Becoming an Indian Atheist, criticising religion & more! | Full Interview with

[@muveemanone2067]

A friend of vimoh is a friend of mine. Nice to meet you Rational, you just earned yourself a sub! 😁✌🏼

[@rationable]

Hey hey welcome aboard! Good to have you hear.

[@boring.101]

43:30 i always admire atheists from places like Pakistan and Iran. The courage they have is just ❤

[@rationable]

Seriously. Their courage is truly inspiring.

[@cauliflowerhead2735]

I love how Vimoh expresses his POV so clearly and Rationable asked just the right questions with no BS.

[@rationable]

I really appreciate that. Thank you 😁

[@Dr.PrettyPsychiatrist]

Vimoh has helped me grow as a human. ♥️♥️

[@Zia_Ali.]

Thanks a lot for uploading the entire interview!! Loved the discussion between you two Got introduced to your channel by Vimoh's recent community post and will definitely be looking out for more of your content in the future! Will also be going through the videos that are already there on your channel! Love and well wishes from a fellow atheist in Pakistan!! ❤😊

[@rationable]

Thank you so much! and best wishes back to you. And please let me know if you have any feedback. My website and contact details are in the description.

[@tariqelhaad]

Loved this discussion! Subscribed.

[@thestriker269]

More power to you guys.a new ascension into reason and rationality ❤

[@rationable]

Thank you so much!

[@Sanmoh_yt]

I am glad that what Vimoh got at last, the books by Yuval Noah Harari, especially Sapiens, that was the very first book that I read at the beginning of my journey (thanks to a random Instagram comment of a random Instagram reel) So I think I am alot luckier than Vimoh in this regard, I had a clear vision from the beginning phase of my journey (I have yet to read books like The God delusion, Atheist Manifesto etc so I still have a long way to cover)

[@noelrodrigues8179]

When I spoke about caste , one dude said it is corrupted by the invaders. Ancient India has Varna system,even though I told him Varna and caste are same he disagrees and says Varna is putting the right person in the right place.

[@rationable]

There are always so many strange interpretations of scripture and beliefs. That’s why Hinduism is so slippery.

[@walmartraiden5401]

Varna and caste are basically the same thing except during ancient times they weren't based on an Orthodox strict hierarchy(as per scriptic evidence)now I'm hindu but genuinely there's 0 defense for the caste oppression that was manifested one day that I can give

[@sureshnaidu201]

Ah, new diacovery for me. Love this

[@rationable]

Welcome to the channel! I’m so glad you enjoyed it!

[@manavkhatarkar9983]

29:05 😂 the best part

[@aditya.sood077]

I was just having a discussion about karma with a colleague the other day. Expanding on your argument of poor people being judged, most of these people remain poor their whole lives and never have any chances to "gather" good karma because their time and resources are spent on survival. So, they're stuck in an infinite loop of being born in poor conditions, if karma is to be believed and the "almighty" doesn't do anything here. Is their eternal suffering justified? None of my colleagues could answer.

[@rationable]

That's a very good point indeed. Karma is a deeply flawed idea.

[@ex.hindu.now.atheist]

@Aditya Sood "I was just having a discussion [...] None of my colleagues could answer." ============================================== I am (pleasantly) surprised that none of those colleagues resorted to any mental gymnastics in order to justify karma. When I had a very similar discussion, one of my friends claimed that in the case of such persons, the "standards" for what deeds constitute good karma would be lowered in order to enable those persons to start accumulating good karma. I asked her whether there is any "scripture" in Hinduism (i.e. in so-called Sanatana Dharma) regarding this. She said that she would get back to me about it. Since then I have reminded her 4 or 5 times in the last 2 years... and she is still "getting back to me about it".

[@aditya.sood077]

@@ex.hindu.now.atheist They didn't resort to mental gymnastics because majority believers haven't even read their own scripture. They are just propagating the faith system based on verbal transmission of the "important bits" from their elders. If you show them the text references, then they will start with the mental gymnastics. LOL

[@ex.hindu.now.atheist]

​@@aditya.sood077 "They didn't resort to [...] with the mental gymnastics. LOL" =============================== Perhaps you are correct. However, I think that they would do mental gymnastics if they "feel" attached to their religious (i.e. so-called dharmic) beliefs EVEN if they have NOT read (at least a few of) the 'scriptures'-i.e., emotional attachment to their religion would lead to mental gymnastics regardless of whether they have read the scriptures or not. I think that a *KEY POINT* is that we can very safely presume that the VAST MAJORITY of Hindus (i.e. so-called Tan-Tanaatana Dharmists) have *not read* any of the "scriptures" of the religion, dharma, etc. etc. by which they swear-and *neither have most of the elders from whom they have heard these stories...* and *nor have the elders from whom those elders have heard these stories...* *and so on and on.* 😂

[@rationable]

@ex Hindu I have been wondering about exactly this for a while now.

[@DeeBoudreau]

I've read some stuff from a lot of religions. The Laws of Manu is not too long. I was shocked by the misogyny; it's way worse than in the Bible or Quran.

[@rationable]

Whoa! What religion is this from?

[@booksanimeenthusiast3802]

@@rationable I think op is describing Manusmriti

[@rationable]

Ah I see. I’ll have to look this up.

[@ex.hindu.now.atheist]

@@rationable "Ah I see. I'll have to look this up." ===================================== Be aware that now there are Hindu apologists who claim that the Manusmriti is non-canon in Hinduism (i.e. in Tan-Tanaatani dharma).

[@rationable]

@kazuya_xd7694 and by we, who are you referring to?

[@tyrionlannister6847]

Vimoh🔥💪

[@JohnyWalker1234]

I have an perspective on why people believe in astrology/numerology/tarot etc from my personal experience - it is not just because everyone believes in it so I also do, it has to do with something deeper - loss of control and fear of future. We are all anxious and scared of our unknown future so your astrology and zodiac try to give some sort of answer to that anxiety. You know in the back of your mind the predictions are just too vague and make no sense but you find solace or hope in the answer. I speak from personal experience because I find myself reading zodiac predictions on newspaper and internet, trying to predict my future etc. and so far it has been a waste of time.

[@rationable]

I totally agree with you. I too feel it’s a longing to be able to see into the unknown or control the chaos that is life. I feel it’s the same reason why people’s belief in the supernatural or religions is reinforced.

[@muveemanone2067]

Now only if Matt had the same patience as vimoh...lol

[@rationable]

I totally agree with you. Totally respect Vimoh for his patience and kindness with all his callers.

[@samuelthamburaj]

All the best, future Matt Dillahunty... 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@rationable]

Ohhhh hahaha I’m nowhere close to that man and I think I’m on a very different trajectory but thank you. You’ve made my day.

[@ex.hindu.now.atheist]

@@rationable "Ohhhh hahaha I'm nowhere [...] made my day." ============================================== I am sorry to be a party pooper, but I think 'Samuel Thamburaj' is referring to Vimoh. 😜😜

[@rationable]

Phew! You’re right about that. I must have been reading this before I had my morning coffee.

[@samuelthamburaj]

@@ex.hindu.now.atheist It's been a month, so i don't remember. But I'd be glad if we get two of him. @Rationable, all the best buddy

[@samuelthamburaj]

@@ex.hindu.now.atheist I love your name buddy... I'm also in the same boat

[@muveemanone2067]

Have any of y'all ever heard of T-Jump? (KZbin atheist personality) highly recommended ✌🏼

[@rationable]

Yeah, I really like his content!

[@muveemanone2067]

Are you in India Rationable?

[@rationable]

Yes I am! You?

[@meghannagvekar60]

18:55 good point atheist should not call religious stupid and same vice versa. i watch all of your videos but this line state you are good atheist with clear view.😄

[@rationable]

Thank you so much. I’m glad we agree. A superiority complex only closes doors. Humility will open hearts and minds.

[@ex.hindu.now.atheist]

@Meghan Nagvekar "18:55 good point atheist should not [...] with clear view." =========================================================== Not all religious people are completely stupid. The religious persons who are rational in the non-religious aspects of their lives become non-rational with regard to their religious beliefs because their religious beliefs tend to be a deeply ingrained aspect of their beliefs and opinions about their identity. I think that is why they become very emotional (and non-rational) with regard to their religious beliefs.

[@meghannagvekar60]

@@rationable exactly sir

[@meghannagvekar60]

@@ex.hindu.now.atheist yes

[@rationable]

I would argue that no theist is at all stupid. Religious beliefs are primarily a result of childhood indoctrination. Even if a person changes religions, the need for having a god to believe in persists from the same indoctrination. Almost anyone who wasn’t indoctrinated as a child would develop religious beliefs in adulthood. Religious beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with how intelligent a person is.

[@muveemanone2067]

Email address???

[@rationable]

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