Laser Showdown: Which One is Better? LYMA Laser or NIRA Laser?

[@denisenj7648]

Surprisingly, what has worked best on my hooded eyes has been my estradiol vag cream. I have a dedicated tube I use as eye and neck cream and after a few weeks my eyes look much better.

[@beautybeyond40]

Wow! Great tip 😊

[@suzanndy]

Wow... Do you use it daily, and the entire lid?

[@denisenj7648]

@@suzanndy Yep. Every night.

[@lyndaboca8111]

I love the results from the Lyma, the best at home laser! I bought it during black friday at discount :)

[@alicesvideos]

Exciting! I have both as well so I'm watching now to see how your results compare to mine. Couldn't find your chart to download -- ?? I have a feeling I know what your final thoughts will be . . . . Time for face & neck - Lyma - 75 to 90 mins. (inc. lots of 5 min. holds), Nira 12 mins. Skincare - Lyma - really really dislike their Mist & Glide, instead I use a variety of oils. Also, don't like Lyma's Serum & Cream either. Nira - haven't tried their products but absolutely love that you use it on clean skin. Lyma - totally pain free, Nira Pro - zero pain, unless you don't lift it to move to next spot, that creates a lot of heat. Lyma - it takes soooo long that it's a bore. Personally I think all the gliding doesn't do all that much for your skin as the laser doesn't get a chance to train on anything, so I do a 5 min. glide on each of cheeks, forehead & neck, and then do about 12 5-min. holds on various parts of my face. I too have thought a bit about whether it's the products and hour facial massage might be a big part of my results. Lyma - I don't mind looking in the mirror for 12 mins. while I use it. Eyes -- I use Lyma across my upper lips and holds on various places above my brows to get eyebrow lift, which also helps with hoods. With Nira, I do 3 zaps over each upper eyelid and then zap above my brows to give them lift. Both do give lift and have evened my brows. But I think Nira probably accomplishes that over a shorter period of time. Skin Quality -- I think they both improve skin quality/texture. Also, both greatly reduce redness as in banish it completely -- at least for me, and I have rosacea. Skin Firmness - Lyma does help with firmness, slowly, very slowly. Nira - not sure. Here's a question that maybe you can get answered -- I don't know what they call them, but you know that test you can get that shows sun damage? I'd love to know if either of these devices show improvement in those tests? Lyma says it does deep to actually fix damage so I would think those tests should show less damage over time??? Which would I recommend? I doubt people want to spend 60 to 90 mins. a day so the Lyma will get old quickly. Nira at just 12 min. a day, which includes extra passes all around my eyes, is a piece of cake. I have to say after using my Lyma religiously every night for 4 months, I've kind of pooped out this last month, so I've got my battery charging and start again tonight, I promise (I hope). Loved your video!!!!

[@beautybeyond40]

Wow thanks for all of your thoughts! Obviously we are both very into the topic 😂😊

[@RachanaTiwari-ol2qh]

Hey thank u for all these information,which one do u think helps with red veins on face ?i have so many of them

[@beautybeyond40]

@@RachanaTiwari-ol2qh I am not sure, but my guess would be that the LYMA could help with that.

[@gracetam7430]

Love your video with lots of insights indeed..I am also using microcurrent (I have the ziip and myolift mini ) ...I am wondering how can I incorporate the nira pro into my skincare routine ? Love to hear your thoughts...thanks!

[@suecone2198]

I have the Nira Pro and I had quit using my small Nira but I am going to start using the small one on my eyes as I had never thought about how perfect the small Nira is for the eyes. Great review!

[@kellyh917]

Thanks, Trina!! Love your videos and how thorough you are with reviewing devices. You have definitely inspired most, if not all, of my beauty device purchases! 😀 I have and love both! ❤ I've had the Nira since August and use it more because it's faster, but I try to fit in the Lyma at least twice a week. I got the Lyma in December and committed to the 30-60 mins the first 3 months. I was excited to use it and the time passed pretty quickly since I am always doing it when we're winding down before bed and watching TV. I also do the Nira while watching TV. In the beginning I used the mirror, but now I pretty much have a sense of the "route" around my face. Although... My face must be much bigger than Trina's because it takes me longer than 3 minutes. 😂 I love and will continue to use both because of the improvement in skin texture and my fine lines have softened.

[@beautybeyond40]

Thanks for your thoughts. I’m glad to see someone else using both like me!

[@alicesvideos]

@@beautybeyond40 I'm going to TRY to make it a year with the Lyma. We'll see how that goes. Oh, I forgot to say I think there is some improvement in my decades old acne scars as well. Much less noticeable, although that could be because the red tinge that remained is gone. Really does wonders for redness!

[@denisenj7648]

For 2k more, it's not worth it bc you can get some great in office treatments for that amount if money not to mention the time. I'd get rhe nira and hit the derms office.

[@beautybeyond40]

Thanks for your thoughts!

[@NIRA_skin]

We appreciate the effort you put into creating this content. Your before and after photos, along with your insights, will be incredibly valuable for anyone considering our NIRA Lasers. We’re grateful for the opportunity to be featured on your channel. Thank you for being part of our NIRA family!

[@lalaexplores1]

@NIRA_skin I’m so disappointed I didn’t watch more videos b4 I purchased the Nira Pro. I just wasted over $700 on your products and have been watching videos with ladies that got zero results. I could cry. I’m so disappointed I trusted this ladies opinion.

[@carlingus7639]

Hi! Quick comment -as a lyma laser user for couple years now I’ll say I use NO skincare under it just clean skin and it is very good at giving a glowy, plumped look to the skin …as well as improving skin texture scars pores acne even some lifting/refining of jaw line…it clearly isn’t skincare doing it for me. I look rested and healthier in the immediate hour or so after using it. 15 mins gets you some circulation and plump to the skin before makeup for an event. Longer sessions in front of television/ while reading most nights before bed are where long term change occurs. It is not for faint of heart. It takes too long and isn’t immediate enough for most people. It’s for people willing to use it at least 30 mins for real change.

[@kkorsh]

thanks for another amazing video and for your rec on nira precision for my hooded eyelids. I got it and waiting for it to arrive. can't wait to start using it. I'm actually in the UK and am considering LYMA and maybe even LYMA pro, although its soooo expensive

[@beautybeyond40]

I want that Lyma pro so bad!!!

[@td4611]

I have the Nira Laser and use it regularly. I have to be careful with all my heated devices because I’ve experienced burns. I’m not sure if it’s working for me or not. That’s because I use a lot of devices and I’m not testing them like an influencer.

[@HellBelle666]

Thanks for this.🙏 I have the Lyma and its brilliant. And you answered my question whether to bother getting the nira. I use castor oil to use my lyma 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧

[@beautybeyond40]

Thank you! I love hearing how people use their LYMA!

[@sharoi33]

tried both. The Nira pro caused eye dryness that was so extreme I had to return it. I used it as indicated, and the company was very helpful listening to my side effect and refunding the money. I like the Lyma, yes it takes time and yes it is expensive but it works

[@beautybeyond40]

Are you looking at the LYMA Pro device? I hope to get it next year when it launches in the US.

[@sharoi33]

@@beautybeyond40 I would love to have it but I could barely afford this one;)

[@beautybeyond40]

@@sharoi33 I know! It is so expensive!

[@marlaherbig6591]

I use the Nira with my dominate hand while brushing my teeth with my electric toothbrush with my left. Pretty fast!

[@nantucketmornings]

I wish i were this co-ordinated ! i'd end up lasering my teeth and brushing my face :))

[@suzannehorton3146]

I guess depending on age or skin issue... I found the lyma laser helped alot for overall.. glow and looking younger.. i am 59 years old.... i dont have much for lines etc,, but it helps to lift and make my face look healthy..i never tried the Nira...so i cant say anything about the device..

[@heatherhernandez5561]

This makes me want to re start using my Nira

[@beautybeyond40]

I go through phases where I get motivated to use some devices again. It's so hard to stay consistent all the time.

[@NIRA_skin]

We're thrilled to hear that! Restarting your NIRA routine could bring you great results. Remember to stay consistent and follow the recommended guidelines for the best outcome. If you have any questions or need tips, feel free to reach out.

[@janestclair3650]

What about jowls and marionette lines..do any help..what about original Nira?

[@warrioroflight801]

Thank you 🙏🏽 ❤ I just got the Lyma and also the beauty of getting older is no cycle no melisma 🥰✨

[@beautybeyond40]

Ohhhh I don’t get my period anymore and my melasma has been so much better this year … I didn’t know this would impact my melasma but this tracks !!!

[@jackiel7728]

Thanks for the thorough review ❤ I'm leaning towards Nira because of both the budget and the treatment time (I'm a new mom 😅). You mentioned that you do your Nira treatment at night, is that the same time you use your LED mask? Would they go well together considering they both give the skin sime heat? I use my LED mask right before sleep. How about the combination of Nira and microcurrent devices such as Bear2? I don't have a microcurrent device right now but am thinking of getting one in about a year once my baby has a better sleeping schedule and I can afford to have more self-care time. I'm wondering though, how I'd layer LED, Nira, and micro current together, or if purchasing Nira now will prevent me from using a micro current device

[@NIRA_skin]

Hi, @jackiel7728 Thank you for choosing NIRA! We suggest incorporating complementary skincare tools alongside NIRA. Alternate their usage, using NIRA in the morning and other devices in the evening to allow your skin time to rest. Just keep in mind that with more use of skincare devices, your skin might need extra hydration in those areas, but other than that, you should be fine and it is totally safe!

[@kimhoffman433]

thanks

[@suereeve7]

Thanks Trina, great tutorial as always. Do you have any thoughts as to which device is best suited to treat smoker's lines? They are my no1 concern. I use the Zipp and the Maysama Panel religiously. I would appreciate any advice you might have for me. Thank you

[@beautybeyond40]

I would be sure to use the founders favorite nanocurrent routine on your lip area and then trying using some rooibos skincare with your maysama panel on pulse mode

[@suereeve7]

Thank you. Are you saying that neither the Lyma or the Nira Pro will help with the smoker's lines? Thanks so much for all this

[@beautybeyond40]

@@suereeve7 They both would help with that. I thought you were asking how the ZIIP and Maysama panel would help with that. All 4 of these devices will help with smoker's lines. The device that will help the most is the one you use the most.

[@suereeve7]

@@beautybeyond40 Thank you for taking the time to answer me.

[@meredithbollinger4647]

Is Lyma okay to use for melasma? Same question for the Nira (aka: does it make it worse?). Also, can they cause fat loss?

[@beautybeyond40]

LYMA helps my melasma a lot. Nira doesn't flare my melasma, but doesn't help it. LYMA is cold while NIRA is hot, so LYMA is better for melasma in my opinion. No devices I use on my face cause facial fat loss.

[@andreazigin6722]

Would I be able to use Nira pro around eyes or the head is too big to do that. TIA

[@beautybeyond40]

the head is too big for my eyes, so if your face/eyes are shaped like mine, you may have a similar experience

[@jenni1sthere]

Thank you for this vid. You obviously put a lot of thought and work into it. Melasma seems to be a big concern for you. I'm more interested in spider veins, and maybe treating my knees. Do you have any specific input on those?

[@beautybeyond40]

LYMA is supposed to treat spider veins. I have some on my legs, but I never tested the laser long enough to see results. The results are so slow with this laser. I may try again when I get the Pro since the treatment time will be so much faster.

[@JDLS-v8p]

Thank you for this. Dr. Idriss called the Lyma useless and I have one. I’ll keep using it and hope for the best. My skin texture and my jowls are my concern. I had been using the ZIiP but it caused uncomfortable muscle spasms in my neck and I hate having to use the app all the time.

[@beautybeyond40]

I would ask Dr. Idriss is she/he has actually tested the LYMA laser. I have tested it and it works for me, although the results are slow. It's like someone saying they hate pizza but have never even tried it. But maybe he/she has tested it? I'm not sure. How long have you been using the LYMA and have you seen any results yet? Sorry to hear the ZIIP made your neck spasm. I haven't had that experience. Did you reach out to ZIIP to ask them about this? Maybe they have some tips, like to wear more gel or only use nanocurrent on your neck? But if you hate the app, then I guess it doesn't matter. I don't really like using apps either, so I get it.

[@MissKrisLoves]

What's the difference between the Lyma and other medical grade cold lasers used to treat arthritis? Or injuries to the skin, scars etc Thank you for this comparison ❤

[@beautybeyond40]

Not sure. This is the only cold laser I have used and I specialize in at-home devices and don’t use any devices to treat arthritis. You could ask LYMA directly?

[@stephanienicholson8357]

Trina, I just bought the Lyma laser based on your reviews. My only question is this. Generally speaking, can we combine the Lyma laser with our favorite LED mask on the same day or should those modalities be spaced apart? Other than that, I am loving the Lyma so far and it really seems to be helping with my perioral dermatitis.

[@beautybeyond40]

So glad to hear this! You can definitely use your LED mask and LYMA on the same day. I often do this

[@stephanienicholson8357]

@@beautybeyond40 Great! I really appreciate your help. I just bought the Korres Velvet Skin and am excited to try it for some added slip. Love your content and thank you! ☺

[@beautybeyond40]

@@stephanienicholson8357 I hope you love it!

[@elpidagrace]

The Nira pro is def much more within my price range, however I really suffer from melasma…. The heat from the Nira pro, prob no bueno…???? I’ve been eyeing and hoping to save up for the Luna since it came out….🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@beautybeyond40]

The nira didn’t seem to affect my melasma

[@NIRA_skin]

Hi, @elpidagrace Although NIRA Lasers are safe to use and have been tested clinically to achieve FDA clearance, we have no evidence to support any contraindications regarding melasma. We are so confident that you’ll love your results that we offer a 90-day money-back guarantee.

[@gracetam7430]

Thanks Trina for your comments. Very informative. I am currently using my microcurrent device (the Myolift mini). I am wondering how to incorporate Nira into my routine. May I have your recommendation? Thanks!

[@zj9538]

Which is better for Jowls?

[@beautybeyond40]

Since they both work, the best one for YOU is the one you will use consistently to see results.

[@debs1717]

If you had to choose between the Nira or a Led mask which one would you choose? This is where I am at now in making a decision. If it's a mask which one would you pick? Thanks

[@beautybeyond40]

Hi. I can't make that decision for you since everyone is so different. I really depends on what you are trying to do. I use my NIRA Precision almost every single day to keep my hooded eyes lifted, and I also use an LED mask almost every single day. I like the MAYSAMA mask since it has pulsed light and I can use blue+red to help with anti-aging and my peri-menopausal skin breakouts. If you are concerned with breakouts, I would go for LED over the NIRA laser. The current body series 2 mask is also really great if you want red+NIR. The new iRestore Illumina LED mask allows you to use red+blue+NIR all at the same time, so that's another good option. I just heard that NIRA is launching a new Pro+ device, so it might be a good idea to get an LED mask for now and then get the new NIRA laser later on? The NIRA (pro or precision) is not passive - you have to be looking in the mirror while you use it. With an LED mask, you just put it on and it does all the work for you. So get the one you envision yourself using more. Whatever you pick, just stay consistent with it and you will see results. I hope this helps. It really is a personal decision for everyone.

[@fionaoneill4674]

Can you use a Lyma if you have rosacea?x

[@beautybeyond40]

Yes! I think so

[@rachelgoldman1525]

Is it safe to use both devices? I have a red light therapy + NIR eye mask but I’d love to add a laser device like the Nira into my routine

[@beautybeyond40]

Is it safe to use LYMA and NIRA together? Yes, there is no conflict. The only conflict I talked about recently on my channel is using NIRA and RF devices in the same routine over the same areas of your skin. I don't use 2 heat devices over the same skin. There is no conflict using LED devices with any laser devices (LYMA or NIRA) since in this case, only the NIRA would be heat based.

[@rachelgoldman1525]

@@beautybeyond40 So my eye mask that has NIR should not be used with RF it sounds like. This is good to know, thanks! Does your other video talk about the effectiveness of RF versus NIR?

[@beautybeyond40]

@@rachelgoldman1525 There is no conflict with NIR and radio frequency. NIR is near infrared, which is an invisible wavelength included in many LED devices. LED and RF have no conflict. Only heat based devices like Nira and RF would be in conflict. Radio frequency uses heat to stimulate collagen and elastin, while NIR is near infrared wavelengths of light that stimulate collagen and elastin to tighten the skin over time. I use both modalities regularly.

[@CeciliaNordebrink]

Hello! Can't they do a mask with the lyma laser like a LED-mask? :)

[@beautybeyond40]

I am guessing no since they don't sell it

[@alxx51]

Please review DermRays Revive laser

[@srao3020]

Hello, few questions 1- Can I use Nira and Lyma on the same day on different parts of the face? Nira near the eyes and Lyma rest of the face? 2- Can I use Lyma with Light Salon as a part of a protocol?

[@beautybeyond40]

yes you can use both as long as you don't overlap. if you don't overlap, you are not using both devices on the same skin. yes you can use LYMA with LED. there is no conflict.

[@AnneMcCabe-y9m]

I have all three devices . I’ve just began using them. My biggest skin issue is age or sun spots. Can you give me the name of the facial you receive for mylesmia?

[@beautybeyond40]

For melasma? It's called the Cosmelan depigmentation professional peel

[@fennlynn7675]

hi trina which one is best for lifting coz i don't have hyperpigmentation or wrinkles and am most concerned about jowls and nasalabia folds

[@NIRA_skin]

Hi, @fennlynn7675 Our non-fractional laser device technology is not typically utilized for sculpting the jowls. This type of technology is clinically proven to build collagen for dramatic wrinkle reduction in 90 days. However, stimulating collagen production within the skin generally offers long-lasting benefits beyond wrinkle reduction. By treating deeper than just the skin's surface, gradual yet lasting skin renewal occurs - resulting in a jowl reduction over time.

[@beautybeyond40]

Per the chart I created, neither of them include “lifting” as a concern they treat. However, feel free to look at my before and after photos to see which one you think gives you the results you like more. I tend to view lifting devices as muscle tightening devices like microcurrent, which I also use along with my skin tightening devices.

[@lanibennett5081]

@@beautybeyond40which device do you recommend for lifting skin?

[@awetewtewtewawetwetw500]

Do you wear upf gloves

[@beautybeyond40]

Sometimes

[@kirstybreen1295]

I got rid on my nira pro because I wasn’t noticing a difference. Do you think the precision is better for the eyes? 👀 does it have that annoying beep?

[@NIRA_skin]

The NIRA Lasers require consistent usage for at least 60-90 days to start seeing results. The NIRA Precision Laser is perfect for targeting small, hard-to-treat areas such as crow's feet and the general area around the eyes. Both lasers use pulse beeps to signify when it's time to move to a new spot.

[@lindabenson1764]

CAN(?) you use the (larger) Nira Pro around & close to your eyes? (Like you can with the Nira Precision?)

[@beautybeyond40]

You can if it fits. It doesn’t fit on my hooded eyes.

[@phoebesoso]

if I hv many dark on fase , I am 59 years old, I want to remove my dark spot, which product do you recommend, please

[@beautybeyond40]

Cosmelan chemical peel

[@SherriEhlers]

Hi, any restrictions with the Lyma or Nira for acne? My menopausal skin doesn't cooperate sometimes. I have the Nira precision, and I've learned the hard way that the concentrated precision tip hurts A LOT on skin imperfections. With the bigger tip on the Nira pro, does the larger laser surface area dilute it so there's less pain? I knew nothing about the Lyma before today. Thanks!

[@NIRA_skin]

Hi, @SherriEhlers We're sorry to hear about your experience with the NIRA Precision. With the NIRA Pro, the larger laser surface area can indeed make the treatment feel less intense because it distributes the energy over a broader area. We have no evidence to support any contraindications regarding acne. However, it's still crucial to avoid using it directly on active acne or broken skin to prevent irritation.

[@helloydl]

Hello guys, I am 36 and using both nira pro and percision. I have severe tech neck, and after using the pro on the sides of my neck, now the deep lines have significantly improved to the point where they are becoming invisible, however the middle of my neck, I can still see the deep lines! Percision also works perfect for me when lifting my hoodie eyes, but my under eye wrinkle becomes more obvious due to dryness. overall, I personally think nira is a lot more promising then lyma. I have a lot of questions about lyma, still wondering what's the mechanisim of delivering the results. nira uses precise wavelength to heat up the water in the dermas to create acute stress on skin, red light mask use certain wavelength to regenerate the our cell, therefore becomes more healthy. This sounds a lot like how lyma is working according to this KZbin (Sorry, I don't know her name).I am wondering if the "cold laser" is just red light, that's why it needs such a long treatment everyday to see results. With $2000 t0 $3000 budget, it makes more sense to see a professional for shorter treatment and promising results. I've heard a lot of good things about JOVS 4D mask, it uses 4 wavelengths (2 red lights, 2 lasers), 15 min/day and costs $700-$800 without promotion. People who uses it also indicate they see dramatic improvement on skin tone, much like the lyma but cheaper, easier, shorter treatment. I personally think lyma is a scam, and we should shop wisely.

[@beautybeyond40]

Hi. My name is Trina and I read all the comments on my channel. Thanks for your feedback. No, the LYMA is not just a red light. I explain the LLLT technology in detail in this video and discuss how it works and what it is doing. Perhaps you can watch it again? You are correct that the Nira uses heat to create stress on the skin and force collagen production per collagen induction therapy. Since the LYMA is cold, it does not cause any damage to the skin and regenerates cells and skin over time. This is why it works slower than the NIRA. Some people don't want to use heat/damage their skin to see results, which is why LYMA is a better choice for them. I also cover this in detail in my video. I have the JOVS mask and haven't seen much improvement over a month+ of use. I still use my NIRA and LYMA devices and based on my results, I don't think they are a scam, but since you disagree, you can shop per your opinions. Thanks for watching.

[@Roxygirl176]

I wanted to like the Lyma so badly, but after so much experience watching their social media, their founder Lucy only shows long distance shots of herself, and if you do see a video with a content creator she hasn’t filtered, you can see that she has wrinkles and clearly uses Botox on her forehead. I don’t believe that the Lyma is the miracle device it is being promoted as. Plus the people they use on their social media promotions are either young (so don’t yet have aging skin) or celebrities who are clearly using professional procedures. If the Lyma was as good as they claim, why don’t they show real before and after images of everyday people that are not filtered or photoshopped in any way? Again, I’m not a hater, I really wanted to like the Lyma.

[@user-pammyr]

I’m 68 and been using it for 2.5 years. It does work but it’s very subtle results. It takes a while. It has reduced a lump on my face by 90% and hoping it will be gone soon. When I look in the mirror I can see where I have used it because my face and neck has less marks.

[@jerrytrouble]

Not a gmail or google user so can’t subscribe to you new letter. ☹️

[@beautybeyond40]

My email newsletter does not require gmail or google. Where are you seeing this requirement? Any email address can sign up for my email list on my website. www.beautybeyond.com/

[@cherylkitchen]

Low level laser technology? That is marketing without telling you what it is. They do not say it's a laser at all. I'm an optical engineer. Red lights are going off in my head. I suspect this device is not truly a laser. Maybe it is more like red light therapy. I don't understand why more information is not provided from the company.

[@beautybeyond40]

Yes they do say it's laser. The product is called LYMA Laser and it says "near-infrared laser technology" and "Low-Level Laser" on the website (or LLLT). It is not LED (light emitting diode). I love this laser, but if you're not sold on nor satisfied with the info provided by the company, there are many other options on the market.

[@emishatar]

Wow, you are lucky... I could never afford to buy a device for more than 5 thousand dollars! Even the older version is still out of reach for my pocket!

[@beautybeyond40]

I don’t have a device that costs more than $5k