BDMNTN-XL - A New, Exciting & Innovative Concept

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Missed the BDMNTN-XL tournament and want to watch all the action? Then you can, right here - kzbin.info/door/1ICtsqkTVxHm7L21ONQy7A Enjoy! Ben p.s - I am aware of the glare, I thought it was a lighting issue but might be a camera issue. Will get it fixed asap 👍

[@austintbc2935]

super refreshing to watch. new player combinations, unique playing style, and most importantly their interactions with each other under a less stressful condition. just brings so much life into this event. just purely from the interactions between top players made it a much better event. so fun to see the other sides of player, their cheekiness and playfulness. this is something the badminton fans have never thought they needed but when served they definitely wants more of it now

[@ISMSKL]

I watched the whole tournament and absolutely enjoyed it! I also agree with all the points you mentioned. Hope Badminton XL comes back bigger and better next time. One of the unique thing that we got from BadmintonXL and won't get anywhere else is a match between Kunlavut and Kodai that lasted only 40 minutes! Unbelievable! 😂

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

hahahaha too true

[@Hazim_47]

Hi Ben! I would like to Thank You for bringing my love for badminton back I used to like badminton but from 2016 onwards there wasn't even a single badminton match that I watched just the result of Olympics in between nothing more until 3/4 months back out of absolutely nowhere your Kento Momota video came on my feed absolutely loved that video since then my love for the sport slowly came back now even when I can't watch I make sure that I follow scores on the BWF app every tournament..Keep up the good work and your channel is absolutely brilliant🙌Keep'em coming❤

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Wow! I'm speechless. Thank you and welcome back to badminton. I hope the love never dies again

[@jasonyuchenliu]

This event was definitely fun and different from the usual tournaments. On top of all those super stars at the event, if they can get Gill and Ben to commentate, that would be the cherry on top! Great video Ben!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

To be put together with Gill like that...I'll take it

[@lisac8073]

Absolutely agree with your opinions. I am in Australia and wasn't aware of this event until the 2nd or 3rd day of play. Totally enjoyed watching not just because it was star studded but everyone looked so happy. 3v3 was definitely the highlight for me too. And yes they definitely need a new commentator 😂 Hope you get the job next year!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

😊🙌🏻👊🏻

[@MAHAPURE1]

United by passion, smashing boundaries together! 😍

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

❤️

[@BlazingiZZi]

Loved it! When the players are not so stressed, the trick shot they displayed is absolutely amazingg

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

yeah, there was some great ones in this event

[@wildactm1]

Thanks for the video. Agree that the marketing was poorly done. I had no idea what it was until it started. No idea what were the rules. Overall it looked fun. But lots of room for improvement. Hope they get better and better in the coming years.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yeah plenty of room for improvement, but I still enjoyed it, so if it improves and innovates further (with better marketing) it would be really good

[@domifitrian7572]

STRIKE-ly agree with you Ben, I fully entertained with the tournament but definitely need more improvement in next event. We need you as commentator.. It will be more STRIKE..😂

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I will strike everyone's emotions with my beautiful words...

[@nisaam1926]

From what I see, they key to win the event is to have versatile and strong MD players in the group. Hurricane has Aaron Chia and Blitzers has Seo Seung-jae. They both played full time except for the 3rd day where they faced each other before the finals. It wasn't obvious at the start when you only see big names (some of them are past their peak tho). For example Lee Yong-dae (he's past his prime) or Yuta Watanabe (who played MD in the past but didn't really match with Soh Wooi Yik nor Tang Chun Man). Strategy is also quite important in the final. The Blitzers did really well in the final by pairing Alexandra Boje and Pornpawee Chochuwong instead of Toh Ee Wei in the WD to maximize their chances in winning the 3v3. I think the difficulty matches the reward. Aaron Chia said it's tiring (no kidding he and Seo played 2x40 minutes almost everyday) but fun and seeing how happy the Blitzers when they won it shows how happy they are that their hard work pays off.

[@ipadpro8527]

This is fast becoming one of my favorite series

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

😊🙌🏻 glad ur enjoying it

[@sharreb1805]

Weird it wasnt promoted more given that so many great players participated. It was definitely different from any badminton tournament. The highlight was seeing the many happy faces from the players.

[@chenfirdcheng]

First I heard of it was when I saw Axelsen training with Watanabe in a clip he posted. I'm UK based. Crazy the lack of marketing for such a big event.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yeah I stumbled on it by complete accident

[@Badmintonsciencepodcast]

Great video as always! Will be great for the sport with new and exciting formats of competition. What I absolutely love and where I see great potential is in the possibility to build a brand of the league, but more importantly of the teams. One problem badminton will always suffer from is that if you're a fan of a player, you can only cheer them on for so long. I had a few years after the Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei era where I fell away from the sport because they were the players I followed and when they retired there wasn't anyone I followed for a while. In football you cheer for a team and people cheer for clubs like Manchester United, Juventus or their local club their whole life, but in badminton there has not been possible except for rooting for your nation. I think that if everything is going right then there could be fans of te Blitzers no matter who plays on the team. And if that doesn't happen there could be more fan interactions in regards to putting together pairs that we want to see. Imagine a few years ago seeing Kevin Sukamuljo and Goh V Shem playing together and being able to vote for which players should play doubles and/or 3v3 together. No matter what happens there's great that such a new format is tested and that hopefully will continue.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

That's a good idea although I felt the PBL was developing that quite nicely before Covid hit. I have heard it could return next year...

[@Badmintonsciencepodcast]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton Let's hope so!

[@nisaam1926]

Let's have Ben as the commentator until they can hire Gill lol

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

oh thanks, I'm just a filler hahaha...I'll take it

[@BDA1137]

Better marketing is right. Not even a website. What?! And it's not just Europe. Here in South East Asia many of us didn't even know this was on until it was over

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Crazy! I didn't want to assume it was bad in Asia as there was next to nothing in Europe. But that's crazy to hear

[@fruitaleman]

I concur with this. I’m from Malaysia, and I have not heard about it until I saw pictures of the prize giving ceremony.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@fruitaleman that's just crazy!

[@abassadamu8014]

This was very interesting and 3v3 really made it even more exciting and it should be extended all around the world we need it to happen around African nations too 🙏

[@KabirVirat]

Hi Ben!🎉🎉 You are my favorite youtuber, and you motivated me to start my own badminton channel, and post tournament vlogs. Jeep creating amazing content!!🎉🎉❤

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

wow! this is amazing, I'm happy I inspired you to start your own channel. I'll be sure to go check it out at some point :)

[@ShawnLallJD]

23:23 when I first saw this event I thought it was about playing badminton in XL shirts because of the shirt sizes and the name

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Hahaha, maybe that was its real meaning

[@miguelflorentino2192]

There's also something I once tried and would probably be entertaining here, which is the following: there's 4 players in the court but they are both playing "singles" at half court simultaniously (with two shuttles) and as soon as one player scores a point (one of the shuttles is no longer in play) they transition to a normal doubles game at full court without stopping. It would also be very fun to see singles players playing doubles and vice versa

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Oh wow, that would be mayhem during that transition haha

[@markeb1312]

Really nice to have this type of event for badminton. Imo I feel like this opens things up for possibly having the players be able to take more breaks during tours, and have pairs who have lost do these type of team events to prolong and have a longer badminton event to provide even better engagement and get the pros paid more

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

yes!

[@brianngiam9283]

Retired player, Goh Liu Ying did organised a 3v3 tournament in M'sia for the publuc. If Im not wrong, it was the 2nd year now.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

That's awesome. So cool

[@yurimakaka525]

One thing that really dissapointed is only the spectatorsss. So many empty seat with top player included is kinda ironic

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

it was sad to see the clips with the arena so empty

[@ivanbenyaminmarpaung7516]

Nice video ben... love it! Here's my thought: 1. I think it's a bit dissapointing that they already announced on their social media that Fajar, Gregoria, Jonatan will be participating in this event but eventually they withdrawn. I have a strong believe this have correlation with PBSI which they not giving a permission for their players, so they can maximize their time to pratice for Kumamoto-China Masters. I saw a few comments of fans decided to resell their tickets because those names were withdrawn. So, the organizers should have made all things clear up since the beginning to make sure the players can participate. Despite that, i personally watch it online and still satisfied with Yeo, Gutama, and Lee Cheuk as replacement because it's still entertaining. 2. It's pity that there is no chinese players on this event because of course they have many top players. CBA probably have strict rules to not allowed their athletes to join this event. 3. Yup, the kit clearly not appetizing to see. They definitely should improve this one. 4. I hope this won't be an one-time event, also if the next event comes it doesn't necessarily being held in Istora. It can be held in country like Malaysia because they have many badminton fans too. 5. Tickets pricing is too high because this is the first event, not widely known by many badminton fans even until the first day. But for Indonesia specifically, theres also some factor such as less badminton achievement since last year compared to 2022-Previous COVID, also the buying power of Indonesia is not really good since last year. That's also the explanation of significantly decreasing spectator of Indonesia Masters-Indonesia Open.

[@jimmychengjitming6953]

Agree with you on all the point for improvement. And yes I'm seriously hoping organiser were to approach you as the commentator, pains the ear to hear 'strike'. Hahaha

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

If I become the commentator I'll be sure to use strike as often as I can 😂

[@xvvxvvxvvx4804]

I’d always like to see the top singles guys play doubles or the other way round. Could be an interesting one that in one match, your singles player must play in a doubles match. Or one of your doubles players has to play a singles match. Might be tricky that way with doubles players not used to singles movement but would certainly be fun to watch.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

that's a fun idea! I remember LYD playing Peter Gade at singles and I thoroughly enjoyed it. He held his own although Gade was toying with him at times haha

[@rishavdevrani8219]

omg!! They absolutely need to a better job at promoting it! as an avid badminton fan (from India), I'm hearing about it here for the first time (however, i haven't been using social media). There's honestly, a huge market for such leagues! looking forward to a second season eagerly!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yeah they really do. Hopefully next year it'll be bigger and better 😊

[@lauralee1961]

3V3 the most i like. very entertaining n fun. For the first time seeing the players play without any burden, and for the first time seeing them lose but still entertain. Hopefully this event will still be held❤. Yupz..u should be the commentators 😊

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Thanks and agree 😊

[@lauralee1961]

@ Do we badminton fans need to hold a vote to get you appointed as a commentator?hehe…😃☺️

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@lauralee1961 I'd probably lose that vote 😅

[@lauralee1961]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton Haha..I don’t think so. Let’s see the magic,the power of badminton lovers ☺️

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@lauralee1961 full power ahead 👊🏻♥️

[@MikaelDelaporte]

Thanks a lot for your video and your comments. It was really fun and pleasant to see players with different partners. It's obvious that players have fun to play (like in childhood), probably because it's out of ranking race . 3vs3 was fun but not sure that I want to see it more frequently. I think we previously watched this team championship (with mixed players) in Malaysia and India, and the set in 11 points has been tested... that was awfull to watch. I just hope that the principle of set at fixed time will not become the rule, I am not a big fan of it

[@soulreplenished]

have the athletes themselves commentate as guests! would love to listen in on our favorite players talking loosely instead of the usual question-answer interview style

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

That's a pretty solid idea I'm not gonna lie. I'd love to hear the players miced up when supporting or on court. Could be really fun to hear

[@djstr0b3]

Seeing Lee Yong Dae after a long time is so refreshing

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

it was great to see him back on court, enjoying it!

[@mmj1327]

I just hope they will do it again next year. With better advertisement. Probably another new set of rules like instead of 10 minutes, go for 8 minutes with a stop every time point given, every mopping moment, every shuttle change, the timer must stop. And I really wanted to see their teammates reaction too actually. Sometimes they sat at the sides but couldn’t get their reaction when a great rally happened. Probably could make a live on their team area too through YT or FB. Just my thoughts tho. Other than that I’m enjoying it so much. 😂 I still can’t move on from it. I still go and watch some matches on SPOTV ASIA

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Some great ideas there

[@abby7789]

Yeah and going back to play on regular court must’ve feel like going to work on monday after having a fun weekend 😂😂

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

🤣 true that

[@thefallenarm589]

Totally missed the event, didn't heard of it before this video 🤣 and didn't understand why VA said he had a match at 5 P.M when he was streaming from Indonesia Seems players that complain of having too much tournament in the year due to BWF rules are having fun in an extra-event... little recreation Actually, I heard some players are really enjoying in training rooms in tournaments, I heard at a tournament here, they did some 4v4 using 2 courts at the same time 😅

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

oh backstage there is all sorts going on. A team mate of mine, a doubles player, used to challenge all the top singles players to 3 points. If he won he would never let them hear the end of it haha

[@thefallenarm589]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton 😂

[@joaorobalo7594]

I don't have instagram... so I only found out about it when Viktor started posting some stuff on his youtube channel. Kinda sucks that they did no advertisement outside of instagram, at least that I saw.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yeah it is pretty incredible they didn't do this. Especially for an event with so much backing and a big number of the worlds best playing

[@astrobois2883]

I'd love to see you to be the commentator for the next bdmntn xl event actually!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Thanks for the support 👍🏻👊🏻

[@keegansimyh]

One other thing is the lack of instant review (obviously with the time stopped). Agree with the rest of your suggestions, especially with the marketing.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

yeah stopping time could enable that for sure. Yeah the marketing let the team down

[@DWELDan]

Yeah, bit of a shame with the marketing. Missed opportunity to elevate badminton on the stage. It was nice to see LYD back in action. Wonder if they could do the same with some of the other legends like LD, LCW, PG and TH. Momota too perhaps? Ben to be the next Gill Clark!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Next Gill Clark...you flatter me. Yeah I thought so too, they all seem in good enough shape to take to the courts. Who wouldn't love another LD vs LCW showdown, even if they are way past their best just that alone would draw in numbers

[@fth2780]

Didn't know this stuff existed after it ended tbh

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

link in description to where you can go watch all the action

[@docpepega7784]

I really loved the different mix up of players and especially 3v3. It would also be fun if every player on the team has to play on 3v3 since it has the biggest point, so there's gonna be more strategizing involved like putting certain group of players against their opponents, everyone needs to be able to compensate each others strength and weaknesses. I was really looking forward to seeing the singles players playing in a team as well.. but unfortunately that didn't happen too much in this event But overall it was great 👏👏, just need better marketing and more fans 😅

[@ongkimchoon7383]

Malaysia had their Purple Cup years ago. I believe that time, they did not have a 3v3 match.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yeah purple league was good, PBL was massive, and there's been other pop up leagues but all were much more classic badminton

[@samueloctaaji192]

What I like about this is: - Team format (Thomas/Uber/Sudirman is a little bit predictable). - Fun mixed-up/scratch pairing - High entertainment value All things aside, how about using this format in europe (a lot of european players are fluent in english so they can communicate better)?

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yeah but let's be honest, the vast majority of the best players are in Asia

[@littleman787]

Is there a piece of plastic between you and the cam? Reflection?

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I think there's some damage to my cam. Needs to be fixed, will try and do it soon

[@thewongfactory1577]

They could play 3v3 with similar rotation system to volleyball.

[@myqueena2692]

The only tournament where i can watch badminton peacefully ..no stomach ache, no heart attack. too bad they dont provide clap balloon for spectators

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

hahaha I feel u there

[@nomad.wedding]

I found about about this from your Instagram story. I guess they had zero budget for matketing and put all the funds towards having the plauers come.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

that's a possibility!

[@TuanAnhLe-wn7gk]

If only they put single players play doubles and vice versa. That'd make it even better

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

would be interesting. We did see it on a smaller scale.

[@wongwendy4325]

I watched the tournament because there were quite a number of Malaysians playing. And I loved 3 vs 3 . Toh Ee Wei was truly having fun. And please change the commentator… definitely no strike allowed on court.

[@hentiboi604]

I would have loved to watch this, but I didn't get to know. This makes me so sad.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I have put the link to all the matches in the description - can still go check it out

[@hentiboi604]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton Thanks

[@alehas5223]

My only issue with the 10-minute rule is when the score gap is too wide. It feels a bit draggy and makes the match less exciting. Maybe they need to set some kind of gap limit? or introduce new stakes to keep it more thrilling.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Agree...a wide gap is something unavoidable in high scoring sports but I agree, there should be some thought going into how to minimise this situation or use it to the tournaments advantage

[@thefallenarm589]

Just wondering, how is this funded ?

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

the organisers probably put their own money forward plus sponsorship from the companies involved. There were some big names

[@ninomojo]

Can we please not call them “3v3 doubles”? The only thing that’s doubled there is the number 3 since there are six people on court. Let’s call them 3v3s or Triples! I refuse to use the phrase “3v3 doubles” and you should too! ✊

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

This is a fair point! 3vs3 doubles is a bit of a misnomer. Triples is nice! I'm with you...I've changed 👊🏻

[@iammeow9947]

Maybe next time invite ben to be player in bdmtn xl 😄 Or maybe as commentator..

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I think I'll leave the playing to the pros...I'd last all of about 1 rally 😅

[@freemanol]

I'm not sure if there's a suitable term in english, the closest I can think of is "cheesy". Indonesians embraces cheesy-iness, often too much IMHO, borderline silly. But beggars can't be choosers, badminton really needs more fans, so the more the merrier, I guess.

[@TheAkischa]

I loooooved the commentary. It fit the fun vibe of the event. Let's not change that. ❤

[@mln7297]

You're joking right? 😂

[@TheAkischa]

Nope. Not at all 😁

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

STRIIIIIIIKE

[@TheAkischa]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton hahhahahah EXACTLY 🙂 There have been moments where I seriously LMAO about their commentary. Especially when they commented on stuff like how bad a service return was, etc

[@mln7297]

@@BenBeckmanBadminton "The shuttlecock DID NOT cross the net" is still ringing in my ear!!

[@phillipkrokor7092]

tbh I don't see a future for 3vs3. To me it becomes boring very fast as it's mostly drives and far less building the rallys. What I realy enjoyed was the mixup of different nations

[@phillipkrokor7092]

Also I really hope the time based scoring system doesn't become standard

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

it won't! Only for this event

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

I felt 3vs3 was just like MD but ramped up! How they rotated around each other was mesmerising. I do see your point though. Yeah I really enjoyed the mix up of different nations too

[@serenekho7030]

BEN BECKMAN FOR COMMENTATOR FOR BDMNTN-XL 2025!!!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

🙌🏻♥️

[@Andy_001_]

Why don't they just call it Triples rather than 3 v 3 Doubles? 🤔

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

They should, and I should

[@AlbertCh_96]

IS IT JUST ME OR IS THERE SOME KIND OF TROLL WHO CHANGED ALL THE “BADMINTON” WORDS IN THE CAPTION TO BE BABINGTON OR BAPTON OR BIN OR BARINGTON OR ANYTHING ASIDE THE ACTUAL WORD BADMINTON????

[@qiusyah]

They should have introduced the VAR system first rather than the faster-pace trio vs trio.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Nah 3v3 is better 🤣 no need for VAR at this event

[@danielkemp1421]

First hehe

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

well done :)

[@broskiyt12]

please please please dont bring that commentator ever again

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

haha...me instead?

[@broskiyt12]

@BenBeckmanBadminton of course 100% mannn thats not even a valid question 😭😭😭😭😭

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

@@broskiyt12 😅😅👍🏻

[@DmitriPakhomov]

Just a show, barely any competition. Never watched any All-star games in other sports, this wouldn't be an exception. Also when singles can bring only one point while winning this fancy and messy 3v3 gives 3 points - it hurts... Just IMHO.

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Singles and doubles could bring 1 or 2 points. But I understand why u don't like this sort of thing. It isn't for everyone

[@jackburtonstwin]

Something like 3 vs 3, timed game and something like zonal scoring is reminiscent of the techniques and games I used as a coach with junior county players back in the day. It was both fiercely competitive, a valuable learning tool and exciting for the players and I am sure part of the fun of this event for the players would have been the call back to their formative years as players (as I was hardly unique in using these games to break up the sometimes rather dry nature of coaching performance sport). I see no reason why an event like this cannot compliment the BWF circuit, entertain the fans and give the players a break from the grind of having to be at peak performance/delivery all season. In the race for success it can be easy to lose sight of the fact that badminton is also great fun, too.

[@voodoo7311]

I agree with pretty much all of your points. It was very exciting to watch, especially the 3v3. Hope more of these to come!

[@BenBeckmanBadminton]

Yeah I hope so too