Damage multipliers are generally more important than direct Agility. Teimos's ranged multiplier is 0.672. Berzerker's is 1.04. I don't know if Teimos comes out on top based on those multipliers, unless you can show the damage numbers.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
yes but everything will not be the dmg multiplier you need to see them in action then you will realise if you give a bow to a berserker he will do nothing but a beastmaster will not miss
@OBPRafaelSantos Жыл бұрын
you can drag treasure seekers out of the wine cellar, and teleport them with sorcery teleporter anywhere to get them converted, lot easier and faster
@darkcat.gaming Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's also a good idea nice 👍😅
@Edramon532 жыл бұрын
Have you actually tested any of this with a mod that lets you see the actual damage done in combat? The stats you see on the thrall don't matter as much as the ones you can't see without using the console. Teimos' damage multiplier for ranged (according to Wak4863, but it's easy enough to check on PC) was nerfed from 2.1 to 0.6, which should make him a garbage archer no matter how good you roll on agility stat. Just checked a couple RHTS, Fighter has 1.032 and Archer has 0.96 ranged modifier.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
Yes but do u see any better archer on exile land beside this 3 ?
@andrxmedaxxxx36652 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming you pretty much show all the best archers lol Nerd stats don't matter just take good care of your thralls and they will deliver I have more then 135 thralls at my base mix with relic, bearers and berserkers is impossible to kill them I got raided ones and base was destroy but thralls were all there and guy was murder by them and lose all my stuff Noone win 😆 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆
@andrxmedaxxxx36652 жыл бұрын
Edramon Also you gotta understand that a thrall damage to a player is way different the damage to an npc a well train and max out a top tier thrall will be a big advantage in the fight as long as you are alive Coz they can just get cheese 😆 with out you
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@andrxmedaxxxx3665 agree on that 👍
@lahu762 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming Considering the DamageModifierRanged is 0.62 which makes him on par with ANY T3 fighter from Sepermaru (0.66), and behind T4 dancers like Luba (0.8). Considering a weapon attack that should strike for 100hp is going to do 62, even with 50% agility boost it's going to become 93. So less than any "out of stock" RHTS archer (0.96 multiplier) even if they had 0 in agility, far less than Fighters (1.0x multiplier) - yea for some strange reason "fighters" are better "archers" than archers.
@zazoreal55362 жыл бұрын
Commanding Presence is way better than people think too. If you are actively fighting with daggers and getting in a lot of hits. You can easily save a thrall from dying in a hard boss fight. 100 hits times 6hp regen is 600hp. that 600hp can be the difference between your thrall dying or not. You can just heal your thralls with potions outside of a fight....way better.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
Ye it depend how if your game play if u can do dagger dps dmg yourthrall gonna heal a lot and it can be game changing
@bigmunyjoe2 жыл бұрын
This is bad information, you’re basing information on agility stats, but there is a hidden stat for melee and ranged that has more impact … maybe learn how to find the hidden stats in ranged and melee and you will see beastmaster is trash … health is not everything … beastmasters ranged damaged modifier is like .74 and relic hunter is like 1.0118 that means the relic hunter with everything the same gets over 100% damage and beastmaster gets 75%
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
Yes that's my problem everyone talk about damage modifier and your numbers are different from each other idk what is the source of information u bringing this numbers but i explain what i see in game not a invisible information no one knows from where its coming
@bigmunyjoe2 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming I’ll get the information you need to look at these numbers… do you play on pc?
@bigmunyjoe2 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming ok my friend I’ll tell you how to get the numbers you need … it’s the same formula for ranged and melee… melee damage = (weapon damage + strength % damage bonus) x melee multiplier. To find melee multiplier you have to be admin, have the follower follow you, push tilde key or insert I believe does it too but I use the tilde “~” key. That brings up console, and type “getfollowerstat damagemodifiermelee” just like that and hit enter … it’ll display a number. Ranged is same formula except ranged info and then “damagemodifierranged” hope that helps
@Cibran_2 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming Go into Single player mode, activate Admin mode, spawn a thrall that you want to check, make him follow you, open the Console menu and type GetFollowerStat DamageModifierRanged or DamageModifierMelee. This is how you check the hidden damage for each thrall.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@Cibran_ thx man will check it for future videos
@leonidas12762 жыл бұрын
Good video hosein!👍
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
Thx man I appreciate it ❤
@zazoreal55362 жыл бұрын
Use venom infused Daggers or Feroxic Daggers...way stronger than any other dagger unless you are going up against a foe that cannot be poisoned. In that case I would say....Use "The Grim" daggers.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
Ye agree I like those daggers u recomend
@MaroonGoone Жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t you use agility +15% growth rate food for leveling your archers, not gruel?
@darkcat.gaming Жыл бұрын
It's old video in old update now agility is better
@ipkiss6375 Жыл бұрын
Thank ya brotha!
@darkcat.gaming Жыл бұрын
❤❤👍ya my man
@papagotyou38762 жыл бұрын
Have you found a “Captain Bree” & tested on spitah? Captain Bree was similar to BeastMaster Teimos only thing was Bree was hard to get on spitah.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
I never heard about that thrall where u find it and what is his stats ?
@papagotyou38762 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming you find at the black hand camp southeast side of siptah map, & stats are similar to beast master teimos. Captain Bree thrall has low spawn % but is a thrall that can be tamed on siptah map. Basically same stats as beast master teimos
@papagotyou38762 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming captain Bree can be found on the docks where the npc archers spawn
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@papagotyou3876 then it's a really good thrall thx for info didnt know that
@papagotyou38762 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming “Sipho’s Shipyard” is the location Captain Bree spawns on the docks. Remember tho it’s hard to get this thrall but worth it when you do
@VeeSBP2 жыл бұрын
Is it good to put sandstorm mask on thralls to protect from poison arrows?
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
That was old meta when nobos was trying to kill enemy thralls by gass in officials I dont think anyone will do that now but its depend on u
@mr.brutal72582 жыл бұрын
now a slave is easy to kill with a sword and an ax, gas takes too long, but if u still wanna use mask put the helmet god killer
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.brutal7258 yes 👍
@gudmundursteinar2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Hyrkanian Heavy or Stygian Heavy give Agility?
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
Before update 3.0 they was giving accuracy since accuracy changes to agility in update 3.0 so I think yes
@zazoreal55362 жыл бұрын
Bro Beserkers are still the best with Relic hunters second. STR is just a better stat on Thralls than agility(Agility weapons except the bow, suck one thralls since they don't understand how they work) . Sure you can get Dalinsia Snowhunter or Lianeele the dancer(also str) They are pretty much the same as a Beserker. Also two thralls are better than one thrall.....tested that out to no end too. Archers now have a hidden damage buff linked to bows. That is why archers are no longer trash and actually insanely strong if given the right bows and arrows.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I always use 2 thralls it's also good for lvling them up I think
@Kupoinfo2 жыл бұрын
Did you test Tarman? Undina also starts off with like 30 agility.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
Never heard about this thralls can u help me where u find them?
@Kupoinfo2 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming Yeah Tarman is right on noob river, right before the desert turns into jungle before the horses. A little penisula near executioners cave. (there is a 2nd named fighter with high starting agility but forgot his name, like Kelly's ambush) Undina, Captain's Bodyguard is named thrall that spawns on the island in the bay southeast of where Teimos spawns on like the second to last platform from the top.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@Kupoinfo oh noob river thralls are not good as far as I know have u tried them ?
@Kupoinfo2 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming Yeah I have. With the thrall nerfs, they're not surprisingly as bad as they used to be. Their damage coefficient might be a smidge lower than berserkers, but they're a lot easier to acquire. That and I think they gain decent hp's per vitality. Like 90 hp per vitality point. Since they come out the gate with like 30 agility, they make good archers. But they also start with lower starting HP's, like 1400. So you have to level them to make proper use of them.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@Kupoinfo oh ok 👍
@bigfish44832 жыл бұрын
Does anyone like Freya? I have used her before and thought she was quite good.
@BertMerlin572 жыл бұрын
I like her and Dina, these vidios is ok but in reality, the margins are small and its RNG, if not good perks, reroll them. The problem I see whit archers is level there agility up when level up, unappetize cooked fish as food, but its often rotten before the figther eat them.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
i also like her but she dont grow on agility like beast master sadly
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
agree im glad they bring the elixir of rebirth so we can change trash stats at least XD
@randallporter14042 жыл бұрын
Freya and Dina start with 0 Agility and have a low chance for growth (IIRC, 40%). They are Archers in name only. Don't know what the hell Funcom is doing here.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@randallporter1404 yes there us some fighter thralls that have more damage on ranged or better agility than a t3 archer thrall 😅
@northstar56092 жыл бұрын
You know what really sucks guys ,,you can't force the extra inventory slot on thralls no more ....( Ex. Before,,,, for people that don't know what we talking about,,,, you could ,before ,put a weapon in thralls hand and then QUICKLY add one more item to they're inventory ,then when they unarmed themselves,, weapons would go to the extra slot giving them 6 slots instead of five ..smh ....no longer doable ,,,S0 SAD !!! 😭😉
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
True they fixed it 😫
@Chloroplastism2 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming They fix every shit but not the real problems
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@Chloroplastism ye 100%agree
@BerialPhantom Жыл бұрын
just cap agil dmg the armor setup in the video is wasting armor rating , u get diminishing returns at 780 armor rating
@darkcat.gaming Жыл бұрын
It's old video now things changed
@BerialPhantom Жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming not in regards to armour rating, still informative for the base thralls to use, just change the armor right
@darkcat.gaming Жыл бұрын
@@BerialPhantom oh ye correct
@Dean00942 жыл бұрын
Dune'man the Dragoon spawns with 30 agility on level 0 and he is 100% spawn on the Den
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
nice one i didnt know about that one thx for info
@Dean00942 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming The other one Kol true strike is his counter part , the same way Janos is for Lian.
@jensmetzner912 жыл бұрын
We got a sully with 66 agility
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
Nice one 👍
@einfach-yaso2 жыл бұрын
Still in love with the Zombies... 10 members + 30 Zombies 😂🤝 ez raid
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
That's a true zerg 😂😅
@michaelbrishaber87312 жыл бұрын
Or 40 zombies. Not as good for defense though.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbrishaber8731 each one have their own usages 👍
@Azrael_5150_2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhh yes I can feel the lag and 1 fps gameplay already... great stuff... NOT 😂 I cant stand when big clans do that (especially when fighting smaller clans) but none the less it's still entertaining
@einfach-yaso2 жыл бұрын
@@Azrael_5150_ yep, i use a ps5 and i was lagging around when we raided another base with Zombies 😂 u can see it in my last Video
@Zeratul3598 Жыл бұрын
Was hoping to see some pvp action.
@darkcat.gaming Жыл бұрын
I mean they nerfed it now a lot more so dont think beast master is an option now
@Ming19752 жыл бұрын
Yes! I only like archer thralls so they stay out of the way. Now knowing Themos is a good archer i like!
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
glad i could help try use beastmaster AND relic hunters for base defending they will do a good job for sure
@chinimon82592 жыл бұрын
Blackice arrows just as good as obsidian
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
My god I forgot about black ice arrows sry yes that's a really good point 👍😅
@chinimon82592 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming yea np keep up the good work I've been following you your vids taught me alot lol 😆 so now you have new one blackice arrows they are deadly I give them to my thralls obsidian is too much of a headache lol
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@chinimon8259 thx my man glad u liked the content ❤🙏
@chinimon82592 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming I've played this game for a longtime and your teaching me new things Conan always have new hidden things
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@chinimon8259 🙏❤glad I can help
@Elder-Uriel2 жыл бұрын
Hybrid builds be my thing
@pascalmadel73972 жыл бұрын
I still have Beastmaster with 5000 live 😁🤣🤣😝 Little Boy try Play real Game geht Out of U Sand Box
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
😂😅
@cohenstrang92832 жыл бұрын
Fighter thralls are all trash as archers because of hidden damage modifiers
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Cibran_2 жыл бұрын
Not true, Volcano and Relic Hunter fighter thralls have a higher Ranged damage multiplier than their Archer counterparts.
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
@@Cibran_ everyone telling me some numbers idk who to listen bro some ppl say archer better some ppl say fighter more range dmg some ppl give diffrent dmg multiplier number idk who to listen
@kinggtae80112 жыл бұрын
Why no red mother bow?
@darkcat.gaming2 жыл бұрын
cuz its so rare to find it but if you have it you can use it its really strong bow
@kinggtae80112 жыл бұрын
@@darkcat.gaming yea i have yet to find it ive farmed the dragon but just wondering if it might have been nerfed thanks tho man