The Team that RIGGED THE NFL | Documentary |

[@DarkSideSports1]

Are the Patriots the Biggest Cheaters in NFL History?

[@MegaMiamiboi305]

Yes

[@lorenzoalexander1754]

Yes

[@AZJELLO]

Yes undoubtedly

[@chadwilson461]

@Im Dying in 2093 don't make it right

[@MrTheotherbeave]

@Chad Wilson, You’re right, it doesn’t make it right. But the question isn’t whether they did wrong, the question is whether they’re the BIGGEST cheaters in the NFL.

[@VolsSlimJimmy]

It was actually kind of funny in that wild card game when the Tennessee Titans ended the dynasty coach Mike Vrabel who used to play for Bill Belichick used the same delay-of-game punt trick a couple times to run like 3 or 4 minutes off the clock and the loophole is closed the next year. 😆 When coach Vrabs used Bill Belichick's trick against him he was so f****** pissed on the sidelines cussing and freaking out it was hilarious. 🤣

[@ZuluGamingSeries]

Love that vid, He was doing it against the jets he laughed when it happened against him he was pissed

[@ChristopherMcKinney-pm2rt]

I absolutly love it

[@EJD339]

@@ZuluGamingSeriesI have to check this out now

[@dhayden2974]

I remember dat shit. Hilarious

[@Mik3yLow]

​@@EJD339 17:12

[@lrkcm373]

Once a case gets to the point where “the evidence was destroyed” everyone knows that they’re guilty as sin.

[@adamdorgant9454]

True!!!

[@dwaynecollins4974]

I thought all you had to do was pull the SIM card out of it but I guess completely crushing and destroying it's a good way to go to LOL

[@jaredchacon2645]

Absolutely

[@davidhowell1415]

The jets who called out the patriots were also caught breaking that same rule a few weeks after

[@dwaynecollins4974]

@@davidhowell1415 I don't seem to remember that. Were they penalized for it?

[@MongoLikeBeer]

Random tidbit, the Patriots ran that same trick play the time they played the Eagles prior, successfully. Long before any Eagle heard about it in practice

[@kingbacon6563]

exactly what I was thinking. I remembered them running it successfully and figured that's why they tried it again... but Brady had the nasty cut on his hand so it didn't go well.

[@Beezy001]

The eagles actually took it from the bears who ran it earlier in the season. Pretty sure there’s an interview where Doug Pederson even said it

[@mcpumpkingaming3390]

The part of this I always point back to is Josh McDaniels' brief stint as the Broncos head coach. He was caught (surprise, surprise) video taping the 49ers practice in London, and wasn't the coach for much longer. When he was fired, he was again welcomed back with open arms as the Patriots OC.

[@wtvdam]

Not really, he spent time as offensive assistant with the Rams (then still in St.Louis) before he returned to NE.

[@juanmurillo3176]

Josh McDaniels has done nothing repeatedly over his career as a head football coach & yet he keeps getting opportunities over & over again. Including again now with the Raiders. All While other more better coaches don't. I smell a little head coaching privilege here being implemented for being a Bill Belichick Patriots guy. If you noticed, many former Belichick assistant coaches get hired all the time repeatedly more than others better candidates. Well, except for Romeo Crennel that is. I wonder why that is?🤔

[@russellbenson1736]

​@@juanmurillo3176cause they coach on a team that won a lot of games

[@danman1809]

Cry me a river pumpkin.

[@GusInWakefield]

Crennel got as many chances as head coach as McDaniels, moron. Twice. I don't where your "over and over" b.s.

[@caiuscosades6423]

No wonder why almost every member of Bill Belichick's coaching tree was terrible outside New England

[@philipdavison3862]

Your right,the raiders have one now who is destroying a team by cutting and trading good players for shit. ones

[@jpducati916]

Lol, they don’t bring that up do they. McDaniels currently destroying the Raiders.

[@yourmomsschlongdong]

@@philipdavison3862he’s gone now lmaooo

[@therealityofitall4819]

It is odd isn't it?? That most of them are not successful in the pros or college.. I haven't heard anything about Highschool neither.. 🤔

[@therealspaghetti208]

@@therealityofitall4819Nick Saban?

[@steelenigma17]

There is no doubt the talent was there. But the fact this much cheating was swept under the rug is ridiculous. They treated it like nothing happened, so it probably kept going. And the fact it's rarely talked about is part of the cover up too. Craft used a lot of his power to keep things going. They even sat there and labeled the Super Bowl after Brady's suspension "Brady's revenge against the NFL".

[@UprightCaucasoid]

People are tired of explaining basic physics to idiots.

[@robertleonard4995]

Funny thing about the cheater accusing crowd, tends to ignore things every one does. Like Indys tendencies to sample crowd noises and amplify it so no one on the field can hear... But funnier still, After this bull crap Brady went on to punish the NFL tour and had an undefeated season.😂😂😂😂

[@JL-ho1tc]

Incorrect.. The fact that they were winning so much, without any real talent, was the first sign that made me notice that something was going on.. I said it years before the cheating came out that something wasn't right with this team. I was one of the very first people ever to recognize and say out loud that this team has something odd going on, almost like they're cheating... Turns out they were cheating in every game non stop for 20+ years.

[@christianwilson3853]

A lot of this isn’t cheating, it’s just abusing loopholes which all good teams should do. All teams abuse the medical timeout for example late in games. Bending the rules isn’t cheating.

[@JL-ho1tc]

@@christianwilson3853 tom brady has never played a clean game in his entire career.. he's the biggest scumbag cheater in the history of sports.

[@garythorstenson6783]

It was not illegal to tape defensive signals. Everyone in the league did it. What WAS illegal was doing it from the sidelines, which in itself was a recent change. Bill thought the rule was stupid, and continued to tape from the sideline, even though Mangini warned him not to. Robert Kraft said it best: "Bill, did you know it was illegal to tape from the sideline?" "Yes I did." "Well, then, you're a putz."

[@georgesouthwick7000]

Well, I think the 70 mph. speed limit is “stupid”, but if I drive 100 mph and get stopped by the police, I doubt calling the law “stupid” will impress the judge.

[@Franktank111]

Haha😂

[@rickyrichreacts9667]

@@georgesouthwick7000hey old man, we are talking about football not speed limit.

[@TheDudeAbides337]

@@rickyrichreacts9667😂😂😂😂😂

[@Foolishpleazure]

@@rickyrichreacts9667 it's an ANALOGY.......do you comprehend what that is?

[@riconui5227]

It’s hard to imagine that the NFL might be as corrupt as FIFA, but there’s no reason to think they aren’t. With big wagers riding on games now, the stakes have been jacked up, and I think we know how that plays out. Think Black Sox. The Pats seem to be getting kid glove treatment in spite of the scandals, and that might have something to do with Kraft’s stature in the league. The NFL is, after all not a public service. It’s a creature of the owners…..full stop.

[@mediaguy4037]

They literally admit that the sports books and NFL work together…..”official partner of the NFL” Vegas and NFL are one.

[@alexhuerta4736]

It's not hard to imagine. They are as corrupt as FIFA. They are organizations that only care about money.

[@ALLENL.-xz2gg]

NOT only that but slot more people have done exponentially more for a lot less at stake.!

[@eac1235]

Back in 2009 the FBI estimated that over 65 billion dollars a year is illegally gambled in the US ,that's a conservative estimate!!!!! And yet you and I are to believe that none of this money ever goes to players, league members or refs.

[@eac1235]

​@@mediaguy4037Read the books by Brian Touhy!!! The Fix is In, Larceny Games, The Fix is Still In and Dan Moldea book ,Interference.

[@JamesSmith-gc9kk]

As a jets fan, I don’t accept bill’s apology to all those affected.

[@345optimusprime]

@JamesSmith-gc9kk Lol yes because fans were most affected. Give me a break

[@philandersen7841]

As a fellow jet fan I agree. There are so many legitimate reasons despise bill.

[@therealjb8253]

Awe poor guy. Here's a cookie. 🍪 and world's smallest violen playing for you. 🎻

[@Joseph-tl5nw]

Another fan of a terrible team trying to make up bs just to make themselves believe the reason they were bad wasn’t their fault

[@MichaelFougere]

You don't deserve an apology. Your team was doing the exact same thing.

[@dbc7772011]

23:00 Coach Bellicheat doesn’t verbally deny cheating! He laughs, kind of shakes his head and says, “chuckle, chuckle….can’t imagine.” Great documentary!

[@provosta]

Would it have made any difference to you if he had denied it?

[@mauricejenkins2819]

How well has Bella cheat done since number 12 left or before he arrived greatest coach of all time laughable😂😭🤡🤡🤡🤡🤐🤐

[@provosta]

@@mauricejenkins2819 his team-which hasn’t had any offense to speak of since they won SB 53-is still in playoff contention. When you’re done fixing that stuck emoji button, get an education in how pro football operates and come back with something more intelligent than a hangover-inspired shot from the hip

[@christinalove8223]

@@mauricejenkins2819 🤡

[@PBMdanya]

​@fukr000 lol the team blows now since tb12 left, Bill success outside of New England is tied with Parcells and the giants, his tenure in Cleveland was alright.

[@theprot0m4n]

Seems fitting for a team who's dynasty was started by one of the most controversial calls in NFL history. Great vid!

[@Kodak_1911]

Right after 9-11

[@solidrockofjesuschristmini2423]

Yep and there's one constant with them, controversy...........

[@timaloha]

Controversial, yes. But correct.

[@adamdorgant9454]

@@timaloha More like Pro Football’s version of Watergate!!!!

[@WonderDerek]

whose*

[@williamthomas5215]

It really makes you appreciate and understand Peyton Manning’s greatness that he was able to have as much success against Brady and Belichick as he did despite this level of nefarious behavior. Especially considering the fact that he played them so often.

[@tmoore74]

Eli too. he beat them in the superbowl

[@StrikeBuster-b2b]

Eli was the true tom Brady Slayer.

[@pa93562]

Makes sense how they kept on getting outplayed in the early part of his career even though colts had the better overall team

[@mattygee79]

@@pa93562you clearly didn’t watch those games

[@josephsuarez8178]

​​@@tmoore742Xz Cuz...2Xz he Busted That Ass and Gottem 💪in SuperBowls

[@ryanwills-37]

It's awesome seeing Dan Orlovski on ESPN we played high-school football together!!

[@dynamite215]

That's dope! 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@mattcox3373]

Was he a standout?

[@hoopman82]

Wait you are the “Ryan wills?” Agreed- I met Dan 0 with family at airport. Couldn’t be nicer guy. Great at what he does to

[@ryanwills-37]

@@hoopman82 yes I grew ip in shelton Ct. We played high-school football together. His father was one of the offensive lineman coaches.

[@ryanwills-37]

@@mattcox3373 he was on junior varsity as a freshman so he could learn the offense for the following year. Then he got a scholarship to play at UConn and would be their best QB ever and got drafted to Detroit were he ended up on the Hall of Shame twice...lol but still he was always a good guy he paid to have the field and track all re-done state of the art like. Shelton was always a football powerhouse town.

[@colinforsecs3393]

He knew every coach's scheme from his generation. When they fined him, he'd already known everyone's plays on specific downs. The NFL would bounce coaches around, and he had already known their game plans, down and distanced plays for years and years. And when you have the game's greatest game manager it equaled quick success. Now the NFL has younger coaches, he's got a new quarterback, and everyone is more than aware of the dude's cheating. He went right back to being the 9-7 Cleveland Browns he was prior to joining the Pats.

[@leonardthomas4634]

Yes 😀.

[@therealityofitall4819]

Man you nailed it! Your comment is perfectly worded..

[@billytyler9106]

Couldn't have stated it better

[@nickhalden9220]

This guy never won anything without Bill parcel or Tom Brady

[@colinforsecs3393]

@@billytyler9106 He's never been a great offensive coach, he's always been a great defensive coordinator. I can't remember but I believe he was video taping defensive signals to aid his poor offense in 2001 I don't think you can be called the greatest coach of all time when you've done things like this to disrespect the other coaches from his generation. I don't think those coaches would call him the greatest. In some way, it was clever, and you have to admire the genius in finding loop holes within the game to press the boundaries of cheating. It's like admiring a 21 year old counting cards at the Casino, not everyone can do it so there's something to be said for that. But in regards to Belichek it seems clear that he's tried to weed people out to take the overall credit for the teams overall success, and he got away with it until now. He weeded out the last person who was the most loyal to him.

[@alwilson3204]

It WAS a dynasty built on deceit.

[@MrAgers]

Cry

[@MacJones-cc3yn]

​@@MrAgers Found one of the many gay lovers bill had 😂

[@johnserrano9689]

So youre not aware of many other teams with MUCH more and far more serious forms of "getting ahead"?.....dam truth always has a way of destroying one's safe zone built up with lies amd deceit lol Like traitor Trump I guess hey? And hell I'm a lifelong conservative myself....

[@stromboliolie8762]

I've always found it strange that they've been caught cheating on multiple occasions and in super bowls. Yet not a single title of theirs was stripped from them. Someone like Lance Armstrong who got caught "Cheating" for oxygenation to his blood. Got every single medal he's ever earned ever stripped. I know it's a different profession but it's still horrible.

[@herbertpetrillo485]

because Armstrong's a White man.

[@Finesse_]

What they gonna do say there's no sb champions for that year or years

[@bigstyx]

Who do you think the owner of the patriots is buddy buddy with I’ll give you a hint his first name is Roger.

[@Finesse_]

@@bigstyx again tf does that have to do with race

[@provosta]

You mean on one (single) occasion, no connection to any SB

[@matthewalexanderlemma8000]

Cheating occurs more often than you think in the NFL. Rumor has it, the Tennessee Titans somehow got their mitts on the Jacksonville Jaguars’ playbook before the AFC Championship Game in ‘99, which the Titans won.

[@Kevin23001]

Explain how Tennessee beat them both times in regular season then…? I say this as a huge fan of that jackonsville team

[@herbertpetrillo485]

please.the Titans swept them during the regular season

[@provosta]

@@herbertpetrillo485 and this ‘proves’ TENN wouldn’t have tried to acquire every possible advantage in the postseason?

[@AZAZEL_TK]

And then my Rams avenged the Jagz

[@terrypaulson5945]

Yes more than a rumor was there. However all this is children's play compared to N>O> in 2019 leading to their 2020 SB win. I have written about the fact above. I mean paper and film is one thing. But rendering injury to players is just a step beyond. OH I forgot not only Warner's career end in AZ but Minni's QB also in the following game was carried off.

[@JacobSky-n1f]

Brady destroys his phone and nobody bats an eye? Wtf

[@Rockreviews1994]

They did 😭

[@aliceflanagan3672]

I destroy my phones also. Too many nosy individuals.

[@49ersfan21]

Of course he destroyed his phone they have no business going through his phone. Maybe he doesn’t want Roger Goodell to see his at the time wife naked

[@brianplumb490]

If you were married to a model, you would too. :)

[@turtleislandlac1490]

Wow rare clip of Skip talking about the Patriots' advantages from cheating. Must have been before he was on the Brady bandwagon.

[@blacksuburban2410]

Nah, he’s been talking about the cheating like that BECAUSE of his love for Brady. When it comes to Skip and the NFL, ANYBODY and ANYTHING that goes against Brady and his legacy is on Skip’s Hit List. And you know who’s number one on that list? Bill Belichick. Skip HATES that the Coach gets ANY credit whatsoever. The cheating only helped on defense in Skip’s eyes. Even the opponent’s defensive signals. With deflate gate, Skip says Brady had nothing to do with it- even going so far as to say that Brady didn’t even benefit from it.

[@turtleislandlac1490]

@@blacksuburban2410 But the Patriots were accused of filming the opposition's defensive signals. That can only help Brady.

[@charlesbrady15]

No you just joined very late

[@turtleislandlac1490]

@@charlesbrady15 No sure what you mean by "joined" Skip made those comments on First Take over 10 years ago. Skip used to be somewhat objective on Brady.

[@charlesbrady15]

@@turtleislandlac1490 you started watching the rigged league a bit late. Skip is just a bandwagon analyst like everyone else

[@binks2413]

If im an owner of an NFL team its worth a $500,000 fine to win a superbowl. Just saying

[@stevenstocker7425]

Funny how the patriots controversy is mentioned 24/7 and yet the “Bountygate” scandal is never mentioned

[@s1g1rican]

Exactly! Saints are guilty too!

[@relaxandcalmstation]

Oh the Saints were made an example of that’s why…… half the team got kicked off …… lost draft picks ….. organization fined and the head coach was suspended for a year. The NFL made an example out of New Orleans. But when the cheating Pats get caught doing something they just got a slap on the wrist 🤔

[@Biguhaul]

The patriots is viewed as the greatest dynasty in nfl history that’s why their getting more coverage than the saints

[@jpducati916]

Patriots recorded pregame walk throughs. So you know if you have to define the rule down to the letter and intent they were knowingly crossing the line.

[@dalegribble1560]

Joe Montana once said "If you're not cheating you're not trying hard enough" while stopping short of directly saying the 80's 49ers cheated.

[@PhilP8980]

I'm sure every team has its own methods of pushing the boundaries. Maybe the Patriots just weren't very good at getting away with it.

[@elinovak3770]

How did they cheat?

[@PhilP8980]

@@elinovak3770 I'm sure every team uses whatever methods they can to gain some kind of competitive advantage. Whether it's legal or illegal. You just don't hear about it. The Patriots seem to be really good at getting caught doing these things.

[@dalegribble1560]

@@elinovak3770 Jerry Rice admitted to using stickum

[@kjhart60]

The first time I heard that phrase, if you're not cheating you're not trying, was Matt millen talking about when he was drafted by the raiders. That's what the veterans told him when he came in as a rookie.

[@328am]

Well said, “unprecedented success, marred in controversy and scandal” 🙃

[@David-mp6vc]

The Patriot way? This is not just Bill or Tom culture. Its much deeper. From the owner, staff and players they all knew to take advantage of the system. The league should have ban all of them decades ago but didn't. It launched this so called dynasty and indicates how this league truly functions.

[@Chuck_EL]

My kid's mom called it after the Patriots beat the Rams in the Superbowl that it was rigged I watched that game, Martz did the same thing Bill Callahan did a year later

[@gabrieljohannson6777]

Yep, why many people donr watch it.

[@milanmujezinovic]

If you can't hide,expose it. Expose like "dynasty"...

[@gillroygarlic3616]

Yeah, that’s the Bostonian way though. Many Celtics championships are hallow, Red Sox monopolied their talent like the Yankees after 2004.

[@milanmujezinovic]

@@gillroygarlic3616 really, I can't believe. I always thought that Boston is the center of science and technology, and that's why they are honest and hard-working,but now I see that isn't true.

[@Xrobberyx]

Spyware wasn’t about taping signals it was not illegal to tape signals . It was the location on the field that was illegal. All 32 teams have admitted to taping practices and signals post spygate .

[@thedragonchaser]

"If you're not cheating, you're not trying" - Eddie Guerrero

[@FentyCola559]

RIP the GOAT

[@smackedcity7125]

VIva La Raza!!!

[@Sweeney-Kubach]

Actually Joe Montana said that.

[@dbc7772011]

No, but you’re probably a patriots fan

[@thedragonchaser]

Buffalo Bills

[@charlesdavis6371]

if they got caught this many times - I have to wonder how many times they got away with cheating.

[@Channel-23s]

Can’t be much as for getting caught it was more like 1-2 debate able because you’d think former players would hint or confess due to basically 0 backlash of events 19-20 years ago

[@afmartin2734]

They were never caught. They were framed, as proven 100 times over by now.

[@pirate5019]

Well the fact that Kraft is responsible for appointing Goodell as commissioner in the first place could answer your question

[@johngancarcik5682]

@@pirate5019 can't wait till Goodell is gone

[@mwjohnson2857]

Is not ESPN headquarters in Gillette Stadium?

[@-PURPLE-HEAD]

As a 49ers fan I would like the 80s Giants investigated too. Back then Belichick had an uncanny knack for shutting down Walsh’s offense like no other. They cost the 49ers potentially three Super Bowls.

[@mistermattmoose]

when i was in jr. high/ high school, i was watching pro wrestling on a saturday afternoon. my dad walked in the room, and after a few moments, asked me, "do you know why people go to see wrestling live?" i said no. he told me, "they don't go to see someone win, they go to see someone get beat." for the longest time, that never made sense to me. but look at the yankees in baseball, the celtics in basketball and the pats in football. people watch them hoping they get beat. how else could you explain the cheating, the ugly unis, the ugly helmets, the electric razor painted on the field, the cheating, the arrogant qb, darth vader as coach, etc.? for about the last 10 years i've refused to watch a patriots game, super bowls included. great video. keep up the good work.

[@averagecoasterenjoyer]

Wow, I've never thought of that, good thought by your dad

[@johnniemack8435]

And he still is coaching, amazing

[@6timechamp]

How come the league kept changing the rules just because the Patriots benefit from it. Rules are legal then you change them.

[@jmy.jr777]

I can’t believe this only has 108K views. This was so well made.

[@michaeljones-um8sn]

Spectre and Kraft are both from that protected tribe

[@bogdan9057]

Good name for that never heard.😊

[@viking956]

To this very day I still don't know what all the fuss is with respect to "Tape-Gate". So they videoed the opponents signals. So what? Why weren't their opponents smart enough to protect their signals or change them up from week-to-week? Getting all upset about this is kind of like seeing a guy reach down and pick up a $100 dollar bill lying on the sidewalk and accusing him of petty theft.

[@Createdplayer11]

Idk if it’s like that tbh

[@leo8049]

Huge fan of your videos! I'd love to see a video on draft picks who were going to be "busts" but are actually better players in the NFL than they were in college.. aka Justin Herbert, Mahomes, Josh Allen! Screw it maybe just make a doc on young QBs killing it in the NFL haha I'm not trying to tell you how or what videos to make at all, just a suggestion! Again huge fan!

[@DarkSideSports1]

Thanks for your support and your suggestion. I'll make sure to keep it in mind.

[@jamiemccray1383]

Great idea!! Don’t believe I’ve ever seen a video like that before 👍🏼

[@brandoelee6161]

@@jamiemccray1383 that’s because a bust is someone that doesn’t live up to expectations. So nobody is supposed to be a bust or expected to be a bust

[@slimmyhendrix94]

What a weirdo

[@jamiemccray1383]

@@brandoelee6161 Well maybe not a bust. But somebody who that maybe most fans thought were gonna bust, or at least thought were a very bad “reach” ya know? If I’m being honest, I thought Justin Herbert was a sure “bust” and I believe a lot of people thought that.

[@audiotomb]

The NFL corporate - give refs marching order during the games. Watch the 2018 Saints / Rams game. The PI within the 10 and the interception in overtime included a hold on Michael Thomas, a smack to Drew Brees helmet and an offensive lineman obviously held. The league in no way wanted the Saints (one of Roger’s worst nightmares PR wise) in the Superbowl with his cherished Patriots

[@averagecoasterenjoyer]

Just that PI alone could've proved it, but with all the other calls, yeah

[@poindextertunes]

wut? The Saints were absolutely gifted a SuperBowl after Katrina

[@NotInMyRepublic]

Belicheck should be treated like Barry Bonds, no HoF.

[@The-Endo-SymArmor]

Your Barry Bonds comment didn't age well

[@dangrimes5078]

​@@The-Endo-SymArmorHugh? Is BB going into the HOF?

[@dangrimes5078]

​@@The-Endo-SymArmorI guess he is. I honestly didn't know that.

[@SleepingLady-n4m]

If he gets in then Pete Rose should get in. Cheaters don't get honors in my opinion but the league covered up for him enough already probably so he won't be like a Pete Rose and they can let him in.

[@divinedelaware7541]

Been caught so many times and still no one speaks if it. He got a suspension, but Brady gonna go right in the HOF. They might not even bring it up. We'll see in 5 years

[@LembeckIsStaying]

People laugh at deflategate, but my man Brady wrecked his whole phone lol. That's when I knew lol. But hey, whatayya gonna do?

[@nathanmcdowell4731]

And he hasn’t been any good ever since…oh, wait

[@cliffwill27]

lol another person that doesn’t understand cold weather and its effects on air pressure

[@richardnunez3474]

I can't even state how very well put together this documentary is. I don't think there's one better, it is accurate to the tee. Thank you so much for the time and research involved. ❤

[@countryascanb5229]

The Patriots got so many breaks it unreal. The biggest break they ever got, I think was the play that began the tuck rule. Now everyone can watch that play and without a doubt, Tom Brady had done a pump fake and got hit and fumbled and the Raiders recovered. That was awful the way the Raiders got cheated.

[@JWhite-of4fk]

It's a rule, how is it an issue. Check the patriots vs rams game during that same season, same call

[@countryascanb5229]

@@JWhite-of4fk he did a pump fake, he didn't have any intention at all to throw the ball. That play was designed to pump fake one way and throw at a different target. If Brady had full intentions of throwing the ball instead of a pump fake, I get it. And frankly, I don't think there was a tuck rule in affect at that time. I think, not sure I would have to check and see that, that play right there was the reason for a tuck rule to go into affect. More or less what I am getting to is that Brady was not attempting a pass there

[@JWhite-of4fk]

@countryascanb oh, I'm sorry... you thought you knew what tom was doing...lol, sorry ur opinion doesn't matter

[@JWhite-of4fk]

Tuck rule was already on the books, what are u talking about

[@countryascanb5229]

@@JWhite-of4fk Ay, I like Brady and I was rooting for them to beat the Raiders. That doesn't mean I have to support them if they are in the wrong. You are right, there was a tuck rule during that time. But that was bs. If Brady had intentions on throwing the ball when that happened, I wouldn't have any complaints at all about the call. He did a pump fake and got hit a fumbled the ball is what I saw happened and you nor anyone else will convince me that that shouldn't have been a fumble. So let's just leave it at that, OK

[@EuroGuy85]

my favourite patriots filming part is when Bill made Hoyer watch hard knocks to imitate Goff's cadence and calls and then held them to 3 points! that was fantastic because he used NFL's films against them.

[@meatduck-ki3do]

That ain’t cheating that’s just genius

[@DerrickKnott-vl7gt]

Cheaters never win bud. Even if they did

[@ALLENL.-xz2gg]

Cheaters win all the time unless you get caught, that's why they call it cheating.

[@someguy8443]

@@ALLENL.-xz2ggIt's wisdom as old as time. I think he was speaking metaphorically.

[@RyanHelm]

OK so first off. Jags vrs pats game that year was rigged. Refs conveniently blew a fumble recovery for the jags that went for a touchdown and they blew the play dead. Jags didn't score points off that drive and pats won by 3. Also that year was the terrible no call in the saints vrs rams game. Saints clear that patriots team every year. Neither the pats nor rams deserved to be in that game, but the refs made sure they made it.

[@firstbradley3281]

Some people who don’t understand the scandal think the South Park episode where Cartman quotes Bill Belichick is exaggerated it’s really not

[@RoninGaijin]

Anyone who knows body language can tell Bill was lying when he broke eye contact while saying they never ever used that recording during a game. He looked away lol.

[@nathanmcdowell4731]

Anyone that knows “body language” wouldn’t make this definitive of a statement

[@finnburke2709]

well it wasn't illegal till the start of the 2007 season. Every team was doing it. By the way for context, filming opponents signals from the box in the stadium is not illegal, however, the Patriots were caught filming from the sidelines which is illegal. It wasn't the filming which is illegal as it is the location. And the Patriots were caught the very first game.

[@Spooky_515]

@@nathanmcdowell4731I don’t need to use body language. They used deflated balls, drones, stolen playbooks, out right recorded the Rams before the Super Bowl game and far to many other incidents to list. It doesn’t take a genius to know that when Billy opens his mouth he is lying

[@alwilson3204]

@@nathanmcdowell4731 Indeed they would. So expert, explain to us how body language works.

[@nathanmcdowell4731]

@@alwilson3204 there are indicators that suggest behavior which might be helpful in determining whether a person is being truthful, deceptive or are unsure when answering questions; however, these indicators are not the same for all people. A baseline must be determined of an individuals mannerisms, expressions, speech cadence, hand gestures, blink rate posture and other criteria in order to properly assess any indicators when analyzing body language. Even after a proper baseline is established and a full, thorough analysis has been completed, results can only suggest if deception is probable or not. Any analyst that makes a definitive conclusion, in either case, is most likely a hack unless they're providing their professional •opinion•. It's not a mathematical science. It's psychological, which is contains far too many variables to give conclusive results. Glad I could help😁

[@juancervantes4085]

Spygate Deflategate Orchids of Asiagate How many other gates were covered up or swept under the rug that we don't know about?

[@mattsullivan7363]

Your next Docu should be "The League that RIGGED THE GAME"

[@dodoubleg2356]

R.I.P. to a player who NEVER cheated...#32 🖤💛

[@lobotomyscam1051]

OJ!!! Just kidding, Juice will live forever.

[@dodoubleg2356]

@@lobotomyscam1051 😆

[@michaelmccarthy3930]

With all due respect to the great Franco Harris. The Steelers were voted the team that cheats the most and gets away with it.

[@dodoubleg2356]

@Michael McCarthy the Steelers were also voted the team with the most haters in the NFL. C'mon now, you're actually suggesting that ANY TEAM cheats more than the Patriots?!? 🤔🖤💛

[@jogendron6320]

Voted by who? Pats fans? The New England area? Tom Brady’s kids?

[@jpmnky]

If I was a teenager in the 00s and/or the 10s I’d hate NE too. But I saw how pitiful that franchise really was in the early 90s and saw the complete rebuild starting in 1993. I hated the Dallas Cowboys and their run from 92-95 felt like an eternity, and it was at 11-14. So being a kid during the 11-18 run had to be rough on young fans that hated NE in those years.

[@tonyVotino]

Well now it's KC so it's kinda the same. Seems like the big winners are the ones that implement cheating

[@USO7777]

There needs to be a 3rd party probe to investigate the officials, the commissioner, the players, and the coaches. Everyone involved in the league. Sports gambling needs to be shut down. The only thing that is going to change anything is legal action, people speaking up, and if we quit watching.

[@yankees29]

😂 yeah ok….

[@daltontroy26]

These documentaries are the ticket man these are great!

[@DarkSideSports1]

Thanks so much! Your support means a lot.

[@KingKel0034]

If it were any team but the Falcons, 28-3 probably would be a scandle too. Kyle Shannahan's playbook coming up missing was very suspicious.

[@cbreezy]

Was looking for this comment. They couldn’t score in the second half.

[@Spooky_515]

Don’t forget the drone flying over the practice field because it couldn’t have been the Pats. Of course it wasn’t….

[@nedames3328]

Atlanta's defense was gassed.

[@drizzle452]

Yea, and the rock was really tired against triple H in their last fight…or maybe it’s loosely scripted. You don’t think Vegas was built on honest “juice” money, do you?

[@JjJj-lx7xx]

Bro y'all just be lying for no reason Kyle is a choker when it matters dude didn't even know overtime rules like how u don't know the rules of the game when u lost Superbowl 51 😂😂

[@Nitrooszn]

Bro's still salty they didn't hand the ball the lynch

[@Ubermensch_201]

I'm a Giants fan and I'm still salty about that.. Has to be the dumbest play call in Super Bowl history

[@bryantwilliams6718]

This organization is a disgrace ..

[@adamdorgant9454]

You’re right about that, they’re like pro Football’s version of Watergate!!!

[@mikelaw5965]

Agreed!

[@todddanforth8853]

And they are unbelievably greedy. Their avarice knows no bounds.

[@adamdorgant9454]

@Coogan More like the Lance Armstrong of Football!!!!

[@PhilP8980]

The thing in the Ravens game was a joke. I remember screaming at the TV "THEY CANT DO THAT!!!!!!!!!!" They banned it immediately.

[@nathanmcdowell4731]

But they could do that, it was an exploitation of bad rules, but they reported eligible/ineligible the accepted ways

[@wtvdam]

Yes, they could do that. Blame it on your (and the Baltimore coaching staff) lack of knowledge of the rules. Sour grapes 😂😂

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@wtvdam Cheating is wrong boy

[@Ken-dk8ev]

@@Chuck_EL They didn’t cheat. They cleared it with the league beforehand. Don’t go by this KZbin channel alone.

[@28kcskate]

Deflatgate is when I found out teams use their own football on offense

[@genghiskhan1836]

The smirk on bill’s face when he exploited rule on DoG was classic. Evil genius

[@LeahIsHereNow]

Geniuses don’t have to cheat.

[@callofdoody21]

@@LeahIsHereNow6 rings

[@brown1winz655]

​@@callofdoody21asterisks

[@callofdoody21]

@@brown1winz655 🤣🤣 keep crying loser

[@stevenstocker7425]

@@brown1winz655”deflated footballs” in a game that they won 45-7

[@melduncan]

I feel like this is a safe space for abused NFL fans. I'm a Colts fan and there's....years of pain caused by the Pats. Some of it was them being cunning, some were loopholes that were technically legal, and some was outright fucking cheating.

[@BrunoJaws]

Im not a Colts fan but my gut told me the Patriots cheated the Colts even Manning would not discuss anything football in Patriots locker rooms. He knew something was up back then they were all over his calls.

[@choosecarefully408]

@@james352 So, losing one's chance to win a Superbowl first is the right way to go about it? Who knew? That's the point everyone semi-defending the Pats here are missing: had this been the reverse, had _Bill_ been cheated out of a playoff game, what millennium do you think it would be before The Hoodie stfu about it? He's cheating, he knows he is, or he'd have treated it like those delays of games on punts & just showed it to the league & said "it doesn't break any rules."

[@vmaninblackv]

And Brady isn't half the QB Manning ever was!

[@PhevieWonder]

The annoying thing about the Deflategate is basic high school chemistry explains that they weren’t deflated. Going from a heated locker room to a cold and rainy field of course made the balls deflate. The fact that even Bill Nye didn’t understand how Ideal Gas Law was calculated (he used Celsius instead of Kelvin) is just embarrassing.

[@akech24]

physics but yeah. 3/4 of the colts balls were deflated as well but they hunted brady for adjusting his footballs even though peyton and aaron rodgers both came out saying they also ask the ball boys to over or under inflate their footballs

[@gavinrector6505]

I think the guy made this vid is a dolphins fan lol

[@drzal8553]

Ummm ... the guys who were deflating the balls for Brady got busted in their text msg exchanges - did you not see that part? And why did Brady destroy his cell phone during the investigation - did you not see that part? And why doesn't this deflating occur in other cold weather cities like Chicago, KC, Green Bay, NY & Buffalo? Fun Fact: current Jag Coach Doug Pederson actually discovered this NE-only deflated ball phenomenon and reported it to the NFL several yrs earlier when he was a back-up QB to Dan Marino and nothing was ever done about it.

[@RD-BRAUNSIN]

I knew that they were cheaters but i didn't realize that it was this bad WOW how is Billicheat still a coach

[@chromasis10]

Because he’s the best coach of all time

[@fordid42]

@@chromasis10 Did he really need to do any of this, though? No, he had a pile of ungodly talent playing for him, they could win without any of this crap.

[@deltacrowne3441]

because he is white and has connections who will defend him!

[@andrejbogdanov2816]

@@chromasis10 no matter how good you are - if you're a human garbage piece of shit, you're gonna cheat

[@jackzeldon2883]

2004 Phila was one of the most Dominant teams of that Decade & the Patriots cheated their ballz off in SB 39 & the NFL busted them, punished them but covered it up by destroying all the evidence..... When hila returned in SB 52 Doug Pederson ran fake practices KNOWING the Patriots would 100% still be Cheating..... After SB 39 all the Phila players complained they knew their plays before the snap Patriots are 100% Fugazi & have won Zero SB's & should absolutely be stripped of every one......

[@gemineyethenine7480]

This story should’ve started with the tuck rule in 2001. Raiders were robbed.

[@Allenpricemusic]

Shoulda start with the snowplow game

[@flogette]

Incomplete forward pass

[@averagecoasterenjoyer]

Yeah. It's also suspicious because if the ruling was that his arm was moving forward, then that's fine, but they made up an entire rule for 1 play that happened to start the biggest dynasty ever... hmm...

[@TheSiipp]

Agreed

[@peytonmanning7326]

​@@averagecoasterenjoyeryeah and both of mahomes' sb's are suspect too so....

[@chadkroeger6907]

I'm not a pats fan but the part about loopholes isn't cheating, it's being smart.

[@jeremywj]

You're right, but they combined it with actual cheating most of the time... if not all the time. I'm of the believe that the Patriots cheated to some extent in every game Brady ever played for them.

[@deVrieco]

Like people that don’t pay their taxes? It’s “smart?” No. Thats cheating the system.

[@sonofyah8650]

I am a long time Patriots fan and after the 3rd championship I felt like something was wrong specially with the receivers it just looked rigged or staged 😮

[@distanthope9153]

"I felt like something was wrong" Do you read your horoscope too? Grow up.

[@illphil82yo]

You're right it is rigged and scripted. For sports betting and other interests.

[@yankees29]

They knew exactly what plays the defensive teams were running that’s why. 😂 Combine that with the fact that Brady was awesome and you get the Patriots

[@sonofyah8650]

@@yankees29 go back to bed

[@MacJones-cc3yn]

​@@sonofyah8650 you look like you don't own a bed 😂😂

[@jdotboyz7927]

Amazing video bro!

[@DarkSideSports1]

Glad you liked it!

[@Hutchman05]

As someone from NE, even we, the fans don’t know what goes on inside bill’s mind😂

[@oldude979]

Ryan Hutchins Yeah, but you don't care as long as you win. BUT IF THINGS HAPPENED AGAINST PATS YOU WOULD BE FURIOUS AND IRATE ,SCREAMING AT THE NFL

[@KaizenNedyak]

@@oldude979 that was a fan should and would do, a fan supports their team any way possible

[@oldude979]

@@KaizenNedyak OK, so you are saying that fans have a right to be irrational, partisan, unreasonable, illogical and inconsistent in support of their team. You're Absolutely right! Which means that other people have a right to call them out for being irrational, partisan, unreasonable, irrational and inconsistent

[@TheJExperiment1]

​@@KaizenNedyak I'm 1 year late but hopefully 1 year gave you enough time to mature and realize that what you are describing is a cult mentality, not a fans mentality, and we already have too much of that irate cult spewing bullshit these days... We don't need it in the NFL.... Think for yourself

[@tiptoeurchin]

In Nascar , for the most part, they look back fondly on cheaters of the past and how creative they would get. Fuel line that held 2 gallons of fuel, expanding fuel tanks, disintegrating restrictor plates and on and on. Maybe it comes from Nascar originating from outlaws always looking to one up the law but the difference is interesting.

[@jessesmith-garcia5313]

Dynasties are NEVER FORMED with clean hands, history tells this EVERY SINGLE TIME!

[@dylanr8481]

Edmonton Oilers with Wayne Gretzky, top 5 sport Dynasty of all time. They didn't cheat.

[@andrenguyen5194]

Than that would mean that the Steelers are dirty, the 49ers are dirty, the Cowboys are dirty and the Chiefs are dirty, not just the Patriots.

[@savagesooner4891]

Funny thing is, after deflategate TB12 wins 3 more SB’s…

[@Emperor_1971]

Because the nfl favorite him just watch the sb vs falcons n the one vs Seahawks you will see now mahomes is the next Brady

[@rocketfishx3474]

It's not that funny. The dude cheated. The NFL has said he is a cheater. If you feel that it's funny that a cheater wins then the joke is on you

[@richieowens98]

He was given a lot of Superbowls I won't argue that. I watched a lot of his games and I can't say Brady ever won a game without the refs

[@YourGrannysThong]

Are you saying the Pats were guilty of mathgate, allowing Brady to play 127 consecutive games in 3 consecutive seasons? 🤔

[@Rick-jz1vs]

@@YourGrannysThong there isnt that many games for any team in 3 seasons in nfl

[@MrPyroguru]

What about Super Bowl 51 The Comeback Did Donald Trump pay for a dive there? What about Kyle Shanahan's Missing Playbook? What about the drones flying over the walk through practice of Falcons? What about Matthew Ryan's headset malfunctioning during the Super Bowl? I saw the video of him saying this during the football game. It had since disappeared.

[@frankfurlacker5219]

After the Falcons lost to the Niners in the 2012 NFC Championship Arthur Blank was overheard complaining about the loss and wondering when it was going to be their time to go to the big game? I guess the NFL told him “Ok you can go but you have to lose in a heartbreaking loss to Tom Brady and the Patriots.” Hahaha

[@averagecoasterenjoyer]

Kind of related but I have a pet peeve when people say that Tom Brady should've been the 1st pick in the 2000 draft... 1. Hindsight, obviously 2. His physical attributes were not that good (turn-off for many teams) 3. Any other team, he's not doing good, he was in a perfect scenario with Bledsoe getting injured. Put him on the Jets, and he wouldn't have been the same (could just be a hunch though, but that's what I think)

[@skitrow3262]

I wouldn’t say it was rigged but they definitely took advantage of things that would go unnoticed at the time.

[@FilthyCasual268]

At least we won't have to put up with Brady anymore pretty soon, just as soon as the HGH stops working....

[@flogette]

If by put up with Brady you mean winning I'd agree but you will always put up with him being the GOAT.

[@Gremlack13]

If there is such an open addition and knowledge of cheating, then there should be lifetime bans for such egregious activities over such a long period of time.

[@justarandompersononyt1836]

just yeet that club already!

[@thecarguy4304]

🙄

[@axelfoley2061]

Every one of their titles should have an asterisk next to them

[@sippycup3395]

Kraft looks like he’s full of sin in the thumbnail lol

[@cameronmays480]

That's the look of a man that had the vision to take a team from the verge of relocation and turn it into one of the biggest empires in professional sports

[@James-zq6fq]

I'm surprised you can see his finges with ALL THOUGHS RINGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@JECZ23]

He looks like he needs another massage. At his fav rub & tug spot. 🤣😂🤣

[@taym510Oak]

No 🧢 😂

[@todddanforth8853]

Did Kraft's vision include underhanded tricks, stealing documents and filming signals and play calls???

[@HototoManyGoats]

18:51 127 games in 3 years? I've been missing a lot of football.

[@JohnAnthony0857]

😂😂😂

[@Charlotte-rp6ur]

Why is Brady allowed to be a commentator given his shady history?

[@richieowens98]

It's funny how people used to say brady could read defenses so well. Turns out he was just cheating and knew what the defense was doing before they even lined up.

[@meechie5k58]

Still crazy that these dudes actually tampered with on field equipment and Brady ONLY got 4 games off. Meanwhile, Calvin Ridley placed a bet on a game and got suspended an entire season. Two wrongs don’t make a right, but c’mon man thats just ridiculous.

[@akcrono5481]

Still crazy that people actually still think the Pats tampered with balls lol

[@DuckiesDad08]

Oh nooo. 750k fine for a billion dollar club and lose a pic on a stacked team. So suffering!

[@jimmyw7291]

A little note to the narrator of this segment. Whenever you read a score you always read the score from highest to lowest. You would say the Lions 28 the Packers 7. Not the Packers 7 in the lines 28 whoever is winning is announced first

[@shandyhilling7889]

Great quality man, good job, from a doc junkie it's not given out lightly

[@AfroKing24]

Sounds to me more like they just took advantage of the rules, i wouldn’t call that cheating.

[@dwaynecollins4974]

Haaa ha ha ha 🤣

[@panoskakkavas4022]

I really like your sense of irony 😉

[@TstanDa-Man]

Every team was doing what Bill was doing. Why do you think Eric Mangini the former Pats coach and Jets head coach who informed the league of what Belichick was doing has never gotten another Job in the NFL??? All the teams were mad

[@ir5682]

For real man

[@robsands6656]

He literally reads the rule that he broke.

[@artsilva]

So basically those six rings are dirty and the history books should have an * besides those winning seasons and championships especially.

[@MrAgers]

Yes. Because fans of other teams are mad.

[@MacJones-cc3yn]

​@@MrAgers It has nothing to do with fans being mad 🤦‍♂️ it's about the integrity of the game.

[@devious187]

Haters gon hate... Sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet though. It sucks when everyone's cheating (filming/stealing signals was a common practice for a lot of teams) but you get caught, you end up becoming the scapegoat. Mangini "caught" the Patriots cheating because he had been involved with the same stuff when he was in New England, so who's the bad guy? Mangini had no problems with stealing team's signals until it was HIS team's signals getting stolen. As for the Colts and Deflategate? They lost 45-7, I'm sure it was just because of air pressure. Get fuckin real. The Patriots filled their balls with the exact psi the league specified, and they knew that the cold air would cause the balls to lose pressure... Of course Brady knew, how could be not notice the balls were softer? But this is not cheating, but exploiting the rules, and a coach's job is to find advantages where they can and exploit them. Every team does it, what about the Colts pumping in crowd noise over their PA system? Every team "cheats" but the Patriots won a lot so everyone blames them.

[@LembeckIsStaying]

Crowd noise and stealing plays are not the same. And definitely not manipulating equipment.

[@gilvasquez1317]

​@@LembeckIsStayingartificial crowd noise would be a much bigger advantage

[@devious187]

@@LembeckIsStaying oh so it's ok to cheat (artificial crowd noise) as long as you don't really cheat (manipulating equipment)... this proves that it's just haters hating, how can you criticize one team for cheating and defend another for doing basically the same thing? Cheating is cheating, and anything that gives your team an unfair advantage is cheating, period.

[@Chuck_EL]

​@@devious187cry

[@Progfan2010]

0:32 I wonder if Skip Bayless could address this statement now and admit that his GOAT cheated his way to "greatness".

[@SuterBowling]

Jim Harbaugh saw this documentary.

[@markduncan9937]

So, the billionaire owner of a billion dollar NFL franchise got caught or was implicated in the act of cheating and they got fined a couple of million dollars and lost some draft picks. Yet, Reggie Bush was stripped of his Heisman and USC forfeited national titles because he got caught breaking rules. As a Niners fan, I loved when Joe Montana said, " at least nobody touched my balls before or during any game". I believe that there is only two moments in Brady's career that truly show his greatness. The first moment was when he came on the field replacing Drew Bledsoe and the second was his Superbowl during his first season in TB. However, the rest should have a giant Asterix next to them.

[@AZDC99]

Wow, Joe Montana had the guts to say that about someone who idolized him openly pretty much? That's some harsh honesty, ha ha . (Joe Cool was sometimes a nightmare for my beloved redskins. How we got out of that 1983-84 NFC Championship against him after jumping off on to 21-0 lead against them after his comeback.. thank God my team survived it!

[@NicholasSaliva]

It's easy to break league records when you know what the defense is going to do. Dude had cheats on most of his career.

[@Lowerclergy]

How was him filling in for bledsoe great? They still lost the game and he just did what a back up QB does when the starter goes down... Go out and play QB

[@userYoucantfixstupid]

without gronk n brown added, and a defence of A1 quality, would brady really have shown his so called greatness ? i believe he went to tampa simply cuz they were his best chance at his own superbowl. bucs couldnt have won without gronk n brown with brady alone

[@provosta]

Because you don’t like him/NE, and you were with Montana while he personally carried out the full NFL investigation into ‘deflategate’? If you possess the time, interest, and sincerity for it, I’ll be happy to show you how pathetic the Wells inquiry was. Spygate? Obvious cheating; Deflate? One of the shoddiest excuses imaginable for a supposed finding of fact

[@gregorythomassr5485]

Everybody cheats some but New England constantly gets caught and gets free passes. Honestly can't respect any of their accomplishments. Great work Young Man

[@flogette]

20 year Dynasty

[@drizzle452]

It would discredit the credibility of the NFL

[@christianpoint0888]

Great watch & very well done !

[@goranmatuzalem9574]

Brady played 127 games straight, in span of 3 years. amazing

[@cbreezy]

Matt Ryan was an iron man.

[@Spooky_515]

How many? lol

[@drizzle452]

He played 42 games a year?

[@goranmatuzalem9574]

dudes, that was said in documentary. I'm just saying it's amazinf feat 🤣🤣

[@alwilson3204]

That would be more than amazing - impossible.

[@johnchedsey1306]

The thing that has always bugged me about the Patriots is that they never needed to venture into cheating. They were always a great team and there was likely very little added benefit to the shenanigans. Instead they tarnished what was the most impressive 2 decades in NFL history. Just dumb. (now bending the rules, such as legally burning time off the clock using penalties is just funny and I have no problem with that)

[@dwaynecollins4974]

As far as burning time off the clock goes it was hilarious to watch one of belichick's former players who is now coach use those tactics against him much to belichick's anger LOL

[@richarddavis896]

So true about other teams do and did the same things the patriots do.every player and team who has sour grapes and hates the patriots always take the moral high road acting like "OH WE NEVER DID ANYTHING LIKE THAT.WE ARE CLEAN AS A CHURCHGOER" such B.S. every team in NFL history employs tactics to gain an edge.after spygate the hit was out for the patriots.they were under the microscope.thats why everything they did seems nefarious and malicious.because they were constantly being subjugated to harassment nationally.its such B.S videos like these take away the accomplishments from all those players who played for the patriots from 2000-2019. That's unfair to them.how about I say this.john elwsy,Steve young,Joe Montana,Peyton Manning,Aaron Rodgers,Brett favre,pat MAHOMES,Josh Allen,Troy aikmen,Lamar Jackson,Eli Manning...etc.. these guys all have cheated because they are or were winners.sounds kind of absurd.

[@stimihendrix3404]

@* RED RANGER * yeah honestly its like the blacksox scandal, or the steroid era, i can guarantee if any of the other teams won there would be some type of scandal. because bill didn’t learn this stuff from nobody.

[@choosecarefully408]

@@dwaynecollins4974 Mangini is likely *_The Reason_* every coach that has come out of Bellicheck's system since has been a bust, the hypocritical Harbaugh amongst 'em. The tactic requires this: you get someone inept because quality people would be sickened by the prospect of cheating to win. Let's take this further: how many one on one meetings did Bill & Tom have over the years? Tom's greatest talent is reading defenses kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4a0kGaNfZiXhdE. Everything else he does relies on that. (I disagree with the initial comment here: we can't know how great any of the Patriot teams were because they had HUGE advantages through cheating that go beyond merely knowing plays. Cheating leads to TOP, moving the ball farther downfield even when you _don't_ score etc.). The real problem here is the public's attitude. We like an underdog. Just not as much as we like a cheater getting away with certain things. But that depends on who the cheaters are too, eh? If we found that _Mike _*_Tomlin_* was cheating... See the problem now?

[@jackzeldon2883]

No they were not.... Every one of those NE teams were azz..... 2001 Rams, 2004 Eagles were Monster teams & were cheated & the NFL knew it

[@stormkelleh]

How is Bill allowed to even still coach?

[@domonicdecoco2410]

Because he’s done nothing wrong. After the tape scandal, Mike Shanahan was one of the coaches Goodell sought advice from as to how severe Bill’s punishment would be. Shanahan looked him dead in the eye and said “If I had known about it, I’d had done it too”

[@TheXpertGenius83]

@@domonicdecoco2410Thanks not true. Rodger Goodell and Robert Kraft were close friends. After this their friendship wasn’t as close anymore. Rodger tried to sweep it under the rug but that made it worse. That was him trying to do his friend a solid by letting Bill to continue coaching

[@domonicdecoco2410]

@@TheXpertGenius83 That makes absolutely no sense. Why would Goodell help the Patriots after bridges had already been burned between the 2 ?

[@adrianwsmith]

Kraft is actually CEO of the NFL, or may as well be.

[@MutedGrowl]

Aaron Rodgers said every ball he used was over inflated.

[@rickyschultz6866]

If you have to cheat to win, does that make you a winner?

[@zentify_23]

Well the nfl isn’t really a sport anymore it’s more of a show nowadays. Look at all these close games nowadays on Christmas Eve so they can get people to tune in to the games🤦‍♂️

[@johngancarcik5682]

It's a depressing honestly the nfl should be sport not a show not some staged stuff