BCM 12.5 Pistol Project

[@cook1emonst3r18]

put weapons lube on your flashlight lense. when carbon builds up you can just wipe it off and re apply. keeps your lense crystal clear.

[@seanwhite304]

That us correct . My cousin who is SOCOM taught me that 5 or 6 years ago

[@josephborella2617]

pro tip!

[@spoke1183]

Thats a bad idea anything oily will pick up more dust and particles rather then just clean crystal glass. Im sure this make sense try washing you car and drive it on dirt road lol see how much more dust and shit will stick to it.

[@robertfazio4342]

Thanks a lot that’ll be helpful bro

[@yeshua1176]

Lip balm works better plus it's easily stored in the hand grip or foregrip

[@MrOliverk2]

OAL is measured from the end of the buffer tube to the end of the barrel. The end of the barrel does not include the muzzle device if it’s not pinned.

[@144Souldier]

Question. I'm about to build an ar pistol. I'm hearing you cant run a foregrip on an ar pistol. How is his legally an ar pistol.

[@desertpinoy5616]

144 he said that he had a 12.5 inch barrel if you measure from buffer tube to barrel(without flash hider) he would exceed 26 inches OAL. Now if you can’t do that then I would tac-weld a 10.5 inch upper that way it is permanently attached to the barrel of course you can change the brake into a longer on if you want to and weld it to make it longer. That’s what I’m probably gonna do and put an echo trigger and have my version of the military arms channel” NFA Nutkicker “.

[@beck4218]

Blue is still clear with this setup.

[@7seasons31]

@Austin Litt Moore correct. If the overall length is more than 26” it’s a “firearm” (not a pistol or rifle) and any grip can be used

[@jpoll4824]

The grip his running on his pistol isn't a vertical grip,vertical grip is 90 degree, that grip is 85 degree

[@KaneGregory]

This might be one of the best setups I’ve ever seen that trijicon 1-6 makes my compass 🧭 point north!🤯🔫💣

[@bluegunner4719]

Thanks! Accupoint is being slept on

[@fubar1217]

You can probably remove some of the bulk in that flashlight setup by bypassing the picatinny interface on the flashlight and mount directly to the KDG mount.

[@911couple5]

Literally my next build planned thanks for showing me what it looks like.

[@bluegunner4719]

My pleasure!

[@worldwide1873]

I have the older accupoint model and a 16” DD but other than that it is the same set up! Definitely a good go to for anything.

[@universallaw8850]

My opinion 12.5 is the perfect length for most defensive situations as well as vehicle deployment

[@socaljarhead7670]

It is.

[@Folgrin]

Nice build bro. @ 4:00 interesting how the trigger pins move. Also thats a BCM A2X Extended A2 Flash Hider you have there I believe, little bit better than a standard a2 they say

[@bluegunner4719]

Folgrin wow I just saw that! I’ll have a closer look later and let ya’ll know if they start walking out

[@JohnBlaze505]

That's how they were designed. That's also why KNS and anti rotation pins aren't good for your lower.

[@ShooterGuy-sq9is]

Not having the hammer spring legs in the trigger pin grooves creates less tension in the hammer spring and causes lighter firing pin strikes that may not set off a harder primer.

[@anraegodley-cooper6321]

Great setup brother, Blessings to you and your family.

[@KiLLJOY1056]

I was shocked when i saw your build because mine looks exactly the same… down to the inch or two of exposed barrel. Im running 12” barrel (including pinned a2 muzzle) with 10” Quad Rail ris. And the gunfighter mod 3 vertical. Gotta love it man. 12.5” is definitely the “do it all” length. Sounds like you might want to grease up your charging handle though. Youll remove that scratching noise and it will be much smoother in and out.

[@CivilitaryMinuteman]

Very nice build. You never regret buying quality and, clearly, you have a quality set up...

[@ExplorinInTheWoods]

As soon as I saw that 1-6 Accupoint I gave the video a like. It’s a great optic.

[@DutchK75]

I built roughly the same pistol. MK2 upper. BCM ambi charging handle. And BCG. Since I don't own a suppressor. I put a 6315 bird cage from Forward Controls on it. I always run a Sprinco extractor spring. The lower is a A5 from BCM. LAW folder. I'm a huge fan of the A5. Green Spring, AH5A2 and Bad Saftey. Stock trigger. Surefire and a old Aimpoint Pro I have on a Wilcox mount. Oh and same brace you have.

[@bluegunner4719]

Nice! I’ve been looking for the A5 Buffer system. Seems to be out of stock everywhere I look

[@DutchK75]

@@bluegunner4719 I bought a complete BCM lower with the A5. G&R sells them. I had a green spring and A5H2.

[@CodySnell_87]

Nice build, and I agree the bcm trigger is perfect in my mind for self defense or combat its nice

[@trevordelarosa3599]

Idk I like my geissele SD-C a lot

[@joshrains2507]

This is the first time I have seen your channel. And i just literally added a 12" Palmetto 6.5 Grendel uppee to my Troy lower.... soon to be a Franklin Armory bindery pistol lower. With all that I'm just over 26 inches. Watching your vid and reading all the comments was very helpful to my build... Thanks for posting and keep up the good work

[@bluegunner4719]

I’m glad you were able to find some help on the channel! I’ve learned a lot myself since starting the channel. I got more planned in the future. Thanks for watching!

[@joshrains2507]

@@bluegunner4719 just measured my pistol and I'm one quarter inch over 26 inches. So I'm good for the vertical hand grip

[@ultimatelv27]

@@joshrains2507 My understanding is that in order to put a vertical grip, your weapon has to have a barrel length of 16 inches or longer AND overall length of 26 inches or greater. You have to have both.

[@Training_Tsuna_]

What buffer weight and spring do you use and what is the ejection pattern you get from it?

[@patrickwooton966]

That charging handle wont snag on gear but that light mount forcing the light out 3 inches from the handguard might.

[@CaptainCreampie69]

I’m glad you showed me the gun was clear and safe. I was scared you might shoot me through the camera. 😂🤣😂

[@caseydickerson9]

The OAL of a AR-15 type weapon is measured from the end of the buffer tube (with the brace off) to the front of the threaded part of the barrel unless the muzzle device is permanently attached (pin and welded) then it can be included in the OAL measurement. This measurement must exceed 26” in order for a person to put a vertical fore grip on the rail.

[@l337l0gan]

This is currently true. Will make a difference.

[@mikebrockway6099]

He states according to Magpul that this is angled. (Although very slightly)

[@valentinoross6555]

@@mikebrockway6099 this is a BCM grip

[@Yourerealdad69]

@@valentinoross6555 na

[@valentinoross6555]

@@Yourerealdad69 BCM gunfighter grip. I have the same one dude. Ya

[@ilikeguns8873]

my bcm 12.5 is set up the exact same,i could recommend an offset red dot when running LPVO its worth playing round with

[@bluegunner4719]

I definitely thought about it, but wanted my sight options to be battery free. I’m sure I’ll at least try it in the future tho. Thanks!

[@ilikeguns8873]

Blue Gunner there is a RMR that is fiber optic and tritium, but that 450ish dollars i will say it is faster that iron sights.

[@martinandrews8496]

What’s up broski I’ve watched ur mk18 block 3 vid prob a million times bc I have that same general build that I just finished and on st patty’s day I got a rosco 12.5 barrel for a great deal so it’s my new build and what I was woundering is a) which do u like more the bcm or geissele mlok rail and b) if u could pick what is the ideal length hand guard for the 12.5 if u has ur way

[@martinandrews8496]

@Remington Steel yea I ended up doin that also. Unless u get the gas block with the geissele rail it isn’t worth it imo I love how the Finish in the bcm feels also.

[@bradplowman5520]

I have the strike industries angled vertical fore grip, can I put that on a 10.5” .300 blk pistol with an sba5 brace?

[@ipwnu11b]

sexy gun. just picked up my bcm 11.5' mk2. cant wait

[@jzaden10]

You lucky dog you, I want mine with the qrf handguard I want to make a battle pistol

[@tfrost33elkhunter]

I really like that set up! Great looking. I’m sure it performs nice!

[@Leeeroyyy149]

Nice set up! Been eyeballing a BCM pistol lower but seems they are always out of stock. Still can't decide btw 11.5 vs 12.5

[@bluegunner4719]

It was a hard choice for me too. In the end though, I don’t think the difference is that big.

[@TacTony]

Supressed? 11.5 Unsupressed? 12.5 The extra inch is absolutely worth the added bulk in my opinion, but if you are suppressing the weapon then taking a inch off would be best for maneuverability

[@corbinhuber9575]

12.5 has an extra 130-160fps more velocity with that extra 1”

[@corbinhuber9575]

TacticalTony str8 from garandthumb right?

[@spade2you]

Corbin Huber I have a 12.5" and a suppressor. Can it be used for CQB? Sure. It's a little long and front heavy. I'm planning on getting a 10.5" for home defense with the suppressor.

[@sarahshowalter9539]

Nice looking blaster and well done.

[@fook-joby-den6172]

Safeties, the Radian is nice, but the FCD/SOLGW: Q50-Long/L+Short/R is King. Ultra Crisp & positive feel(both a tactile & audible). Swapping the Magpul pros for an Arisaka 35/45 offset mount w/HE508T or HE509T would allow you to run LPVO @Max Magnification & snap back/forth vs having to dial down, locate target, dial up & engage. If you don’t have any issues with bolt catch or desire a larger surface area your likely gtg. As overall it’s a nice set up.

[@don8659]

Hey man nice setup. Also if you're interested in running your light closer to the weapon rail so that it doesn't stick out so much (seen guys bust their lights turning corners shooting indoors) look into the thorntail from haley strategic. It mounts directly to the light and runs between your side and top picatinny rail.

[@PrettyLady7282]

what is the total cost for the pistol no include the Trijicon Accupoint unit & flashlight?

[@yeshua1176]

1k easily

[@PrettyLady7282]

@@yeshua1176 sound great. it looks sexy as hell LOL 🧡it

[@ohyahlinkinpark4life]

So if I’m getting this right... when I build my ar pistol if it is longer than 26 inches I am good to put a vertical foregrip on it without having to pay any kind of tax stamp?

[@bluegunner4719]

Correct. However make sure you measure from the end of your buffer tube to the end of your muzzle device. If you have a folding brace, you have to start your measurement from the folding device to the muzzle device. And if your muzzle device is not pinned, the measurement has to be stopped at the tip of the barrel. Mrgunsngear has a lot of great videos about this specifically.

[@ohyahlinkinpark4life]

Blue Gunner awesome thanks! ... that was probably the clearest answer to any questions I’ve ever asked about ar pistols 😂

[@mikebrockway6099]

Is this actually a pistol? I think this combo likely measures >26” which is the upper limit for pistol. It should likely be considered a “firearm” as long as there is never a butt stock attached (buttstock = SBR)

[@nigelhardy3978]

This build is honestly perfect for my AO. Curious of the total cost of this project.

[@miguelrojas1686]

1k-1.3k for rifle scope and mount probably 1k ish back up sights 150ish

[@DTreatz]

Does the SBA4 brace sling point feel comfortable and put it over 26" for the latter put question if yes just dont reply 😉

[@SkepticalTiger]

Not the OP, but I like it a bit better than the SBA3. TXREX Arms makes a good point that the QD location is a bit easier to work with. OAL for this is without the brace since it's an accessory not required for function of the firearm.

[@DEATH_TO_TYRANTS]

I saw the title, 12.5 has a soft spot in my heart. Then I saw the uploader, and I literally made a noise. Somewhere in between yes!! and a sort of squeal. Lol

[@bluegunner4719]

Ha! I’m glad. That’s the kind of reaction I’m going for when I post. Thank you!

[@DEATH_TO_TYRANTS]

@@bluegunner4719 No, thank you! Do you remember me bringing up the one video of yours that is not accessible? I'm such a fan of your channel, that when I accidentally found your hidden video I got stressed out thinking there a bunch of videos I couldn't see 🤣 If you get on a desktop instead of mobile, you should be able to reformat your channel to make all your videos accessible. Would you be ok with me showing 30 seconds of one of your videos? Nothing fishy. I just want to get the few amigos I've got here to come check you out. I can keep the video private until you watch it.

[@bluegunner4719]

I do. Thanks for the reminder! I’ll mess with it today. And yeah go ahead! I just share these videos for fun anyhow

[@DEATH_TO_TYRANTS]

@@bluegunner4719 Right on amigo! My channel has always been more used as a tool than a platform to make content. That being said I've got a few great guys that stop by, and I know they'll love your channel. You'll see a couple of them in the next day or so. Cheers!

[@Ben-lo7cy]

Nice one👍🏼 I’m currently building a 12.5 myself but I’m very indecisive on the barrel. Have a spikes lower built pretty standard with an geissele ssae trigger. Planned on using a geissele mk13 rail so don’t want a complete upper but might just give in and buy bcm complete upper

[@bluegunner4719]

BCM sells uppers without rails on their website. That way you can add your own later on

[@birdwk]

for 12.5" I would look closely at Criterion Hybrid or Core series and Centurion Arms barrels. You will get amazing accuracy AND longevity.

[@Ben-lo7cy]

jiggaky cool I’ll look into it. I really prefer to use my own hand rail

[@KaneGregory]

Love trijicon 1-6 triangle post fast and easy to hit shit out to 400 meters!🤯🔫💣

[@mandymorgan3094]

Nice pistol all the cool guy stuff. BCM, Lancer, Radian, Geissile, Trijicon, and even mounted forward grip backwards. Sweet!

[@jzaden10]

Yes that is a single stage trigger and it does sound nice and crisp, I just started looking into getting the mk2 complete upper in 11.5" with the qrf handguard. Nice pistol

[@bluegunner4719]

Thanks man! 11.5 pistols make sweet setups. Good luck on your build!

[@ReynaR713]

Can you run that bcm grip on the pistol just wondering 💭 i just did this hopefully its all good

[@tradethefutures]

My set up is almost the same, 81.3% same. I added an H2 buffer, SME muzle device and a new 17-7 sping. Made a world of a deference in recoil, shoots flat, not nearly as snappy as it was.

[@Legionnaire.darcfour]

Wow. I love these reviews. Subscribed

[@kennethbranamensr1759]

Simply OUTSTANDING ! Thank you .

[@C720L]

Great video! Nice build!

[@rascalmatt6713]

When shooting standing, unsupported, light triggers become more and more important. I would never run a milspec trigger in an AR pistol. That includes the BCM PNT and the ALG ACT. If you want to hit quickly and accurately while standing, get something 3.5lbs or lighter. However, you have given me an idea for my 12.5 BCM AR pistol. I have a green MRO. It's horrible. The battery life alone should rule it out of anyone's list. I may have to finally get an accupoint. I think it's appropriate for the 12.5" and shorter pistols.

[@FirearmHobbyist]

I am interested in the buffer weight and spring as i am assembling a 12.5 carbine myself. Thank you

[@bluegunner4719]

I currently have the Geissele super 42 spring with an H2 buffer weight. The recoil impulse feels good, but I haven’t paid too close attention to my ejection pattern. I’ll take it out again for a closer look soon. 0 reliability issues suppressed or Unsuppressed with the H2 tho

[@FirearmHobbyist]

@@bluegunner4719 thanks I appreciate it.

[@sourpatchcx]

Wait doesn’t that grip make it a rifle instead of a pistol?

[@XtremeAdventures671]

Isnt the measurement to be taken with the brace off from the end of the receiver extension to the muzzle end of barrel as the brace serves no function of the firearm? What is the length from the end of the receiver extension with the sba4 brace removed?

[@bluegunner4719]

You are correct. But the brace is close to flush with the extension with it fully collapsed. I haven’t measured without the brace off, but I doubt it will bring it below the minimum 26”. Either way, my grip isn’t quite vertical so I’m not too worried.

[@jzaden10]

Are you sure that isnt a vertical grip? That is the reason I only put angle grip on my 300 blk. Sorry but it looks like a vertical grip to me I'm sure you are right.

[@bluegunner4719]

J. Rodriguez it’s not at a 90 degree angle so it isn’t a “vertical” grip. Just an angled one. Mrgunsngear has a really good video on his page about when you can use one

[@jzaden10]

@@bluegunner4719 ok cool I'm sitting here watching your videos? You nice firearms I just got into the ar collection about a year and half ago good job man👍

[@JoeyB44]

Does it fit in that bag and u should put an offset red dot on this

[@mikekillin471]

I wish I could put 1 together like that is that a mid gas system good job

[@pcp8989]

Try Rosco Sage Dynamics K9 12.5 barrel, with Patrol length gas system. Measures between carbine and mid-length.

[@maddmaxx9819]

Cool set-up. Needs more rattle can.

[@Whitehawkvisionfilms]

I am very interested in accuracy at 100yd with Milspec ammo (M193/M855) and with any ammo that the rifle loves. I am also interested in what it can do at 400, 500, 600 yds. How is the recoil impulse on a 12.5 with a 7" gas system? How do you like the BCM?

[@moore4615]

Nice rifle, pistol man. Cheers!

[@Jason.123rson]

I have the same gun. What size groups are you shooting past 100yds with scope. Im trying the MRO currently.

[@MegaMastiffman]

Nice job man very well done keep making videos on this it’s good stuff

[@bluegunner4719]

Thank you, I will! Got a few more planned in the next week or two

[@dougmohn1182]

I have a BCM 11 pistol and I'm having issues with 223 ammo reloads, 2 jambs. This gun is a 5.56 but should have no problems with 223, thoughts?

[@107gamma]

It sounds like those reloads or some are out of spec. I had this issue with my build thinking something was wrong with it. Until my gunsmith and I Measure the actual casings. The barrel head space was fine. I found out even manufactured ammo is not all to extract spec.

[@shaneeastering9417]

You should consider running a spare bolt in your BCM pistol grip....Bolts like to fail here and there.

[@zodiacthriller6094]

I keep reeses pieces in mine

[@bruceb9515]

You have a vertical foregrip I see. I thought that is only legal if it's tax stamped as an SBR? I thought it was a no go for pistols?

[@Torred717]

According to the atf “vertical” isn’t defined. It just cannot be 90 degrees. This one is GTG

[@bruceb9515]

@@Torred717 thanks! That's good to know.

[@gummybear41283]

how come you always buy AR pistols? do you have any SBR's or 16 inch AR's?

[@pauloramirez8216]

I have a question that maybe you can answer. I am interested in purchasing one today before I add it to the cart this is what it is saying "Flash Hider A2 - Non-pinned - NFA Rules Apply" Am I still able to purchase it and get it delivered to my local licensed firearms dealer? I understand that this is bellow 16 inches making it an SBR but I want to make an AR pistol somewhat like yours, I am just a bit confused to what the whole NFA rules apply, will I have to pay the tax stamp in order to take it home with me? even worse wait?

[@bluegunner4719]

Paulo Ramirez are you just trying to buy the upper? You can buy any upper and ship it directly to your house at least in my state (NC). The whole “NFA rules apply” is just letting you know that you must attach the upper to a pistol lower or registered SBR lower

[@pauloramirez8216]

Blue Gunner I want to buy the upper and bolt carrier group. I live in Florida.

[@bluegunner4719]

Paulo Ramirez yeah you should be fine. But I always recommend calling your local FFL. They would know more.

[@pauloramirez8216]

Blue Gunner I’ll do that, thank you! I’ll also give BCM a call tomorrow. By the way how’s your build so far? I noticed that BCM did not have the 12.5 cold hammer forged. Do you think this will make a big difference? I want this upcoming build to be my workhorse if SHTF I want it to last for a very long time.

[@Prez3D]

Awesome setup. Quick question: any reason you wne with the 12.5" than the BHF 11.5"? Would you use an adjustable gas block to mitigate the overgassing and an improved buffer? I'm looking at building my first suppressed BCM pistol and I'm looking for some pointers. Cheers brother :)

[@HanginWithTy]

That's a nice setup you got there boss, how's it looking now??

[@coachgrandpathesilentwarri5505]

OMG I love that weapon, I am worried on your definition with the vertical grip, expect ill informed individuals like range masters and many public officials to complain. If I were you I would use a kag hand stop. I need to get one of these Bravo Company pistol, beautiful weapon thanks for sharing.

[@MF-Rell]

It's over 26 inches.

[@seanwhite304]

Mine is identical minus 3 things . I'm using Criterion Hybrid Chrome Lined barrel and TR24R.

[@bluegunner4719]

Nice! How do you like your TR24?

[@seanwhite304]

@@bluegunner4719 It's my favorite LPVO. I have 2 of them. The red definitely works better for my eyes . I had green triangle and didn't like it . Luckily I was able to swap it out for the red . Trijicon Accupoint , and ACOG are my go too

[@robert.bouncersofportlandh5069]

You might of mentioned it...but i didnt catch it ...so whats the total cost minus the scope and flashlight? Great vid by the way!

[@bluegunner4719]

Without the light and optic I’d say the rest of the package I have put together would run between $1400-1500 depending where you bought the stuff. Thanks for watching!

[@Civiliansoldier762]

Awesome setup! Great choice in parts. This pistol will definitely serve you well my friend. I recently through together an 11.5”

[@bluegunner4719]

Thank you! I hope your 11.5 also treats you well

[@functioningbroken3497]

Upgrade your offset irons to a red dot. Nice rifle

[@hungarianhillbilly4144]

That is a very sweet pistol build.

[@bluegunner4719]

Thank you!

[@briansamaniego-howard1806]

Video is done very well with knowledgeable commentating

[@bluegunner4719]

Thank you!

[@mmitch8236]

Nice pistol. My next gun will be a bcm 11.5 pistol. I would run a different scope on that pistol cause your scope would look better with a 16" barrel. I would put a aimpoint or eotech

[@bluegunner4719]

And we all know, looking cool matters. Seriously though, 11.5’s make great red dot hosts. Aimpoint or eotech would be great

[@maddmike7964]

You like that light mount sticking out so far?🤔

[@bluegunner4719]

I haven’t had a chance to run and gun with this set up yet, but in static shooting it’s worked fine. Definitely plan to put it through a class one day so I can give a better opinion

[@brysonw1815]

Does the BCM bcg work out the box on an ar under 14.5”? Heard you had to change out something on the bolt If it’s under that

[@bluegunner4719]

Absolutely. It’s just a standard BCG. Nothing crazy going on. They just do a good job putting it together.

[@maddmike7964]

Simple and sweet setup. Nice👍🏾

[@bluegunner4719]

Thank you for watching!

[@ccadiz01]

Great build, I have something similar but not comfortable adding a LPVO due to intent of shouldering the weapon.

[@mixflipextra]

That's a good lookin pistol

[@GlocKGanG]

What kind of buffer weight and spring are you running

[@bluegunner4719]

I recently upgraded it to a Geissele super 42 spring and buffer with an H2 weight. It smoothed things out nicely

[@robsnizzle79]

Rifle LOOKS GOOD, not exactly the way I'D run my iron sights, but then it's NOT MY RIFLE and everyone has their own way/idea to run their own SEED SENDER. Quality rifle setup though.🤙

[@walterlangkowski4723]

I need to know where you read that so I can print it out and carry it on me and put a gunfighter grip on my AR pistol. Also research surefire 3 prong they PING like no other

[@josephcuison5412]

That is one boutique rifle with top shelf accessories. Must be worth a fortune. Congratulations

[@SA-xf1eb]

Wish they would upgrade the gas system to a midlenght gas tube instead if carbine lenght.

[@nicholasanderson233]

Not enough dwell time on a 12.5 for a mid length gas system. Yes some people make it but that is why the big name companies do not.

[@JohnBlaze505]

Nice build bro, 12.5 carbines are the bee's knees.

[@bluegunner4719]

Thank you, I’ve really been enjoying this one so far

[@911couple5]

Also want the bag video

[@bluegunner4719]

You got it! I have at least 1 video planned before that, but I’ll put it on the list!

[@timgawenda4486]

Great vid man. How do you like the Trijicon so far?

[@bluegunner4719]

Thanks! Unfortunately I haven’t been able to push out the trijicon too far yet. Hoping to find a good outdoor range after quarantine. But it seems solid for the short range stuff I’ve done so far!

[@FldigzFLdigz]

Looks clean. What was you total build cost?

[@ZOMBIETACT]

Nice build! What kind of bag do you have in the background?

[@ZOMBIETACT]

Never mind lol

[@bluegunner4719]

Thanks! You’re good man. I kinda talk about it in its own video on my channel

[@Deuce_Dufresne]

That’s my favorite scope, I have the same one.

[@typhoonKaiz07]

Only thing you need is a WPS Rifle Sling!!! Great set up though.

[@valvaliant4433]

I'm confused, that bcm mod 3 makes it an sbr doesn't it?

[@clapzy2943]

If the overall length is over 26" then you can use a forward grip. From buffer tube to end of barrel(not muzzle device) this is just at 26

[@thyrichie7329]

Where can I find that Magpul angled grip I’ve been looking but can’t find it

[@bluegunner4719]

Thy Richie I actually misspoke. It’s a BCM mod 3 vertical grip. It is angled. I get it confused with magpul every time

[@agudelo50]

It is NOT an angled grip. It is classified and listed as a VERTICAL foregrip fyi

[@TriggaTrey361]

@@agudelo50 yes but it’s not 90 degrees so it’s technically angled

[@Nontacticalboy]

Love your vids man, just subbed

[@huskerdevil24]

What is the total cost on this bad boy?

[@kaweka260]

ATF guideline defines a VFG as one being at 90 degree angle. The slant VFG made by BCM is not 90 degrees. Take that for what it’s worth.

[@champy1210]

"For your information, Federal law currently does not define 'vertical foregrip.' However[,] the ATF has determined that a grip of this type is distinguished by being both forward of the magazine well and oriented at a perpendicular (90[-]degree) angle to the bore of the weapon. The relative position of the grip around the weapon's bore would not change this determination." FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, PEOPLE, DO NOT WRITE THE REDCOATS!!!

[@kaweka260]

champy1210 Better to arm each other with info than live in darkness under the ATF. Even MrGunsnGear mentioned the same thing and also TRex Arms.

[@Civiliansoldier762]

It’s a 12.5” build and doesn’t have a folding brace he can run whatever vfg he wants. It would be a “firearm” under atf guidelines. Like the above comment stated for the love of God people stop writing the ATF for “opinion” letters

[@champy1210]

David White Agreed. I saw both. People should not write the tyrants, though. Inquiries-if any-should through *competent* 2A-industry attorneys, like Adam Kraut, Josh Prince, et al.

[@kaweka260]

Civiliansoldier762 Uh, who’s writing the ATF for “opinion letters”???

[@raydon14ify]

Awesome set up

[@MannyScoot]

If you ever need a BCM go with a Nickel Boron WMD ...... I got mine 2 years ago and it has over 40K rounds of 7.62x39......I shoot it 500 to 1,000 rounds every 2 weeks .....

[@kevinb1060]

Pistol or SBR?

[@Mr1gun]

Can you put a VFG on a ar pistol. No preaching just asking.

[@Sauce8451]

No but you can put an AFG

[@Mr1gun]

@@Sauce8451 in the video he has a VFG, I'm guessing the pistol has a OAL over 26", which is ok...I think

[@hawkins71]

I really wanted to move to a 12.5” but I could not justify the cost when I have a perfectly good running BCM 11.5”...

[@bluegunner4719]

Totally understandable. Wallet comes first!

[@mikebrockway6099]

12.5” will likely make oal >26”. Too long for a pistol if planning for CC where I live.

[@doctorsorder414]

I love your setup. I want one.

[@BRONXDEVILDOG]

I respect your build. Too much going on there for me though. But keep on doing what you're doing. We need more 2A pro folks.

[@James_Edward59]

It’s literally a super great but basic setup, there’s not much going on at all. One optic, some offset backup irons and a light, that’s not much at all. If this is a lot going on, you’d be amazed how much stuff you have to put on a rifle when you are running Night Vision.

[@paulhughes3961]

Very nice build.

[@bluegunner4719]

Thank you!

[@generalarmamentcompany]

If OAL is 26 inches or greater and barrel is under 16 inches with no stock its not a pistol, its just a firearm

[@kimboyonkers]

Nice build 🇺🇸

[@jackbl64]

Nice pistol 👍🏿