Beckett Simonon vs. Thursday Boot Company: Which Boot is Worth It?

[@TaiChiWithRon]

I have a pair of boots from each company and find like you have Beckett Simonon are much more comfortable and really nice build quality. I have always had and still have problems with Thursday’s sizing .

[@tumbleweedconnection7906]

I own 4 pairs of Thursdays. 2 cadets, 1 president and low top sneakers and have had zero issues with sizing. And they all look and feel great!

[@SrtZipTop]

True to size? Or did you order down?

[@GuiltyNoticer]

half size down is perfect.

[@thecreamygentleman4277]

Couple of things really rub me the wrong way about this review. Firstly, he refers to the BS boot as feeling sturdier and having better durability, however he is comparing a full-grain leather boot to Thursday's suede boot. A more realistic comparison would be Thursday's President in Black Coffee full-grain leather. Suede is more processed and will obviously look and feel different. He says he owns multiple pairs of Thursdays, but doesn't specify which. Why own multiple boots of a brand you don't prefer? Probably because, secondly, he encourages you to use his affiliate link for purchasing BS boots. In my opinion, this discredits any of his opinions regarding their competitor. Not saying BS doesn't make a fantastic or even better boot. I don't know because I don't own a pair. Just annoyed that this is not respectful of viewers’ time and is clearly one-sided. I've had two pairs of Thursdays for 7 years now and they are fantastic and timeless footwear. They're comfortable and incredibly well constructed, and $60 cheaper than the BS. I wear them almost every day and haven't had to resole them just yet. I haven't had sizing issues. If one size is too small but the next size up is too big, you probably need a wide version. Contact customer support and I'm sure they'd easily exchange them for you.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Then don’t watch it…. You can, just as easily as anyone else, read the comments on this video and see how many people have issues with sizing. As for disliking my video…. You do realize that by commenting you’re only giving me more engagement which results in more reach.

[@mgray3130]

I got the same with my Thursdays. They are just too small, but I kept them and love the way it looks but pain over 8 hours, style over fit!

[@kenwilliams2219]

I went through the same issues on sizing with Thursday Boots. Had 2 pair and gave them away. I now have 2 pairs of Beckett Simonon, they fit perfectly and are so much more comfortable. A bit of a wait for BS but so worth the wait. Thanks for your honest review.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Thanks for sharing!

[@highdesertforester]

I have two pairs of Thursdays, the Vanguards (made in USA of Horoween Chrome Excel) and Scouts (made in Mexico in suede) My Brannock size is 10D and my Nike's are that size. I went with 9.5D in the Thursdays and they fit well, the Vanguards perhaps a little snug in width but still very comfortable. I also own 3 pairs of BS's: the Ellis Chukka's, Cohen loafers and Anders Derbie's. The first two taper sharply to the toe and I went up a half size to 10.5D. That worked out well. The Derbies have a wider toebox and I went with a 10D. That also worked well. The BS's are definitely higher in quality than the Thursdays although I like the Horoween leather on the Vanguards. I just wish BS offered choices in the soles. I like the Danite soles rather than the leather.

[@TouhouNazrin]

This whole video is just an advertisement. I wouldn't trust it as a valid opinion video.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Then don’t

[@christopherpipitone9940]

@@ModestlyMinimalhe didn’t and gave his opinion…

[@ModestlyMinimal]

@@christopherpipitone9940 opinions mean nothing when they’re wrong. Read through the comments on, not only my video, but the whole of Thursday Boot content and you will see the amount of complaints is quite substantial. I had an affiliate link for BS boots, yes. But, they didn’t pay me out for a ton of sales I made, I no longer work with them, and I would still recommend them over TBC any day of the week. If this was an ad, I would have said so. I have nothing to hide and I don’t care about future business enough to stop stupid opinions where they start.

[@johntniman]

I've been fortunate to have pretty good luck with both companies. I have a pair of black Thursday Captains, a pair of suede Thursday chelseas, and a pair of brown Beckett Simonon jodhpur boots. I agree that the BS boots are a bit better constructed and have somewhat better leather, but for what they are I'm happy with all three pairs. One thing I think you missed is BS's .. unique ... ordering process. Thursday is a traditional e-tailer. Beckett Simenon, you'll be waiting six or eight weeks to get your boots because they make and ship them in batches. You're not going to get a pair of BS boots quickly, but they do communicate well through the process. My understanding is they make slightly more boots than are ordered at a time to handle returns and exchanges, but I've never gone through that process. I like other boots companies better than these two for some things, but these are nice for inexpensive boots that will last quite a while if you don't abuse them.

[@lgroves336]

Update: Thursday has changed the last in the last couple of months. Sooooo sizing is invalid since he has had this boot for sometime.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

I think all of the comments and messages I’m receiving about sizing issues says otherwise.

[@M1_u]

If you're referring to the king maker last, that's only for the resilient line. Thursday's sizing is still annoying.

[@suqies]

do you have any info about the ellis, lopez/williamson boots? looking to get them but nothing online!

[@anthonygordon1131]

I have 5 pairs of Thursday Boots and I took their recommendation a half size smaller than your sneaker size and all the boots I purchased from them fits perfectly and I wear a 8 and a half in sneakers so my boots are size 8 men love Thursday’s .

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Glad it worked out for you!

[@edgardo1166]

I'm planning to get Becket Simonon Dowler's. I wear 8.5 us nike. I plan to wear the boots with thick socks. Should I just get 8.5us? Thank you in advance.

[@richardsullivan8645]

I just recently ordered and received my first pair of boots from Beckett Simonon and their boots are by far the superior boot. I still like my Thursday boots as well but I was blown away by the quality of Beckett Simonon. The quality was on par with my Allen Edmonds boots.

[@ivenhoho]

I own the B-S Silva Chelsea boot. They're made with robust pull-up leather and are stylish, lightweight, comfortable, and waterproof. I love 'em. I also own many of their shoes and leather sneakers. I regard Thursday Boot Co. very highly, but I had a similar problem with fit and ended up selling my new Vanguard boots at a loss, creating a negative "lasting" impression. One of Thursday's advantages over B-S is lead time. Thursdays will be on your doorstep within a few days of the order, whereas B-S makes you wait a couple of months as their boots/shoes are MTO. B-S and Thursday both have exceptionally good customer relations. I'm curious how your new Dowlers will look after two years of use. Comparing them directly against the older Thursdays could be regarded by some as unfair.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

I do have to agree with what you’ve said and I greatly appreciate your comment! I’ve read a few other comments of people who have waited for long periods of time to get their BS boots. Fortunately, that hasn’t been the case for me or some others I know personally. I assume it was due to where we were living at the time (or they needed to get them out quickly for a review). But, something worth having is always worth waiting for… or so I’m told. I didn’t mention this in the video but I have not had good customer service with TBC. I always stage a few random inquiries to brands that I want to work with or wants to work with me to see how they handle them. It wasn’t the best… but not worth mentioning in the video. As far as fairness goes… I can’t expect everyone to agree with my opinion or my choices. I have several notes from the first month, two months, and three months on both TBC purchases and compared a lot of the quality based issues on that. I am very curious though how the BS boots will look after two years and I definitely plan to make an updated review. I guess I can only hope that whether the review is fair or not it helps someone to not feel as if they have wasted their money. Again, I really do appreciate your comment and hope to see more on future videos!

[@walllee6470]

This is the first entirely positive review I have seen of Beckett Simonon. It's kind of strange, though, as the Beckett is more of a dress boot, and Thursday seems more everyday-ish for this comparison. I own both, and they serve different purposes.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

I like what I like, what can I say. They are two different boots with two different purposes, sure. But the review focuses on things that should be consistent across each model. I do like my Thursday President boots… I just don’t think they’re worth $200 and I don’t think they’re as versatile as BS for a minimalist closet.

[@AbrahamsYTC]

That’s what I feel. I have about 3-4 pairs of each but I usually go for Thursday 9 out of 10 times. Even though I like Becketts quality and workmanship better overall, they just seem a bit too dressy/shiny for casual use.

[@anthonywkeyes]

what is the color of that Beckett Simonon dowler boot in your video?

[@ModestlyMinimal]

This is the brown color!

[@Tiger24kicks]

I purchased a size 8 and i wear a size 8 and its super big i sized to a 7.5 and its super tight. Thursday boot sizing is all messed up im giving my boots away. Im sticking to beckett simonon

[@Probably.boredinPDX]

I have the Beckett Simonon Dowler boots in pullup leather (along with several other assorted Becket Simonon shoes) and I love them. Comfortable, even if a little stiff on the first couple wears, stylish with a classic profile that isn't trying to be too chunky or too dressy, and the leather looks and feels amazing. The only issue I have are the laces - a little too thin for my taste and REALLY slippery when tying, but this is an easy fix. I do wish they'd ship a pair of thicker, more casual laces instead of just a second backup pair.

[@PrevailPal]

Thank you for sharing, very informative 👍

[@asdfjklol]

Sadly Beckett Simonon doesn't make wide sizes, so I'm hesitant to try them.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Yea, I would probably stay away then. No need to waste money if they don’t make what fits you!

[@JonathanGrandt]

I wear 12.5 to 13 in sneakers. I originally ordered a size 12 captains. They were way too long and a sloppy fit. So I went with 11.5 and it was too narrow. I tried 11.5 wide and they were a little better but too wide. I tried 11w and they were … hmm ok… albeit a bit short. Becket Simonon. Their size tool said 12. I ordered 12 and it was a wicked perfect fit. I will say that BS run slightly wider than most fashion boots in the toe while the heel is still nice and snug. It’s not a perfect boot but dang comfy.

[@ryandegannes10]

Haha that sizing dilemma with Thursday happened to me as well. I have 2 boots now, one too big and the other 2 small, but love them nonetheless...just have to choose my socks carefully lol.

[@JesusMorales-jw5ri]

I chose the Dowler boots over the Captains because I think they just have a nicer profile and picking a size was straight forward. I do wish they had a leather option similar to rugged and resilient, but maybe they will in the future. Sizing with all of BS boots and shoes I’ve purchased has been consistently true to Brannock size for me; however, the sneakers seem to run at least half size large in my opinion. Have you tried the sneakers? If so, what’s your experience been like with them?

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Hey there, thanks for your comment! I haven’t had a chance to try their sneakers yet!

[@xlrationmarine]

Buy your size. Ask them about the last. They told me the boots and sneakers are built on the same last.

[@MichaelHattem]

The main style difference to me seems that Thursdays are traditional American work boots while the BS are slightly more European and dressy.

[@Angel-AbC9]

You have a brand new boot that have not been worn for some months to see how it really feels and going against a boot that has been broken in , hmmm something is wrong with this comparison. If course bs is much better than thursdays.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

I take a lot of notes when I get products in. So, just like this I can know exactly what I was thinking from delivery day up until 6 months of wear. Also, the main categories in this video have nothing to do with comfort. Quality, Sizing, Style/Versatility, and Price.

[@dm9078]

The boot that cost $60 more and takes 3 months to arrive is better quality. Interesting

[@ramonovazquez4351]

I had the same problem with Thursday's boot, I wear 11 in sneakers and ordered 10.5 in the Captain but still a bit big so I wear thick socks. I do enjoy wearing them and like their quality. I ordered a pair of shoes from Beckett Simonon that I should receive this week after waiting for two months. And although I like Thursday and own a couple of shoes, sneakers and the boots, I have my eyes on the same boots that Beckett S. sent you. Depending on the quality of the shoes and fit, I will consider purchasing the boots. But it may be for next year, as I have already spent quite a bit this year on footwear. Thanks for the video.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Thanks for your comment! I have to agree… I do enjoy wearing the TBC boots and I think that they have a fantastic look. However, I still prefer the BS boots. I haven’t tried their shoes yet… which ones do you have?

[@anonsurf6640]

From your video, the BS one pairs better with your outfit and seems more versatile. I would have never picked them over Thursdays because I tend to shun dressier shoes. But maybe I'll give their boots a try. I do have a pair of sneakers from them which are great.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

I find them far more comfortable.

[@andreleverettejr3747]

I have multiple pairs of both, i recommend both.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

I agree. I just think one is worth purchasing over the other.

[@Highland_Paddy]

Which is more worth it? I don't know. Probably neither? Ha ha. I'm still working through my Thurs collection slowly enough to see how it goes.

[@Highland_Paddy]

OK, but how much more the Beck S cost? And can I use for hiking much like the Captains?

[@Highland_Paddy]

They look a little nicer than the Oliver Cabell, but I still only wore those for about a month now, too.

[@Highland_Paddy]

No, it's just regular roulette where you might lose. You probably won't die if you get the wrong size of boot and have to exchange them. I got stuck with one extra pair, but still alive though.

[@Highland_Paddy]

Yes, I had the same sizing problems with Thursday, but the O Cabell and Caswell were even thick sock needed bigger than the President. And the Captain I DID have to go the size down but not the others. go figure

[@Highland_Paddy]

the becks are $260. shoulda just said that first.

[@M1_u]

Every Thursday boot ive purchased I had to return Not the best QC. However, returns were easy and not a problem.

[@bassheadlife492]

You might have just gotten unlucky with the sizing, should've gave the Chelsea's a chance

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Had them too. It seems to be a pretty common issue though.

[@bassheadlife492]

@ModestlyMinimal I have 5 different pairs and the sizing is relatively consistent on all of them

[@JonathanGrandt]

I would like to see some more rugged looking boots by BS

[@kit2770]

So, the takeaway is that maybe Thursday should charge more? Dude, what are you smoking?

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Raise the price, lower production rates, and produce more a more accurate shoe. My channel is not for everyone. I’m not here to be budget friendly or tell people to buy a bunch of things. That can be found elsewhere. I would rather spend a little be more on a purchase and have a better quality product that lasts longer, is more versatile, and brings me more joy. Just a difference in opinion.

[@kit2770]

@ModestlyMinimal Fair enough. Although pricier and more high-quality boots already exist in other brands. It doesn't have to be Thursday. Plus, if Thursday became more exclusive, then they wouldn't be so "modestly minimal."

[@ModestlyMinimal]

@kit2770 They do already exist, yes. And are more expensive for a good reason. I think more so in my statement in the video the point I was trying to get across, which I may have done poorly, is that Thursday needs to change something. Like most brands that appear like they have and gain a huge following there always seems to be a short lifespan with a huge financial downfall or, and not very often, they succeed and move into a more exclusive space. I think both boot brands are pretty fairly priced (however the BS boots are better quality for the price). I’d just like to see Thursday go in a direction that reduces the amount of displeased individuals in their comment sections. As for something exclusive not being modestly minimal… I own plenty of exclusive items. I think, in what I do, that can only make a piece more meaningful and I will be more willing to keep that piece as a legacy item. Do I think that everyone should live this way? Nope, it’s definitely not for everyone. But I do hope that my content helps someone make a choice between two items and they end up happy with their purchase. In complete transparency the only reason I made this video is because I’ve not been happy with any purchase from TBC and I know a lot of people who feel the same. I just wanted to offer an alternative at a similar price point.

[@kit2770]

I actually agree with you about buying better and thus buying less often, which is why I'm in the process of ordering a pair of White's. However, that doesn't mean I'm going to start suggesting that inexpensive brands transform themselves into something more expensive. I own a pair of Captains. Like you with your pair, I think they're a good value, and I like them (my sizing experience seems to have gone better than yours, but maybe I just got lucky). Granted, they're not going to be a "legacy item," but I like that Thursday is an option in the market--a decent yet inexpensive boot, one where I don't need to sweat every nick or scratch like I might with a more expensive pair. Anyways, take care. Have a good one. ✌️

[@ModestlyMinimal]

@@kit2770 You will have to let me know what you think of your whites. I definitely agree that it’s nice to have options and I do often find myself being a little too cautious with some of my more expensive boots. Also, to answer your initial question…. I’m currently working on a great indica hybrid blend from a grower named Culta. Lol

[@11outkast11]

I just bought my third pair of Thursday. I had the same issues with sizing and their customer service was horrible. It took over 15 days of going back and forward and at the me end nothing. I never spoke with a life person. Will not buy another Thursday.

[@dany1024]

For a little more money, Meermin is a better option than these two.

[@xfghsthsh]

Meermin is far better built and material.

[@dany1024]

@@xfghsthsh I agree also the tannerys are well known

[@ModestlyMinimal]

@dany1024 I’ve never heard of them until reading your comment. They’re super nice looking. I’m going to have to check them out! Thanks!

[@xfghsthsh]

@@ModestlyMinimal Their shell cordovan boots are cheapest (not quality wise) you can get of ALL the other competing manufacturers on the board.

[@dany1024]

@@ModestlyMinimal I will patiently wait for your video 😁

[@josephteifer9714]

I own both brands, five Beckett Simonon and three Thursday Boots. You are on the mark with sizing. I’ve had many more compliments on the Beckett Simonon boots. They are more flexible in that they can be worn both for business casual and casual situations. There is a difference in that one is Blake Stitched and the other is Goodyear welted. I also own a lot of pairs of Allen Edmonds boots, however, I only buy boots from their Factory Seconds Store. These are also well made and probably have better quality leather. I’m a new subscriber and enjoyed your video.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Thanks for your comment! I have to admit that I do enjoy the products Allen Edmonds produces.

[@peterhess2610]

There is no comparison between the two. B&S is so far superior to Thursdays. I have both. The Thursdays have been relegated to nasty weather wear.

[@Escobarguzman7000]

You would think an american boot company would spend time studying their average customer's feet and develop a last that would fit most people, but no....

[@philschiavone101]

I wear a 9.5C. So cheaper boots never work.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

I feel like I wear a pretty normal size but it always seems if I think I’m getting a deal something is bound to not work out, lol

[@jaynern]

Am agree with you about the sizing of Thursday boot. Me myself i have 3 size of diplomat in US7 US7.5 and US8. Am at war with the first 2 and make peace with the last one in size US8. This 3 pair I bought in a space of 2 years.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Isn’t it wild how they can vary that much! Lol

[@Chilewil44]

This would be a good video if you were comparing like boots…..!!!!!

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Then find one that does lol

[@Sub-Machinist]

I think if someone is in the market for quality entry-level boots, they would be looking at both of these. They're both each brand's version of a service boot. BS just looks dressier.

[@xlrationmarine]

I bought Thursday sneakers, in my size and WAY to narrow. Never bought from the again. I ordered some Beckett boots in my size, fit was perfect with dress socks. Before the boots showed up I bought their sneakers and they showed up first, perfect fit and they are built on the same last. Two more pairs of Chukkas showed up this spring. I ware a 10EEE in an AE, on the 56 last.

[@ModestlyMinimal]

Nice! They’re such amazing pieces!