Beastmen Update Explained!

Beastmen update explained (by an Australian). Not including any DLC content.
Are the Beastmen fixed?
Are they stronger or weaker than before?
Are they fun?
These questions will be answered
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[@connorkimball5431]

Beastmen campaigns went from splinter cell to doom eternal

[@memesofwarhemmer7076]

Beastmen:The cow is going to give it to ya Skarsnik: have mercy pls sorry for making fun of you Beastmen: no mercy

[@user-om3wn4yb8q]

Memes of warhemmer This gobbo is already laughing his ass out at monke norscans tho...

[@connorkimball5431]

@@memesofwarhemmer7076 n o n e

[@Sonic557]

Most underrated comment

[@seanpkrueger]

Beastmen have given up their old ways, now they're farmers and shepherds.

[@MagicalMaster]

Makes sense, they're cows after all.

[@indrickboreale7381]

Now they are not Beastmen, but Tomb Beasts

[@whats82]

Murderous herbivores still need to eat

[@NegaDruid]

And yet, by doing so, they can keep ruins ruined until someone burns the Herdstone.

[@jonathanbonicel1654]

@@indrickboreale7381 or Beast Kings

[@Kuddochan]

Rare to see Legend give that amount of praise

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

That really means something

[@GyroGarrison]

He sees a lot of cheese to be had.

[@valleyofshava]

After he gave them so much shit for so long too

[@awsomeman350]

legend is great, but it seems like he sees the games in numbers. I can be super excited for a cool looking unique unit, and legend is like "trash. not efficient at all. 0/10"

[@CWJ0725]

@@awsomeman350 some people are more aesthetic while some are more pragmatic.

[@messiha666]

The three guys actually playing Beastmen will have an absolute field day

[@ogretyrant8531]

Lol I’ve been playing beast men since I got the game there my fav faction but Even i couldn’t deny they where out of date but now I don’t have to worry and can get back to destroying humanity!

[@Mahons]

A lot more than 3 people will be playing them after the update simply because of how great the update is looking.

[@sirjoey3137]

My mate and my cousin literally only play Beastmen, I think there are far more than you think. I would love to play them as well but I'm taking so long to play all the other free races first.

[@charlescow454]

I've been waiting for a rework to properly play Beastmen. This is exactly what I wanted

[@chrispaul7595]

love beastman, hate the old mechanic, this makes me very happy.

[@mishmashmarsh9499]

The denying of resettlement given me huge hope for the chaos update next game.

[@novakaizr]

When razing settlements as woc you are essentially creating portals to the realms of chaos so it could work to make them act as semi garrisons, perhaps even allowing you to recruit some units at them. This beastmen implementation of no upkeep for units is also an obvious idea for woc

[@sokar_rostau]

Nevermind the next game... The Chaos Invasion includes a Warherd of Chaos, so even if the player can't do it the AI might be able to deny resettlement and actually get past Kislev.

[@knuckle1493]

@@novakaizr Gates of Chaos mod has them summon vassal hordes, which I like a lot.

[@novakaizr]

@@knuckle1493 I know, I use it too. It's not quite the same as a garrison though

[@bambblamb3734]

whenever I raze a settlement a random faction out of nowhere colonized it in the next 3 to 5 turns it was ridiculous. least I got the despoiler trait.

[@the_malefactor]

I'm so pumped, I love Beastmen thematically and this sounds like everything they needed.

[@priestskorge]

Hell yea dude. I'm hype. Love the beastmen cant freakin wait. Wish they would just let us have it now

[@mandu6665]

Same here! They've always been fun in battle but a chore in campaign. Now the campaign looks really fun, deep and thematically fitting. I cannot wait for this update and to rampage as Taurox across the world.

[@rockyrock95g90]

When he said they are at the same rank as Skaven.... I could not believe he said such words, first a 10/10 Troll Doomstack, Strong StormVermin, and now 10/10 Beastmen! Ranked as the same as Skaven

[@harryofrevachol3240]

I was suprised even more when he said Beastmen were stronger than Greenskins now, and i highly doubt it. Grom has Grom's Cauldron faction mechanic which gives good amount of buffs to your best units (like goblin archers). Thanks to Greenskins' building tree, when they expand enough they can literally recruit an entire army in a single turn. Greenskins can also use WAAAGH faction mechanic which literally doubles the amount of units you have in the game with no cost at all. Aaaaand on top of that if you are able to defeat WAAAGH target you get a permanent buff (lasts until other WAAGH reward) that depends on the faction you declared WAAAGH on.

[@kirevkizrepnav572]

@@harryofrevachol3240 Just some problems with greenskins: Grom is the only greenskin faction with that powerfull a faction buff, cauldron isn't a greenskin mechanic so it doesn't do anything for the faction ranking (nukes don't change skaven ranking, just skryre). There are more factions that can 1turn armies (empire/dwarfs) and have actual economy to support that kind of thing (still a sweet ability tho). Waaghs aren't free, they temporarily reduce rep after you finish them and slow down your armies (can be reduced by meming lords into the waagh armies but still a thing). "Permament" buffs which can't stack are just a toggle effect where you can pick an active bonus, with the added downside that choosing/switching can be rather annoying. Also they are melee oriented so on high difficulty they are penalized greatly. Overal not the worst faction, but definitely not top tier.

[@albericdecarrere8436]

@@kirevkizrepnav572 truer words have not been spoken

[@harryofrevachol3240]

@@kirevkizrepnav572 First when you finish and actually be successful at your WAAAGH you are either in another war atm or you definitely need to declare another war ASAP, so that after WAAAGH debuff really counts for nothing. Second, WAAAGH only slows down your armies when they are gathering, meaning that when a WAAAGH army reaches its host army's unit size, that movement penalty gets removed, meaning that you practically recruit units while moving in an enemy territory (which no other faction has this kind of ability). Third, I was talking about WAAAGH success buff when i said permanent buff, and not all of them provide melee bonus. Some provide casualty replanishment rate buff, some give more ammunition to ranged units and buff their missile damage, and some even increase public order (not sure about the last one tho). I think i answered these questions good enough. I don't claim Broken Axe is better than Clan Skryre but i definitely don't think Beastmen are better than Greenskins even without choosing Broken Axe as a starting faction. Btw i want to repeat that not many faction can increase their Global Recruitment capacity as easy as Greenskins do.

[@leto22cz]

@@harryofrevachol3240 Well if the statement was that Beastman are similar rank as Skaven, than they are definitely better then Greenskins. Most important thing will be: How fast you can accumulate Dread....Compered to other Items, Bonuses etc. It doesn't seems to be that much expensive to hire Lords/Heroes at lvl. 40.

[@markotoole7937]

"Is it a bird, is it a plane, oh man no...it stinks like shit, it's Malagor" had me lolling - great update overview

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

Tomb Kings style recruitment makes so much more sense for the beastmen!

[@nonenone379]

let the centigor milk flow

[@barbarossa9541]

Love ❤️ centigor milk 🥛 , wait is this milk ??? ❤️🤣

[@strangness7191]

What a sweet boy he was

[@bangkokharddd]

gross

[@AlphaRebel]

that is DISGUSTING XD

[@bignoobus]

sending the game out with a BANG. expectations high for game 3 now

[@grimgoreironhide9985]

Nah. Expect TW3 at launch to be barebones. They will add more content at extra price.

[@marcgw496]

I’m sure it’ll need some tweaking but hopefully it doesn’t pull a Rome 2 on launch day.

[@brockbabcock3086]

@@marcgw496 I think game 3 will launch rather light until the mortal empires update hits and then the game will soar past people's expectations

[@colef2222]

@@brockbabcock3086 Isn’t it confirmed immortal empires will be there at launch?

[@novakaizr]

@@colef2222 Pretty sure they have said it won't. It makes sense to not do it as launch as well. For one it lets them focus exclusively on getting it to work without having to finish the rest of the game at the same time, and it allows them to keep the hype going for longer

[@saltMagic]

So I guess now when I hear the """BEASTMEN""" voice while playing another faction my butthole will pucker up a bit, in stead of just some free xp and money

[@shadowraven3253]

'The Brayherds are coming' before: oh look free money and exp now: that is actually a problem

[@tybaltmarr2158]

“Maybe you’ll have a herd of just centigors…” beastman centigor flc lord confirmed

[@FR4Z3R96]

Don’t do that… don’t give me hope…

[@whitecreamymilk8436]

Dude im still simping for moonclaw.

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

@@FR4Z3R96 Don't worry, it'll probably be in three. We've got three Big Names left after all. Moonclaw, Slugtongue and Ghorros

[@varengo1838]

@@hawkticus_history_corner wouldnt really call the last two big names though

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

@@varengo1838 I'd kind of agree on Slugtongue but Ghorros is pretty well known as far as the tabletop was concerned and in any event, I was just listing off the Unique Characters we have left. And I even forgot one, the two headed Ungor whose name escapes me

[@alexandermackay6885]

Patch notes: Stink of Nurgle: -4 leadership for enemies in local region, from -5 Sad moo noises Also Bastmen rework *beastial roar*

[@francesco8000]

I think a lot of people would like if the option to "buy\confederate" legendary lord even if they die was something shared among all races. I'm also pretty sure that a lot of the mechanics will also come back for the warrior of chaos in the future.

[@Sir_Bucket]

would make sense, CA have treated a lot of those DLC like experience before adding the newly made mechanics back to other races. The tomb kings' crafting has been given to the dwarfs, Norsca's confederation given to orks, etc... It makes sense that they use this DLC as a test for the respond toward WH3

[@chrisf7730]

There is a mod i use that does this, when a faction of your kind is destroyed you have the option of taking them on, delaying, moving them onto another faction of your kind or killing them. It made start of games much more relaxed than rushing heroes to sprint to locations before the lord dies

[@francesco8000]

@@chrisf7730 That's exactly how i feel and i think the game would just be better if it was in vanilla. I'm sure that very few people would complain if they had to spend a Huge amount of money to resurrect a legendary hero with the ability to freely respec their skill tree. I don't even think that's OP because this is not a competitive game, it's about having a good time.

[@fourcgames7568]

Holy fuck.. These guys were unplayable before and now I feel like they're gonna be so much fun. Can't wait for the DLC to come out.

[@blanck7457]

how do you feel now

[@kilomile8722]

I like the passion when Legend says "destroy"

[@95DarkFire]

I love to hear these news! Beastmen were one of the first factions I played when I got Warhammer 1, and I hated how badly they were treated by CA.

[@MusicianLCS]

To be honest cant wait for the dwarf and ogre update

[@TheChief10097]

I always seem more excited for the FLC, can’t wait to play dwarfs in a new spot haha

[@imtherealgandalf3490]

ogres are in the game with this update part of the beastmen roster. They have some ogre units it looked like

[@Gutenburg100]

I really just want runic golems. Make them like treekin. They don't wreck units but they can't take a beating and don't get pushed through by monsters and cavalry like mkst dwarf units do. Be nice to have a front line that can prevent large units from getting to your back lines.

[@charalamboscharalambous165]

@@imtherealgandalf3490 the ogres are part of a new mercanary mechanic and are not tied to a specific roster

[@oomsou5018]

This beastmen update sounds like everything beastmen fans could have hoped for. I can’t wait for the 14th!

[@Arielsoto13]

Wasn't for the 24th?

[@gazimbo3176]

ok, legend has succumbed to the ruinous powers. "destroy kill kill kill."

[@alexc5243]

Raze for the raze god

[@hammerdruid5836]

Yes, cant wait

[@Ulgar80]

Yes! Yes!

[@maloneyf89]

I wish I had watched this before starting your Taurox VoDs. The mechanics make so much more sense now. Great video!

[@Fedelex91]

A real chad would do a doomstack with 20 Legends of Total War!

[@Sylinnilys]

20 legendary spellcasters 1/19 heroes with the lore of cheese? Too OP.

[@TheDrexxus]

Wow. They are like Tomb Kings on crack. No need to slowly build and defend a large empire, you just grow constantly and never lose anything. That is nuts. I bet they're going to be so fun to play now. I love the Dread mechanic to buy army caps you really want instead of the Tomb King way of just buying 1 of all the tier 5 and tier 4 buildings in every settlement. I'm excited, can't wait.

[@blakeisthebeast]

Thanks for the update vid legend. I was holding off on getting beastmen and the new dlc, but this really sold me on it. Looks like good fun.

[@kerrypooley406]

THIS WAS GREAT! Thank you for the brofessional review!

[@dang.9095]

Man this all sounds fucking great! I will play my first ever Beastmen campaign as soon as this is out

[@brasswirebrush]

This looks fantastic, I'm actually looking forward to playing a Beastman campaign now

[@H0urg1ass]

This looks really fun, very well thought out and I can't wait to play it. I LOVE the Beastmen so much that I played them on the tabletop for a decade, and played through their campaign on TWW2 twice.

[@Papadragon18]

I can definately see a couple of these mechanics translating to Warriors of Chaos as well. Particularly the Dread/Rewards system. Would really like for WoC to be more splintered, like most other factions. I've been sceptical of this DLC and update, but it's growing on me. Good to have the details explained. Cheers.

[@rinsgravity2007]

yes. It is my time. Thank you so much for a detailed video! Love the passion and breakdowns!

[@pascaldifolco4611]

Seems a pretty good pack of changes !

[@disabledcable685]

Thank You for all the hours and hard work you put into this video, it seems TWWH2 is going out with a gigantic bang!

[@baciu14]

im so glad this rework exists, finished recently an orion campaign and it was fun, before the update it was suffering. congrats ca on the good job, cant wait to play this and wh 3

[@senshibat8920]

really changes your old 20 turns guide man

[@Sinpersonified]

Big question: you say the generic lords lose all their buildings when they die, but what if you've leveled them up to 20 and gotten immortal? It's understandable them losing the builds before that as they're just dead, but with immortal, surely they would keep their horde builds wouldn't they?

[@LegendofTotalWar]

no. the buildings are not tethered to them

[@Sinpersonified]

@@LegendofTotalWar Thanks for the reply, 'preciate it

[@Duncan2201]

I am so pleased to hear how much more fun they are to play! I never got far with my previous campaigns because I just wasn't enjoying them as much as I felt I should have. Looking forward to release!

[@seltin1988]

cant wait too see a campagin from you on this race! hope the flc lord is fun too!

[@ginozancanaro3346]

sounds great. everything in here. and it comes when i end the exams! this will be a good summer

[@nonyabisness6306]

Sounds like a fantastic update. Can't wait to play Beastmen again, everytime I tried in WH2 I quit within 10 minutes. Did they change the Army Stances? Used to be pretty annoying in that horde stance wasted turns.

[@EzekielHateable]

Great video. Answered all my questions.

[@sigmarite._.arch-lector]

Can't wait to watch LegendofTotalWar's beastmen campaign livestream!

[@falithon]

Awesome video, thanks Legend

[@MoosePissUK]

At last a beastman update, no need to download or try and make compitable mods work with each other. Beastman and goblins are the best !

[@chrisberg2]

This looks fantastic - Was abit worried, but now im fully hyped for beastmen campaigne. I love playing TomeKings and seeing a similare mechanic here just got me all up and hyped.

[@leadpaintchips9461]

From what little I know of the Beastmen lore, the rework is more lore friendly for the mentality of the Beastmen, where there all about moving from one site of atrocity to another, reveling in the destruction. It's more like what would happen if the Orks had the cunning, knowledge, and fighting of the Wood Elves (but a bit less because Elves are supposed to be OP in most fantasy).

[@jakobtonndorff7865]

This looks great. It also looks like they took a lot of inspiration from the SFO mod, which is also great

[@kwdblade4683]

May I also say it is always refreshing to see Legend excited 😄

[@tobedetermined2424]

if i were to add anything to this update, I would add a buff for when you complete a blood ground. Like a 1 or 2 turn buff to movement for local armies. and a 1-2 turn buff to pop growth for the blood ritual site. would push the player to set up a new ritual as soon as possible. Call it a gore-slick buff or something. Other than that, i love this update.

[@richardmatthews7275]

I've been waiting for this video

[@shake-it4206]

Certainly looks a lot better than before. GOnna be interesting to see how the AI deals with it and if the Beastmen are gonna be hard to deal with

[@22chainlink22]

damn, exciting mechanics! Nice review btw!

[@ChaosProphet90]

Thanks for the update video Legend, any chance of a proper Beastmen lp after the dlc comes out? I miss those campaigns :P

[@matt12th]

Great explanation!!

[@meik-oliver5931]

I could emagine chaos portals for the chaos warriors now, just kinda like the Herdstones, *hope intensifies* :)

[@gregchezick7757]

When he says Gore Bulls it sounds like he wants us to start propagandizing in 1940s Germany.

[@markcollins2704]

I'm more of a Franco man myself.

[@crestfallenknight6599]

@@markcollins2704 Based

[@mickethegoblin7167]

Took me a sec

[@MrVlad12340]

*Happy moo* At last… beastbois finally aint a joke… For so long have we waited!

[@mrprotein3434]

This update is solid hearing legend talk about it like this

[@discipleofdagon8195]

Teacher: why are you giggling? Me: nothing My brain: Joseph Gorebulls

[@core74cove]

From dumpster-quality to rat-quality?! That’s insane! I can’t wait to give these lads another go!

[@alex_zetsu]

16:23 I love Legend's humor.

[@paleface171]

It's nice to see that Khazrak now starts with bestigors. It was odd how his old buffs were put towards bestigors and he didn't start out with any. When other lords did start with a target unit. Wulfhart gets Huntsmen Gromm gets a Pump Wagon Count Noctilus gets a Necrofex Colossus. It's a nice change.

[@MadArtillery]

Sounds like they actually did a good job on it! Good to hear!

[@geebzz7938]

I like the beast men lore wise so I’m super excited to play them

[@rock_man]

Never played beastmen before this update but I got the dlc yesterday and started a campaign with Taurox. Dude is an absolute monster and I managed to take out malekith, grab the sword of khaine, and decimate the donut with it pretty quickly and easily. Taurox with the sword of khaine can easily be a one man doomstack I think. He can get an absurd charge bonus and hits enemy lords for most of their health in the initial charge. I've gone against full stacks of dark elves and high elves and the battles last only a minute or two until army losses is inflicted. Oh and being able to replenish movement and raze multiple settlements per turn is pretty fun. One of the strongest and most fun campaigns I've played so far.

[@shadowrider7072]

Nice information!

[@mcstotti8691]

The denial of resettlement is a great feature it would fit thematically if the chaos factions where the frontline of destruction and beastmen would then move in an build herdstones and pillage whats left after the ruinous powers have swept through. Kind of Naikai style.

[@razgrizz5996]

Wow. Ive never seen legend be THIS positive about a major game change. Thats impressive. This video was definitely encouraging.

[@andrewpopcicle]

So excited for this!

[@indrickboreale7381]

[Bassboosted version starts] TYLKO JEDNO W GŁOWIE MAM

[@michalk3258]

Koksu pięć gram odlecieć sam

[@user-om3wn4yb8q]

W krainę za zapomnienia

[@user-om3wn4yb8q]

*Happy moo*

[@jamesjh7388]

Thanks Legend, good vid.

[@albericdecarrere8436]

I never played Beastmen and never really wanted to give them a try. But this... does put a smile on my face. Literally, I was grinning like an idiot when I reached the end of the video, I cannot imagine what it must be like for a Beastmen fan

[@skyesfury8511]

Wait... A reason to raze settlements? Am I dreaming?!

[@colef2222]

What an amazing thing for the legendary lords for confederation. They need to do this for all the factions in some capacity. Maybe not necessarily all races like the high elves(which diplomacy is kind of the point), green skins or tomb kings(who have other means of confederation), but would be an incredible add on for any campaign

[@SGProductions87]

Only 2 things missed: LL skill trees and any adjustments to LL starting traits

[@taddad2641]

think this can also make the beastmen more dangerous as ai too. they will likely get a stack of weak chaff quickly, and if they survive long e nough replenish strong units quickly.

[@partydean17]

Looks awesome! That really doesnt seem like a horde faction tho with those beefy herdstones

[@biowiener7825]

damn, looks super fun, actually thinking about picking up both dlc while they are still on sale

[@Cylindryk]

16:30 - I laughed so loud... and almost chocked myself with food... :D Damn, I can't wait for Taurox to come out and play them. :) Time to get back with paiting my Beastmens army. :)

[@sevenshadesofsmooth]

MOO FOR THE MOO GOD AND BELLS FOR HIS THRONE

[@grumpynic4280]

Great video! Thanks

[@JamestheKilljoy]

Woah… Legend giving this so much praise when he is a pretty critical guy in general. Has me super hyped. I haven’t bothered even playing a Beastmen campaign cuz they seemed so bad, I’m excited to start my first campaign

[@Mettwurst-chan]

Really glad to see special herdstones for certain locations. This encourages to lorefully kill all Wood Elves and i like it

[@Masquerade1200]

I've always loved beastmen, been waiting for them to get good since WH1

[@theycallmeraf626]

Wish the army capacity mechanic was more used, has the potential to make the management during the campaign more dynamic

[@spirit959ful]

Legend out here hinting that hes actually throwing in campaigns early on that are already supposed to bring in lots of views so he can increase the viewcount further :D

[@disk3001]

I hope they do the whole legendary lord recruit mechanic with the Tomb Kings, they already have a alternative resource and they can maybe based that cost on how powerful that specific faction is you want to buy or be required to have higher strength ranking than them (so you don't just suddenly buy up a strength ranking 3+ faction and take over their empire with enough jars)

[@disk3001]

Or the faction of the legendary lord needs to be destroyed and then you raise them with the jars Which would make more sense since it's like subjugating/resurrecting the fallen legendary lord

[@Zquirrelthing]

i absolutely love the tomb-king unit cap

[@TheRedAzuki]

So the global bonus seems to be notable areas where you would feasibly fight as a beastmen lorewise. (That's why there isn't any in Tomb Kings areas because beastmen doesn't fight there)

[@demongrenade2748]

How will this update effect other hordes? Example: Warriors of Chaos. Will they get any of the new mechanics or are they remaining unchanged?

[@jojodd88]

Hope the Tomb Kings will get this confederation mechanic

[@ddenozor]

These changes sound so promising. I can't wait to play beastmen now.

[@TheManofthecross]

this is going to be brutal and more wonder how fast they can recruit armies and keep it up before they get swatted down.

[@StormcastMarine]

This looks incredible 😍

[@Masquerade1200]

When I saw the dwarf update too I felt so excited

[@miowave6331]

Hey, i got a question: You said, that the legendary Lord will keep the buildings, but the other Lords wont. Most likely because the legendary Lord can respawn but others get killed. My question: what if the other Lord is immortal, would he not also respawn when rerecruited?

[@SovietRussia777]

I would also like to know lol

[@albertsawko4797]

I’d guess they would also have their buildings back

[@OctagonCookies]

He answered this question on someone else's comment, he said that no - the buildings aren't tied to none legendary lords even if they're immortal.

[@jordantoms4367]

Beastmen thematically are one of my favourites. I was gonna buy the DLC anyways but it's nice to know I won't be dissapointed.

[@philclay9051]

I would love to see a beastman campaign

[@ItsAVolcano]

Lore wise I love that the closest thing the Beastmen have to a city is just a really big rock they carve rituals into and cluster around.😁😂