Becker BK62 vs. Esee PR4: Which Kephart Knife Will Stand Above the Rest?

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Ochoco Bushcraft

Ochoco Bushcraft

Күн бұрын

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@russelllieser4226
@russelllieser4226 4 жыл бұрын
Shocking the BK62 came dull I have a BK2 and it came wicked sharp. Great video thanks for your time.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You for watching!
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 3 жыл бұрын
My BK-62 also came dull.....
@matt_balomenos
@matt_balomenos 5 жыл бұрын
I have the kabar Becker kephart and mine came shaving sharp. Its my favorite knife to date.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 5 жыл бұрын
It is a nice knife. I think Kephart made a great design!
@maxtoll8290
@maxtoll8290 3 жыл бұрын
Mine came butter knife sharp. Took a while to put a decent edge on it.
@charless8641
@charless8641 11 ай бұрын
I felt the same about the handle but after using it for about a year I really like it, I have not had a issue with hot spots even with prolonged use. I also have a LT Right knife that has a similar handle and I like it a lot the difference is the LT Right is thicker and definitely a better fit for my xl hands. Great video and thanks for sharing. 😃
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@nuancolar7304
@nuancolar7304 3 жыл бұрын
It's not an exact a Kephart design, but you could try the Firecraft FC4. You get the 4" blade, and it has a rounded spine with a ferro notch. You can strike a ferro, but you still have plenty of push surface on the spine that won't kill your thumb.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@therealkarlcolt7116
@therealkarlcolt7116 5 жыл бұрын
Hey... I have that becker. I use it for cutting open cans with no pop top. Good review
@alancalkins2656
@alancalkins2656 2 ай бұрын
I've owned the pr4 for about 5 years as my only camp knife. I've batoned it through 3.5 inch knotty pine and birch a LOT, carved a hatchet handle from a chunk of fire wood without getting hot spots, and with a lanyard it makes a damn good tiny chopper. Holds an edge well, but it's so easy to sharpen I'm not beyond digging a hole with it if need be 😅l
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 2 ай бұрын
You definitely put it through it's paces. Mine also did everything I ever asked it to do, and held up perfectly.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 2 ай бұрын
You definitely put it through it's paces. Mine also did everything I ever asked it to do, and held up perfectly.
@seanwhite304
@seanwhite304 3 жыл бұрын
Esee and Bark River are my favorite fixed blade companies.
@ffoxyff
@ffoxyff 5 жыл бұрын
Very good comparison of the two. Wish Eathon Becker had made the 4 inch model.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. A 4" version would be awesome!
@bereantrb
@bereantrb 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Russel It wouldn’t surprise me if they do since the original was sold in both sizes. If they have any plans on doing so they probably needed to test the market with one model first.
@fredcourtney03
@fredcourtney03 2 жыл бұрын
I think the fact that you had to sharpen the Becker out of the box is a big difference and Gives the edge to the Esee. The coating on the blade will also help with rust in the Deep South where I live. I love the BK 62 but I think I have to give it to Esee PR 4. Just my input. Thanks
@jordy703
@jordy703 4 жыл бұрын
Bought the PR4 after my Mora Garberg and i love it. Indeed the handles looks awesome but for comfort maybe a broomstick handle would have been better i think. My opinion is the same the Becker looks authentic but its to large for me. Perfect review and clear thank u sir.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@codycox2685
@codycox2685 3 жыл бұрын
TKC has an upgrades set of scales now. They make a difference. Look great too.
@MTwoodsrunner
@MTwoodsrunner 4 жыл бұрын
I love the heat treat Becker uses on their 1095 cro-van...not crazy about their edge geometry, but with a slight adjustment to the edge profile...WOW! a huge difference! A tough and long wearing steel for sure! What slowed down the esee through the summer sausage was its sabre grind...i think the esee came with a better edge geometry and that why it slipped so easily through the skin of the tomato...atb...woods
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input! I appreciate hearing from a fellow fan of Becker and Esee.
@centurycity
@centurycity 3 жыл бұрын
Summer sausage I am getting me some . Great review thanks.
@lorenray9479
@lorenray9479 3 жыл бұрын
My new hobby may now be modifying old work knives into kepharts. I found an old full flat grind to make into a small knife like those you are showing. Just need to find quality rivets or screws for knife handles. A tool to cut/ shape blades seems to be a necessity. Belt sander also!
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 3 жыл бұрын
Would like to see your finished work.
@lanceschultz7132
@lanceschultz7132 2 жыл бұрын
Just need corby bolts or loveless. Easy to order.
@lorenray9479
@lorenray9479 2 жыл бұрын
Made 2. One a little rough blade, but antique high carbon blades are premium to use out of doors. Even blackberry vines submit to my kephart blades! Strikes a rod like a sparkler on the 4th of july! Butchers chickens too. Opens paint cans great! Love my kepharts for EDC! Legal, safe and sane!!!
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 4 жыл бұрын
I made one with a 4.5" blade, that's the sweet spot for me.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@blackhawkbushcraft
@blackhawkbushcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Love Esee and Becker/Ka-bar! 👍 I don't own either of these Kephart style knives, but there’s always room for “just one more knife.” 😆 I love Kephart inspired designs-simple and they just work well! 👍 Probably the closest Kephart-ish I own and use is the LT Wright Genesis. Love that knife! 👍 It’s not a traditional Kephart knife, but I’m pretty darn sure Kephart was the influence behind the design.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 2 жыл бұрын
Well, since there's always room for one more, I think you might really like the PR4. My favorite bushcraft knife, with handles from the Knife connection . L.T. Wright does have some very nice knives.
@blackhawkbushcraft
@blackhawkbushcraft 2 жыл бұрын
@@ochocobushcraft1742 Just might have to pick one up. 👍😁
@margaretadler6162
@margaretadler6162 4 жыл бұрын
I have had my BK62 for over a year, came very sharp I love it!
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
I do really like the knife a lot! I think it was a fluke that I got one not sharp. Thank You for watching!
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 3 жыл бұрын
Not a fluke.....mine was also dull.....
@abandonedotter4270
@abandonedotter4270 Жыл бұрын
The Becker is great but man, they're proud of it.
@starlingblack814
@starlingblack814 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan for a great comparison and review.
@madedigital
@madedigital Жыл бұрын
well from other youtuber he said the Kepheart is not a Full flat grind this is a major detail most have missed ..Its a full convex fromspine edge tear drop fatter in the middle helps with splitting and carving wood. with that being said it spiked my interest more to the point i want one ...therefore Bark river is the only way to go then the Becker.
@garyjacobs2789
@garyjacobs2789 5 жыл бұрын
The extra inch blade cames to play if you every have to use the knife as weapon. All my fixed blades are between 4 and five . Perfect length for a do it all knife. That is reason these knives were a favorite of these famous woodsmen . All just remember all knives at time were stone sharped. All five it gets to be a pain .
@TimeAttack2003
@TimeAttack2003 7 ай бұрын
Customize EVERY knife you purchase to YOUR preference! You dont ruin it you simply make it awesome for YOUR use!
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 7 ай бұрын
Exactly
@James-ke5sx
@James-ke5sx 5 ай бұрын
If Becker could have made a second version 1 inch smaller that would have been a hit. I ordered the Becker. I have a Esee 4 & 6 but I have wanted something in between with an uncoated blade, nothing fancy.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 5 ай бұрын
I would have liked that also.
@francissobotka8725
@francissobotka8725 2 жыл бұрын
My pr4 is my new edc knife .I replaced the scales with tkc scales and its damn near perfect .
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more! The PR4 is my go to knife in camp. A true joy to use.
@Bamboothought
@Bamboothought 4 жыл бұрын
I too prefer a soft spine , but the extra blade length is very handy when poking around in the fire..
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, thank you for watching!
@SupermanBB
@SupermanBB Жыл бұрын
All knives are heat treated and tempered by heat to exact temperatures to achieve their hardness. I’d be very careful “poking around in the fire” with any knife, as there’s a good chance you’ll ruin the temper near the edge. Lowering the hardness and drastically reducing edge retention
@Airik1111bibles
@Airik1111bibles 3 жыл бұрын
Ontario Sk5 is also a great kephart design .
@grumpyuncle.
@grumpyuncle. 9 ай бұрын
This is good content. Thank you for sharing!
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Pharto_Stinkus
@Pharto_Stinkus 4 жыл бұрын
I own both of these, in addition to a few other kephart inspired knives. Neither of these is my favorite, but I do prefer the Esee in general. While FFG knives are great in the woods, and easy to sharpen, I personally prefer a saber grind. Also, Aesthetically the Esse is a better looking knife. This matters to me. I don't subscribe to the whole idea that a "real" bushcraft knife should be plain, simple, and ugly. In addition to a knife performing the way I want it to, looking at it has to bring me joy, the Esee does, the Becker doesn't. Knives are very personal. Just because Kephart preferred this shape, this handle, and a FFG, doesn't mean it's the "best" knife for the job, or that other configurations won't work. Kephart, Kochanski, Canterbury, and Mears, arguably the most well-known and recognized experts in bushcraft and woodlore, each prefer a different type of knife. The two people I learned most of my outdoors stuff from, my uncle and my step-father, generally preferred Buck knives, and did everything that needed to be done, well, with those knives (usually a 119, but sometimes others).
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad was also a huge fan of Buck. Found Esee on my own over time and really like the brand, and of course the warranty. Thank You for sharing, I appreciate it!
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 3 жыл бұрын
To each his own......
@lonewandererbushcraftwildc6822
@lonewandererbushcraftwildc6822 Жыл бұрын
The original kephart Knife was a double convex neither of these knives have that but the ka bar is the closest to the original in regards to shape
@johnossendorf9979
@johnossendorf9979 3 жыл бұрын
I consider both of these and several other "Kephart" type knives. After much research I went with an Ontario Black Bird SK-5 in 154CM. It came shaving sharp. Unfortunately I haven't had any opportunity to do much with it yet.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 3 жыл бұрын
Let me know how you like it.
@DerekLand
@DerekLand 3 жыл бұрын
I have the SK5, and I'm not particularly fond of it. The handle is a nice material but uncomfortable in actual use. For camp use, I also find the extra 1/2" on it over the PR4 to be unnecessary. Lastly, the steel is great but when it needs sharpening you can't do it in the field; the heat treat Esee puts on the PR4 is superb, and mostly only needs a few swipes on the strop to bring the edge back enough for more use. i also found typical Ontario QC evidence: Some come finished great, mine didn't. The components that make the knife are good quality and Blackbird is the sum of it's parts. ...but the finished product of the PR4 is more than the sum of it's parts. The Blackbird is a great knife, very capable. It's just not as robust IMO as the PR4.
@MaNi-cn7to
@MaNi-cn7to 3 жыл бұрын
Thx for vid! i have Condor Kephart and Becker, Condor in my opinion is superior.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will take a look at the Condor.
@PistolPointer
@PistolPointer 5 жыл бұрын
Great review. Really like both of these knives but tend to grab the PR4. Just picked up an Ontario Blackbird SK4 though. It may pick up some of the use. I may do a video showing it next to these two for a comparison.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Would like to see you do that video. I have never used a Blackbird.
@lonewandererbushcraftwildc6822
@lonewandererbushcraftwildc6822 Жыл бұрын
I also prefer my knives to have a sharp spine for bark scraping or fat wood scraping I don't use a sharp spine for ferro rod
@luisloya1120
@luisloya1120 5 ай бұрын
The Becker's walnut handle will swell when wet.😮
@andyhooutdoors
@andyhooutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
Just saw your video and I just wanted to say that I have owned the PR4 for a year and a half now and the handle is not posing an issue for me. I too lament about the rather thin handle and was worried it will produce hot spots when doing tasks like push cuts and so on. Not an issue at all for me. I still wished the handle could be a little thicker, or slightly rounder, but I am fine with what it is. Brought the PR4 to a camping trip in the tropical rainforest of western peninsula Malaysia and it excels tremendously. I brought a second knife there just in case but never used it at all during the trip. I am so hooked on the PR4. I had thought of getting the Becker but the 5” blade length was what puts me off. So after watching your video I don’t feel I need the Becker, unless they put out another one with a 4” blade length.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love my PR4! I have a video where i put G10 handles on it and they are amazing! It is called Esee PR4 Handle Upgrade. I think you will like it. Thank you for watching.
@andyhooutdoors
@andyhooutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
Ochoco Bushcraft Oh yes. I know there is the handle upgrade available from The Knife Connection. That is where I purchased the PR4 from, but I love the mountain texturing on the PR4 which I think makes the whole knife look so cool, and so I decided to stick with the original. Would be great if I could get liners for it though.
@norby0418
@norby0418 3 жыл бұрын
Personally for me 4” is just a bit too short I prefer 4.5 to 5” so I would prefer the BK. I am making a Kephart with a 4.5” blade out of an Old Hickory butcher knife.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it will be a great knife. Would like to see a picture when it's done.
@freddyg6940
@freddyg6940 5 ай бұрын
At 8:40 said “slice the tomatoes” and Press Cut almost a chop 😂
@johnpetry6753
@johnpetry6753 3 жыл бұрын
Micarta scales are now available from KABAR.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You! I will check them out.
@scottsmith6571
@scottsmith6571 4 жыл бұрын
Have both like both
@CrimsonSurvival
@CrimsonSurvival 8 ай бұрын
It’s a give and take, both knives have their advantages and drawbacks. I like them both. Good video, brother.✝️👍🏻
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Greatly appreciated!
@EJWilliamson-h9n
@EJWilliamson-h9n Жыл бұрын
Also if you are looking for a fire starter try a blast match
@navigator1372
@navigator1372 8 ай бұрын
I'm betting the joker trampero will out slice and out notch both of them. It's the joker kephart. It's stainless steel. Still, there's something to be said about the sturdiness of esee 1095 and the cool look. Trampero has better ergos than both of them. 81 bux on Amazon. Micarta or wood handles and nice leather dangler sheath
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 8 ай бұрын
This will probably be the last new knife I test for a while. My budget is presently stretched thin. Thankfully I have some manufacturers sending me a few new items to test out.
@scottsmith6571
@scottsmith6571 4 жыл бұрын
Both great knives I’m oredering both
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
NICE! I think you will enjoy them.
@rickeybullington68
@rickeybullington68 4 жыл бұрын
I d take the Becker allday long .
@jtoutdoorsadventures6864
@jtoutdoorsadventures6864 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Esee makes a nice knife. Great upload. I have been wanting to read that book.
@jtoutdoorsadventures6864
@jtoutdoorsadventures6864 5 жыл бұрын
I knew it that's moms cutting board. I love Esee knives
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 5 жыл бұрын
@@jtoutdoorsadventures6864 Yep, that's moms cutting board!!!
@philbossert2790
@philbossert2790 4 жыл бұрын
ML Knives makes a solid Kephart
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Looking Knives . Thanks for watching.!
@navigator1372
@navigator1372 9 ай бұрын
Yeah i think that knife is too long. I have bk16, tops bob (way overbuilt), cold steel drop forged hunter, bps hk1 (best at Bushcraft, mora companion (2nd best bushcrafter) joker montes 2, joker corzo, rat 3, and bk 19. The one that hits the best for utilty. For a balance of bushcraft, food prep, batoning kindling, being light, tactical, skinning, feather sticking is the bk19. As a mention. EVERYONE should have a mora companion as for 25 bux you get a great bushcrafter that weighs next to nothing to complement your companion blade. The sharpest blades out of the box are joker and bps. If you like leather look at the joker montes 2 and corzo for 50 bux. The best utility sheaths are the bk 19 and cold steel drop forged hunter ( a bit overbuilt but simple with 52100 steel) i saw a guy baton chop through thick wood with it and it was taking big chunks. Those two sheaths have many lashing points and i think ambidextrous. Still, I think Becker knives should come with g10 or micarta. My favorite one kinda lacks the cool factor a tad
@sperrinoutdoors7642
@sperrinoutdoors7642 5 жыл бұрын
Nice 1 buddy great upload
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@reddragonreonado6086
@reddragonreonado6086 Ай бұрын
What are the differences between knives with the SMKW symbol? Is there a difference in quality?
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 Ай бұрын
Sorry, but I'm not familiar with this. You might contact them directly and ask.
@jamesmcgee2447
@jamesmcgee2447 Жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻
@johnchastain4351
@johnchastain4351 4 жыл бұрын
If the knife does not have a flat grind it is not a Kephart knife. It is just Kephart inspired. Also, it needs to have pinned scales. I have a BK7 that I like. I purchased a BK62, but sent it back because I did not like it.
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
BK 7 is a great knife! Kephart, or Kephart inspired, the PR 4 along with the BK 16 have become my favorite Bushcraft knives. Thank You for watching!
@navigator1372
@navigator1372 10 ай бұрын
Which nessmuk do you prefer? Becker or esee? I decided to buy the becker cause of the sheath. Im not much into leather
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 10 ай бұрын
I really like the Esee with The Knife Connection handles. Put on.
@scatman8963
@scatman8963 10 ай бұрын
such a shame ka-bar went with a flat grind instead of a convex
@robertphillips3833
@robertphillips3833 4 жыл бұрын
Try a Bark River Kephart in CPM 4V 👍🏻 it’s killer
@mudsslinger
@mudsslinger 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a fan of the scales on the Esse , don't know if there are replacement ones or not
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 3 жыл бұрын
Check out my newest video, "Look What's New From the Knife Connection " to see some of there handles for the PR4. Great handles!
@kevinmorrice
@kevinmorrice 2 жыл бұрын
bk62 wins for me, i just dont like the handle scales on the esee, never liked that kind of extreme texturing
@nitetrekker
@nitetrekker 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tested the TOPS Lite Trekker? I'm trying to decide between it and the PR4. Thanks
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't ever used the Trekker. But I can say that if you decide to go with the PR 4, you won't be dissapointed. It is a knife that feels really good in the hand. As soon as you hold it, you can just tell that it wants to go to work. Thank you for watching!
@kentonward97
@kentonward97 4 жыл бұрын
Just have to remember this knife also was his butcher knife
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, definately great for that! Thanks for watching!
@luisloya1120
@luisloya1120 5 ай бұрын
Esee is Superior & it looks better. The becker looks like a chinese $15 steak knife.
@jasonaffeldt7838
@jasonaffeldt7838 9 ай бұрын
👍👍👍.🇺🇲🔪🔥🌲
@anthonyp7051
@anthonyp7051 5 жыл бұрын
Just sub to ch Thing is once you put a edge after factory it’s done before it began. Knives usually get a more keen edge and stronger as you come up. So for the bk to not be performing well this could be from lack of edge skill I have several ESSE knives and only a couple Bk’s I like your comparison and the biggest thing about the kephart is its drop to center point that is my favorite to use
@ochocobushcraft1742
@ochocobushcraft1742 5 жыл бұрын
Thank You for your input.
@evanjack1466
@evanjack1466 Жыл бұрын
Just get a Cold Steel Master Hunter, Trail Master and a Pendleton mini hunter….
@БогданШпаковский-э6ш
@БогданШпаковский-э6ш 10 ай бұрын
Бомба 💥
@evanjack1466
@evanjack1466 Жыл бұрын
Stick with cold steel you’ll get better performance at half the price
@San.Marco.il.Viaggiatore
@San.Marco.il.Viaggiatore Жыл бұрын
Why is the price (240€) of the Becker so high? It‘s a simple back to the roots knife with no 90• spine, arrived doll, slipper handle, blade too long…hhmmm🤨the Kephart was a poor man’s knife, but well Beckhart is not Kephart… I go with the ESEE🫡
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