Beating Terran with MASS DRONES | WORKERS ONLY to Grandmaster #1 - StarCraft 2

Here's WORKERS ONLY to Grandmaster Episode 1! Players are volunteers from low Silver to low Gold (2200 - 2700 MMR). They do not know what's coming, but they're aware it's something for YT.
HOW TO VOLUNTEER: Hop onto the discord to find out more / discord
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[@PiGstarcraft]

Cheers for support guys :D If you want to volunteer for youtube challenges (you won't know which) or standard B2GM, head to the discord channel where I will be calling for players once in a while discord.gg/sCTYquEd

[@Willdreynolds870621]

I think the next challenge should be no control groups

[@VeryBadPlayerTV]

Surprised you didn't hard rush 1/1, 2/2, 3/3 upgrades so your drones have atleast a bit of somethign to work with

[@Kr-oy2bo]

Confused... didn't you recently put out a couple videos criticizing smurfing, even for challenges?

[@2639theboss]

​@@Kr-oy2bo Why do you think hes asking for volunteers, and why do you think this was a custom game? If you watch the first five minutes of the video, OR read this comment, OR read the other comments before yours complimenting PIG about his approach, you might answer your own questions.

[@alzarath6356]

@@VeryBadPlayerTV Only armor affects workers, btw

[@seanyoung8738]

I'm so happy to see you trying out the volunteer players approach for these challenges!

[@whatanerd7628]

Wut?! pig not smurfing?! ... I thought it was all kool to smurf and cheat under GM. It makes the game so much more fun for you and we never care about our opponents..! (exluding the ad revenue gained from exploiting them, We are thankful for that part!) The game is NOT dying just cuz most people cheat and smurf..! There is still 30k player on every week!

[@treasureboxgaming7109]

I was going to say this, pretty hard to find someone with integrity and respect for the game they love! Thanks PIG

[@Evirthewarrior]

I'm not this is like watching a sports team practice, knowing there was no consequence to anything, it is meaningless.

[@treasureboxgaming7109]

@@Evirthewarrior There was never going to be any consequence. So what if he lost on his smurf account. The only thing that smurfing would have done in the ladder was be shit for the people that are just trying to have fun after whatever day they've had with a fair match. It's why they joined ranked.

[@Evirthewarrior]

@@treasureboxgaming7109 I just do not agree fundamentally. if it is not on the ladder or for money, there are absolutely zero stakes and not entertaining because I know it is just a practice game with someone that is not really invested in the game.

[@egg465]

Hi Pig! Gadget here (3rd opponent). When this happened I just started playing again. I didn't play ladder since WoL, only played the HotS and LotV campaigns and haven't paid attention to the game since. I only had my placement matches in, so my MMR was not yet set properly. It had dropped down a bit since this match. I volunteered for Pig's new B2GM challenge as a low MMR opponent. So I thought no silly stuff would happen in this game. So I thought the best thing to do was just focus on my build (the basic Pig Terran B2GM build) and just macro as well as I could. At the time I was very pleased with how it went actually. I think I forgot a few things, but that's to be expected, for example the +1 upgrade. When I moved out I just a moved to about two thirds across the map, as Pig thought me :D and went back to macroing. When I realised my army was caught it was already almost dead. I hadn't played an opponent that uses the same color as Pig did before. So when the first drones came into my base I was very confused. I remember thinking "those drones have a strage color, are they some sort of hallucination that I didn't know was possible?" and was completely thrown offguard. I also didn't know that those mineral patches were so easily removed. So I was even more confused when a shitload of drones came from that angle. At that point I honestly didn't know what to do anymore. I barely had an economy, most my units were gone. My tank was the MVP for Pig, and I will never forget his treachery. So, all in all, I actually think I played okay. My build was going better than ever before and I obviously never had any hope of winning. After sobbing in the shower for a few hours all sense of humiliation wore off and I had a good chuckle about the match. Was very fun to play! Thank you Pig for this lesson in humilty :)

[@PiGstarcraft]

thanks for being a good sport mate!

[@railgunrandy]

I think this is one of the few builds that would even make Florencio blush

[@Robothuck]

If someone figures out to make mass hellbats its gonna be BBQ on the menu for years

[@thefrub]

What a crazy challenge! I'm noticing that every video you seem a lot more comfortable playing and casting at the same time instead of going full Gamer Mode ™ with the tongue out

[@tbone8358]

You must be careful. Of thwomping hellhounds. Azureblade49

[@PhillStone]

29:35 'The secret to beating Terran is getting on top of their production' 🤣

[@daBulgarian]

So this is what you were up to! >:) GG and great job from the volunteers!

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

Nice! Drones get capparace upgrades. I think you will have to relax the “no spine crawlers” rule further on. It will make things more interesting

[@NM-rz6tq]

Agreed - I think anything a drone can make is fair game. I also think you should be allowed to build a couple of zerglings early game so you can hide your build even more but not be allowed to attack with them. Confuse your opponent by losing your first two zerglings really cheaply. You should also be able to build fake buildings like roach warrens, banelings nests etc all as red herrings.

[@dude502]

nah i disagree, this is way mor interesting then just a spinecrawler rush

[@earthbind83]

Maybe we can tweak the rules after he hits a wall with the current rules and see how much further he can go then.

[@DirtySoap]

Drones can become buildings and buildings can release broodlings. You could use your extra resources to upgrade all of your hatcheries to lairs and hives for more health. Also could build evo chambers to wall and when they die they'll release broodlings. That way if the opponent kills your buildings, they'll get punished by spores, spines, broodlings, and drones. Oh and mass overseers to spam changelings to be extra annoying.

[@PiGstarcraft]

haha great ideas!

[@devinm524]

didn't even research burrow, what a scrub haha great vid, thanks for uploading! one more suggestion, I think its interesting but might violate your self imposed rules but... can you make vipers to pull the enemies into your drone mobs?

[@DirtySoap]

@@PiGstarcraft yeah I guess the idea is that if you have to base trade, you'll have sooo much more stuff that it takes them longer and they hurt themselves while doing it.

[@itistoday]

Yeah @@PiGstarcraft you didn't build any spines in this series. If you use these ideas (broodlings, spines, etc.) maybe you could take on even higher rated players - that would be awesome to watch!

[@ashtonrendon600]

If you want to keep some of the authenticity of the ladder experience, you could have a place for people to volunteer for videos (literally just videos, nothing specific), that way they’re still volunteering but without knowing what series they are volunteering for. All they know is they’re volunteering to be in a PiG video/series, but which one they are selected for is a mystery to them.

[@PiGstarcraft]

that's exactly what happened. The only thing is KaldisRelm has been around for a lot of the different crazy challenges I've been preparing/messing around with so he was able to figure out what the restriction was

[@ashtonrendon600]

Ahhh I see, well awesome video regardless. Very chad of you to try to do these series in an ethical way PiG

[@egg465]

Gadget (3rd opponent) here. I thought I signed up as a low MMR opponent for B2GM, so I completely unaware of the challenge. It wass great fun though!

[@wearedoomed9374]

"This is also my base now, im allowed to defend it" lmao🤣

[@dmitrylozenko7123]

Oh my lord! This is so cool! :) Use more tools please: droplords with speed, drons with borrow, +3 armor, proxy hatch on their base + spores, etc :) Thanks!

[@Cheesycake-sc9co]

Sc players: if you calculate the scale value of workers you can ..... Pig: value?

[@antthehckyplayer]

im so ready to watch this fail against like a gold 1 :D seriously good challenge concept and execution; I'm wishing the best for this series format

[@PiGstarcraft]

Will have to loosen the restrictions and harass more in the earlygame to get through gold and plat! Hopefully can mix in some crazy rushes and proxy hatcheries to get it through diamond league!

[@dexketristo2349]

@@PiGstarcraft Let us know if you make it that far, this build is amazing and equally hilarious! xD

[@BlackBoxEnte]

7:18 makro drone build. I lost it. Just great PiG

[@sferree28]

I love it man. Going full cheeky chad. I'm laughing but I'm also crying with your opponents. Gotta be a devastating loss from just workers 🤣

[@IOtheFifth]

> I can't believe it's working Workers, by definition, work.

[@BB-lm7cs]

When you break into their base, just fill it with hatcheries until they can't move around. Birth more drones from them!

[@PiGstarcraft]

haha good idea

[@lynk5902]

Super excited you are doing this by volunteer!!

[@soone69]

"Oh nonono not a tank on the highground? Don't do that!" - Pig, 6:00 against a Terran. :')

[@anotherplatypus]

That map control was a thing of beauty. Can your oppenent ever clean you up in early mid-game without you just re-expanding after their army moves on? I'd love to see you take the kid gloves off allow yourself to attack with queens and spine crawlers... just to see how far you can take the build if you play your heart out.

[@lupusprobitas]

I was a bit worried, but I am happy to see you found another solution than smurfing. Kudos for that. 🙂

[@vexienroe]

Dude I'm so good at not scouting and having no game plan I'm perfect for pigs insanity

[@SH-os1ck]

Spine crawls should count as long as you my rush them...if you make enough bases to get creep there, you can have spines!! But the creep must be touching your home base!

[@karolpadiasek5461]

27:34 four queens - you lose Pig! :D

[@stephencraig3176]

I've done this challenge (not even with queens) and not doing the super early drone rush (definitely doing drone harrashment though) . But i've won vs some diamond, highest was a diamond 1 player and i nearly nearly got a m3 player but he started hard turtling on 1base making tanks after i overran his natural :( , the unit lost at the end of that game insane :D

[@nightelf4161]

this looked so fun

[@UtmostOutdoors]

Epic series!

[@Jon_an_engineer]

I'm looking forward to any and all drone doom drops

[@SH-os1ck]

No way this works. This series is going to be short

[@mwperk02]

Thumbnail almost made it look like the bunker had a flamethrower.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

Ohhh, i just had a dirty idea In one of your other challenges, try fake a mass drones build, let them scout it and hardwall, then do a rapid tech switch to your actual build (probably stick the tech in corner bases so they don't scount) and shatter them with whatever other stupidity you have going on.

[@hanneswiggenhorn2023]

I think from a terran perspective, an army made out of a couple hellbats and medivacs could absolutely destroy any hope of winning a drone only game

[@TheMuffinman191]

Marines alone would do it. You can’t kill 20 stim marines with drones, it’s just not gonna happen

[@teeee8534]

sometimes grandmaster tend dont know how to respond correctly , because they busy micro but forgot think how to respond

[@plunderersparadise]

Ye, but how the hell you gonna 'scout' the drones only game when you are playing vs the masters player LOL

[@TheMuffinman191]

@@plunderersparadise That man only has a pool. He’s only got 3 options and all of them die to marines.

[@plunderersparadise]

@@TheMuffinman191 yes, but he doesnt know if there is a roach warren followup, cause PiG knows how to deny scouting

[@Iseenoobpeoples]

Amazing gameplay!

[@Necrocidal]

Lol imagine if that new guy submits the replay to IODIS

[@ricks8127]

1. Build nydus close to producing hatches for quicker fill rates (as in core 3 + 3-6 assisting) 2. Harass earlier with proxy hatch - will look & feel like they shut down your cheese (while you macro up behind it) 3. Drone stack in an early push (pre-tank) to get their workers off the line (loss of mining time is a bigger loss to them)

[@rogirek3362]

36:25 "Reactor on the tech lab" That's illegal.

[@SwarmSSBM]

Good luck with the series

[@lynk5902]

Remember to use dropperlords to drop onto tanks, or drop drones into their army to draw friendly fire!

[@boreduser12]

Spines and more queens for defense. Spines for contain should be allowed too.

[@Kingcob7]

as someone who watches every uthermal and mana video you have lured me in with this premise Mr. Pig :D

[@anincompoop25]

Can you go mass overseer to contaminate buildings? What about dropper lords? I feel like dropper lords might be critical to this challenge

[@BaufenBeast]

Dropping drones on tanks could actually do a lot of damage.

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

I think you should be allowed to use spine crawlers only after getting capparace lvl 3. That would be balanced

[@PiGstarcraft]

lol i like it

[@dansettle4931]

Keeping Up With The Drones' - new name for the series.

[@beetlepoundcarrot6412]

Breaking a noob's spirit 101 🤣

[@buzzrot]

Excellent challenge vid. Defs wouldn't work much in higher leagues but fun to see it work in the lower ones

[@billmozart7288]

This is the silliest strategy I've ever seen

[@TheKlep]

Really fun!!!

[@TripWithTheMoon]

Didn't think this would be possible vs Gold Players. Impressive.

[@blakedurrant9399]

This might be the dumbest challenge Ive ever seen and I effin' love it. Zero chance I would die to this as a geriatric plat casual. That said, I'm quite familiar with the Devil's lettuce and I'm not so sure I could keep my shit together well enough to micro against Pig with 200 effin' drones in my base 😂

[@User-zh8rp]

Thw number of times queen says "our drones are under attack" will highly surpass the hours PiG has in StarCraft2

[@henry_room]

Uthermal got ton of subs w this type of format so hopefully it helps pig’s channel too ❤

[@skipp3252]

I think more than covering every possible Nydus, just getting helbat + medivac would seal the deal. haha GGs man :D

[@PiGstarcraft]

haha yeah a blob of hellbat medivac would be a nightmare

[@DistrictTerra]

Not me yelling "just build some fucking medivacs" in the second game

[@PiGstarcraft]

haha yeah those constant nydus screeches were overwhelming his brain

[@DistrictTerra]

@@PiGstarcraft hope his volume was way up haha

[@OvidiuBadita1]

You could also send a crap ton of changelings with your drones just for the memes...

[@akakamaz7382]

OUR DRONES ARE UNDER ATTACK

[@aussj4link214]

This is exactly what I was talking about with winning with workers.

[@OldSpaghettifactory89]

If they wall off you could nydus worm drones into their base. Would it be smart? Probably not, but is any of this lol Oh spoke to early in the vid he nydus's lol.

[@sakesaurus1706]

Imagine such a thing as a worker timing attack

[@sethwright8589]

4 QUEENS?! 😱 25:22

[@vexienroe]

That moment when all the nydus unload at once is like cock roaches swarming over eachother man thats unnerving. And its just drones!

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

I want to play against this actually. Must be so satisfying having 2-3 colossi roast all of these drones xD Or some ultras :O

[@asdfqwerty9241]

I think a single 3/3 ultralisk could beat an entire maxed out 200/200 supply of drones by itself.

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

@@asdfqwerty9241 There's a video of an 3/3 maxed ultralisk beating 500 probes. So yeah, the ultra wins easily. Although the 3/3 is somewhat important, because if the ultra has 4 armour, the worker's damage is doubled (from 0.5 per hit to 1 per hit) and with 3 armour, workers deal 2 dmg per hit, which then might get the ultra killed vs 200 drones actually. Not sure if it does.

[@Necrocidal]

I love how metal-league players don't realise medivacs can pick units up

[@CloudOfDarkness9999]

I thought you were going to do a more normal B2GM series? last week you did the Ling bane build. Are you still going to continue that B2GM series? Thanks piG! Fun stuff nonetheless!

[@PiGstarcraft]

hey mate that's on my coaching channel! first ep vs bronze/silvers is up kzbin.info - there'll be a new episode every week, just recorded one yesterday on stream for gold league

[@zer0nix]

Funny enough, the way you are playing is kind of what I expected from the ai the first time I played StarCraft 1 so very long ago. Tons of bases and seemingly infinite grunts to blast! I'd build up a massive army while defending against waves of attacks (I know this is not the right way to play, multiplayer came later) only to walk into desolate, mined out bases with multiple non unit producing buildings. Ironically, your strategy is the ultimate comp stomp strat that many noobs expect to face after they first install the game!

[@tacochaos5127]

That was hilarious

[@ricks8127]

I wonder if you could use enough nydus to block him out of his own main...

[@blaskbulwark2881]

Those drones had larvae!

[@BukovTervicz]

This is the stupidest and funniest idea ever, lol

[@tbone8358]

I think you should be allowed to have 20 queens as long as you’re using them for base defense mostly and not attacking with them directly to the opponents base - EDIT maybe add a queen per league ranking up? Or something like that. Definitely will be interesting to see this play out

[@Shielded10]

1 queen per hatch, but you can only move 3 at a time from their spawn location.

[@monorail0]

Once he has so many hatches seems like Queens just subtract from supply that could be used for drones

[@pirds102010]

are you allowed to move foreward with spines and spores?

[@Necrocidal]

With enough nydus's, can you block the bottom of his ramp, or block the depots at the top, so his pathing gets messed up when trying to amove up and down?

[@splavasv]

Crazy ideas: nydus, dropperlords, proxy hatch drone rush :)

[@LounoirRecords]

i don't think i would be able to play this amazing strat because i'd be laughing all the time how dumb it is :D

[@lynk5902]

I think I would advocate that you are allowed 1 queen per hatchery.

[@JonNeimeister]

I think you should also be allowed to inject one proxy hatch if you make one lol. Drone flood from inside the wall?

[@gfg1651]

If you play in customs you coud use observer plus or wcs gameheart so you have the worker lost in the replay that might be good for thumpmails

[@velocirapper]

Ah a classic BS2GM

[@nightbanegodnomadicdruid6698]

This feels like the most disrespectful swarm host play I've ever seen.... it's pure comedy!

[@josephbraun7984]

I think it could be fun to play a workers only game where both sides can only make workers. It could be a cool challenge for some pro players to face off in too.

[@Talanic]

Proposition: You may build spine crawlers, but you may not MOVE spine crawlers. Spine crawlers are allowed to uproot but they can only be placed where they were originally built. That way you can wall with them if you want to, and open it temporarily if you really want to. Gives you another option for holding off harassing units.

[@vjastrix]

seems like hellbat mine would defend this nicely.

[@joshuaherd1015]

Love seeing others inspired by uThermal. This was a fun one

[@Hephera]

dont forget dropperlords! might be viable if the nyduses arent working

[@calvinkaplan7406]

Hey i only have a couple matches after placement, would love to participate in one of these

[@innes2819]

were they not allowed to build hellions/hellbats?

[@ultrainstinctshaggyalmight6429]

Man, Zerglings are looking weird since the last balance patch

[@imperatordestodes]

I think this challenge is not possible, I guess pig gets maximum to Diamond League!

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

This seems like an easy challenge. The best composition in the game is 6 workers, after all

[@SeriousApache]

Siege tanks MVPs (for PiG)

[@toddschriver9924]

What if they make 2 hellbats?

[@lynk5902]

Out of curiosity, do you have a plan against mass hellbat?

[@lynk5902]

or mass lurker?

[@dayton440]

What if you add the ability to use contaminate as you go to higher leagues

[@FrankJohn]

You should be able to use the nydus network in this challenge

[@abyrvalg_]

The zergiest strategy ever lol.

[@bloodhat3097]

Good idea, you get content and play against volunteers. I am glad you found content gold mine without compromising your morals.

[@SOSolacex]

I think few minutes into defensive spine crawlers and 10+ min (or something) offensive spine crawlers should be okay when it's obvious that continuing on *just* drones will just blatantly lose you the game. Obviously in the higher tiers defending with a single queen and drones isn't going to work against an decent higher MMR enemy. Watching X to Grandmaster is fun, however it is more fun when the possibility of winning is there, not when a game is just lost because of being TOO harsh on the limits. (I am AGAINST spine rushes for this challenge as it's of course an entirely different kind of playstyle, but in the end, whatever a DRONE creates should be fair game.) Also, even if you do multiple challenges at the same time, people will know which challenge you're doing after an early scout. So not only will games go harder as you go to higher MMR, they will also get harder because people can realize what challenge you're doing and just counter it. (The con of volunteers vs random ladder) I also think you should make a spire just in case a terran decides to base race and lift his buildings. Especially in higher MMRs I have no doubt that workers + 3 queens will just die to any decent sized army where you'll die in any base race.

[@tbone8358]

You don’t want to change to core 6.0 PiG? It’s really nice

[@earthbind83]

I am really curious how far a shitty build like this can go. XD We didn't even get to see the other matchups yet. And I mean "the other 8(!) matchups". I am especially curious what you'll do about banelings or clumped up silver league cannons / mass spines. Also you didn't even use any rushes yet. And it's good that Relm mentioned in chat that you used changelings for the Nyduses because I hadn't realized that either and kept wondering "how the hell do you have vision in these spots?".