'm glad Brexit got done, I'm glad the EU migrants got a kicking from the Brits and told to go kiss their backsides back to Central and Eastern Europe, I'm glad we're out of Europe, I know a few painters and decorators where I live who've been kicked out of the game because of these lot doing things on the cheap, that isn't fair!
@christiantaylor9266
@christiantaylor9266 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyperkins7556 if somebody offered to do the same job for you for less, would you say no?
@anthonyperkins7556
@anthonyperkins7556 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiantaylor9266 I'd rather have a quality job and I'll always pick British tradesman over an EU migrant and I don't care how xenophobic it sounds to you so suck it up buttercup because I'm HAPPY THAT WAY AND I'LL ALWAYS REFUSE business from an EU migrant, I couldn't care less..
@christiantaylor9266
@christiantaylor9266 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyperkins7556 but you’d lose profit and then lost in the market to better businesses.. eventually your company would have to fold as you’d go bankrupt
@thecurious926
@thecurious926 Жыл бұрын
Wow people cheering when he said borders are an absurdity when looked at from soace. Wow. Maybe uk and europe do deserve whats coming.
@207Richy
@207Richy 9 жыл бұрын
We should take anyone but UK is so small. I'd hazard a guess that we take more migrants than countries with ten times the habitable land. It's so bad here People are renting their garages out as living spaces. I know people that have been on housing lists for up to 15 years. Seems like Our interests are not fairly represented. bbc want more licence payers, politicians want more clients of the state; not a thought is given to poor people getting poorer by declining living standards through an increased cost of living.
@anthonyfieldhouse9691
@anthonyfieldhouse9691 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's clear by the last election result what people think about the EU and free movement of people. I think that people struggling to get a home or their child a place in school, or even a medical appointment do not think it's a good idea to have open borders, it's case of simple maths, more people in the country = more drain on resources. When will we start to take care of our own people before trying to solve the rest of the worlds problems ? When there are no need for food banks and the homeless situation has been solved, then we can start helping others. I ask one question, would you feed your neighbors children before your own ?
@anthonyfieldhouse9691
@anthonyfieldhouse9691 Жыл бұрын
@Maxine McKenzie 23 Tax the rich too much and they will set business in other countries hence no jobs.
@HerpishDerp
@HerpishDerp 3 жыл бұрын
Suzanne quality 2 minute speech no clap, Yanis in favor of migrants 2 seconds in round of applause. If only the audience was fair.
@christiantaylor9266
@christiantaylor9266 2 жыл бұрын
the audience is educated
@digitalzips
@digitalzips 2 жыл бұрын
@@christiantaylor9266 You mean indoctrinated.
@lisalisa948
@lisalisa948 3 жыл бұрын
We are not all migrants!
@eriksonmendes3785
@eriksonmendes3785 3 жыл бұрын
Your ancestors
@lisalisa948
@lisalisa948 3 жыл бұрын
Not as far back and very very distant ancestors that make any difference.
@xRsAtx
@xRsAtx 8 жыл бұрын
That dark haired woman was brilliant, just shows how biased the bbc is that nobody in the audience clapped
@legitbae7161
@legitbae7161 6 жыл бұрын
Shut up dickhole and mind your own business, and by the way your comment just shows how judgemental you are, ' Dark Haired woman' Who flippin cares what colour her hair is.
@BedsitBob
@BedsitBob 3 жыл бұрын
2:20 "The answer to the question is exactly the opposite." So we should take more than we can cope with? And will he personally fund it?
@kyzofact
@kyzofact 3 жыл бұрын
Scrambling for relevance ^^^
@konf1ka
@konf1ka 9 жыл бұрын
At the start, Susanne Evans made a good, valid point about the migrant crisis based entirely upon logic and facts. When she finished - she received no applause. The audience was completely dead. Yanis Varoufakis, the finance minister of greece - the same country that is suffering a severe economic crisis, however said this: "To have this moral panic because of a few wretched souls in Calais, this country deserves a lot better" By saying this, he has just painted himself a thick, vibrant shade of naive. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that it only takes a minority to spoil it for the majority through use of underhanded tactics. And ofcourse his view deserves the biggest round of applause you could imagine. Love that exclusive left-wing audience, BBC. Because our country is so densely populated, we should employ a strict and rigorous vetting system for migrants and refugees. We should base it on the amount of value the migrant/refugee can bring to our country, if they are safe, and whether or not they are (or can be) self-sustainable. This country already has a benefits culture consisting of people who sit on their arse doing sweet FA while claiming multiple types of benefit to sustain themselves. We do not need more of these types of people.
@stevedave5867
@stevedave5867 Жыл бұрын
The extreme left in a nutshell. The lack of critical thinking going on is being led by leftist fantasy thinking not logic based problem solving. Thats why they clapped like seals.
@G4NoChallenge
@G4NoChallenge 9 жыл бұрын
Varoufakis is a joke - yes, migration of peoples has gone on for 1000´s years and continues today in a "traditional" way in africa, south america and maybe elsewhere, BUT when those migrants in history and now got to another land or country, no one provided them with a house and all services, food, clothing, education, medical services, protection of themselves and their rights by a security service and legal sytem AND ALL THIS FOR FREE and without requiring then to work for the society they chose to migrate to. He talks of what if the USA didnt accept migrants in the last century - again those people arrived, washed dishes, farmed, worked, grafted from day one to survive and build their future. Come on, i spent time in syria as well as many other arab/muslim countries and the mentailty is generally to do as little work as is necessary to survive, arriving in europe with no language skills, a aversion to work and more than enough money from the benefits system to live, are they going to find jobs if there are any. He comes from a country that bankrupted itself through over indulgence and preaches migrant charity to the eu states that keeps bailing him and his country out...WOW. Dear Mr Varoufakis, 99% of these migrants entering the eu are either from safe and secure refugee camps in turkey, jordan or lebanon or from other countries not engulfed in war, so they are not escaping death but are in search of heaven, ie, benefits heaven of the wealthy eu countries. the only person who talked reality was suzanne evans - and yes, the issue is not the 1000´s or even 100,000´s, its the 10 million migrants that are likely to get to the eu in the next year or so if the weakling politicians dont man up to the looming crisis - how will the major eu countries deal with 1 million migrants arriving or being forced upon each country and what impact will that have both economically and socially?
@euexitnow1247
@euexitnow1247 9 жыл бұрын
+NoChallenge Brits have been cast aside for decades with the "too lazy to work" LIE, theyre importing VOTERS and they dont care where they come from nor its consequences.
@user-jw6yh4ev4n
@user-jw6yh4ev4n 3 жыл бұрын
you are a joke
@bradleywoods3742
@bradleywoods3742 3 жыл бұрын
Those two women were by far the most reasonable. They were capable of thinking rationally rather than constant virtue signalling
@prody666
@prody666 4 жыл бұрын
It is unbelievable how some men are unable to hear a woman talk without interrupting her
@michaelplank8966
@michaelplank8966 Жыл бұрын
You don't have honest debates you have let's be kind debates
@prakashsinha58
@prakashsinha58 6 жыл бұрын
Managed show .. even.the audience were carefully chosen
@sagirashraf2790
@sagirashraf2790 5 жыл бұрын
Are you British Indian? Cool I love my Indian living in UK I wish I can also come to uk
@michaelplank8966
@michaelplank8966 Жыл бұрын
It's all right it's never honest why would you allow aslimik ghettos why not have lovely quite nice england
@BobsmithMarley-uq3ir
@BobsmithMarley-uq3ir 4 ай бұрын
8 years later and look at the mess now.
@JonB1995
@JonB1995 8 жыл бұрын
superb Yanis... really made me think as well
@monrush
@monrush 2 жыл бұрын
He shut up when asked "how many"...
@Aleksamson
@Aleksamson 7 жыл бұрын
14:00 Hungary is secular, Poland I'm not sure, it is very catholic, BUT christianity - rejecting islam is Not the main reason for not accepting refugees. I think that Eastern European countries are not obsessed with Social Justice and don't have a problem with Political correctness. I think half a century behind the iron curtain produced a bit different mindset, mentality, attitude. I think that hearts of liberals don't bleed as much.
@darwincity
@darwincity 3 жыл бұрын
Poland’s constitution does enshrine the concept of secularism as the main way of dealing with religions, however the Catholic Church does benefit from a “John Paul II dividend”, which means that it has a major influence in the policy making structures in Poland, as well as a form of moral leadership on the center-right/right wing parties in Poland.
@Aleksamson
@Aleksamson 3 жыл бұрын
@@darwincity I see. Makes sense. Sounds like America few decades ago when christianity had major influence in politics. As a left leaning liberal I was against that "moral majority" back then. Now they are standing against authoritarian left, fighting against Woke insanity...defending western civilisation itself.
@syantikshinta3779
@syantikshinta3779 2 жыл бұрын
Are those migrants and refugees will be there forever?
@Aleksamson
@Aleksamson 2 жыл бұрын
@@syantikshinta3779 Depends why are they coming. When wars end most refugees return to their homes. Nobody wants to leave their home. Economic migrants sometimes go back after years or decades but mostly (or many) stay for good. Whatever the case, that's why we need regulation.
@pawl23
@pawl23 3 жыл бұрын
Each ethnic group has a right to a homeland!
@addmin5487
@addmin5487 3 жыл бұрын
No they dont, just look at countries like malaysia, singapore, suriname, guyana, ethiopia, fiji etc These countries are ethnically and religiously diverse and they seem to be okay with existing in a nation with other colours and creeds. You’re just obsessed with race, its lame
@pawl23
@pawl23 3 жыл бұрын
@@addmin5487 Notice how they are mostly countries in the new world. Where the native people were forcibly replaced by the europeans. The migrant crisis is between old world nations. The migrants are viewed as invaders by the europeans. This also happened with the arabs invaded north Africa, the amabzign viewed the arabs as invaders. The homeland of the ethnic groups in the new world is still the old world.
@addmin5487
@addmin5487 3 жыл бұрын
@@pawl23 what in the fuck are you talking about. So you argue the scary brown people are not like us and therefore we deserve our own ethnostate. I give you plenty of examples where the scary browns and blacks coexist perfectly fine without the need for a state-wide ethnic identity, instead they have a nationalist identity. But then you are arguing that the only reason why they are able to coexist is because they were invaded at some point? And that they have been brought into the new world? I cant lie, you are incredibly incoherent, and it just sounds like a ridiculous excuse to be a white nationalist in the face of many examples where multiethnic and multi-religious countries work together just fine. You are the one stuck in the old world my friend.
@alexander92179
@alexander92179 3 жыл бұрын
@@addmin5487 the victims of grooming gangs would totally agree with you 😂
@michaelslator64
@michaelslator64 2 жыл бұрын
Well said sir. Now f... off from N.Ireland?.
@mariettestabel275
@mariettestabel275 5 ай бұрын
AND WHY ARE THERE SO MANY REFUSE???? WHY??? ANSWER PLEASE .
@terrybaker8156
@terrybaker8156 2 жыл бұрын
If they’ve arrived at our shores by land and sea then they’re not refugees.
@grahamjames5618
@grahamjames5618 2 жыл бұрын
This immigration could have been controlled at any time. Schools, hospitals, houses etc could also have been built at any time. The truth is that the British governments for years have just not been doing their job!!!!!!!! There is a huge amount of GB that is empty!!!
@chucks6781
@chucks6781 2 жыл бұрын
So to help these economic fella"s we concrete over the UK & FEED & HOUSE THEM ALL FOR FREE
@goncalodias6402
@goncalodias6402 2 жыл бұрын
fuck the fields right? just build stuff and fill it with people that btw hate your way of life
@elmerfadd
@elmerfadd 9 жыл бұрын
Starving and homeless people are starving and homeless people regardless of nationality. The argument that the UK should first take care "its own" homeless is clearly racist (prioritizing human rights according to racial/ethnic criteria). The very existence of homeless and starving people in the UK is a reflection of policies promoting inequality within the country and it is those policies (that benefit the richer while making life more difficult for the poorer) that have to be changed. The UK is on the G8 and has a population of 65 million. Accepting 650.000 migrants/refugees (1% of population) over a reasonable time-period (e.g. 5 years) should be a good start with minimum to zero negative impacts for the British welfare-/well-being (provided the above-mentioned transition of policies starts to be realized). Same applies for all European countries.
@Annaliddelllycos
@Annaliddelllycos 9 жыл бұрын
+elmerfadd I believe I can say this without intruding into your internal matter too much. As a general principle every government is obligated to serve its own people first and foremost. That's the pact the government makes with its citizens when the citizens give them the power to rule over them. It's not racism for a government to prioritize its own citizens before foreigners. In fact it's breaking this sacred trust with their citizens if they don't.
@elmerfadd
@elmerfadd 9 жыл бұрын
Anna Liddell "As a general principle every government is obligated to serve its own people first and foremost." Ahmmm, the simple answer to that is "No". Where did you see/read/hear that? This is in violation of any human rights declaration/agreement that exists within the EU. And it is racism to prioritize human rights according to nationality and/or race. Otherwise, can you please explain to me what racism is?
@Annaliddelllycos
@Annaliddelllycos 9 жыл бұрын
elmerfadd Countries MUST put the interests of their own people ahead of any foreigner. That is what they exist to do. If they don't do it then they lose their legitimacy. What is racism? An overused slur.
@FightCollective
@FightCollective 9 жыл бұрын
+elmerfadd "Starving and homeless people are starving and homeless people regardless of nationality" So why aren't the Saudi's taking care of the families living below the poverty line in the UK... where are the Iraq foodbanks for UK families... infact why isn't Saudi Arabia taking in refugees!!! I can only guess you think the Middles Eastern countries are racist too for not paying into our social welfare budget. Why don't you name Saudi's as racists also?!?
@Annaliddelllycos
@Annaliddelllycos 9 жыл бұрын
HitManHey A government is designed to serve the interests of their people. That's not racism. That's how it is supposed to be. You made a good point!
@jemshadow123
@jemshadow123 2 жыл бұрын
i love how the Tory was complaining about all the things she's in Government to actually do something about...stop moaning! get fixing!
@gwynjones8709
@gwynjones8709 9 жыл бұрын
Let them fight for their homeland like we did...... they expect us to then curse us for it...
@omariw845
@omariw845 9 жыл бұрын
+gwyn Jones How the hell can they fight when US ,Europe ,Russia ,China ... All major countries in the world are getting involved with supplying weapons to all sides ? ,You either take Isis side or Assad side and both are bad choices for most people in Syria .
@hillaryclinton9458
@hillaryclinton9458 9 жыл бұрын
+gwyn Jones When did you fight for your homeland you absolute mongrel
@gwynjones8709
@gwynjones8709 9 жыл бұрын
+Leo Anaxandridas Well I was a military Wife ,, And as to the mongrel , interesting choice of words ,, I am English and Welsh ,, A celtic Mogrel if you choose and a proud one !! These men are leaving their women and childen behind .. Some men huh ? Explain how Men of fighting age flee their countries to suck benefits from western countries and leave the weak behind .. . ,, And so my friend I pose to you the same you posed to me Have you faught for your country ?
@hillaryclinton9458
@hillaryclinton9458 9 жыл бұрын
gwyn Jones Hahaha. Everyone is obliged to military service in my country so yes I have served my country. A lot better than you have too. See, my countries military is 100% Defence and it is based in our homeland not the other side of the world. You're English and you think You're Celtic? The Welsh are the original Britons but if you check out their DNA you will see Roman, Anglo-Saxon, Norman, Basque, Scandinavian.
@gwynjones8709
@gwynjones8709 9 жыл бұрын
+Leo Anaxandridas So you defend these men leaving their country and their women and children behind , And you expect the western countries to put their own people on hold to house and feed these men .. I see
@mikebellis5713
@mikebellis5713 3 жыл бұрын
Another audience selected by woke BBC
@Anthony-xd1lj
@Anthony-xd1lj 2 жыл бұрын
Chris Bryan you have to love when it was labour who started the war in iraq and afghanistan and destoryed these country, so Chris i would not pretend that labour is innocent when they did every to destoyed the middle east and opened the borders to mass immigration
@Aeraleach
@Aeraleach 9 жыл бұрын
logic just doesn't apply to the arguments of the bald guy, he's just appeling to uneducated peoples empathy
@Capybarrrraaaa
@Capybarrrraaaa 2 жыл бұрын
Complaining about the housing crisis in 2015 seems quaint by comparison. And people voted for the tories AGAIN.
@10-YearPlan
@10-YearPlan 3 жыл бұрын
I really like Yanis. Dont agree with some of his ideas, but he is incredibly smart, makes his points well and gets us into the debate proper.
@nicolasmithy3644
@nicolasmithy3644 2 жыл бұрын
Do u agree when he said we all come from Africa 🤨???
@ron.morgan
@ron.morgan 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasmithy3644 it must be true,the BBC keep telling us :-) The stupidity and lack of simple common sense from this Yanis bloke is clear , smug look , smile and wait for the cheers from the poor old sheep .
@digitalzips
@digitalzips 2 жыл бұрын
Debates won't solve the problems, it's just hot air and nothing will be done.
@edwardjones2202
@edwardjones2202 Жыл бұрын
@@nicolasmithy3644 we did all come from Africa. He only mentioned this tongue I'm cheek. He just means borders are arbitrary. Not a short term solution though
@brg9327
@brg9327 9 жыл бұрын
I'm left on most issues but on the refugees/migrants sitution I swing towards the right. So I was very surprised and disappointed when the UKIP member stops talking after making absolute common sense, the room is very quiet. However once the other gentleman says hes the "complete opposite" the fucking audience cheers.........seriously? *sigh*
@ArwingFighter
@ArwingFighter 9 жыл бұрын
Thank god for people for Suzanne Evans.
@shelleyhockley-hills9917
@shelleyhockley-hills9917 4 жыл бұрын
Now we are in 2020. Now 48,000 here so far . Bit more than 20,000. 400 coming each day boats 17 a day on Dover beaches. Bussed to 4*hotels straight away. Free food, medical, money. Still going on. All blah, blah, blah. Lady in audience is right. We're soft. UK is finished. They are not desperate.
@grahamjames5618
@grahamjames5618 2 жыл бұрын
I hate being lectured by people like Hartley-Brewer. She really seems to be callous.
@SomethingImpromptu
@SomethingImpromptu 8 жыл бұрын
Suzanne Evans is right the we (the West) are responsible for the causes of the refugee crisis in Iraq and Syria. But then she says that we aren't responsible for economic migrants. Well, in most cases, these migrants are fleeing from extreme poverty caused by IMF/World Bank/troika-imposed Structural Adjustment Policies (austerity, privatization, trade liberalization, etc.). Mexico and the US is an example (we impose trade policies that block their development, so they flee).
@UCiWrMgES50tlUhV3l6NqjNA
@UCiWrMgES50tlUhV3l6NqjNA 2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit, the west is the developed world! they run because their countries is run by shit, so they deserve it.
@KeyNoteSpker
@KeyNoteSpker 9 жыл бұрын
We have to stop letting people shut down conversations with emotive pleas rather than facts. If someone cries about losing their country and doesn't say "how" or "why", you should ignore them until they do. Likewise, if someone begs and pleas about the plight of humankind without explaining what will be done and what the effects will be, they should be ignored!!!! This Yanis fella is a sadistic freak who wants to look like big man on the world stage, and he obviously knows exactly how to manipulate the majority.
@Critic224
@Critic224 2 жыл бұрын
When is the west going to stop selling its arms and weapons to conflict ridden countries!
@clecklass
@clecklass 9 жыл бұрын
That Greek bloke is bordering on insane. He talks about economics, as if that's all that matters and then Chris Bryant chips in with the tired, old mantra of the NHS being held together with migrants - as if that's a logical argument for uncontrolled, mass immigration. God bless Suzanne Evans, the only sane person (ok, Dimbelby behaved himself, just about) in this stitch-up.
@chucks6781
@chucks6781 2 жыл бұрын
We wouldnt need so many migrants in the NHS if we didnt have so many immigrants
@Rdm46-91
@Rdm46-91 2 жыл бұрын
Same conversation 6 years later
@LICKSTERxx
@LICKSTERxx 9 жыл бұрын
Should have listened to the Austrian chap with the little moustache 75 years ago
@gwynjones8709
@gwynjones8709 9 жыл бұрын
Not one ,Not one !!
@tonyedwards2693
@tonyedwards2693 4 жыл бұрын
🖕🏻
@johnrggreavesmietmieee
@johnrggreavesmietmieee 3 жыл бұрын
Just one question, what is the causation of all this conflict that is causing all these people to flee?? Is it Christianity? Is it Hinduism? Is it Judaism? What is the causation of all this conflict??
@tiborsua
@tiborsua 9 жыл бұрын
Start fair traiding, stop waste, start produce quality, start helping where needed instead of building up ego-kingdoms in pleasure-worlds. Get your own lives sorted and purified. Stop putting others lower than yourself, learn to communicate properly, control your fears and look for ambiguous solutions. We all want to live we all prefer friends over enemies. Is it not better to live with loving caring friends instead of playing Golf alone? Instead of playing computergames alone? Lets come back to Golf and computergames when the problems are solved and we have made some more friends.
@123asdzxc7
@123asdzxc7 3 жыл бұрын
Yanis has no clue what he's talking about.
@Kogotok45
@Kogotok45 9 жыл бұрын
The UK is open for suspicious migrants with doubtfull background, but if I, a law-obedient Russian, would like to come there simply as a tourist, they require me to fill the ten pages report about my grandparents, my work, my family, my wages, my additional money sourses. They demand full description of my real estate and my bank accounts. After all, they want to fingerprint me and make the retina scan. All that costs more than 300 pounds, and they want to get a deposit to make sure that I will come back home. And there is no any garantee that I would get visa, they can reject me without any explanations and all my money will be lost. Isn't it humiliative???
@kokoth
@kokoth 2 жыл бұрын
The former finance Minister of an economically failed state lecturing the British?
@mariettestabel275
@mariettestabel275 5 ай бұрын
?
@kailashpatel1706
@kailashpatel1706 8 жыл бұрын
How selfish is Suzanne Evans, 'Does Greece have the rule of law?'...Yanis pointed out quickly that Greece with an economy far smaller than the UK's (the UKIP argument after all is that we have the 5th biggest economy in the world) and yet it took in 1.5 million people since the end of the cold war out of a population of 10 million, 15% of its population, Yanis wiped the fall with them....
@adrianrouse5148
@adrianrouse5148 3 жыл бұрын
Migrants should be limited to the number of jobs available. The one man said we should be ashamed as Britain is one of the most wealthy country's in the world!!. Who owns that wealth. Not the normal working people. I am for helping refugees from wars and persecution. But not financial migrants. They must be put after refugees. And only if we have jobs for them
@allanwhiteley6199
@allanwhiteley6199 Жыл бұрын
Nothing said about security to are island people have not papers to prove who they are and no criminal records at as like other countries that have taken in asylum seekers and then a carnage of assaultes and criminal crime's.
@MyLiliya
@MyLiliya 8 жыл бұрын
There are allways a way out of the situation if we want. I think many people have a fear ( ksenophobie) to change something what they daily do and This makes them unsure. Migration was, is and will happen because it is the normal process. Year 435 the big Migration from Asia to Europe. And? Something bad happened? Be ready for all and dont let you live in fear. Better live with Migrants as with Nationalist.
@lauramartin5579
@lauramartin5579 3 жыл бұрын
As if S Moore cares about NHS, homeless or the poor!
@markcordwell2035
@markcordwell2035 3 жыл бұрын
This country bollocked
@MrAckers75
@MrAckers75 6 жыл бұрын
Wtf a Greek economist REALLY is this some kind of bad joke
@user-jw6yh4ev4n
@user-jw6yh4ev4n 3 жыл бұрын
Much smarter than you.
9 жыл бұрын
Everything everyone says, is bollocks. None of these people know what they are talking about. They are just highly paid, under qualified random drones. That's why NOTHING ever gets fixed or solved, no matter what any of these retards ever says. And stop pretending there is something UNITED about England, Scotland and the northern part of Ireland..
@scoldedcat
@scoldedcat 9 жыл бұрын
The Syrian refugees should stay there to support the war effort against Islamic fundamentalists. Especially military aged males.
@richardspeed7135
@richardspeed7135 2 жыл бұрын
Hadn't got bloody clue
@andrewcorbett5729
@andrewcorbett5729 5 жыл бұрын
Greece is a mess. Yannis has a great CV.
@patriciamotes2694
@patriciamotes2694 3 жыл бұрын
A true refugee MUST declare at FIRST SAFE COUNTRY they reach, not shop around for better welfare opportunities. If British citizens are waiting for a house, how is it justified to give a house to a NON CITIZEN ON TAX PAYERS DIME
@HugeStirz
@HugeStirz Жыл бұрын
The truth is that most Brits in 2022 have left the conversation completely, any opinion of integration or anything that was a deviation from let everyone in was called racist, so what's the point?, at the end of all this, Britain is left with division and hate
@MarcosJ-mq4lk
@MarcosJ-mq4lk 9 жыл бұрын
Let these liberals personally house 1-2 families from Syria or the many other countries !
@abdirahmanhaaji8833
@abdirahmanhaaji8833 5 жыл бұрын
How to apply I'm refugee
@SK-lz4tm
@SK-lz4tm 7 жыл бұрын
Yanis, as a fellow Greek descent, how disgusting it is to hear u to say that
@jacobstoodley3709
@jacobstoodley3709 2 жыл бұрын
Lucinda Blood is that you!?
@putrapratama-sq8hu
@putrapratama-sq8hu 9 жыл бұрын
Yanis Makes Everyone Looks Very Stupid!!!
@putrapratama-sq8hu
@putrapratama-sq8hu 9 жыл бұрын
***** No It Is Not... If He Is Look Stupid, Why Those The Other Panel Look More Stupid... Especially Those Two Female Who Always Speaking Out of Context...and Cant Provide Solution...
@putrapratama-sq8hu
@putrapratama-sq8hu 9 жыл бұрын
***** Thats the Point with the women.. Lol.. She doesn't know how to utilize something and being narrow minded on how economic works.. I wonder what kind education she's in...
@putrapratama-sq8hu
@putrapratama-sq8hu 9 жыл бұрын
***** If He Is Stupid There Wouldn't be Referendum in Greece... If He is Stupid, He Wont be notice EU Growth planning Metrics are the same with Germany..
@putrapratama-sq8hu
@putrapratama-sq8hu 9 жыл бұрын
***** I Agree With You on Greece... EU are Very Fragile... they Established Monetary Infrastructure without Establishing Fiscal Infrastructure... By its Current Condition EU are Doomed Project...
@putrapratama-sq8hu
@putrapratama-sq8hu 9 жыл бұрын
***** Actually EU could be Unified if Earlier from this Period They Got Unifying Language and Values... But it's a loong way to late for that... and Communism are bad for open society... But Libertarian-Socialism Could Work and it's very late now... My Country, Indonesia Have a very long Sins against Communism (We Slaughter more than One Million People after a Public Rage in 1966-1970)
@johnrudge-priestley985
@johnrudge-priestley985 9 жыл бұрын
as usual the left wing audiance clapping how many of the audiance would accomodate refugees none i expect
@shazzylogo
@shazzylogo 9 жыл бұрын
So Yanis wants a race to the bottom for all of the EU countries and then we can all end up like Greece, not thanks!
@steyningowl
@steyningowl 6 жыл бұрын
The Greek guy is clueless.
@user-jw6yh4ev4n
@user-jw6yh4ev4n 3 жыл бұрын
you are clueless
@CaseyKirby94
@CaseyKirby94 9 ай бұрын
This Yanis Faroufakis is really unbearable, so narcissistic and leaves in a fantasy world.
@ramshrestha8075
@ramshrestha8075 5 жыл бұрын
The root causes of making refugees are making the third countris vunrable condition .The respinsibilty goes to developed countries. They v stratigy of seeding of crisises e.g racism, religion, minority and majority, grasping,natural resources(mines, petrolium goods). Encourages rising crisises, ultimatly civil war is broken they are thrust of blood of britherthood of own country. All that events contribute to all development infrastructures demolished. Country's economy turns worse to more worse .People are left in saviour poverty due to alarming ratio of unemployment.All that responsible factors, people belonging to vulnerable countries, are compelled to migrating by puting owns life in a 'death point' to developed countries.The developed countries do cooperate to third countries in a way of giving10% but do benifit by 90%.e.g. the gold mines and petroliums goods.All that pricings go to the hands of G 7 countries.Their currencies Dollars and Euro are strong and it has dominated the world market.in 21st century countries belonging to third world v to survive on 'economic colony' under develooed countrues G7.
@edwardtang1977
@edwardtang1977 8 жыл бұрын
They already decided. They debate to make you think you have a choice.
@bbouchan1
@bbouchan1 8 жыл бұрын
Here's an update on my previous comment after the Paris attacks on Friday. "ET VOILA"
@stephencope7178
@stephencope7178 2 жыл бұрын
How many boat people have arrived since this programme aired??? Can we continue filling the hotels with them at our expense? It's costing us tens of millions of pounds!
@chucks6781
@chucks6781 2 жыл бұрын
Well lets build houses for them & expel homeowners from there homes & get thousands more here to fill the land with outsiders all free of course
@mariettestabel275
@mariettestabel275 5 ай бұрын
​​@@chucks6781 WHY are they here ??? Because of WARS!! Insane
@dereksanders7855
@dereksanders7855 3 жыл бұрын
Did he say ,,,,they when back,,,,or am I hearing things
@rijusaha1
@rijusaha1 9 жыл бұрын
All of the speakers were sub standard . Did not expect this .
@blackwarb
@blackwarb 6 ай бұрын
Hello Yais! Why don't you come to the UK and Sweden and see how the Kurds (call themselves Turkish)for example have taken over the high street with 5 barber shops and 10 fast food places in a tiny area. They have wiped out the British barbers.
@wisetalker428
@wisetalker428 6 жыл бұрын
It's like sitting in my house and teaching me to invite and keep unknown strangers BY FORCE
@Ricardo-zg1db
@Ricardo-zg1db 6 жыл бұрын
WISE TALKER No it is not. If England imports billions of pounds that doesn't mean you get billions in your house. That's just a clueless analogy. Immigration actually benefits the economy in the long run, the US would be nothing without it.
@russcrabtree4995
@russcrabtree4995 4 жыл бұрын
Come to Bradford and see for yourselves
@fahadnazir3912
@fahadnazir3912 3 жыл бұрын
I really need two things I don't have a room I would like to rent a room + food Please help me a little I'm telling you the truth God bless you
@pwillia8864
@pwillia8864 9 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most Bias question time I have watched. Do they realize they are playing into the far rights hands
@johnhodge1263
@johnhodge1263 3 жыл бұрын
BBC supporting this scape gloating when it's Thatcher who started the descrution of social housing.
@johnhodge1263
@johnhodge1263 3 жыл бұрын
Philip Green given a knighthood as his incompetence lead to 10,000 job losses throughout the UK.
@aethelstanking6036
@aethelstanking6036 2 жыл бұрын
6:50 my politics teacher
@burakgercekk1760
@burakgercekk1760 3 жыл бұрын
They are debating crazy on 20.000 while turkey has 3 million syrian without talking about it ahahahahhahaha
@anonylouis
@anonylouis 9 жыл бұрын
plz help me I have this in homework : "List the participants in this Cambridge BBC debate and summarize each one's opinion in one or two sentences." Thanks
@will21
@will21 9 жыл бұрын
every one is a beautiful butterfly.. regardless or where they are from, if we give them a big hug once they come they will be productive citizens!! muhaha
@terrymullins9772
@terrymullins9772 3 жыл бұрын
We have no more room !!!
@HamzaSalem
@HamzaSalem 9 жыл бұрын
This comments section makes me sick
@thepepper191
@thepepper191 8 жыл бұрын
It seems fascism always comes out the woodwork when people fear the unknown I think if they were to meet some of the refugees face to face they would not be so heartless, it comes partly from a lack of ignorance and only listening to what they want to hear.
@sagirashraf2790
@sagirashraf2790 5 жыл бұрын
@@thepepper191 don't worry America Military is in Europe. America economy is bigger than whole Europe combined. Fascism will never grow America won't let it grow
@lazypops3117
@lazypops3117 3 жыл бұрын
@@sagirashraf2790 *ahem* Trump
@goncalodias6402
@goncalodias6402 2 жыл бұрын
@@thepepper191 you mean islamic fascist that saudi arabia is leading to europe?
@sussumere4883
@sussumere4883 9 жыл бұрын
Varoufakis is brilliant
@lazypops3117
@lazypops3117 3 жыл бұрын
and tone deaf
@goncalodias6402
@goncalodias6402 2 жыл бұрын
literally, that bald head does shine. too bad its empty
@cheekybum6136
@cheekybum6136 2 жыл бұрын
What a remain audience
@patphillips5741
@patphillips5741 4 жыл бұрын
good points made on both sides but i wonder if they would hold their views if they were a minority in their own community
@JosephDoody1
@JosephDoody1 2 жыл бұрын
11:47 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@kensington1199
@kensington1199 3 жыл бұрын
Britain for Britons!
@santallum
@santallum 5 жыл бұрын
Import the third world ..... ..... Become the third world
@nultyjack8219
@nultyjack8219 4 жыл бұрын
Ffs
@Filbert66
@Filbert66 6 жыл бұрын
The Greek is wrong!!!!!!
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