"LAG is Irrelevant!" Golf Int. with Monte Scheinblum

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@whetedge
@whetedge 8 жыл бұрын
When a golfer tries to "hold lag", muscles in the fore arms are keyed in the opposite direction of the hit, which then has to be overcome in order to make them move in the direction of the hit. Conversely, if a golfer resists lag, muscles are automatically keyed to release in the direction of the hit. Note that "resist" is not the same as "prevent". Resistance to lag is like having spring loaded wrists. Ultimately, the amount of lag is less important than when it is released. Good video. If you get loaded properly on the up swing, hips/lower body will perform perfectly without thought.
@Listman11
@Listman11 9 жыл бұрын
After 20 years, I undertook a golf swing change. It took me about a year to fully transform my swing. My swing has improved so much and I have lowered my score by 7-10 strokes a round. You can definitely improve after 3 years. You can improve after 20 years.
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
That is major improvement. It must have been a lot of practice and hard work!
@millerjeff
@millerjeff Жыл бұрын
Peter Kostis from CBS showed us time after time that Freddie Couples always moved his hips 1/2 to 1 inches forward on the start of the downswing (see it in the slow motion video) which then made me spinout the hips on my downswing - disaster. Thank you for clearing this up about what I should be doing.
@jdrobison1967
@jdrobison1967 9 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, Brendon! Looking forward to more. When Monte had me casting from the top, I thought he was out of his mind. But since then I've done numerous videos of myself casting immediately vs intentionally sustaining lag and the difference is amazing. Turns out he might know what he's doing! Hah!
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
John Robison Thanks John! It sounds like you and I are on very similar paths with the golf swing.
@DelValPC
@DelValPC 9 жыл бұрын
I bought the golfing machine book about 2 years ago. I think I should have bought a book on rocket propulsion because it would have been easier to understand. I also spent alot of time on the secret in the dirt site with alot of people describing what hogan meant with some of his writings. I think you have hit the nail on the head with this drill. I dont even want to call it a drill because this is a swing. The nail on the head I am describing is when hogan wrote that he wished he had two right hands. I am 49 years old and have been playing since i was in my early 20s. I have spent countless money on books, lessons, and the next best gadgets. I wish I saw this video when I started instead of trying to get into positions like the pros do. Thank you
@Kisa6969
@Kisa6969 9 жыл бұрын
Watched a ton of golf instruction videos over the past year. Felt like I had lost my swing about 5 months back. Watching just a few of your videos gave me some good keys to get my body back into the correct position. Thank you!!! Now I am back to a 5 handicap.
@antondebruyn5569
@antondebruyn5569 3 жыл бұрын
I had an obsession with lag and googled the best golf instructors and got to a sight where they were ranged from 1 to 10. On top was Monte and number 2 is Chuck. I looked at Monte's video of the no turn cast. The first time I tried that everything changed. I used to hit my 7 iron about 140 meters by attempting to hold lag for as long as possible and all over the show. i know hit my 7 iron 160 meters and mostly straight. Every know and then I pull it left but I now I know it is because I move my head slightly forward and did not have any tilt in my address position. I highly recommend Monte and must admit I cannot wait to get to the golf coarse. Thank you Monte you are my golf idol
@Latebloomergolf
@Latebloomergolf 2 жыл бұрын
Look up Mike Austin. I've played golf for only 8 months and my 7 iron flys 180 yards right to the target. He always said casting from the top was the most powerful way to hit the ball.
@ivansanders8459
@ivansanders8459 7 жыл бұрын
Monte is one of the few golfers on TubeTube talking sense. He'd be my no. 1 choice for taking a golf lesson. LAG IS IRRELEVANT.
@timothydaniels9624
@timothydaniels9624 6 жыл бұрын
Monte Scheinblum is a real athlete and real athletes seem to find ways of simplifying the games we play. Watch his swing, especially with shorter clubs; simple, short backswing, no manipulation of the clubface. His teaching has been pure gold for me.
@thomasfraser9072
@thomasfraser9072 6 жыл бұрын
"Zipper away" " Ten O'Clock back bone" Thanks. In order to simplify and keep my mind off my zipper; At the top of my swing I now will simply trigger my coccyx bone downward an inch as opposes to rotating it along with both sides of my hip simultaneously. Remember golf is pivotal, changing direction and dynamic using both the right and left side of our body and not rotational as one piece. When one side of our body starts the other side automatically kicks in. It's all part of the bones, muscle, and hinges in our 3 dimensional body and our Somatic Nervous System. Thanks for reading.
@TheRafared
@TheRafared 9 жыл бұрын
Monte is a fantastic teacher and swing guru. Well done for getting him to do this video. Ask him to give you a lesson and record it.........that would rack up serious hits.
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
Brian Devitt That is an amazing idea… Stay tuned
@MonteScheinblumRebellionGolf
@MonteScheinblumRebellionGolf 9 жыл бұрын
Agree, let's do it.
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
I shot 70 yesterday, my best score in about 3 years! Also won a little bit of cash $$$
@TheRafared
@TheRafared 9 жыл бұрын
Brendon DeVore See, he has rubbed off by just talking to you.
@l0rdkeithingt0n
@l0rdkeithingt0n 9 жыл бұрын
The comment at 10:30 minutes blew my mind. Upon watching videos of my swing I noticed that my hips stall at impact. I intuitively knew this was wrong, but I had no idea how to search for a fix for this. I had been working on turning and getting through with the lower body because I see all good golfers do that, but I had no idea you could do it too fast. I can't believe i was just randomly watching this video and found this fix. It made so much sense. In fact I was a little annoyed that this guy was disagreeing with so much popular opinion, but I am glad I kept watching. Thanks. My only question is why your hips would stall if your arms were trailing, rather than just pull your arms through? It is hard to believe that your lower body with it being a stronger muscle and the main source of torque would stall just from the centrifugal resistance of the arms.
@looneycollin2143
@looneycollin2143 8 жыл бұрын
I like this video a lot. If you try to hold the lag it just makes for tense wrists. Lag is a result of 1.) loose wrists, 2.) pulling the club down the shaft closer to your body 3.) And always good balance.
@paso193
@paso193 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic informational video. Unfortunately, the 'moderator' needs to slow down and do a better job of listening to the presenter. The butting in was over the top. He interrupted Scheinblum too many times to mention just when he was trying to make critical points. Some of the 'interruptions' seemed to be ego-based on him and his abilities. Let the presenter speak and explain his teaching process without the time wasting comments!
@garrysutton3229
@garrysutton3229 2 жыл бұрын
He never shuts up , it’s the same with every video he does.
@joh10usa
@joh10usa 9 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. A friend told me to watch this and it makes total sense.
@paullazarus790
@paullazarus790 7 жыл бұрын
Monte is the BOSS! EVERYTHING he says makes a ton of sense!
@JayZoop
@JayZoop 8 жыл бұрын
I personally was trying to force lag by tensing my wrists and holding the club back. I fixed that problem by relaxing the wrists with consistent hand pressure through the swing. End with the same hand pressure that you start with. Let the weight of the clubhead bring the club through on it's own.
@dtgps
@dtgps 6 жыл бұрын
@jayZoop, Jack Nicklaus had the same idea. "it looks like I'm purposely delaying the release of the club. But I can assure you I never tried to delay the hit or retain my wrist cock. That happens naturally, if you start with a proper grip, maintain a light grip pressure and keep your arms relaxed. It's impossible to release the club too early in the downswing -- as long as you move to your left side and swing the club from inside the target line."
@casilatino
@casilatino 5 жыл бұрын
Here is what is so special about having Brendon in these videos as a commentator and student as well, Brendon is a representative of most of the viewers problems and he asks questions that the viewers have been wanting to ask instructors. He is our representative. That is what is so different about Be Better Golf! Don't criticize him for interrupting because he is asking questions that other students would like to ask too. Good job Brendon.
@ronharris1698
@ronharris1698 6 жыл бұрын
The topics covered in this video should be in a book. You answer what should be our "pursuit" verses what is a "result" of. We golfers are soo desperate to improve we are misfocused. We work on hitting the ball further instead working on our approach shots to the green. When my "pursuit" was to hit more green in regulation, it "resulted" in more pars and birdies (lower score). Ever beginner needs to see this video first.
@cyuiyuwyguiyui
@cyuiyuwyguiyui 6 жыл бұрын
Been a L.D Champ,talks in a easy understandable way,seems very nice. No wonder if he is popular... :o)
@larrybud
@larrybud 9 жыл бұрын
I've taken a couple of video lessons from Monte, and he's the real deal. 3 weeks after the first lesson, and me working on what he gave me, I shot my best round ever (70... damn you 69!), with some really solid ball striking. Now with the last lesson, and working on that for a few months, I've regained distance that I haven't had in literally 10 years (I'm 46 now). In fact just yesterday I reach a par 5 in which I've only reached in 2 one time before. Too bad he's 2500 miles away. PS please invest in better mics! ;-)
@joshcolbert5613
@joshcolbert5613 4 жыл бұрын
Key tip to get you're back swing started off correctly make sure you're chin is up in the air over the ball that creates a percent path to start out you're swing and you're won't come inside nearly as much.
@sw-sq5gk
@sw-sq5gk 7 жыл бұрын
Monte, i wanted to thank you for finally making me understand the cause for coming over the top and hitting pulls. After i tried the early release and especially throwing the left arm off the body it was like i light came on. Perfect shaft lean, no more pulls. And as an added bonus i seem to make contact in the sweet-spot most of the time. I am a 4 now, could never get lower cause my game was just so inconsistent. This will most certainly change now. It is just hard to believe for me that golf is being taught completely wrong (at least in my experience).
@ranmangolf
@ranmangolf 9 жыл бұрын
I wish I saw this video about 15 years ago.
@chrismilligan7998
@chrismilligan7998 6 жыл бұрын
me too my man!
@Scratch_Monsters_Golf
@Scratch_Monsters_Golf 5 жыл бұрын
First, I want to let you know I’m really enjoying your channel. Lots of great instruction from some great swing coaches. Please don’t take this the wrong way, because I really do appreciate what you’re doing by getting this info out to the masses, but your constant interruptions make it really difficult to watch. I played D1 college golf and almost 15 years later I currently play to a 0.2 handicap. Because of this, I was recently asked to work with several young students to get their games to the next level. These videos are a great resource and I want to see your guest instructors continue working with you, but I’ve noticed them trying to hide a hint of frustration at times when you interrupt for the hundredth time. If one of my players continually interrupted me the way you do these guys, I would assume he isn’t truly listening to the point I’m trying to get across. What is the point of me trying to help if the student isn’t listening anyway? You are asking them for help, not vice versa, so obviously they are the expert. Please allow the experts to speak without derailing their train of thought with a question that doesn’t add any value to the conversation. I realize that might sound like I’m just being a dick about it, but reading through the comments it’s obvious I’m not the only one who noticed it. I think it will make your videos much easier to watch and who knows, maybe the coaches say something invaluable in the time you would’ve taken up with questions. It’s just my opinion and it’s the internet so I understand it doesn’t mean shit, but hopefully you will work on it. Keep putting out great content and your channel will grow more quickly than you think 👌🏼
@michaelmueller4116
@michaelmueller4116 7 жыл бұрын
Is there a lesson in here somewhere????
@samiam1150
@samiam1150 9 жыл бұрын
Do you think that you could wrap your mike in foam rubber to eliminate the wind noise.
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
samiam1150 Yeah, good point, it was raining that day, annoying I know
@TomSuttergolf
@TomSuttergolf 3 жыл бұрын
Very good information.
@plentyofouts
@plentyofouts 8 жыл бұрын
Monte I think it would be beneficial to do a video explaining how lag when looking from face on at the player is actually largely an illusion. When the club shallows and lays back behind the player on the way down the appearance is an increase in lag. Garcia is the poster child for this. It's not to do with super flexibility in the wrists but how much the club shallows. The club is moving into the third dimension which is not seen on the two dimensional screen from face on. It looks like a big increase in wrist set but it isn't. This misconception is what leads people down the wrong path.
@Yoohoo2949
@Yoohoo2949 Жыл бұрын
You nailed it.
@looneycollin2143
@looneycollin2143 8 жыл бұрын
I recently found tremendous ground power by putting weight on my back heel on the back swing. You feel more connected to the ground that way. I'm more balanced on set-up but weight goes on the heel on the top back swing.
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 8 жыл бұрын
+JayZoop I will try that, I need to get more grounded and get my lower body chipping in.
@JayZoop
@JayZoop 8 жыл бұрын
+BE BETTER GOLF Please let me know how that works for you. I too am just a passionate golfer and have recently discovered this. I've watched a few professional golfers in slow motion and that's pretty much what I believe they are doing.
@looneycollin2143
@looneycollin2143 8 жыл бұрын
+BE BETTER GOLF Sir. I was doing what I was saying of putting more weight on back of foot but it started to cause me to straighten my back leg too much. If it locks out, that's very bad. Always maintain an athletic stance with your back leg bent.
@dtgps
@dtgps 6 жыл бұрын
weight goes to the back heel during the BS. By the time you reach the top of BS, COG (weight) should be on left heel(lead ) for balanced power.
@theflashingblade283
@theflashingblade283 7 жыл бұрын
Best advice I ever got was to swing under the body not around the body...
@Yoohoo2949
@Yoohoo2949 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain more fully please?
@A-FrameWedge
@A-FrameWedge 6 жыл бұрын
To get shaft lean the right elbow has got to be in front of the right hip from when club shaft is parallel to ground on downswing and you need to to to try and get that elbow in front of the hip from the top of the backswing. A lot of the best ball strikers Hogan, Snead did not drop their hands straight down or even behind them from the top of their swing but moved their hands from the top of the swing out a little towards the ball and this will shallow the club, and this done more easily if you don’t suck the club head inside on backswing. I’ve seen Tiger Woods hit snap hooks with hands in front of ball with the driver.
@garyinderry
@garyinderry 7 жыл бұрын
Brendan - please get Monte and Malaska on tape together. 7mins 40 - yes it does freak people out and takes an age to rewire your head to 'get it'. an over the top feeling from the inside in a strange alien world for someone who drops it way behind on the downswing. Ive had some success with the Malaska feeling and hit some amazing shots but still need some work. Also on a separate subject I have struggled with fat contact for about 2years now. I also had quite a bit of shaft lean at address thinking this is where I want to be at impact. last week I decided I would try and copy some playing partners and after watching some pro videos I tried setting up with a near vertical shaft at address. Net result was ball then turf contact and obviously nice de lofted club at impact. silly game of opposites golf.
@ashleyroberts9219
@ashleyroberts9219 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@76MUTiger
@76MUTiger 5 жыл бұрын
I started golf at 40. After 3 years was a 16. Today I am an 8. I took a LOT of lessons to get there.
@Latebloomergolf
@Latebloomergolf 2 жыл бұрын
I started playing golf last summer at age 35 . My last 9 holes was 3 over par before winter. Mike Austin was the king of teaching the golf swing look him up.
@wordofmo
@wordofmo 6 жыл бұрын
I have a tough time accepting what is said at eight minutes. The idea that you can have the same lag from when your arms are at 8 or 9 o’clock as at impact is not utilizing the nunchuck effect. Your body rotates at a certain speed, your arms move a little faster and your wrists are moving a lot faster. Each previous connection is making the next connection faster. When that’s done efficiently, good clubhead speed is almost effortless. So if your wrists are in the same position at 8 o’clock or 9 o’clock all the way through impact, you’re losing all the clubhead speed that the wrists can generate. It would be like using nunchucks where both pieces of wood are fixed at the same position and when you swing one, the other one moves at the exact same speed. That defeats the whole purpose of the physics.
@iownthepowned
@iownthepowned 8 жыл бұрын
Its so weird because these are exactly my problems but no youtube instructors ever address them. Ive filmed myself trying to fire the arms first and my lower body always starts the sequence, even when im not trying to. I've painted myself into a corner at this point because I mentally equate power with lower body rotation, and it's very difficult retraining the move. Any suggestions?
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 8 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Costello I am still working on it and probably always will. No turn and cast helps
@stevegrant1019
@stevegrant1019 7 жыл бұрын
Ryan Costello
@Goathockey10
@Goathockey10 6 жыл бұрын
If your brain can’t process a new motor movement in the time it takes to get from the top of the swing to the ball, how does tiger stop mid downswing?
@briangriffin928
@briangriffin928 8 жыл бұрын
GOOD TEACHER, IT WORKS
@shiftymeister
@shiftymeister 8 жыл бұрын
funny How this Video describes a Lot of the exact things that I am dealing with.
@sethgelnette5324
@sethgelnette5324 3 жыл бұрын
Did this work for you
@shiftymeister
@shiftymeister 3 жыл бұрын
@@sethgelnette5324 dayum brother that was 4 years ago. Anyway, I learned that artifical lag is poison and if you succeed doing it you'll end up with push and hook shots (happened to me). Just stay in sync. Trying the opposite actually solved my issues.
@killerbeest1
@killerbeest1 9 жыл бұрын
when tiger Woods began to work with butch, butch also told him to throw the club/start downswing with arms. Because tiger also got stuck, same as mentioned in this video
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
+yourik van beek Yeah those old golf channel academies with tiger and butch are awesome.
@dtgps
@dtgps 6 жыл бұрын
Tigers knee and back problems began when Butch steepened Tigers arm swing in DS. Steep arms in DS, locks hips and arms swing against lead knee and spine as a result. (newtons law: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction).
@seanr521
@seanr521 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting chat.
@justjames1111
@justjames1111 6 жыл бұрын
Hogan was a fantastic ball-striker, but the guy worked at it 8 hrs a day and more, thus learning how to make the adjustments needed. Very few people have that sort of mentality, time, commitment or desire, so it makes me wonder why it's so revered.
@Yoohoo2949
@Yoohoo2949 Жыл бұрын
Yes. My golf hero is Bruce Lietzke. He practiced about as much as I do, which is never! But I have a L.O.F.T. problem.
@VoodooZ
@VoodooZ 9 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff!
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
Stephane Gauthier Thanks SG, stay tuned, shooting more with Monte this week
@draino3140
@draino3140 8 жыл бұрын
Did you have mics? It is hard to hear you both talking. Interesting tho
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 8 жыл бұрын
+Draino 31 Thanks, working on getting better production equipment.
@draino3140
@draino3140 8 жыл бұрын
I have done his 90 90 drill and it is very good. About the Mics.... If you don't have two, it is better to run the built in camera mics than one on Monte and none on you. It is easier to edit later too as I'm sure you will agree ! You had a quiet area with no lawnmower so you would have been fine. Keep up the good work we will be watching
@mattkaminski3953
@mattkaminski3953 8 жыл бұрын
I can hear it fine.
@stsingh1979
@stsingh1979 5 жыл бұрын
Please come to South Africa to teach.
@davep007007
@davep007007 6 жыл бұрын
You are close to the issue of the hips causing stuck flips and over all bad timing of the arms but you left out one key ingredient. Separation from lower body to upper body. The reason quick hips don’t work for so many players and the reason why throwing the club in works for better players that have issues is because the firing of the hips makes the left shoulder move immediately for most. Your zipper move is so great because it moves the lower body left without rotation. That shift backing into the ball hogan called it is the magic move. What most don’t understand is that fast hips makes most non phenoms steep early. When you rotate fast hips and you don’t have Cameron champ flexibility the upper body is out of the shot early and the athletic mind will drop the club quickly so the player in you can deliver the club from the inside. The key to fast hips is separation. If you can’t get the separation then you need your best sequence timing you can get. For most that play the game at a high level they have determined their sequence abilities. For others that listen to the rhetoric they can go a life time never having shallowed the club properly and creating the maximum flat spot. I would love to see you do a video with this in mind. You can not site stalling hips as a problem. Cameron Champ and several others disprove that. Rory too. His go backwards during the release. In fact in order for one body segment to speed up another has to slow down. You are close. Keep working on the chain of motion, the hips are the culprit but for a chosen few they can crank the hips as much as they want. Key on why they can and others can’t and people will improve. Fast hips and less than tour elite separation equals steepness from the top which equals early extension of every important angle.
@squidly2112
@squidly2112 6 жыл бұрын
Lag most certainly is NOT irrelevant! ... Monte is correct that it is not a pursuit but is a result. If you are properly allowing your wrists to naturally hinge and properly release WITHOUT any effort applied, you will automatically and naturally produce a TREMENDOUS amount of lag. This is EXACTLY how the pro's play. Think super floppy wrists. Use your core to drive your swing allowing your arms to follow (like a car & trailer, car=core, trailer=arms.chest.etc...) and without ANY manipulation of your hands or wrists, allow the club to unload all by itself. It is a difficult thing to master at first as it is difficult to trust the "release" will happen properly, but once perfected you will understand exactly how the top pro players in the world achieve lag and achieve extremely consistent ball striking. The key ---> TAKE YOUR WRISTS AND HANDS OUT OF THE EQUATION!!! ... Pro players do NOT play golf with their hands .. they play golf with their BODY!!
@dtgps
@dtgps 6 жыл бұрын
very well put, Squidly2112. Its about levers and how to effectively multiply torque using leverage. Wrists are free hinges and hands become part of the golf club lever.
@Concordeagle
@Concordeagle 5 жыл бұрын
Someone tell Rory, DJ, Brooks, and Tiger know that they're doing it wrong. You can clearly see their lower bodies starting their downswing BEFORE their arms reach the TOP of the backswing!
@A-FrameWedge
@A-FrameWedge 6 жыл бұрын
When he is talking how Hogan had longer arms and that is why he could have his right arm bent is wrong, first Hogan set up to the ball with both arms bent. It wouldn’t matter how long your arms are if you setup with them straight at impact, and Hogan lowered his head and upper body at impact compared to his setup so he could have that right elbow bent at impact or it was just a cause and effect scenario. Look at players that had the bent right elbow at impact Trevino, Hogan, J.B. Holmes (who has short arms by the way as does Trevino) all their heads drop considerably on the downswing.
@zacharydmoser
@zacharydmoser 6 жыл бұрын
Did you see these players in real life swinging ? or did you use video which is 2 dimensions and making 3D interpretations , have you not notice yet the television is an illusion and can only draw assumptions from it
@jakeglisson4059
@jakeglisson4059 8 жыл бұрын
man i would love to play you in a match play but we are not close enough to play
@MonteScheinblumRebellionGolf
@MonteScheinblumRebellionGolf 9 жыл бұрын
50% commission
@jasonsechrist1
@jasonsechrist1 6 жыл бұрын
Monte Scheinblum I've been getting conflicting views on the right hand in the swing. I used to be a good iron player, but I took advice from several KZbin videos and teachers that say grip the club lightly and lead with the left. Well this absolutely ruined my swing. It kept getting worse and worse and a couple of weeks ago I was close to throwing my clubs in the dumpster. Then I tried one thing, I gripped the club harder with my right hand and used more of my right side. I proceeded to hit two whole buckets as straight and long as you could imagine. I honestly think that if you have a free flowing swing like Bobby Jones the advice of light grip pressure and using the left to dictate will work, but if you swing like Hogan you have to be aggressive with the right. Why do teachers insist on changing the swing of amatuer golfers to make the look like a certain golfer instead of just fixing a few flaws and keeping the swing as natural as possible.
@paulpm
@paulpm 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Part 2 up next Wednesday
@paulpm
@paulpm 9 жыл бұрын
Brendon DeVore Sweet....Monte is coming to Chicago this weekend. I have a two-hour lesson with him. He might quit teaching after/during my lesson :-)
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
Haha, glad I got to him first then!
@Latebloomergolf
@Latebloomergolf 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Austin always said cast from the top. I live by Mike Austin's swing and I eat golf balls
@fdllicks
@fdllicks 9 жыл бұрын
Ive never given a dam about lag. Its a fad of our time as far as Im concerned. Good to hear Im not alone.
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
+fdllicks Yep
@LTR1420
@LTR1420 8 жыл бұрын
A fad of our time? You realize Ben Hogan, one of the best ever, had incredible lag right? I do agree that most people try to force it though, which usually has a bad result.
@emncaity
@emncaity 8 жыл бұрын
+madskrillz2 He "had it," but only for a moment in his swing. It's a result of other things happening the right way, not really something to seek of itself. If you see somebody throwing the club early, it's symptomatic of some other problem or just a wrong concept in the swing. Ernest Jones would've called it an attempt to "lever" rather than swing.
@96RHE
@96RHE 8 жыл бұрын
I think the "fad" is the obsession with creating tons of lag. If you key in on creating it, it seems it's difficult to swing correctly. It needs to become a result, as Monte perfectly said while I type this, not something you chase.
@Yoohoo2949
@Yoohoo2949 Жыл бұрын
@@LTR1420 Hogan had a flatter shaft which appears to have more lag. But take a pic of yourself at arms waist high with wrists in a fully cocked position. Then take another pic of same wrist angle but lay the shaft down (backward) toward the ground. You'll see that the last pic looks like a lot more lag, but it isn't. It's an optical illusion.
@robertproben2022
@robertproben2022 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry!, but, alot of great players have played taking the club way inside on the back swing. such as Ray Floyd, Bruce Leitski and Nancy Lopez just to name a few! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
@A-FrameWedge
@A-FrameWedge 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Proben But most people don’t have their talent or are able to play as much golf to keep the timing needed to make that swing work, Bruce Leitski was the exception but he was an enigma.
@kenharcombe7976
@kenharcombe7976 6 жыл бұрын
monty i love you your using cliche to exsplain cliche perfecrt!!
@camillo1234
@camillo1234 7 жыл бұрын
they talk about cookie cutter styles and lessons, but the way they judge what happens when you do a certain thing, like bringing the club way in at the beginning of the backstroke is really cookie cutter. byron nelson took it way inside and didnt have to roll the club over.
@joeface03
@joeface03 6 жыл бұрын
Damn man. Quit interrupting the coaches in your videos. For F's sake man. You have 2 ears and 1 mouth, use them proportionally. JFC.
@tchwiss
@tchwiss 6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. What's worse, his comments are often a misrepresentation or misunderstanding of what Monte says....sometimes they are completely wrong. Please, SHUT UP DUDE
@Randsurfer
@Randsurfer 5 жыл бұрын
@@tchwiss On top of that, Monte is a good communicator, he doesn't need anyone messing wit his flow.
@Randsurfer
@Randsurfer 5 жыл бұрын
@@xichaomo9886 I just had a laugh. The beginning of the video shows "Disruptive voices in golf".. I don't think the video creator meant to refer to himself as being disruptive, even though that's what we're complaining about here. Irony, methinks.
@justineller6718
@justineller6718 5 жыл бұрын
I was getting so angry every time he interrupted him
@Scratch_Monsters_Golf
@Scratch_Monsters_Golf 5 жыл бұрын
It makes these videos which are full of great instruction almost too hard to watch. It’s just common courtesy and manners. No one watching this video clicked on it to hear anyone other than Monte talk. It would be different if his questions added value, but they’re often random as hell and completely detour the coach’s train of thought. Let the experts talk for the love of God.
@jw2par
@jw2par 6 жыл бұрын
He keeps cutting him off ! Smh
@squidly2112
@squidly2112 6 жыл бұрын
His little section about hips stopping and starting is not necessarily accurate. Just go watch Rory McIlroy, one of the longest players on tour and top 10 player in the world. His hips do EXACTLY that, and is one of the reasons why he has the fastest rotational speed on tour, by a LONG SHOT! .... In short, while some of what Monte says is good, he is also disseminating a lot of myths. Look, it's simply .. the golf swing is purely physiology and mechanics. There is nothing "magical" about it.
@Yoohoo2949
@Yoohoo2949 Жыл бұрын
The women rotate their hips faster than the men and hit it shorter.
5 жыл бұрын
4:20 got that right
@melissawallace5409
@melissawallace5409 6 жыл бұрын
It's clear these guy don't know what swing circle erosion is. If you knew that you could consistently create lag and more of it on demand. A young man showed me this years ago. But in all fairness he doesn't usually talk about it. He hit his 6 iron constantly 245 yards. lol 5 iron- I saw him pound it 270. And he said he wasn't that good.
@MrRidge7
@MrRidge7 5 жыл бұрын
No one is hitting their 6 iron 245 yards casually.
@goathumper111
@goathumper111 2 жыл бұрын
So enlighten us, please
@melissawallace5409
@melissawallace5409 2 жыл бұрын
​@@MrRidge7 Study Mike Auston- A 64 year old man who hit his "Wooden Driver" 515 yards. The fundamentals I spoke of are hidden in his swing. And yeah he was crushing the ball most likely 245 or better with a 6 iron. I mean Mike was Driving the ball 350 yrds right up until he was 77 years old. Why did he stop hitting it 350- He had a stroke! :-)
@melissawallace5409
@melissawallace5409 2 жыл бұрын
@@goathumper111 See my reply to Ridgey. Sorry I didn't see this sooner.
@melissawallace5409
@melissawallace5409 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrRidge7 You will find in my comment I stated the young man hit it constantly. It appear that he was using his strength, so I would agree with your his was not swinging casually.
@dickturnip504
@dickturnip504 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I've seen of Monte Scheinblum. He is VERY good, but the interviewer is annoying in the extreme, with his constant interruptions, usually when Mr. Scheinblum is just about to tell us the important part!!!.
@shofey
@shofey Жыл бұрын
Older players can't swing out lag, they compensate by late cast.
@genehorn606
@genehorn606 9 жыл бұрын
Still no audio
@BEBETTERGOLF
@BEBETTERGOLF 9 жыл бұрын
Gene Horn It's working on my end.
@dreadgolf
@dreadgolf 6 жыл бұрын
AAAAmen. Too much cookie cutter one size fits all teaching..Been saying it, and glad to hear it validated from a real teacher and pro
@richardstevens9632
@richardstevens9632 6 жыл бұрын
Wish Monte would quit interrupting the teacher....
@mortgageknowledgeacademy
@mortgageknowledgeacademy 4 жыл бұрын
I just wish Brendan would stop demonstrating things for the camera, let Monte demonstrate!!
@nonstopscott007
@nonstopscott007 7 жыл бұрын
You could stop resting the club on your peice bud.
@ST-xg3gy
@ST-xg3gy 2 жыл бұрын
Monte!
@vimalmittal5603
@vimalmittal5603 6 жыл бұрын
Just say what you are supposed to do?
@clintonjonker8474
@clintonjonker8474 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have videos and slow mo where the action can be seen. Talking only does so much
@gerarddaelemans7262
@gerarddaelemans7262 8 жыл бұрын
When the human body is asked to follow a formula (by the world of bad golf teaching) it will ALWAYS lead to failure. Always. Monte is dead on that today's golf instruction is actually inhibiting the improvement of the amateur golfers swing. USGA studies that show a persons game levels off after 3 years is proof of this. This is because, in the background of our experience, we think the golf swing can be achieved by the 'cause and effect' model of performance; the Newtonian physics approach to getting results. Little children know nothing of Newtonian physics and yet the figure out how to stand up and walk. It's about 'awareness'. Being aware of what the body is already doing, being aware of the difference in feel of one movement vs. another. It's called discovery. Little children are operating from this paradigm as they learn to work. The poor sad sack amateur golfer however, gets snookered into thinking formulas/ swing thoughts, are the path to improvement. Nope. that always leads to failure. Keep being the anarchist you are Monte' ,,the golf world needs you!
@dtgps
@dtgps 6 жыл бұрын
Bad teaching puts focus on movement of body parts. Successful focus is external on the club, as children do.
@jackduggan3620
@jackduggan3620 8 жыл бұрын
These guys are selling bologna!
@vimalmittal5603
@vimalmittal5603 6 жыл бұрын
All BS and selling pitch.
@fradaja
@fradaja 5 жыл бұрын
Christ. I'm confused
@riddler5
@riddler5 2 жыл бұрын
Too much sidebar to get to the substance of your videos.
@lobedwonder
@lobedwonder 5 жыл бұрын
..totally stupid..so unnatural way of teaching...he needs to incorporate a natural move we all do naturally in our lives like throwing something....
@michaelmueller4116
@michaelmueller4116 7 жыл бұрын
Very difficult to follow
@cgasucks
@cgasucks 7 жыл бұрын
Michael Mueller only intermediate or low handicap players would understand.
@edomingox
@edomingox 5 жыл бұрын
If you lose your lag, you lose your power. This sounds very opposite of what every PGA tour player says they do. And this video's sound quality is awful.
@jackduggan3620
@jackduggan3620 8 жыл бұрын
What a "maroon".
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