Should climate change activists be applauded or arrested? | Question Time - BBC

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[@christianscott9491]

I feel like this debate would have benefited from a stronger scientific presence. It’s all well and good having people quote statistics but input from a real scientist specialising in the earth’s climate would have provided a better perspective

[@staceyraven3058]

What's the point? In this country experts are derided and Dave down the pub knows more

[@ifunanya24]

They wouldn’t do that because then their lies would be exposed. They operate on fear not facts.

[@FjS-GLY]

A scientist that hasn't been bought would be handy also.

[@charlespirate1]

People have had enough of experts. They prefer the ill informed ranting of right wing journalists and politicians.

[@thewilliamskids6783]

Not one scientist who knows FACTS on the panel says it all.

[@garytyme9384]

I agree, what one person has ALL these qualifications: Astronomy Solar Physic Geology Geochronology Geochemistry Sedimentology Techtonics Palaeontology Paleoecology Glaciology Climatology Meteorology Oceanography Ecology Archeology History Plus, Dr. Willie Soon has definitively shown that the SUN and Water Vapour is the driving force on this planet, not CO2. CO2 actaully mixes with the cloud cover and actually cools the plane i.e. Science Confirmed: Carbon Dioxide & Water Vapor Cool Earth’s Atmosphere Published on November 20, 2013 Mexican study affirms a 1951 finding by top American scientists that carbon dioxide (CO2) cannot cause global warming. Applying known scientific values, more eminent scientists are coming forward to confirm that atmospheric CO2 mixes with clouds and water vapor to cause only cooling. As such, the credibility of “consensus science” claims about man-made global warming being caused by rises in CO2 levels are left in serious doubt. Professor Nasif Nahle (Monterrey, Mexico) provides a peer-reviewed paper, ‘Determining the Total Emissivity of a Mixture of Gases Containing Overlapping Absorption Bands,’ that uses known and well-established values from the results of experiments performed previously by H. C. Hottel, B. Leckner, M. Lapp, C. B. Ludwig, A. F. Sarofim, et al, showing that the combined effect of overlapping absorption bands of water vapor with CO2 causes a reduction on the total absorptivity of the mixture of those gases in earth’s atmosphere. As such, water vapor and CO2 are proven to combine to cause global cooling, not warming.clouds Nahle’s paper affirms the long-forgotten findings of the eminent former head of Britain’s Met Office, CEP Brooks, and the American Meteorological Society (AMS) that also revealed that CO2 in the atmosphere could not cause warming. Brooks, Britain’s top climatologist at the time, along with America’s best meteorologists agreed that the idea that CO2 could warm the climate: “was never widely accepted and was abandoned when it was found that all the long-wave radiation [that would be] absorbed by CO2 is [already] absorbed by water vapor.” [see:“Geological and Historical Aspects of Climatic Change.” In Compendium of Meteorology, edited by Thomas F. Malone, pp. 1004-18 (at 1016). Boston: American Meteorological Association] Scientists at Principia Scientific International (PSI), who peer-reviewed Nahle’s paper, are currently advising colleagues that the most reliable data available now confirms that CO2 is shown to act as a coolant in earth’s climate. As such, the notion of a so-called ‘greenhouse gas’ warming effect may be regarded as refuted, while environmental measures by governments and individuals to reduce “carbon emissions” to combat climate change are, in turn, rendered pointless. So, no CO2 has nothing to do with it.

[@127cmore]

Co2level is tiny compared to amount of h2 0 in the atmosphere. Gonna ban clouds

[@14KroshTV]

the world is just evolving, its just right now today we can record it. people are too emotional to think and having ths eco anxienty, they are mentally weak.

[@garytyme9384]

@@127cmore Precisely...at least someone gets it.

[@garytyme9384]

@@14KroshTV It is done to the Sun, radiation and Sun Spots that determine the climate on this planet. And, yes, I agree. But, I do think that these weak-minded individuals are extremely uneducated. Do they understand that without CO2 nothing would grow? Do they also understand that we are carbon-based lifeforms? Do they realise that humans exhale 4% CO2 whilst breathing? If you look at this picture you'll see how CO2 is imperative in the growth of plants. i1.wp.com/www.farmhydroponics.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/CO2-Regulator-Connection-Diagram.png?resize=600%2C306&ssl=1

[@FPSIreland2]

As a scientist, this whole debate reminds me of the Isaac Asimov quote, and I paraphrase, “the issue with democracy is that it leads people to believe their uneducated opinion is just as valid as someone else’s educated opinion.”

[@GromDarkwater]

As someone with a master's in Climate Science and oceanography I am sick of these so called "scientists" manipulating data to match their hypothesis just to fit their political agenda.

[@nektekket852]

I can smell someone's pants on fire.....😂

[@FPSIreland2]

@@GromDarkwater and as someone with an understanding of basic thermodynamics I'm sick of people like you giving credence to the "sceptics". Plus, stop pretending that those who are "sceptical" don't have their own political agenda of maintaining the status quo.

[@GromDarkwater]

@@FPSIreland2 those who don't want to steal money from the public and impose their own will on others don't have a political agenda. I think you must be a bit slow. You seem to think those who want to steal your money and freedoms have your best interests in mind. On that note I have a bridge to sell you.

[@thumbob]

Actually the uneducated prove to be right at almost the same rate as the.educated. so that's not really a.good.measure. However one axiom proves to be true. Follow the money. Climate scientists who are funded by people who want to use climate data a.particular way usually find a way to give their employers what they want.

[@arthurmccann1084]

Why not have a respected scientist on the panel who’d like to tell you all why you’re wrong?

[@beyouitcould7907]

Two Scientists would be needed - one supporting the IPCC position and one providing an equally strong counter position (which do absolutely exist). This would then be a debate - which is not allowed any more as the Alarmists have declared that the Science is settled with a 97% consensus! Science can only be settled once hypothesise and theory match reality - certainly not happened yet (even historically) and Science is certainly not settled by consensus! If we could have a real debate, it would not be organised or broadcast by the BBC, as they have issued internal communication stating that they will no longer offer any counter position to the alarmist position. So, I was extremely surprised to see Julia H-B included in this QT - always offering a rational, reasoned and informed opinion.

[@nonegiven2830]

@@beyouitcould7907 nope, for it to be a balanced debate, you'd need 97 scientists who say climate change is real and 3 fossil fuel lobbyists... I mean "scientists" to say it's not.

[@secondchance4498]

@@nonegiven2830 A "climate denier" would likely be part of the 97%. The survey asks such things as...do you think the planet is getting warmer? do you think man is playing a part? and so on. The correct questions would be....by how much do you think the planet is warming? and by how much do you think man is affecting the planets warming?

[@amartatla5131]

It is nothing more than a hoax to enable bankers and sell out scientists to jump on the trillion dollar gravy train and bring about global social change to further enslave mankind. We only account for 3% of carbon emissions which is beneficial for the planet. Dumb brainwashed sheep believe anything they are forced fed. Actual science proves the opposite to be the case

[@imrandma]

Beyou Itcould You mean the sell out scientists who are payed by the fossil fuel companies to totally make a mockery of science itself by using dubious methods to debunk climate change. What a farce that would be.

[@gavinbissell8847]

There's no point even watching Qt anymore

[@tsmay4598]

Not very intelligent, your post. You either watch it or you don't.

[@gavinbissell8847]

@@tsmay4598 I watched some of it spunk trumpet so that proves you wrong 🤣

[@vaclavmiller8032]

What sudden change has happened?

[@random-person1]

@@gavinbissell8847 spunk trumpet? I'll have to remember that one Gavin, never heard it before but direct and straight to the point

[@tsmay4598]

@@gavinbissell8847 And it proves you're stupid.

[@BedsitBob]

"A bit of disruption is nothing." It is if you're in an ambulance, having had a heart attack, or a stroke.

[@BedsitBob]

@Maxine McKenzie 23 Do people in Mali, Burkina Faso and Senegal, have very high rates of heart attacks and respiratory failures?

[@acheface]

@Maxine McKenzie 23 Utter nonsense.

[@BedsitBob]

@@acheface Please elaborate.

[@GromDarkwater]

​@Maxine McKenzie 23 bs. The UK has been hotter. These "records" they keep banging on about are about 100 years old, humans in the UK have been here for thousands of years and roman written records show the temperature as hotter

[@fredatlas4396]

@BedsitBob Tell that to the tory Party. They are the ones who have been destroying our country, destroying our public services including the NHS since 2010, with their tory ideology and austerity policies. They are responsible for the long NHS waiting times, the lack of ambulances, the problems with trying to get a doctors appointment

[@BedsitBob]

"Our carbon emissions have barely come down." And China's have soared.

[@kenholmes7075]

We need more carbon, not less.

[@Dominic-fd2wz]

“What I don’t understand, Mr Rebellion, is why you is complaining about the environment while blocking the streets and causing mad mayhem, innit?” - Theo Theofoetus

[@PaulSmith-pf2uq]

Dominic He's 'street', innit?

[@M17_Max]

I'm out, you rebellion peeps is living with yous head in the clouds

[@corpgov]

Theo "yeah, let's plant some trees and that's our bit done, innit"

[@petem2010]

@@corpgov Planting trees is more productive than what XR have achieved so far lol

[@MsMamie]

@@petem2010 You sure got that right. Those idiots protesters dont have a clue.

[@duckpuddles]

Dr Rupert Read asserts that we are already experiencing catastrophic weather in the uk that has destroyed crops and will lead to starvation. I am a farmer and we have had record yields of all crops for the last two years

[@ceen3237]

In any weather, some crops struggle while others will thrive. Either way climate change activists will claim it supports their agenda.

[@californiancondor6860]

It has always been biased but watchable in the main. Unfortunately Fiona Bruce has lowered the standard immeasurably and has adopted the bbc's strategy of "ask a question but NEVER allow them a full answer. You MUST interrupt". It is now in its death throes as an informative programme.

[@windywindmill98]

I agree. She is immeasurably worse than Dimbleby

[@blackwarb]

You''re only saying that because she is a woman. Typical toxic male.

[@paulcrawford5437]

In respect to the climate what we need is education at EVERY level not "numpties" stopping people getting to work or hospital or anything else people need to do just to simply live.

[@iSuRRendeReDuK]

The next question "Should BBC management be arrested for paying out gagging order with the publics money?"

[@rowanwilliams7397]

What happened?

[@LukeWengles]

No. Idiot.

[@iSuRRendeReDuK]

@Brian Smith Yes, yes it should and it should also be shut down for forcing people to pay to watch their FREE competitors

[@craigmuscat613]

17:00 woman in mustard colour top talking about how she was held up because of the protesters and her son was crying but he'll get over it, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be saying that if it was a different scenario for example trying to reach a dying relative in hospital in time before they die (missed my grandfather by about two minutes because of traffic that was bad enough but I couldn't and wouldn't blame anyone for that but if it was someone purposely blocking my path I would have seriously drove right through them)

[@brg9327]

21:20 "Fracking is one of the cleanest forms of energy." Umm....no, it isnt....like at all. ------------------------------------------- We need to move towards a balance between nuclear power backed up by extensive use of renewable energy, primarily wind for us in the UK. Nuclear is the best source of energy we have by far in terms of fuel to energy generated. Case in point: 1kg of uranium contains the same amount of energy as 1,500,000kg (1500 tonnes) of coal. It produces vast quantities of power, is reliable and produces comparatively little waste. its main issues are the time it takes to build the plants, the cost and a bafflingly ilinformed public.

[@nonegiven2830]

I agree but we need to be moving towards thorium. There's more of it, it's easier to get, it's easier to process and less of it is wasted when it's spent.

[@benowen8321]

@@nonegiven2830 Thorium is shit.

[@nonegiven2830]

@@benowen8321 why?

[@benowen8321]

@@nonegiven2830 it undermines conventional nuclear power hahaha.

[@nonegiven2830]

@@benowen8321 conventional nuclear power which is massively inefficient and dangerous. The only reason we went the uranium route was because we were making weapons and power generation was a convenient by products. Like I said, Thorium is more abundant, easier to get, easier to process, safer to use and consumes more of the fuel.

[@glasshalffull8471]

Climate zealot wasn't listening....Rupert darling,the issue is not the cause but the protester's methods.

[@garryharriman7349]

Is Theo in our out? Does he want to demand a certain percentage of the debate before he takes part?

[@VoodooMadMike41]

All of these climate activists are saying that extinction and vast heating of the planet is 100% certain in the next 10 years or so, yet we can barely predict what the weather will be like at a given place 1 week ahead. Give me a break...

[@paulgus73]

Also, the NASA and NOAA data show that we have been cooling for the last 100 years.Greenland Ice Core Data shows we have been cooling for the last 6,000 years. Warm is better than Ice cold.

[@benowen8321]

@@paulgus73 does it. Did you get this data from nasa? Ya lol. climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ Think you were looking at the graph upside down mate.

[@andrewrobertsheehy]

Watching this 3 years later. Nothings changed, we’re all still here!

[@Gamer_Sebby]

And we've just had the hottest summer on record and the warmest mean temperature in November in decades. I can't remember the last time it was 40C in England. Where will we be in three further years with globally complacent governments?

[@Steve_the_Lion]

@@Gamer_Sebby Climate change is a scam

[@caitgems1]

@Wesley Buirkle in the 70's they said the planet would freeze. I wish they'd make their minds up which scam they're going with.

[@GromDarkwater]

​@@Gamer_Sebby it was 40 degrees on a runway after some jets had just used it. The 40 degree lie was exposed already. Try catching up

[@truth1013]

​@@Gamer_Sebby twenty years from now you'll have a better life than you have today if you do absolutely nothing about global warming it's a hoax

[@mathieuleader8601]

is this the first in a series of Question Time being uploaded to the BBC youtube channel or is it just a one-off?

[@mathieuleader8601]

@David Hargreaves really interesting

[@4Kandlez]

Just a thought BBC, it might have been useful to have someone on the panel who actually has authoritative knowledge on the subject, like maybe...a scientist. But then that would be to factual, and spoil the bickering among the guests.

[@Bren688]

Both. The public should stand around and applaud while the police arrest the spoilt, antisocial brats.

[@Humble_Grumble]

Oh look the Labour panel member took 1 minute and 39 seconds to sit on the fence and not answer the question. She must have been to the Corbyn school of fence-sitting.

[@johnb8956]

She was literally advertising Labour being useless lol

[@ianmorton140]

Just goes to show to how "managed" Question Time is, it's not nor ever has been open debate, just managed proproganda for the masses

[@rickknight3823]

Ian Morton Not one climate scientist on the panel! Emotional garbage and clap trap. There is an agenda being pushed - one world government and carbon tax as well as the more nefarious access to pension funds.

[@rickknight3823]

Jim Elliott Well, their plan to make us tire of Brexit worked! Does big business and corporate led economies really care about the people with humanity and a sense of altruism? Hardly.. it's all about self interested agendas and power play with a lot of these sycophant political virtue signalers.

[@ianmorton140]

@@nettils5555 i'm grown up thank you, unlike some snowflakes who comment on three year old news clips when everyone else has moved on

[@rodking2526]

not one attempt to present a fact showing the first island or reef to disappear beneath the waves. The tidal gauge on Fort Denison Sydney built in 1810 shows no rise at all. Check it Out.

[@dinodar8765]

7:48 I swear this is the only time I’ve ever actually seen someone un-ironically wag their finger in disagreement

[@mange2]

climate change doesn't just effect the UK and anything we do as a nation would make absolutely no difference whatsoever. Countries like China and India who are polluting the environment like the Industrial Revolution, are the ones that need to make the most significant changes, but they wont. They are developing and will not put climate above economic development. And even if every country on the planet became perfect zero emission countries overnight, it will still make no impact on climate change.

[@jayant9578]

Do these people clap over anything ? Stupid "debate" to manufacture consent.

[@lukewarmape603]

Clapping is canned btw

[@millwallholdings]

I hate the clapping it should be stopped, its irritating especially when its all leftie luvvies

[@lukewarmape603]

@@millwallholdings Sound like someones a snowflake, does clapping trigger you?

[@millwallholdings]

@@lukewarmape603 A winning snowflake if you please #TORYS2019 #BORIS2019 #TRUMP2020 #FARAGE2019 #ripliebore #ripcorbyn #byebyeabbott

[@Skjerstad1812]

Clapping causes global warming. Lol.

[@michaelcox8820]

A couple thousand years ago the area around the river Nile was luscious and fertile, then it became a desert. There were no cars, factories etc back then.

[@Salgood]

Very good. No it was caused more slowly by other factors. Now, you get to look forward to the Thames River likely doing something like the same but cold, after the Atlantic conveyor belt cycle stops bringing you warm water. Then the UK can wait until the progression of climate change heats you up enough than desertification is an option too.

[@peterholden9357]

Michael Cox - Have you looked up Dunning Kruger effect?

[@stephens6815]

If it is against the law, arrest them. Their cause doesn't come into it. The police are supposed to uphold the law.

[@fivegoldstar6811]

The moment modern society collapsed then maybe the environment can catch a break.

[@poitsplace]

If you'll look into the matter you'll find that the developed world is already far nicer for the environment. Its when nations are poor that they pollute.

[@beammeup8458]

ARRESTED AND PUT TO WORK ON ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

[@instantclassic1991]

I was expecting Theo to say "Im out" 🤣

[@jimmysmith736]

Seriously lol all these people are just weird, lack of commen senses. At the end of the day this is all to do with taxes and money.

[@lukedominicodonnell2347]

No body listens to a rant. We are all aware of the issue but at different levels of understanding.

[@MrJoecool9999]

Lisa Nandy - the last time i saw her on Question Time said - "...and I really believe that 'Collectivism' is the way forward....!" - and no-one batted an eyelid.....!

[@breadonitsown8950]

And Extinction guy comparing himself to MLK and Ghandi? Shame

[@philipfreyaborn8288]

Er ...no he's a much better man than that Paedo hypocrite Ghandi

[@Katie-ul4dg]

philip freyaborn facts

[@PompeyChris71]

Best thing I've seen today is when the working public pulled that tosser down from the top of the train onto the floor for a good kicking. When will these cretins realise that people have to go to work etc and most of us don't give a flying fig what these prats want. Just because they have nothing to do all day doesn't give them the right to stop decent hard working people going about their daily lives. If they carry on they must be prepared to be punished for it and I don't mean by the cops.

[@mishapurser7542]

Applauded. If politicians had taken their responsibilities seriously in 1970 then such activism wouldn't be necessary now. But it's corporations that ultimately need to be held legally and criminally responsible for this issue.

[@tdwilson1]

In the early 70’s they were warning people we were going into the next ice age!!!

[@dawnhauton7543]

Idiot... there is NO emergency just a CULT.......I am watching this in 2022 and the same rubbish is being spouted , word for word...

[@barneyrichmond9764]

I can’t believe no one mentioned the fact that people should have the right to private car ownership without government interference?! I’m sorry what!? What about people who want their own car without loads of taxes, want to drive alone or simply don’t won’t to take public transportation?!

[@DamiensTrainsandTravels]

If train and bus fares were cheaper more people would travel on and if they put money into the infrastructure be a lot better.

[@josephhandford6138]

A bit of disruption can cost lives if an ambulance is merely a few seconds late.

[@finlaycox8026]

This is true, and it's why Extinction Rebellion both provides emergency services with detailed information of their blockades, and alternative routes, as well as always allowing them through the blockades if they need. It's worth remembering that central locations in London are often blocked, for example by the Royal Parks Marathon that happened yesterday, or by events like the state opening of Parliament which happens tomorrow - emergency services have contingency plans for this sort of thing.

[@josephhandford6138]

@@finlaycox8026 Which can still mean an ambulance can arrive too late if it has to take an alternative route!

[@finlaycox8026]

@Spinler Muckflitt Really? I had to borrow money just to afford to get down to London. This might be alien to you, but I don't need to be paid to add my voice to the thousands who are righteously putting the most important issue of our time on the top of the agenda.

[@SubscribersWithoutAnySubscribe]

@@finlaycox8026 What rubbish, you're protesting in a country that has done the most to combat that issue. In no world is this an effective strategy to combat climate change.

[@superzeke76]

This is one of the most appalling videos I've ever watched. I am amazed how many sheep have bought into a terror narrative and are just mentally gone beyond the point of help. Thank God there is still a Julia Hartley-Brewer left.

[@celticRicky]

I hope Glastonbury gets cancelled. All festivals to teach them a lesson

[@tubemonks]

Yes I agree. Just think of all the Co2 that's emitted from there, let alone all the Co2 being emitted from the Climate Emergency bullshit.

[@MrOctagon20]

These same weirdos and this was on the main news chained themselves to a funeral hurst to stop it doing its jobs .

[@finlaycox8026]

Not so - the hearse that people were chained to was old and decommissioned, it wasn't stopped from attending funerals. It was there simply as a symbolic representation of the deaths present and future in which either the climate or pollution was a factor.

[@nmsmith1158]

We are on the edge of a catastrophe, we now have surplus of virtuous activists in the world and we may urgently need to invent more problems for them to deal with or we are in danger of them having nothing meaningful to do

[@amyjohnston6623]

Julia is the only one speaking sense here

[@7rox1990]

We're moving faster than most- in fact too fast and it is causing hurt to some of our most vulnerable citizens- because most politicians want to be yuppie pleasers. Be realistic

[@BedsitBob]

You don't "take people with you", by pissing them off.

[@robertwaye803]

In the u.k it will make no difference to are day to day living so the u.k produces 1% of pollution China Russia India America produces over 85% so why has the U.K working people got to pay so much.

[@thedarkness111]

Please tell me I'm not the only person who laughed at 'Let's hear our first question tonight, from Sally Knight'.

[@endeavour5762]

Why do they always drag a bunch of irrelevant people and reality tv stars onto the show?

[@humanpotatoes4958]

Lol, Theo P’s face during that intro looked like they’d force-fed him a tablespoon full of dog pooh before shoving him into his seat! 🤣

[@craigoverbey9807]

“...none of them worked.” Because they are all hypocrites, if they lived like they preached more people would take “ them “ serious. They have become the exact people that rage against.

[@Writeous0ne]

The reality is, anyone who lives in a way that reduces climate change would mean living in the dark ages.

[@mikerathbone-jones3141]

Julia is spot on

[@John-he6yh]

The false even-handedness of these "activists" knows no bounds. Their's is a religion without spirit.

[@jameswiglesworth5004]

Julia Hartley Brewer the only person on the panel talking sense about climate change.

[@Skjerstad1812]

They are all nuts. Only Julia has the nerve to stand up to this lunacy. People need to understand the difference between climate and weather.

[@caitlinbrennan9039]

hahahahahahahaha

[@carlpierce2486]

Your the one who is nuts as our planet heats up.

[@Skjerstad1812]

@@carlpierce2486 get a grip Carl, we have millions of years of the climate changing. We have weather, sometimes it gets warm and sometimes it gets cold, sometimes it rains. Now if you think you can control that well i would have to say you were God, and you ain't so grow up.

[@peterthepilot4413]

Julia you speak common sense

[@claudiapennarojas972]

Lol

[@waylander7943]

Seeing as we are on YT. type in "CLUB OF ROME" if you want to know where this nonsense comes from.

[@tubemonks]

Yes but the Club Of Rome is but one of the many groups like CFR, UN, WHO, WWLF, Knights of Malta, Zionists, Freemasons, Catholic Church, Jesuits, Rosecricians etc etc. All a part of what started as .... dare I say it? The Illuminati.

[@waylander7943]

@@tubemonks baby steps..

[@tubemonks]

@@waylander7943 Yes I know what you mean.

[@scaryfakevirus]

@@waylander7943 Haha Don't frighten the sheep.

[@waylander7943]

@@scaryfakevirus yes. If you say "round table" to them, they will go and watch Camalot..

[@Gray504]

You don’t need to be a scientist to know it’s wrong to glue yourself to the M5

[@rolotomasi5935]

"I asked a teenager her opinion on Extinction rebellion." A grown man workingfor Greenpeace? Ask Greta this "As a 14 year old, what was the definitive proof you read and understood that made you so certain that there is a climate crisis." If we could all read that very simple and verifiable explanation we don't need to debate. It must be really clear, simple and verifiable - right?

[@meadi6510]

We are just coming out of a mini ice age. It was warmer in tudor times in Britain than now. Then it dropped for a while. That's why the river Thames used to freeze over. Like in old Christmas cards. We are now warming back up again slowly. Its the Sun that effects the temperature on earth more than anything.

[@macraghnaill3553]

Meadi, Yes,Minoan Roman/Medieval Warm Periods all warmer then present each warm period was followed by a cold period, the LIA being the coldest and ended around 1850, the Holocene Climate Optimum was around 3c warmer than present and the previous interglacial was around 8c warmer than this one

[@meadi6510]

@@macraghnaill3553yes thank you. Also the governments of the world obviously know this and some are using it to this to scam us and push agendas. China must be laughing at us.

[@chapmasi]

Grant Shapps hit's the nail on the head 14:31 "Go protest in a country doing nothing!"

[@andrewmartin6445]

The only person on that panel who made any sense was Julia H-B.

[@horstwestpfahl2459]

If I was ever unlucky enough to see someone Glueing Themselves to any road I might run straight to the Local Council Yard and drive myself a Steamroller. Speedbump Flatened..🤣🤣🤣

[@bennyl7224]

“I’ve tried for 20 years using the old methods.... it doesn’t work” That’s because it’s BS and the public are smart enough to realise that Edit: lady in pink, quality analysis

[@tc9634]

What is bs, evidence please?

[@Writeous0ne]

@@tc9634 the assertion that climate change is going to cause an extinction. No climate scientist is saying that. They estimate to melt the ice caps will take around 5,000 years (this would cause coastal land to be lost over time but also land in the northern hemisphere would be gained BUT would not cause extinction) Another prediction is that the acidity of the ocean will cause a lot of marine life to die (although this would be bad it would NOT cause extinction) There has been 5 extinction events in the history of the earth and NONE were cause by the climate.

[@UnknownUser-by4le]

@@Writeous0ne thank you. Nader have truer words be spoken

[@lingolarker9318]

I fear too many people still swallow the BS.

[@bennyl7224]

@@tc9634 climate alarmism is BS

[@katynewt]

Should the BBC be arrested for putting lots of idiots in the audience who sneer at sensible comments made by pragmatic panelists? 😒

[@annwalpole1593]

Shut up mate anyone can go a d watch I have been myself

[@AA-lu5gp]

@Brian Smith Do pray tell us what your educational achievements are, I'm all ears.

[@AA-lu5gp]

@Brian Smith So basically you have none; that's educational achievements, I am talking about, in case you're confused about it too. And precisely because 'what's in between' is what counts, and the lack of much of that - as revealed in your case - correlates positively with being 'easily led', there's one obvious logical conclusion and it ain't benefiting you.

[@elishalliday9987]

The same people moaning about CO2 emissions are also apposed to nuclear power and fracking. These are the two most viable options at present to meet our energy demands and the increase of energy demands if we minimise our use of fossil fuels. We don't have the energy storage capacity to implement wind and solar to cover our 24/7 needs. We also can't see hydro as a viable main option as it destroys the ecosystems around it. The whole problem would really be sorted if we invented a 'super battery' for lack of a better phrase. However we don't have this solution yet so we need to invest in infrastructure like nuclear fission until technology such as better energy storage and nuclear fusion become viable options. Hippies acting like buffoons telling us to go vegan and stop driving our nasty cars to work aren't in anyway helping the situation. Wow your first rebellion may have caused a piece of legislation but that legislation has physically done nothing for the environment. All it's done is make the government promise something so instead of dancing round looking like you're on spice maybe you should get educated in a field of science or engineering in which we are working to actually solve the problem in a way that doesn't involve us having a blackout period at night were no electricity can be used because there's nothing to use or whatever little there is to use is being used at hospitals and only for essentials

[@grimupnorth9336]

XR is a "quasi religious death cult" haha, quote of the day

[@random-person1]

13:00. this man is asking a child what she thinks, is he serious?

[@RkristinaTay]

An abused, exploited child with a mental problem that is infecting children in schools. We'll have a generation of 'the end is nigh' lunatics and neurotics worse than now growing up.

[@random-person1]

@@RkristinaTay totally agree with you. and for the record, these people are very late to the game as this climate stuff has been going on for many more years than either of these people (16 year old greta and child listener) have been on this planet.

[@random-person1]

@stephen stewart funny you should say that Stephen. i have an 18 year old daughter who has just given birth to a beautiful boy, finally a granddad at 53! thing is though, i wouldnt expect to take advice from her on how to bring up a baby..........!!

[@nonegiven2830]

@@RkristinaTay watching you people freak out over a child is amazing. It really speaks volumes about your characters.

[@benowen8321]

@@nonegiven2830 watching you freak out over people freaking out over a child is amazing. It really speaks volumes about your character.

[@Frederique41]

Why everything is a battle? 😩😫😪

[@gufpott]

I wonder how this conversation would have gone 6 months later. The panellists are discussing "rapid and far reaching" change to society. They didn't have to wait long. In April 20, in response to Covid19, the UK is in lock-down, national debt ballooning, and we are facing the prospect of economic meltdown. The foremost question in many minds is whether we will have a job in the next few weeks, how to keep mortgage payments going, and whether we will continue to own the roofs over our heads. Where does this place the nebulous concept of some "climate emergency" as a national priority? The above audience shows readiness for some kind of sacrifice and many are tolerant of XR disruption - example of living life in a comfortable bubble.

[@jimmy2minutes]

Wine crops were not failing. They had a bumper harvest.

[@brg9327]

In the UK or France?

[@jimmy2minutes]

@@brg9327 UK.

[@Gavin48]

Julia Hartley Brewer talks so much sense. Why does she get so much Hate?

[@oldtimer5111]

The first sentence is the answer to the second, the left don't like sense, they like feelings.

[@Salgood]

False. So no, she does not, she's doing what she's accusing other of [of course]. The proposition is NOT to go back to a pre industrial age at all. It's to move into a more efficient post industrial age. Julia Hartley Brewer is just plain lying, so yes, given the stakes that's worthy of some hate.

[@Philshki82]

Gavin48 Because truth is the new hate speech!

[@andrewmartin6445]

@@Salgood What is the term "post industrial age" supposed to mean if not a return to the kind of living conditions that existed before the industrial revolution? Actually, the reality would be a lot worse because of the much greater population. It would be mass starvation rather than subsistence. It's all rather reminiscent of Pol Pot's insistence that everybody had to go back to "year zero". That didn't end well. This climate alarmism is a pretext for political extremism which has a lot more to do with the appropriation of property and seizure of power than it has to do with concern for the environment.

[@Salgood]

@@andrewmartin6445 Yes that's right, it's actaully being suggested you use a horse and cart. That's fatuous bullshit and you bloody know it.

[@kuyaks]

I'd like to see you "disrupt" moscow or china even middle eastern capitals..

[@cardigan3000]

so you think authoritarian regimes are a good thing?

[@tc9634]

Ah so then you can criticise them for travelling there to do that and for not focusing on what we can do at home and for imposing colonial environmentalism on other countries? What you said made no sense.

[@AustralianQldDad]

24 mins video ; easy 10 second answer “ yes throw them in jail “

[@paga12621]

What do these people consider an improvement for the people? In my view, improvement is more money in my pocket and a better life for me and my family, not finding as many stupid excuses to make life considerably more difficult and expensive chasing impossible goals. The whole group of these people going on and on about "Climate Change", this phenomenon has been going on for millions of years, only recently has this been presented as an emergency, because someone decided there were enough idiots that would believe all this crap and cough up a bunch of cash.

[@2lazybum]

There wouldnt need to be protests if people did something. Simple as that. When the people who own everything and are in charge decide to do something then protests are not needed. Protests are not meant to be convenient, theyre meant to draw attention and try to compel action on something.

[@michaelwoods3462]

Sixth form analyses are not required. Thanks.

[@bushwhacked7112]

Open borders or climate change, they really need to pick one, they can’t have both.

[@michaelwoods3462]

@Dave Smith Correct.

[@landya.9258]

@@bushwhacked7112 Nobody is asking for open border. If you want to stop the refugee crisis then stop the never-ending wars created by the fossil fuel industry.

[@Tony-uq8tn]

@@landya.9258 Wars are mainly fought over religion. That should be banned. World would be a much nicer place.

[@MikMech]

'Climate' is the New Religion.

[@platonkarataev550]

I worry whenever the labour party offers support to protest groups. Their position will have to change when in power.

[@stephencarlson9963]

i dont think or believe that all policemen think like unstrained, unanswerable people to the will of the majority. they will never humiliate, or want to be seen in such a way by ANYONE.

[@Capgungoesbang]

The fact this is even debated is defeating the climate activists goal, which is to shut up and just get a move on to protect our environment so they don’t have to protest in the first place.

[@tristangriffith7362]

I think they do also want debate because it brings awareness to the issue for people who are not taking it seriously yet

[@tristangriffith7362]

@Spinler Muckflitt Well that can be your interpretation!

[@zzebowa]

They should be laughed at, the same way you laugh at a child running around screaming 'The Sky is FALLING!!!'

[@neilgibbs1973]

What the eff does Nandy know about atmospheric physics? Darling Rupert is a psychologist I believe , so again has no experience in the subject he professes to be an expert on.The IPCC is a political organisation first and foremost.What's so galling about these people is their self righteous view of this subject , they vilify alternate opinion and it was notable yet again that only one panellist was an informed sceptic .How about inviting a scientist who disagrees with this apocalyptic tosh onto the programme ? Oh I forgot Fran Unsworth at the BBC banned them from speaking on the subject!

[@realityalwaysbulliesopinio1961]

Why doesn’t Rupert Read organise a debate between an actual climate change scientist and Piers Corbyn???

[@danish9860]

Just a thought, when I buy grapes, often they come from India, shouldnt we buy from the nearst country that produces grapes? that would save alot of carbon emmissions, right??

[@benowen8321]

Basically in the UK we should just eat bread and potatoes and all share housing to keep each other warm in winter.

[@trickyrikki6823]

The failed politician has finally got the spotlight and power hes craved for decades. Pathetic alarmists

[@brillsmith2207]

just like the far right

[@tokyodoru]

this is what insanity looks like

[@rubyyes2862]

The real problem here is that people will never follow advice

[@darrellbrown5496]

This always reminds me of a gospel song that goes “ sad so sad, it’s going to be too late!

[@sarzl1980]

How come the lefties both have lisps?

[@anonomous8719]

Too much soya around the lips.

[@chefpigardorito3590]

I don't know. Does it really matter?

[@ufewl]

Middle class inbreeding. It is very common.

[@cheechwong2293]

British government actually support this kind of protest and even encourage it. British MP's came out in full support for the HK protest which is much more violent than the UK version. Now that it's happening in their own turf, would they be as supportive even when the protest is for a good cause?

[@jimiellis6060]

To demonstrate is good, audience applaud, to demonstrate is bad, audience applaud, climate change is a natural event, audience applaud, climate change is controlled by us, audience applaud, etc etc etc.

[@alexseioo610]

Breakfast host... 🤦‍♂️🙄 Did she get lost?

[@Delogros]

Given she is the main sensible one, probably :)

[@Sewpot]

Also Julia is magnificent

[@ericfeldkamp3788]

Round them up, put em on a barge and set them adrift.

[@NOT_SURE..]

when david cameron was pm, he had a meeting with putin , he was particularly interested in learning from him how to control people through fear , and this environment stuff is perfect for that , get everyone worried even more than they are now.. i noticed gail barbrook the founder of ER, a biologist, is a neigbour of davis cameron, probably go to the same polo club or something ..there is nothing to fear but fear itself.

[@darrengrimmer8541]

Rupert said he’s been “working” in a particular area for however many years. I personally don’t believe he has done a days work in his life. Jobs and work are completely different things

[@stauffap]

Lets not pretend that this comment is anything but an ad hominem fallacy. Not worth the many likes. And lets also not ignore that his opinion that research isn't hard work is completely arbitrary. Maybe he should stop using the internet if he values the work of academics so little. Despite being an academic this guy is prepared to go to prison for his convictions, plan protests, find supporters, he endures being hated by a lot of people... When YOU go into the public and fight for a conviction that you know is going to provoke a lot of hate against you then lets talk again about hard work.

[@darrengrimmer8541]

stau ffap oh dear

[@robbiespence6504]

He's a university teacher. Look him up before you comment.

[@allandesoer7672]

@@robbiespence6504 Glad he's not teaching any of my family.

[@SALZOPYRIN]

BURNT AT THE STAKE......COMES TO MINE !

[@johnboy5156]

21:48 . . Mark Carney supports the cause because he is a Canadian & in the early nineties in Ontario Nuclear power & coal fueled power stations where closed down in favour of wind farms and since then Ontarian's have been paying a surcharge on their electricity bills .

[@jamesmain5625]

Why show only 24 minutes?