This Swarm Host Cheese Is CRAZY - Zerg Cheese to GM *NEW* Series

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uThermal

uThermal

11 ай бұрын

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@altf113
@altf113 10 ай бұрын
The queen popping in and out of the nydus to kill the oracle was hilarious 🤣
@Boompiee
@Boompiee 10 ай бұрын
Yep that was priceless :D
@Imdrekaiser
@Imdrekaiser 10 ай бұрын
I want you to take control of their probes/scvs then build a protoss/terran army as zerg. That would be the most funny yet difficult challenge.
@detachsoup6061
@detachsoup6061 10 ай бұрын
Against protoss its decently possible since you just need a probe for a few second to build a nexus and other buildings. Against terran is almost impossible because you need multiple neurals to finish the build, the terran easily spots what you are doing in between the neurals (meaning you have to guard it way better) and you need to ensure your own units and defenses dont kill the scv.
@AlxZordon
@AlxZordon 10 ай бұрын
I’ve had that done to me on the ladder lmao definitely should do it
@tinsucevic
@tinsucevic 10 ай бұрын
That would be beautiful
@benjamineidam
@benjamineidam 10 ай бұрын
This has to be the best yet hardest challenge by a lot, ever. Love it, want to see it! :D Edit: What would that actually mean, realisticly? Infestorrush so quick that you can intercept the worker at the natural? Is this even possible? The more I think about it, the more exited I get :D
@Wezelkonijn
@Wezelkonijn 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, there are very sick combinations, like Thors in a nydus or recalling banelings with a mothership or dropping ultras with a medivac. I would LOVE to see all that, but these kind of strategies are almost impossible to pull of.
@rpontonjr
@rpontonjr 10 ай бұрын
Cheese idea: Rush burrow. Burrow zerglings in a circle around where they're going to expand without blocking it, wait for their nexus/hatch to finish, then unburrow pre-surrounded and take it out.
@WhitePointerGaming
@WhitePointerGaming 10 ай бұрын
An even better variation is to burrow banelings next to the mineral line. Wait for them to expand and transfer their workers, then boom!
@TheGreenRoundBirb
@TheGreenRoundBirb 10 ай бұрын
​@@WhitePointerGamingburrow bonanza cheese! Expect the unexpected
@timreutemann9223
@timreutemann9223 10 ай бұрын
Sooo many options with burrow, defensive, offensive, traps, roaches, investors... Ideally combined with a targeted destruction of detection.
@SmithnWesson
@SmithnWesson 10 ай бұрын
I think nydus swarm host is quite good. Very fun to watch. I think nydus lurker would also be fun. I'm not sure if lurkers can be built fast enough though, to do a cheese. I envision of nydus popping into his main base and 12 lurkers popping out and then boom all his buildings are destroyed in about 5 seconds.
@NcDrgn
@NcDrgn 10 ай бұрын
While I'm not an SC2 player myself, I was drawn in by the man, and I must say, he truly delivered beyond expectations.
@thomaschevrierlaliberte5884
@thomaschevrierlaliberte5884 10 ай бұрын
The" burrow around future ccs and surround when completed" suggested by someone else sounds really cool
@nofloornerdsendofline5340
@nofloornerdsendofline5340 10 ай бұрын
as an ex semi-pro zerg for Psistorm Gaming, I will enjoy seeing what uthermal's brain, and zerg cheese can come up with ! 17gas 17pool is decent at causing disruption. But if you get blocked you need to take your third, which is annoying. I personally think that another opening will give you more chaotic options: 15pool (before ov) 14gas, 15ov, (make one single drone when ov pops) put only 2 drones into gas. Make 6 lings, drone to 22 supply, take natural, take ling speed (with 2 drones it should line up perfectly after you take your nat) 22 ov, leave 2 drones on gas to take a fast lair, or very fast burrow, or fast bane next, or ect. 36 supply ov and burrow tech. 44 ov and lair, and 2 spores, 52 take 3 more gas, and choose your tech. furthermore, 2 base tech expand will likely allow you to come up with the most random cheese builds. including 2 base swarm host, 2 base hydra lurker drops, ect ect.
@JoeMendez579
@JoeMendez579 10 ай бұрын
I notice how he send two workers to the gas at the beginning because Marc is so Terran.
@sc2dog
@sc2dog 10 ай бұрын
uThermal you are amazing to watch! And the way you approach the game so chill, helps us normal players just to give things a try!
@AngryDrake
@AngryDrake 10 ай бұрын
I would like to see overlord-related cheese.
@YogonKalisto
@YogonKalisto 10 ай бұрын
overlord rush ftw!
@YogonKalisto
@YogonKalisto 10 ай бұрын
wouldnt it be cool ifyou could burrow airzerg
@Name-ru1kt
@Name-ru1kt 10 ай бұрын
I have a fun strategy that I would love to see uthurmal do which is lurker drop. Kinda bad tbh but who cares A different one that actually works super well that i think dark used inspired by erik is you rush lair and get ovi speed with roaches. What erik did was queen drop tumors to block expansions but instead you can use the queens offensively make a lot more roaches It completely decitmated stargate and banshee openings since their unit count is rather low and you actually have good anti air. Tbh I did this cheese myself before I saw dark cause I messed up the build but nvm that.
@daviderwin1204
@daviderwin1204 10 ай бұрын
Is it possible to make so many overlords and move them in over your army so they can't see what's happening or click on thier units to micro?
@SSLaziale
@SSLaziale 10 ай бұрын
Intentionally failed cannon rush at natural to mask dark templar rush with secret main base pylon
@jetsyrup481
@jetsyrup481 10 ай бұрын
"I don't know how the hell that's gonna work, but let's begin" mood tbh
@____GoMeZ____
@____GoMeZ____ 10 ай бұрын
The Neural challenge is still my #1 request. Has been for ages....would love to see you do it!
@JFox4587
@JFox4587 10 ай бұрын
I’ve always wanted to see someone utilize overlords as a way of messing up someone’s micro somehow. Just take a cloud of overlords with speed and make it difficult to either target your units or perhaps to control their own units? I imagine someone splitting marines vs banes for example and having a hard time seeing properly to click to kill banes because there’s an overlord cloud above the battle.
@MrFancyGamer
@MrFancyGamer 10 ай бұрын
sadly this doesn’t rly work cus just attack move automatically targets actual attacking enemies first :c
@JFox4587
@JFox4587 10 ай бұрын
@@MrFancyGamer you can’t attack move against ling bane with Marines. You either have to split to minimize damage, or focus fire the banes.
@asdf154
@asdf154 10 ай бұрын
Burrow banes at your opponent's third or 4th mineral line. Wait till he saturates, then detonate! :D
@WatchingVidss
@WatchingVidss 10 ай бұрын
The GOAT is back! Uthermal2 has been holding me over while waiting for these new cheesy series.
@ArthurMasterofLance
@ArthurMasterofLance 10 ай бұрын
Yay you're back! So much fun to be had. Hope you enjoyed the time off. I know we will all enjoy youre time back =).
@anthonyrepetto3474
@anthonyrepetto3474 10 ай бұрын
Zerg Rush IDEAS: -- 12pool into Hive: adrenal-upgrade zerglings, vipers! -- Mass Baneline Mine, Infestor + Burrow + Dropper-Lords (hide infestors in dropper-lords AND burrow...)
@user-gc2is9rn1y
@user-gc2is9rn1y 10 ай бұрын
I think you might have destroyed the ladder with that swarm host build.😂😂 Since this video came out, I've had so many zerg players nydus swarm hosts. Props to you
@garion046
@garion046 10 ай бұрын
That last game almost felt like Day9 and Apollo mind games chat. 'So you build your natural, and you transfer ALL your drones to it, so you can hude lings in your main. But your opponent doesn't scout so doesn't see your natural saturation... and then you just go all in anyways. MIND GAMES.'
@corlevtec
@corlevtec 10 ай бұрын
Great video. Love the way you explain the flow of the game. Would love to see you try infestor fungal drops on their mineral lines. then finish with what ever unit you want.
@lukewilton9525
@lukewilton9525 10 ай бұрын
I’m loving the Zerg and Protoss cheeses. Keeping the content fresh
@insideurgirl
@insideurgirl 10 ай бұрын
great content Uthermal!
@sethculverwell9693
@sethculverwell9693 10 ай бұрын
Soooo happy to see the X to GM back online! You're the man @uThermal
@insideurgirl
@insideurgirl 10 ай бұрын
I want to see only spine and spore crawler cheese. Also, see if an overlord or nydus worm can load uprooted Spine Crawler and Spore Crawler if they are considered unites.
@Name-ru1kt
@Name-ru1kt 10 ай бұрын
They cannot I have tried this myself. You can overlord drop drones in and make spines from after since overlords can drop creep
@JoeMustache321
@JoeMustache321 10 ай бұрын
going for second army by stealing your opponent's worker is always sick. Wish it was like brood war where it gives an extra 200 supply
@balintlengyel1434
@balintlengyel1434 10 ай бұрын
"You do need to accompany the cheese with something." Some nice wine would be favorite :)
@romainguittet8823
@romainguittet8823 10 ай бұрын
Merci d’avoir repris les uploads, t’es un roi ❤
@russellinator
@russellinator 10 ай бұрын
So excited for this series!!
@messinround4810
@messinround4810 10 ай бұрын
I believe the Zerg player Lorimbo has some of the best Zerg ladder cheese builds out there. I remember an hilarious video about his builds on Harstem's channel.
@1stcrowdraven
@1stcrowdraven 10 ай бұрын
Should do one where you only build burrowing units. Roaches, infestors, lurkers, swarm hosts. Second one I'd love to see is a rush to broodlord
@MonochromaticPrism
@MonochromaticPrism 10 ай бұрын
Long time Zerg fan, love watching a skilled player push the boundaries of viable alternative strategies.
@JonathanMercure
@JonathanMercure 10 ай бұрын
Love seeing you play Zerg!!
@manunarine3529
@manunarine3529 10 ай бұрын
Man, u are definitely the most chaotic GM player in SC 2 lol....there's cheese and there's uThermal cheese, which is a whole Mozzarella cheese.
@Feljo
@Feljo 4 ай бұрын
12:12 that's just like slapping them in the face xDD
@Damlorindgren
@Damlorindgren 10 ай бұрын
For a zerg build vs zerg: go up to 14 drones, double extractor trick, then send a dron for the second hatchery, another dron for the extractor, and the pool as soon as you have the minerals. One more dron to go back to 14, as soon as the extractor is done 3 drones there to harvest 100 gas asap. Time to build two overlords Your second hatchery and the spawning pool should finish around the same time, as well as you getting 100 gas, now you have to start lings speed, build a queen and take off all drones from gas Fron now on you build only lings and when speed finish you go for a ling flood. Main advantage is limgs speed 15-30 secs earlier than the other guy and massive army. You'll have to dance with banes tho
@phineasfaber5159
@phineasfaber5159 10 ай бұрын
Banelings, Swarmhosts and 20 alternate unit army supply to GM. Pick whatever you want but only one per game and only 20 supply. More excited for uThermal to become a baneling monster.
@solarheckle2704
@solarheckle2704 10 ай бұрын
Missed you Thermy :D the cheese strats are the fave!!
@qontodemigo2461
@qontodemigo2461 10 ай бұрын
Yes! I asked for swarm host for like 20 episodes after you used it in ep 2 of proxy hatch
@LoneWolf-kw3ol
@LoneWolf-kw3ol 10 ай бұрын
cheese challenge idea: Blot out the Sun In honor of a classic, make an absurd amount of overlords, fly the giant mass over the enemy base, and drop an army on their heads while generating creep. any units allowed except flyers, seers allowed, obv you need drops. The idea is they cant micro at ALL because of how many lords you have, and their units get too caught up shooting overlords instead of the actual army eating their base. WarOwl did it first, coined the phrase "all your base r belong to me" and it was legendary
@mr_clean575
@mr_clean575 10 ай бұрын
this would be fire
@hangover89
@hangover89 10 ай бұрын
Yo thermy, what if you tried the overlord/drone into spine crawler rush that Mixu pulled on you?
@cjfletcher325
@cjfletcher325 10 ай бұрын
Anything uThermal tries is crazy because it’s uThermal
@football_edits155
@football_edits155 10 ай бұрын
Love your videos ❤
@gingeral253
@gingeral253 10 ай бұрын
Yay new off race series! Also inspiration.
@KalenvS
@KalenvS 10 ай бұрын
Heeeeey, finally some Zerg gameplay... thanks for this :)
@wolvie90
@wolvie90 10 ай бұрын
Nydus rushes is always really fun. For extra style points, do Nydus rush and Drop-lords at the same time.
@cainednd
@cainednd 10 ай бұрын
I've been excited for Ultralisk to GM for months! :)
@alexanderstorm8651
@alexanderstorm8651 10 ай бұрын
Best cheese ever! I love swarm host! Please more of that 🙂
@Necrocidal
@Necrocidal 10 ай бұрын
Fast burrow, can you put a ling on every base on their side of the map (except main and possibly nat)? Then if you manage to kill the nat, burrow a ling there too and sit back for a bit
@davidelrizzo
@davidelrizzo 10 ай бұрын
I've been watching Marc for like 2 years and I don't think I have ever seen a single Ultralisk. I will throw money at you to do Uktralisk cheese! 🧀🙏❤
@adamhenrie3879
@adamhenrie3879 10 ай бұрын
Our prayers have ben answered, the X to GM series is back !! And even better... Zerg strategies >:-)
@bjarnecrins3459
@bjarnecrins3459 10 ай бұрын
Cheese idea, Nibus highways. Just create like tons of nibus worms all over your base and map, so you can move your entire army across the map very fast.
@leafykille
@leafykille 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see an old school 3 base hydra all in with lurker follow up.
@Chefkok09
@Chefkok09 10 ай бұрын
Hello uThermal, in witch region are you playing? greetsand i like your stuff man.i learn a lot
@Talentaire
@Talentaire 10 ай бұрын
Hey Mark, thanks for the games. I wonder if you could make this work: use the overseer ability in a cheese that stops production and research to maintain opponent at no upgrade while you take 1/1 and 2/2 ! Or a contaminate to grandmaster serie :)
@phillgizmo8934
@phillgizmo8934 10 ай бұрын
I have a weird minichallenge. Neurosuicide infestor just for a fun short moment, neuro parasite ghost and snipe the infestor controlling the ghost.
@saitrio
@saitrio 10 ай бұрын
So cool to see zerg cheese!
@NativeNewMexican
@NativeNewMexican 10 ай бұрын
Is it possible to do a Infestor Fungal Growth on workers harassment, army can only be used for defense/clearing detection for infestor protection?
@mbenson501
@mbenson501 10 ай бұрын
Amazing 🙌
@rubbaevs
@rubbaevs 10 ай бұрын
some kind of cheese involving dropperlords would be cool to see. Or maybe some fast burrow.
@BO-hz2dp
@BO-hz2dp 10 ай бұрын
I don't know if it is possible, but I want you to burrow 6 or so slow banelings at opponent's likely 3rd mineral line before that base gets taken, then put heavy muta pressure on natural to chase even more workers to 3rd. Kaboom.
@Idiomatick
@Idiomatick 10 ай бұрын
I want to see a whole nydus rush only run. You're the only one crazy enough to pull it off. Games with a lot of nydus become very chaotic and fun. You get a subway system when the opponent has to walk like a noob.
@jeroenstolp9889
@jeroenstolp9889 10 ай бұрын
So this is extraordinarily silly, but hear me out... Overseers, obviously, don't cost supply. So in theory, you could make an insane amount of overseers, and use mass changelings on hold command to really mess up your opponent's ability to move their units. I've always wanted to try to mess with it to troll, but I don't have the mechanics uThermal does of course. Would love to see this!
@gerasimpetrovich4887
@gerasimpetrovich4887 10 ай бұрын
- I messed up - Ok, that's a pretty honest assessment of the situation here Excellent comment xDDD
@maximk9964
@maximk9964 10 ай бұрын
Mass hydralisk all in... with lurkers 🤔
@ackerman8508
@ackerman8508 10 ай бұрын
simultaneos tripple battlecruiser cheese
@levismegenbir
@levismegenbir 10 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see the Ultralisk drop!!!
@jacobsvensson8193
@jacobsvensson8193 10 ай бұрын
Rush lurker drops, I've done it myself and it's pretty fun
@MKu64
@MKu64 10 ай бұрын
I main Swarm Host nydus builds when playing team games for the lols. Been doing it for years and recently people have been doing it more regularly. Need to micro it a bit more than what's happening here. Multi Nydus, pull them in and out partially launching, individual hold positions on locust etc. and can do massive damage. Also, yes, you would have killed that Nexus 100 percent if you targeted.
@Iog0ut
@Iog0ut 10 ай бұрын
Mass muta to bait Phoenix into mass viper could be fun to watch haha
@amNotRed
@amNotRed 10 ай бұрын
Uthermal AND swarm hosts?!!?!‽ This is gonna be a treat!!!!
@m.a.z.t.m
@m.a.z.t.m 10 ай бұрын
ZvZ I like to start out standard and then make an evo chamber after the spawning pool and rush out +1 melee and then speed after. If you hold against the initial wave of lings, you win.
@TheAussieLeo
@TheAussieLeo 10 ай бұрын
I love the games, stay humble and stay happy :) :) :)
@rpontonjr
@rpontonjr 10 ай бұрын
Factory-in-their-base variant: Dropper lord a queen into the corner of their base, poop creep, and start planting down creep tumors. Spread as much creep as you can in their base without being spotted.
@espernova228
@espernova228 10 ай бұрын
Overlord + Ultralisk worker harass while Swarm Hosts
@Cberk03
@Cberk03 10 ай бұрын
Can you do pf and missle turrets in mass
@pierredelapotterie5996
@pierredelapotterie5996 10 ай бұрын
Is it a viable strategy to have 1 or 2 prism full of high templar, and you use your main army to occupy enemy army to position the prism from side or behind so you can unleash a full storm on the enemy army? Haven't watched enough of pro protoss match to know if this a often used tactic
@hangover89
@hangover89 10 ай бұрын
Yes, that's definitely a strategy the pros use. They use them for drops as well for worker harassment. Two storms shred an entire mineral line
@BukovTervicz
@BukovTervicz 10 ай бұрын
Oh hell yes! Bring us the broodlords baby!
@ellielikesmath
@ellielikesmath 10 ай бұрын
i never see you use lurkers, so could you please try a lurker cheese?
@maximk9964
@maximk9964 10 ай бұрын
Zerg cheese is so chaotic, with creep and lings and Nydas... Never know what'll happen next
@football_edits155
@football_edits155 10 ай бұрын
The goat
@personperso9429
@personperso9429 10 ай бұрын
doing protoss and zerg at the same time goes against everything uthermal taught me. dude needs to focus on just one race.
@michaelnatterer3521
@michaelnatterer3521 10 ай бұрын
Hows about you make a video where you infest scvs and probes and build a zerg hybrid race I know if anyone can make it happen, its you. I assume making a terran-zerg-hybrid army is kinda difficult
@njdarda
@njdarda 10 ай бұрын
this is cursed and i love it
@vladislavkerdyashkin9120
@vladislavkerdyashkin9120 10 ай бұрын
I would like to see some ultralisks, I have seen many of your videos and there were no ultralisks in any of them. It would be nice to see you cheese or simply play with ultralisks
@craig4811
@craig4811 10 ай бұрын
Let's go!
@user-wt2td6fg9y
@user-wt2td6fg9y 10 ай бұрын
ultralisk drop - sounds good)
@brianmcgoldrick9529
@brianmcgoldrick9529 10 ай бұрын
I'd love to see some nydus swarm hosts
@diazalex5314
@diazalex5314 10 ай бұрын
Zvz, is it possible to take over their worker then create a spine?
@mirainokiokuha
@mirainokiokuha 10 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the zerg nexus or cc
@michaelswain868
@michaelswain868 10 ай бұрын
I want 2 base muta rush, Bly inspired shenanigans, a roach rush, baneling dropper lord, 12 pool and maybe a 6 minute hydra all in... (less cheese and more just disgustingly unexpected the hydra all in)
@GlenBeebe
@GlenBeebe 7 ай бұрын
You should end videos with “adios” when you’re in Mexico, and “peace” when you’re in the Netherlands ✌️
@Joffie69
@Joffie69 10 ай бұрын
Bring some hommage to Broodwars.. an old fashion lurker rush! xD
@Vectorbro
@Vectorbro 4 күн бұрын
Remember when swarm host didn't need to be microed to spawn locust
@Nebral
@Nebral 10 ай бұрын
Ooooo boiiiiii finally Zerg 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@impromptu_ninja
@impromptu_ninja 10 ай бұрын
for some reason in my mind I hear Xerces when you say zerg cheese. Next name for your zerg cheese should be Xerchees lol
@guest578
@guest578 10 ай бұрын
Is it possible to cheese ZvZ by building on opponents creep?
@badpf8705
@badpf8705 10 ай бұрын
at some point can i suggest a nydusworm ultralisk cheese? very unusuall
@barnaclebob123
@barnaclebob123 10 ай бұрын
spine rush vs non zerg. maybe overlord to drop the creep or something
@DigitalDustChan
@DigitalDustChan 10 ай бұрын
Here's a cheese that I've never seen: Wall off using creep tumors. Why don't I ever see that?
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