Need Of Religion In Today's Time | Javed Akhtar | Makarand Paranjape

Need Of Religion In Today's Time | Javed Akhtar | Makarand Paranjape | Shoma Chaudhury |

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In 21st century, what is the role and need of religion? When two minds as brilliant as Javed Akhtar and Makarand Paranjape sit down to discuss this, it surely becomes one of the most interesting conversations.
Javed & Makrand dive deep into their own thoughts and beliefs of religion and faith. With this, they also dive into the realms of dharma and spirituality. While one is against religion, the other is a staunch believer of it, while one stands by logic and reasoning, the other believes in the existence of dharma and quantum physics. While there are two such different people on the panel, the conversation goes in all the directions it can.
This session was recorded at IFP 12.
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
3:57 - Javed Sahab Is Against Religion
4:43 - What Is Faith?
6:05 - Faith & Stupidity is Same?
6:18 - Problem of Religions
7:05 - What is The Distinction Between Dharma & Religion?
8:01 - Religions are Not The Same
10:28 - Complicated Word - Spirituality
10:53 - Is There Any Hierarchy in Religions?
13:00 - India Has Pluralism
14:25 - What Is Dharma?
16:36 - Belief in Religions
17:03 - What is Conscious Mind?
18:11 - What Is Spiritualism?
20:43 - Believing in The Religion & Spiritualism
25:21 - Who needs Religion?
26:42 - Religion & Politics
27:42 - Hindutva And It's Loss
28:55 - Can Religion Be Good & Bad?
30:38 - Against Purdah, Hijaab, & Triple Talaq
31:37 - Meaning of The Word 'Religion'
33:00 - Sholay & Religion
33:55 - What is The Strength Of Our Country?
35:10 - God is Santa For Adults
36:03 - Sanatani Accords
38:39 - Role of Religion
41:13 - Debate Over Manusmriti, & Mughals
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@neetakarnik331 3 ай бұрын

Javed Akhtar rocks. All fluffy, all big words cannot hide the truth and reality of adharma.

@ayushisharma162 2 ай бұрын

Ja na bhai

@xadrez1348 Ай бұрын

Twko bhi samaza nahi hoga sach batao 😂@@ayushisharma162

@horizonrainbow6899 Ай бұрын

All are religions and all are same then he cleverly flips and wants Hindus not to be like semantics😂 what a rationality

@bharatveermahan7931 Ай бұрын

You don’t have the ability to comprehend what MP has said.

@bharatveermahan7931 Ай бұрын

It is not your fault though. I this age where superficiality is at its peak, people take things at face value without trying to get deeper into the matter. If God exists, it’s sensible to accept that to u der stand HIM you will need to make an effort

@razhusain2298 4 ай бұрын

I feel a lot of people who are making negative comments are afflicted with some kind of religion.

@PramodKumar-gy8lb 4 ай бұрын

Atheism is a very honest position. Faith is bs.

@jostnamane3951 3 ай бұрын

You included. Secular materialism is a fringe religious movement that is supposed to be an alternative to traditional religion but fails to answer a simple yet self-destructive moral dilemma, the 'IS-OUGHT' problem.

@ankitBhartiya2 2 ай бұрын

Victim Card Everywhere. 😅

@richcohen5936 2 ай бұрын

@@ankitBhartiya2 Lol when that guy was whining about getting screwed by Akbar, that's not victim card?? If beta males were not able to protect, they should just accept then they were weak then by your argument. You want to have the cake and eat it too...How RIDICULOUS!!!

@swapnilshivhare31 Ай бұрын

Well, I am an atheist, and i believe that we don't need to have debates around faith. Forget religion its a Western concept. Reason being people have full right to pursue and believe whatever faith they want, there isno point in demeaning some ideas because they do not match yours. This is called antitheism not atheism. It's like those orthodox preachers who flock the roads saying that join my religion. A lil more extremism and you become communist. In fact, if we further take it to extreme level, there could be antitheist terrorists.

@HomeWarrior69 Ай бұрын

Man Javed Akhtar is a rare gem in Indian history, no one has stood on Atheist side as he had.

@ankitBhartiya2 28 күн бұрын

He was praising khiljee 😝. Normalizing an invader, Before claiming atheist credentials first he should behave as proper human being.

@singhsaab33321 27 күн бұрын

His atheistic moral doesn't quotes hadiths and quranic ayats on kafirs 😂😂😂 hypocrite

@anarchistarjun1235 20 күн бұрын

No he is an hypocrite ass hole.

@QuirkieCattie 20 күн бұрын

@@ankitBhartiya2 Kiddo go get lettered. google the difference between Quoting someone and praising. He's Normalizing an invader? Ancient hindus are the one who accepted invasion of Mughals . Did not able to fight with them because you guys only know ho how to torture, bully and kill a weak, poor like dalits. You don't have the guts to accept the wrong that has been done by you don't give us moral lessons.

@humanworld7774 17 күн бұрын

What is the definition of invador bcz he was muslim ruler invador was British who sucked you and country alauddin saved u from mongol@@ankitBhartiya2

@Thinkwithme-mt8lu 2 ай бұрын

India needs people like Javed Akhtar,he is the true unbiased atheist i have ever seen.

@abdulabdul9880 Ай бұрын

Joseph Stalin [ who killed more than 40 million in Russia] was also leftist atheist...don't bring atheist morality and humanity here?

@farazahmad7229 29 күн бұрын

Javed used the word philosophy several times but it seems that he doesn't have any idea about philosophy. Even hardcore atheist philosophers would spit on his face for every single word that he uttered.

@drmajidkhanpharmacy3683 20 күн бұрын

Isko bol mufti Yasir se baat kre agar dum hai to. Unhone isko chalenge Kiya tha

@AfzolurRahman 4 күн бұрын

@@drmajidkhanpharmacy3683bhaijan open your eyes push your boundaries and listen to him first. Being a Muslim am saying this

@AfzolurRahman 4 күн бұрын

@@farazahmad7229he had read more than 1000s of books on philosophies 😂😂 you dont have the guts to listen to listen to the truth. Accept it

@shubhamombale 4 ай бұрын

Prof. Marakand is missing the theme of the debate here and is giving it a Hindu vs Muslim angle stating Hinduism is better while Javed Akhtar is condemning both the religions.

@curious_one1156 4 ай бұрын

That was his entire agenda. He is a snake.

@razhusain2298 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely correct.

@user-bx3sx9gt8b 4 ай бұрын

Am Hindu agnostic and your right ,

@zirmilekunal8120 3 ай бұрын

This type of prof. having brain in tha ass

@rj23lolwa 3 ай бұрын

theres nothing called hinduism, hes just trying to say indian traditions are different from what religion is.

@soiwas 4 ай бұрын

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CUTS IN THIS ????? WE WANT AN UNCUT VERSION OF THIS PLEASE !

@Narendersingh-id5ng 4 ай бұрын

Markand ka gala katwana hai kya bhai

@hgangwar41 4 ай бұрын

Thanks. I was about to watch it. But due to the CUT thing I'm gonna leave this without watching and disliking as well.

@RT-oz3lg 4 ай бұрын

@@Narendersingh-id5ng 😂

@nyayendar 4 ай бұрын

Because RSS and DHONG r synonyms

@Human-xz2gr 4 ай бұрын

Javed Akhtar has very shallow knowledge and he talks nonsence. India was already rich before the Islamic invaders came. In fact only because of its wealth the invaders wanted to be here and plunder it.

@indrajitpant276 20 күн бұрын

Shoma Chaudhary moderated the talk brilliantly, one of the rare occasions where the moderator knows the job and without taking sides seamlessly finishes such a controversial but important conversation between two intelligent people. It is very easy to agree with Javed Akhtar, i share most of it myself what he points out. He makes you understand why religion should not be followed blindly and the inherent problems of being religious. However, i can not dismiss most of the things Prof Markrand mentions. The position he takes in this discussion is the controversial one and he does it brilliantly with immense poise and without raising his voice even once. commendable to say the least and even at places where Javed Akhtar almost 'seduces' him to loose his demeanour, he resists in a very dignified manner, mostly with a smile and without interrupting the flow of conversation. A rare example of conversation between two different opinions without any chaos and adding to the content. a very good interaction and to my mind with no losers on either sides.

@chamansingh3657 3 ай бұрын

He has not replied about dalit issues.

@existentialbaby 9 күн бұрын

avg proud hindu, I'm non dalit but what's hippocrisy is hippocrisy

@Death__0 2 күн бұрын

@@existentialbabyI am ST, I am also Proud Hindu. Most of the people talking about Dalit issue doesn't do so with the intention of solving the problem but they want to use it push their own propaganda. Dharm has never ever propagated discrimination, Varn was based on Karm. It is mentioned in Manusmriti & also in Rig veda. One of the hymns of Rig veda says "I am singer, my father is physician, my mother is grinder of corn(chakki wala kaam)" Member of same family can belongs to different varn. Yes, overtime everything corrupts even Democracy whom we are so proud of is showing the sign of Rotting, it will become more apparent in next 30-40 years.

@anujsingh4771 4 ай бұрын

JAVED AKHTAR is a real Liberal and secular Man.

@Astrophile2345 2 ай бұрын

I think he is in the middle ground between liberal and conservative ideologies , atleast better than being at the extremes of both sides.

@shiva4ever 2 ай бұрын

No he isn't....he is merely promoting his own credentials egotistically.....there is so much he hides....he talks of the impermissibility of Sholay today and cleverly shoves films like PK under the carpet.....totally agenda driven

@minhazali4090 2 ай бұрын

@shiva4ever Only after PK , he realised the Sholay scene could not be done today .

@sourav232 2 ай бұрын

he is a katmulla... what he is doing is known as Al-taqqaiyya

@RLP90Gdpy-qv8jt 2 ай бұрын

and you 😂😂😂

@parshusaki1763 4 ай бұрын

Javed has made an accurate point in saying that we can't be selective. Rightly so!

@MrVish6666 4 ай бұрын

javed is an old bozo

@neverEndingvoid525 3 ай бұрын

@@MrVish6666and so is your mother and father ? But you don't see us complaining about it 🤷🏻‍♂️

@JASIRORBOY 2 ай бұрын

@@neverEndingvoid525 you can't complain about his parents because they are not setting narrative in public meetings like javed. At least think before writing this kind of statement 🤦

@doncharted 2 ай бұрын

@JASIRORBOY who set the vague precedent that someone having or not having a platform decides whether or not it's okay to call someone "an old bozo"

@doncharted 2 ай бұрын

@@MrVish6666yet his brain is younger and more dynamic than yours

@senakadezoysa3759 8 күн бұрын

I always enjoy the talking skills of Mr Jawed Akthar. So practical, and enjoyable plus logical. May he live longer in good health for more entertainment for people.

@zenturtle_1 3 ай бұрын

No religion, only humanism ❤

@jostnamane3951 3 ай бұрын

Define "humanism" and "religion" on your worldview

@mayankindian3750 3 ай бұрын

Humanism ko bhi define Kar de bhai

@dhrbolai 3 ай бұрын

No isms

@user-fm7ok7pn6y 3 ай бұрын

You are mad

@jostnamane3951 3 ай бұрын

@@dhrbolai any worldview with its presuppositions is an "ism"

@rizwankhan-pz8eb 4 ай бұрын

Beliefs and faith By questioning.. Caves and trees.... Javed sahab in opening statement itself heavier than professor sahab whole statements

@civilwala02 Ай бұрын

😂😂😂 The whole life of Javed lives like atheists, and punishment of atheism is death in islam. Read your Quoran. Wine drinkers Javed

@singhsaab33321 27 күн бұрын

Oh really are you supporting javed just because he quoted Hindu texrs or do you agree that javed being murtad should be punished accordingly as islam says 😊

@liamjabriel0807 25 күн бұрын

Why you calling him sahib he is not sahib

@biobharat 21 күн бұрын

You want to do something about that?@@liamjabriel0807

@kalimullah1313 9 күн бұрын

Hindutwa means to be a hindhu and then live in India but jawed akhtar live there in India as a athiest it means that hindutwa is based on hypocracy and false thinking. Okay

@edaljhaveri2414 4 ай бұрын

Wow, I feel Javedji is just superb, when makarandji was speaking, I was having the same impression that this man is somehow trying in vain to cover up and then when Javedji comes, he is so bang on and accurate. Just loved it 👍

@Azazel-zo1gx 4 ай бұрын

Javed does gave cognitive inconsistencies and manipulatuing facts which makrand doesn't

@muskanustad3834 Ай бұрын

@@Azazel-zo1gx or markand don't have any facts to speak out?

@bharatveermahan7931 Ай бұрын

Ignorance is bliss

@Azazel-zo1gx Ай бұрын

@muskanustad3834 yeah if you are deaf and dumb

@singhsaab33321 27 күн бұрын

@@muskanustad3834so you think javed your beloved Murtad should not be delt the way Allah says in quran 😊

@positivelife7633 3 ай бұрын

Makrand is talking realistically, he doesn't answer questions straight away, while he certainly can

@user-qr6xg1tl7i 3 ай бұрын

Mr Javed Akhtar is not only a great poet but a great scholar too.His views are subtle and as authentic he is loved for his liberal views all over the world. Salute to u jenab Javed Bhai u r an integrated personality we all respect n love u.Mr Javid bai makrand is shifting from one point to another and is not certain & clear what he says.

@Marsalllll 3 ай бұрын

India’s gdp may have been high at the time but the per capita income was the poorest most of the money was sent to ottomans, Mecca and the like Aurangzeb destroyed entire agricultural regions by stampede with horses resulting in millions of death due to famine

@dr.ishratullahkhan158 2 ай бұрын

Makrand's toung runs into wheels.

@abdulabdul9880 Ай бұрын

Liberalism is total nonsense...now liberals are the main advocates of Gender neutrality....All the evil come from that ideology.

@farazahmad7229 29 күн бұрын

@Theshowstopper2010 4 ай бұрын

Its unfortunate that Makrand was discussing with jawed who was not ready to hear... and it was cut in between...unfortunate

@Human-xz2gr 4 ай бұрын

Makrand is an intellectual and knowledgeable person. Javed is a buffoon he has very shallow knowledge.

@cheltooktribefreethinker1028 4 ай бұрын

i think makrand told to much than javad. Idk how u judges the converstions 😊. Javad sir rocks when it comes to logic and rationality

@Ritesh-rj1sp 4 ай бұрын

Javed is burnt because he can't embarrass Hindus like before He used to embarrass them in sholay And enjoy But he didn't know there was no social media then Now Hindus will expose his cunningness

@cheltooktribefreethinker1028 4 ай бұрын

@@Ritesh-rj1sp javad sir is the voice for voiceless ppl. Rss and isis can't stop him from speaking truth. Ya modi will wil be exposed daily. Be pity sure on it

@arpitagarwal4924 4 ай бұрын

To be real Hindu is to first take a deep dive into yourself and leave behind all the materialistic world, which people have forgotten and have become prey to the filthy politics

@Ram-gy1yv 4 ай бұрын

Is it debate or reel? Why anchor cutting both in every 2minute without clear explanation? No use of such kind of thing if not proper debate

@TedoR2011 4 ай бұрын

U think you're better 😅

@seinundschein 2 ай бұрын

Interestingly Makarand Paranjape didn’t even once mention Ambedkarite Buddhism which truly challenges the theology of Hinduism. In his book “Buddha and his Dhamma” Babasaheb has also challenged the monotheistic religions (christianity, judaism, islam) because man doesn’t need the belief in god to be good to another man. Hinduism cannot claim this social morality (being good to fellow beings) because it fundamentally believes in the inequality of the caste system.

@VOIDEARTH_Official Ай бұрын

Exactly 💯

@Bappichakraborty5705 Ай бұрын

You don't have an iota of knowledge about what is the concept of casteism in Hindus. It's not divisive. It's rather positioning individuals according to their capabilities. Get your facts checked

@seinundschein Ай бұрын

@@Bappichakraborty5705Are you serious? Or am I supposed to hear sarcasm as I read your lines?

@Bappichakraborty5705 Ай бұрын

@@seinundschein You need to read Bhagavad Geeta which itself states that it is one's quality or efficiency which decides his positioning in social ladder not the privileges wrought by birth

@seinundschein Ай бұрын

@@Bappichakraborty5705 I don’t think that’s what the Gita says. It justifies the chaturvarnya system and makes it imperative to conform oneself to the norms of one’s varna. Isn’t it why participating in war becomes the kshatriya’s duty? And the duty of the lower castes to continue cleaning the gutter. By the logic of the gita, is it their innate quality or something to clean? I No wonder, Babasaheb calls the gita a counterrevolutionary text, which justifies the Brahmanical Hindu religion. The reality of the Hindu society around us is a true testimony to the oppressive caste system on the basis of which it operates. The whole point of bringing Ambedkar into the debate is since Prof. Paranjape is claiming some kind of Indian wisdom for his defence of Hinduism. So the man who has given us pur constitution has offered a critique of Hinduism, who is equally “Indian”. One expects this from Prof. Paranjape and not from Javed Akhtar, who doesn’t claim to be learned or scholarly or an authority on “Indian” traditions of thinking.

@ezazahmed8118 Ай бұрын

Javed Saab rocks..🔥 No religion, Only humanity ❤

@param953 4 ай бұрын

Quotes.: I was reminded of a quotation by the famous American physicist, Steven Weinberg, Nobel Prize winning theoretical physicist. Weinberg said "Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. For good people to do bad things it takes religion

@jostnamane3951 3 ай бұрын

Quoting a famous personality doesn't prove anything. What is "good"? and what is "bad"? There's only "what is" on a purely nihilistic worldview because you cannot derive normativity from the fact that the world IS a certain way. Look up David Hume's 'IS-OUGHT' problem

@rabinderkoul1577 3 ай бұрын

@Paran953 Openheimer also quoted from Bhagvad Geeta and Erwin Shrodinger from Upanishads. Openheimer talked referred to Christianity and Judaism as those were the religions he was familiar with. How does that give you the license to quote him when you do not know that in what context he said it. You may want to impress the public by giving his name, but tell me what was his contribution to Physics?

@param953 3 ай бұрын

@@rabinderkoul1577 r there any agencies to give me license what to quote ?

@jostnamane3951 3 ай бұрын

@@param953 what is "good" and what is "bad"?

@N9745H8 3 ай бұрын

@@jostnamane3951 The Noble Quran Surah Al-Baqarah 2:177 It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and each and every act of obedience to Allah, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masakin (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and gives the Zakat, and who fulfill their covenant when they make it, and who are As-Sabirin (the patient ones, etc.) in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of fighting (during the battles). Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqun (pious) This is definition of righteousness by Quran

@jhunuj6243 4 ай бұрын

For Hindus central scriptures are Upanishads and Gita but not Manu Smriti.

@adityanjsg99 4 ай бұрын

Manu means law giver. They change from time to time. Stuti means facts, smriti is all about interpretation

@brahm-ahamasmi 4 ай бұрын

For Hindus, there are no "Central" scriptures. Every Hindu can choose what to believe and there is a huge diversity.

@jhunuj6243 4 ай бұрын

@@brahm-ahamasmi we r people of vedic civilization. Essence of Vedas is captured in Upanishads and encapsulated in Bhagwat Gita. Bharat was a vast country from Afghanistan to Indonesia. Many people have written many things. Only those portions are to be accepted which are in agreement with Upanishads and Gita and rest not to be considered.

@rrao7963 4 ай бұрын

@@jhunuj6243rightly said

@sumitkumawat8996 4 ай бұрын

@@jhunuj6243So basically whatever is written in few books becomes the final word for us ? So we have our final book(s) just like abrahmic religions ? I am not against your point of view and wont say you are wrong , maybe you are right and maybe someone else is, just want to explore what you have written a bit more.

@Death__0 2 күн бұрын

I am ST, I am also Proud Hindu. Most of the people talking about Dalit issue doesn't do so with the intention of solving the problem but they want to use it push their own propaganda. Dharm has never ever propagated discrimination, Varn was based on Karm. It is mentioned in Manusmriti & also in Rig veda. One of the hymns of Rig veda says "I am singer, my father is physician, my mother is grinder of corn(chakki wala kaam)" Member of same family can belongs to different varn. Yes, overtime everything corrupts even Democracy whom we are so proud of is showing the sign of Rotting, it will become more apparent in next 30-40 years.

@meeraraje4953 Күн бұрын

I don't deny my religion , but today's scenario , I can only say that I am proud to say that, I am following humanity,

@oneanuj 4 ай бұрын

At start Jawed Saab said there is no difference in religions, but at around 30 minutes. He says Hindus had elbow space that is being taken away and he tells Hindus to be not like others. This is a point to be delved into.

@dr-sg8xo 4 ай бұрын

Thts because the other guy defended hinduism. He started by saying he denounced islam too. So i think ur biased

@Human-xz2gr 4 ай бұрын

@Nietzsche_K_Gote 4 ай бұрын

@@Human-xz2gr cute IT cell very cute

@Insaniyat980 4 ай бұрын

Javed Akhtar is ashamed of his religion and other abrahmic religions because they are based on dogmas and want their followers to blindly believe in their illogical theories and doctrines. So he calls himself an Atheist. But t at the same time he is egoistic and doesn't want to understand the beauty of Sanatan Dharm which implores a human to be a seeker, and promotes to seek truth with its philosophical logical knowledge. In Sanatan dharm karma is main thing which a human should perform. Javed Akhtar is either foolish not to understand the difference between religion (majhab) and Dharm or he is cunning enough to obfuscate peoples mind by bundling both as same.

@MR.FlyingMonkey 4 ай бұрын

When Lindus can't Defend their Hinduism ! Then divert debate towards abrahamic religions 😂 Oldest Kulture strategy 😂

@rochakkhandelwal7135 4 ай бұрын

Hi. Can you please upload the uncut version?

@Mahendra-my3us 3 ай бұрын

200%agreed with Javed Saheb

@mrbeyonder6081 3 ай бұрын

400% agreed with Markarand

@ashkumar7916 3 ай бұрын

great javed sahib ..i 100% agree .respect and applaud your sincerety , honesty frankness .

@sandeepsingh-fj2ff 4 ай бұрын

Seriously Javed sir nailed it. Other debater's should prepare well. Speaking difficult words does not make any impression. So, Be simple and connect to the audience, do not speak to himself.

@user-cj3oj6xg7w 4 ай бұрын

That's limitation of your mind Mr MAN SINGH

@user-pm4jo5uz4r 4 ай бұрын

is there a faceoff between muslim believer vs javed, and javed is bashing off quran and hadith. First try to Clean your house and community.

@surenderkumarmahto1055 Ай бұрын

अच्छे प्रोफेसर को समझने के लिए दिमाग चाहिए । एक शायर तुमको फिलासफी नही समझा सकता । तुम वही सुनना चाहते हो, जो तुम्हारे दिमाग में फिल्म वालो ने भर दिया है ।

@abhisheksrivastava5633 4 ай бұрын

I've never read Manusmriti but there are certainly objectional quotes in it that have been pointed out by many scholars. But that's the catch. I've never read Manusmriti despite being born in a Hindu family. I've never been asked to, infact nobody from my family has ever read it. Neither do we have Ramayan or Mahabharat at my home and never have I been asked to read them (However I'm interested). But this is not the case with other religions. You have to read the text, you can not condemn those books or the saying of those books. The people following those books believe all verses to be the true word of God and refuse to accept that it could have been polluted over a thousand years.

@N9745H8 4 ай бұрын

But that's not the case with Quran,today most of muslim ummah are following islam the same way as it was 1400 years ago, wordings of adhaan and namaz are same as it was 1400 years ago,Quran is not only the book of prayers,Quran encompass spiritual as well as material level of human life,eg Allah says read salaah and give zakah,means Allah orders us to do namaz and give charity,then Allah forbids interest on debt (ch 2 v 278-279 of Quran)and today we are witnessing the violation of this verse,almost all are under debts,and rich is getting richer and poor is getting poorer

@RohitKumar-vd3wc 3 ай бұрын

Please do some research there are different versions of quran. Though one version is the most popular in the world.

@rabinderkoul1577 3 ай бұрын

(1) If you have not read Manusmriti, how do you know what is in it and what is not in it. (2) Is manusmritti Governing our Laws. But Muslim Personal law (Sharia) is implimented. Basically you admitted that you are ignorant of the Manusmritti but you have heard a about it many times, so it is authentic. Wow you are such a scholar.

@suchitabhat5051 3 ай бұрын

Yes, manusmriti is oppressive. But as is the way with sanatan, every thought, theories, ideologies were permissible. Let people decide what they identify with. For example; Rishi Charvak was a capitalist and Rishi Ashtavakra was an atheist. Yet their scriptures, theories are part of Ved. Sanatan Dharm is very inclusive in nature. 😊

@Muhammadkaif-jl8eb 3 ай бұрын

There is only one version of Qur'an@@RohitKumar-vd3wc

@dcba495 11 күн бұрын

Tomorrow from 10 am to 4 pm in Bankura district of West Bengal, District Atheist Conference will be held, please come. This year the State Atheist Conference was held on 17th March and now district conferences are being held in every district. If you can't come tomorrow, please come to the State Atheist Conference next year.

@DigitalSufiyan 4 күн бұрын

As an ex Muslim atheist ⚛️ , i also get slammed from both sides , javed sir is totally true

@p4umce 4 ай бұрын

Akbar did not translate Ramayana and Mahabharata into European languages, it was Dara Shikho, Shah Jahan's son who was slaughtered by Aurangzeb.

@SWAMISWAMI-ie5gf 4 ай бұрын

Abdul Qadir Badauni translated the Ramayaṇa and the Mahabharata and many Sanskrit tales and the Hindu epics in Persian in accordance with the wishes of Akbar

@omieyadav638 4 ай бұрын

@@SWAMISWAMI-ie5gf true

@Inthemoment3674 4 ай бұрын

Dara shikoh converted bhagwat gita and upnishads in Persian not ramayana

@manavchoton 2 ай бұрын

Oye illiterate.. It was Akbar who commissioned for its translation.. And only after that came with the idea of din e elahi😂😂😂.. Sanghi better get your facts in place

@asadmech12 2 ай бұрын

@@MarsalllllI am a student of history. Can you please provide some scholarly references to your claims?

@srinivasagv6372 4 ай бұрын

Javed should write a scene on his own religion like he did in Sholay

@shrikantdange6927 4 ай бұрын

He will not dare because money matters

@chinfilms2249 4 ай бұрын

You guys missed the whole point. Even after it was so evident.

@soulsangat3350 4 ай бұрын

He told islam is intolerant... Hindus mustn't be like Muslim.

@satejpatil875 4 ай бұрын

You didn't understand. He said it clearly that he doesn't do so cuz he as everybody knows Islam would not accept it and all the while also accepted that Hindus are to be respected in that aspect because they are open to it. Actually even Makarand said it in his own words, if you try to reduce Hinduism to Just another dogmatic religion when it is a loss. And you my brother are trying to do the same.

@nadeemjsr2958 4 ай бұрын

U r suffering from disease called faith and fascism.

@anilshilpley5096 4 күн бұрын

Jawedji is extremely logical and bold. In current times he is the only person in the world who can call a spade a spade. He has guts. While most of the other participants in several such debates come with an agenda

@suvendudas9379 Ай бұрын

Javed sir trying to make the conversation between religion and atheist but makarand trying to pull the conversation into Hindu dharma and trying to make Hindu dharma is different and true

@ShaneCallum 4 ай бұрын

I am a christian but sorry Indic religions and Middle Eastern religions are not the same. Fundamental outlook towards the world is different thereby the outcome. Abrahamic religions at the basic are rule driven, which is why you can quantify the tangibles in these societies. Indic religions on the other hand are fundamentally not rule based. Which is why there are so many sects within Indic religions. So I agree with Makrans for not falling for Javed’s trap

@rabinderkoul1577 4 ай бұрын

India does not even has the concept of religion.

@sivaramanmudaliar9728 4 ай бұрын

Baloney & crap . Shankaracharya, the high priest of Sanatana, said there are shanmatas, ie, 6 religions & called them Soura, Shaktya, Shaiva, Kourmarya,Ganapatya & Vaishnava . Besides , he also wrote in Soundarya Lahari about Dravida. If Dravida was a mere geographical denomination, he , as somebody born in today's Kerala, would have called himself also as a Dravida

@faizan_farooqui 4 ай бұрын

I don't know why Christians pretend as if Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) was not from the middle East?

@muhammadalikhan7605 4 ай бұрын

absolutely right. In Islam rules are defined by God.. We cannot ignore divine rules depending upon the time era

@arnoldschwarzenigga2268 4 ай бұрын

@@muhammadalikhan7605 We don't consider your rules divine, we consider them evil.

@sagarjoshi8444 4 ай бұрын

34:02 When javed saab said "hindus should not behave like muslims" , he himself is saying majahab is different than dharma. So javed saheb doesnt know what he is talking

@sabinmasahary2225 4 ай бұрын

Deep down inside Javed akhtar is a follower of Professor Makarand. The mediator was like what's wrong with him. Instead if contradicting why is he agreeing with the Prof. Let me change the topic to Hindutva and Hinduism.

@whatsgood7840 4 ай бұрын

Hindus historically have been very different from Muslims. But this doesn't mean Hinduism as a religion is any better than Islam as a religion. It is also filled with useless rituals and made up laws and discrimination, just like other religions. But yes, Hindus have historically not acted so dogmatic and violent as Muslims. This doesn't mean their religion makes more sense. The good thing about Hindus is they have allowed people to even disagree with their central scriptures, but even in this they are admitting that their scriptures also have some questionable things.

@cracked8349 4 ай бұрын

@@whatsgood7840as an atheist true can't even argue with muslim folks

@JoJo-hj4tx 4 ай бұрын

@jostnamane3951 4 ай бұрын

@@JoJo-hj4tx you have absolutely no understanding of how power structures work and why certain countries are sanctioned for having a different perspective or outlook on life.

@smiklkhan8162 3 ай бұрын

When you have chosen such an intense topic with thinking beautiful minds, one thing you should have assured that their voice reaches us !!!

@laxminarayan-vg7ms 3 ай бұрын

Jab kabhi bhi javed sir ko sunnte hai( lisen) hai . Aur bhi naye tarike se rational,logical human bann jate hai So thanks sir❤

@farazahmad7229 29 күн бұрын

@jatinpandey9964 21 күн бұрын

Stupid javed

@geonsorigin2108 4 ай бұрын

We don't need religion but we do need Dharma.

@sohampatel-bm7gt 4 ай бұрын

The baisness of the host is quite evident. Makarand point was cut cleverly at various intervals. He is making very correct point.

@rayzimmerman6740 4 ай бұрын

baisness.???...very cooect point??? get an education to start - then opine.

@Human-xz2gr 4 ай бұрын

@@rayzimmerman6740 Javed Akhtar has very shallow knowledge and he talks nonsence. India was already rich before the Islamic invaders came. In fact only because of its wealth the invaders wanted to be here and plunder it.

@anandanmathivanan4712 4 ай бұрын

Cut has been inflicted in Makarands speech because he is trying to propogate one religion.

@sainikpraveen 4 ай бұрын

@@anandanmathivanan4712not all religions are same. Islam is an expansionary religion with force and hiduism is not. So clearly one is better than the other. When speaking on these facts, people want to get offended and not allow one to speak. What good is this debate then? You will only allow to speak those who agree with your view? Is that the intolerance you are imbibing from Islam?

@Insaniyat980 4 ай бұрын

@tusharbhosle5937 2 ай бұрын

Well done Mr. Paranzape 🙏

@sav9500 2 күн бұрын

I feel grateful that people like javed sir exist in india today who are not scared to speak directly on these topics and debate with all such people. Many want to bring him down becasue he was born in a muslim family despite him being an atheist or because he is very direct in speaking the facts however they cannot take away from the rational and meaningful points he puts across.

@DharmendraRaiMindMap 4 ай бұрын

Rationality offers a serenity most humans never experience

@NaRc0s_G 4 ай бұрын

You can be a Rationalist and still believe there is a Creator and Pray to it for whatever reason. They are not necessarily mutually exclusive. In fact, stating out right there can't be a creator, (it can be a he or she or even a it) is actually Irrational. Don't you think ?

@DharmendraRaiMindMap 4 ай бұрын

@@NaRc0s_G it is rational to believe there may be a creator and proof would be welcome

@DharmendraRaiMindMap 4 ай бұрын

@@NaRc0s_Gstating there can't be a creator is an irrational statement

@NaRc0s_G 4 ай бұрын

@@DharmendraRaiMindMap "stating there can't be a creator is an irrational statement". Yes that's what I am saying, These dumbos who call themselves as "Atheists" are not actually Atheists, they are anti-theist. If someone wants to be to Scientifically correct/ rational, they should instead say, they don't even know if they is a God or Not, they can never know. There is word for it, it's called being Agnostic. And when it comes to topic like, Existence of God/creator of this Universe, these so called Atheist are as dumb as people who say God exists. That's what the other speaker what was trying to say, unlike other religion, Hinduism is not actually a religion, it's a collection of philosophies to lead your life. You may either believe in God, you may not, both are welcomed in Hinduism. There isn't one book you have to follow, there are many, just discard the bad things and all you are left with is philosophies which will help you better your life. That's what Hinduism is all about. There are philosophies, just select what you like, discard everything else. There is no blasphemy, because Hinduism is not even a religion in the first place. Would love to know, where you beg to differ ?

@ashwinkhambadkone394 4 ай бұрын

Look at the pseudo rational Akhtar foaming in his mouth

@mitrasaxena437 4 ай бұрын

Hats off to Javed Sahab...for a branded Muslim to call out negatives is much more courageous...while Makarand sidelined the practice of A caste based Hindu society ...in all the thousands of years ...between the Vedic times and ....after

@ibrahimabdullah6886 4 ай бұрын

Well said

@Insaniyat980 4 ай бұрын

@arvindmishra9840 4 ай бұрын

Are you a Hindu Mitra ji?

Күн бұрын

I wish all debates have such good moderators

@koul09876 Ай бұрын

We as Indians need everything.. We only need to stop hating each other.. 😂😂.

@singhsaab33321 27 күн бұрын

Hate comes from one side the rest is reactionary

@rohitbiswal 4 ай бұрын

Javed didn't mention the killing and atrocities to Hindu by Mougal .

@teakadai43 4 ай бұрын

Like Upper caste Hindus doing over thousands of year to Dalits.

@ujjwalyadav3783 4 ай бұрын

@@teakadai43no proof of that

@teakadai43 4 ай бұрын

@@ujjwalyadav3783 In Mahabharata, Eklavya was more Talented than Arjuns. But Still he was not Considered as Equal to Arjuna Only because of he was Lower Caste. This is Was just a Example from Yours Books. Even Now Dalits cannot Enter Temple.

@ujjwalyadav3783 4 ай бұрын

@@teakadai43 in mahabharat eklavya was the son of commander in chief of the army of magadh- the most powerful army. 😭

@teakadai43 4 ай бұрын

@@ujjwalyadav3783 he was belongs to a Lower Caste.

@bskeshav 4 ай бұрын

Why is Javed Akhtar addressed as "Javed Sahab"? At the same time, you address Makarand Paranjape as just "Makarand" Why this distinction???

@satyapraveenmareddla9357 4 ай бұрын

Age

@darklight898 4 ай бұрын

Javed g is seniir citizen and a respectible writer ..

@chandra_yaan 4 ай бұрын

Because this was cheating done across show so as loser Javed will be seen as a winner... All leftist cry baby incompetent comperer also loser

@bharatvedprakash1308 4 ай бұрын

Mu$lim privilege

@Human-xz2gr 4 ай бұрын

@dinesh6489 3 ай бұрын

Javeed ji on fire. he nailed it.

@ankitroy7 4 күн бұрын

Whenever someone asks me tell me a man who is a professor and know how to manipulate facts, I reply with the name of the gentleman sitting on the right

@ivorodrigues1976 4 ай бұрын

Magnificent debate. This is what India is all about. Coming together of perspective 's. Wonderful.

@RojaJaneman 4 ай бұрын

Wow 🤦‍♀️

@Insaniyat980 4 ай бұрын

@ivorodrigues1976 4 ай бұрын

@@Insaniyat980 Religion is a very personal matter dear. They are just debating their personal views. In the end to each their own. What is important is that we allow each other the space to grow through our own experiences. This is the essence of mostly every other religion.What do you think ?

@prashanttyagi736 4 ай бұрын

Javed sahab high level knowledge and logical thinking.

@user-pm4jo5uz4r 4 ай бұрын

is there a faceoff between muslim believer vs javed, and javed is bashing off quran and hadith. First try to Clean your house and community.

@spuriusscapula4829 3 ай бұрын

@@user-pm4jo5uz4r the same way you should try cleaning yours?

@Coffeewithmanoj 2 ай бұрын

God is the santa claus for the adults. This made me trip :D :D :D . Javed Rocks!!

@saadiquemerchant 2 ай бұрын

I think its important to make the distinction between religion defined by the books, and religion by the politicians. Religion should be used for personal reasons for bringing inner peace and peace amongst community. The moment it's used for politics, then that's not religion but a form of communalism

@RakeshGhangas 4 ай бұрын

Kudos to Javed Sahab 👏👏👏👏👏

@youthwave 4 ай бұрын

Prof. Makarand's points are highly rational. A healthy discussion enriches mind.

@AmarkantVishwakarma 4 ай бұрын

Do you believe in casteism? Do you support intercaste marriage?

@youthwave 4 ай бұрын

@@AmarkantVishwakarma Yes. Individual is more important than invisible caste tag.

@youthwave 4 ай бұрын

@@AmarkantVishwakarma No.

@MR.FlyingMonkey 4 ай бұрын

@@AmarkantVishwakarmathey won't do intercaste marriage 😂😂

@shanblues7257 4 ай бұрын

I would like to know how does a carpet have consciousness. Secondly, does Hinduism not believe in one or multiple Gods who are very powerful and very nice beings? So, doesn't that make it alike other religions as to the presence of a God and since Javed considers it irrational, it does make Hinduism irrational too, isn't it? Third, Manu Smriti has beautiful verses. But so do Quran and Bible. But does it negate the presence of bad verses?

@KheraShanu 2 ай бұрын

perfect mediator and perfect debaters! loved it!

@ImranAnsari-kw5pj Ай бұрын

“In the entire debate, there was no discussion about atheism and religion difference ; it was just an attempt to somehow show that Hinduism is better than Islam.”

@drindrajeetasija5218 4 ай бұрын

Why does the moderater address Javed with prefix Saab while she calls Prof Makrand only as Makrand

@tinguzz 4 ай бұрын

Javed is Sabah . . . originated from Family of Prophet.

@beenasingh3316 4 ай бұрын

❤valid observation

@robin4singh 4 ай бұрын

@@tinguzzprophet is mythology, never excited beyond stories, no parallel reference or proofs are found anywhere.

@anilkaralamangala1431 4 ай бұрын

The Hindu or the Sanatanis are the only courteous people, they don’t care what they are addressed as, just listen to the cheering of Javed when he says he doesn’t believe in any religion. The audience may be the picked seculars.

@rajnikant1948 4 ай бұрын

Anchor addressing Javed as Sahab and Profeesor with no similar respectful word is because of legacy of slave mentality of Hndus ruled over and enslaved for 800 yrs by foreign Moghul and British invaders.😂

@mamtajha3147 4 ай бұрын

Javedjee your tone itself & label yourself as rational, shows you believe yourself to be superior

@user-gd4wt6oi7y 3 ай бұрын

Aesthetic sensibilities in art architecture is a totally different matter in conversing heritages, and it shows that what kind of human minds existed steeped in crafts skills no more today.

@Yogamindmastery Ай бұрын

5:10 Logic says. There is a spiritual being. People have been there. I have met them. I have felt spiritual around them. It's completely logical. Javed Akhtar has had very limited experience. 7:05 Questioning is a good thing. Confusing faith, belief, religion and spirituality is different. Spirituality doesn't belong to any religion. 11:31 Very good point Makarand Ji. 14:36 Very good point by Javed Akhtar 17:17 There are various levels of consciousness and to find and become consciousness of the entire mind is the point of meditation. 18:26 It's not slightly pregnant. It's completely with god. 19:06 Agreed. 33:15 Very good arguments. Hindu vs Hindutva 41:14 What a conclusion by Javed Sir

@rahulkadle8240 4 ай бұрын

Burnol moment for Javed. Lol quite typical of his ilk. Paranjape was brilliant and kept his cool.

@lakshmisrinivas9454 4 ай бұрын

Totally agree 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@sarveshsingh8050 4 ай бұрын

Bholi bhakti

@merebaap8370 4 ай бұрын

If you could understand what he meant then you should be called Vishwaguru.😂😂😂😂😂

@ayush6sept09 4 ай бұрын

Pseudo secularist

@lightyagami-qk3gq 14 күн бұрын

kept his cool???.he almost jumped off his chair

@indermohansinghmalhotra3730 4 ай бұрын

It was a marvelous public discussion between a highly trained intellectual & a natural one with intrinsic intellect & many gifts. "Thank you", to the chanel, the hosts, the debaters & to the brilliant, extraordinary anchor! 🙏😊 My question: why is the program truncated midway 🤷? Why hasn't it been allowed to conclude in a civilized way?

@jhunuj6243 4 ай бұрын

What was so marvelous. J behaved as illiterate

@ChildFirst 4 ай бұрын

Javed lacks Knowledge of History and So about Spirituality within Dharma, also... He is somewhat toxicological. Moderator is partial towards Makrand and diplomatically manipulative, Moderator are not to give his/her view by interrupting in between. Makrand is a professor whereas Javed is not a researcher and if a person is Communist/Leftist/Atheist can never pick books to read & learn about Dharma within indic religion and for the sake Chinese Philosopher/Dhamra as well. Javed is also using his age to manipulate the debate and reactive with rage/anger.

@TheAaryanQ 4 ай бұрын

i was there and it's supposed to be a 50 min session it was a part of IFP and upcoming sessions and guests were lined up, maybe eth host could have been more strict with javed but ofcourse when such a big perosnity involved you kind of want to give em a few mins leeway for power diffference, i remember javed juvenielly threatening that he come to this annual festival again next year if he isnt given last word despite him being given ample time, this was not the sole even and this is when a thinker develops rationalist enough ego to touch on narcisism, i am saying all this despite bieng a fan of javed and an agnostic myself

@Human-xz2gr 4 ай бұрын

@Insaniyat980 4 ай бұрын

@learningislife212 8 күн бұрын

What Dr Paranjape said about removing the bad things from religion might seem awesome on paper,but that's where the main problem lies: who will decide what is good and what is bad...And if someone decides,is there a way to disprove it,no right? And amidst so many different religions,can there ever be an unanimity. Above all religipns are so vast and so very dependent on interprets that its easily liable to be distorted and used for suitable gains... That's the problem with religion...And as to Javed saheb, he's as always bang on point

@varghesechacko6811 3 ай бұрын

Javed is eye opener to the world.Manipulation in religion is very subtle.For eg I am supposed to say jai ram ji ki as greeting to all Indians even if they not hindus.Then I have the right to say to say jai shaitaan ji ki or jai ravan ki in response.And nobody should feel bad ! 😅

@singhkaushlendra9 4 ай бұрын

Beautifully debated by Dr Makarand paranjpe sir. I respect Javed sahab but he is really unaware of many historical facts about mughal. He himself said don't become others. What remains to debate after that.

@ANILKUMAR-tw5xe 4 ай бұрын

It is the responsility of people like Javed Akhtar to preach tolarence and inclusiveness to the followers of his religion and also followers of his atheism.

@m.ishakziaee9861 4 ай бұрын

Abay ghanchakkar! He left his birth religion ling time ago, abhi tak nai samjha??!

@jostnamane3951 4 ай бұрын

How can you derive "tolerance" from an arbitrary starting point if there's only "what is"?

@auhmav04 4 ай бұрын

didnt javed indicate he's an atheist? im pretty sure he's atheist

@shanblues7257 4 ай бұрын

His religion and his atheism? Bro, you confused or what?

@bjbharath 4 ай бұрын

His religion and atheists is itself an oxymoron which morons dont get it. Atheists dont care about any religion nor incite violence in the name of god or religion so its the responsibility of religious people to maintain peace since they are the ones who take offence to their gods and religion and incite violence.

@sivaajaykumarveeranki1305 3 ай бұрын

The discussion is out of the topic mentioned but i always enjoy when javed sab is vocal

@deepakgautam2910 3 ай бұрын

Mr javed is 100% right 👍🏿 I also felt the same, I'm struggling to find some validation for a long long time but now There's a Man Who exactly thinks like me 🙏🏿🙌🏿

@introvert_2023 4 ай бұрын

35:04 He accepted the Distinction that Hinduism is much more plural and progressive than monotheistic religions like Islam/Christianity.

@JoJo-hj4tx 4 ай бұрын

That right wing professor couldn't understand javed sahab point that all religions are the same because as you can see any country doesn't matter from which religion they have following but whenever they choose religion instead of secularism they have totally been vanished like iraq iran Afghanistan pakistan Even if you go to india before democracy then you can easily find out beautiful sati pratha breast tax child marriages devadasi niyog etc etc even you can compare current india from 20 years old India then 20 years old india was much progressive than the current india just because of religious politics As he said there was not any words like dalit but the question is why were the aystem of upper & lower caste this is how religion evolved & extremism born for ex islam came from saudi arabia but if you see the saudi islam then you can find out shia & sunni islam but when that islam evolved in india then ahmadia islam happened even there are majority of muslims who óppose ahmadia as a muslim but the point is this is how religion evolved just like a cancer if it happened in your body then it can be grown up

@Ritesh-rj1sp 4 ай бұрын

Yes he accepted because he want to embarrass Hindus again and again like he did in sholay

@jostnamane3951 4 ай бұрын

But that is a normative statement. You cannot derive "progressivism" from the fact that the world IS a certain way. Therefore a religion being progressive or regressive is completely arbitrary. Social norms or prevailing culture isn't what we are supposed to use to define whether something should be considered progressive or regressive. He already lost the plot if he used normative statements to try to prove which religion is better.

@bluesparrow10 4 ай бұрын

Moderator already gave her judgement by calling javed as rational😂😂😂

@KaithHanda 2 ай бұрын

Good job IFP. It was worthing to spend 45 minutes. Keep uploading for the enlightenment.

@Low_Marine 29 күн бұрын

The moderator is top notch. Always helped guide the conversation, gave context and nuance whenever required and did not let the essence of the debate lose. Edit- Ok maybe they did lose it at the end with Javed Akhtar going haywire. It was going so well before that.

@beenasingh3316 4 ай бұрын

❤makarand Paranjape you have just established our feelings so well. Shoma could not discipline him 😂

@JoJo-hj4tx 4 ай бұрын

@adithyah95 2 ай бұрын

Are you sure? In India, secularism has come to mean advancing Islam. You can see it in Javed Akhtar’s examples of Akbar and other Mughals as secular. India didn’t go that way because of it’s strongly rooted religious traditions. Akhtar and the leftists want to deracinate Indians with ‘modern rationality’ to wipe the slate clean, so India too can go that way. In your own examples, the collapsed states are those where Islam managed to overcome the indigenous religions. Sanatana Dharma doesn’t ask for faith, it asks for logic… Akhtar’s is a straw man argument.

@jatinpandey9964 21 күн бұрын

Javed Akhtar is stupid person

@angshumanpodder4415 3 ай бұрын

Logic and faith can coexist. Consider the great Ramunajam for example. Unfortunately, that has not been perpetuated as we have a singular view of which should be more powerful. We should all remember: Logic appeals to the cognitive mind, faith appeals to the emotional mind.

@ashishjoshi4061 27 күн бұрын

It's always treat to listen to Javed Saab.

@aasifali9139 4 ай бұрын

There are cuts in this video, plzz upload the uncut video. btw great talk.

@MR.FlyingMonkey 4 ай бұрын

When Lindus can't Defend their Hinduism ! Then divert debate towards abrahamic religions 😂 Oldest Kulture strategy 😂🤡🚩

@nabajyotipaul7635 4 ай бұрын

Very good now get out of my country@@MR.FlyingMonkey

@wutangmuslin 4 ай бұрын

@@MR.FlyingMonkey stop with these inciting comments. Don't promote hate speech.

@MR.FlyingMonkey 4 ай бұрын

@@wutangmuslin why they play Whatabouttry ?

@spuriusscapula4829 3 ай бұрын

@@MR.FlyingMonkey dude I'm an atheist, and I criticize Hinduism. But looking at your profile, I seriously doubt that you're one... the odds point to you being a Muslim. And the irony of you people using vile words like "pajeet", when that word very well could be used for you.

@pankajsen132 4 ай бұрын

Religion has now became a belief system when viewed through Abhrahmic lens. The Indian understanding is very different. Javed Akhtar is a convenient atheist. His movies are there to see. He talks about Akbar only because he is Muslim and not because he studied what Akbar did. That’s why Bollywood writers glorified invaders.

@venkataramanakotamraju9414 4 ай бұрын

They glorified invaders because 1. They always considered the invaders as their ancestors. 2. They Got lots of money from the invaders class like Dawood and other intellectuals of same class inside and outside the country.

@subhajitroy3644 4 ай бұрын

Akbar never declared himself as a Muslim. Rather he was despised by Islam as a heretic. He founded and propagated a new religious faith named Din-i-Ilahi.

@ChandanKumar-dw8kc 4 ай бұрын

@@venkataramanakotamraju94143. Petro-dollar

@venkataramanakotamraju9414 4 ай бұрын

@@subhajitroy3644 doesn't matter what he called himself. He cause untold misery to Hindus. Johar happened because of him. 30000 civilians were slaughtered in one attack by him and his cruel army. He was also illiterate that he could not even read or write. What cult he has started is his own problem. Doesn't make a big difference especially when coming from a rakshas like him.

@jostnamane3951 4 ай бұрын

Any worldview is a belief system. That's not an argument. What is the Indian understanding you tell us? India is a land where different theological foundations with often contradictory narratives flourished alongside. Among one of those who rejected the Vedic infallibility in their times [The Nastikas] were indeed heretics. But the same heretics today are revered by many Astikas of India. You ask the question, why? Why revere the people who rejected the signs of the unseen? Is there no universal understanding of Indian philosophy? Or there's no Indian understanding to begin with and it's just an umbrella term for a set of distinct theological foundations with often contradictory narratives.

@julualjay 2 ай бұрын

Kitna interesting discussion tha..... I can listen it 24 hours 😊 are you thinking the same as me? ❤❤❤

@geti52 2 ай бұрын

Moderator was the best, kudos to her for doing a wonderful job. Liked the speakers too.

@pavitraaprashant2175 4 ай бұрын

Basically Javed is saying that hindus should tolerate the abuses and also wants hindus to ask muslims to become like them all expectations from hindus but he has no.guts to ask muslims that why they can't tolerate Taslima and Salman rushdie😊

@Human-xz2gr 4 ай бұрын

Javed is ashamed of his religion. But he has a big ego to accept that Dharma is much superior concept than majhab.

@user-wb8vl8li8z 4 ай бұрын

A section of hindus are intolerant at this point of time

@curious_one1156 4 ай бұрын

He did not say that. Once.

@murn3229 4 ай бұрын

basically you're stupid.

@pavitraaprashant2175 3 ай бұрын

@Human-xz2gr That's the hypocracy and in urdu it's munafiqat which is taught them in their mazaa hub

@sreematbhiksu4536 4 ай бұрын

Loving kindness, compassion, appreciative joy and forgiveness these four human qualities are real Dharma and religion.

@compassioniseverything4262 2 ай бұрын

Agreed

@shivsagarsingh8315 2 ай бұрын

All three of them are just awesome. In india its difficult to have such moderatera like her. She has indepth knowledge of topics she headed, not like current godi media.

@buddhadipmukherjee4255 2 ай бұрын

The way the moderator scolded them at 20:01 was hilarious. Also, Javed Sahab and the moderator's interactions somehow feel like the interactions between a stubborn mule of a father and a highly sensible daughter. 😂😂 Good debate. I, personally, completely agree with Javed Sahab. He's not only a brilliant poet, but a highly learned scholar who doesn't hesitate to be brutally honest. Respect. ❤

@murthybhagavatula3892 4 ай бұрын

Prof. Makarand Parnjape is on the Dot!

@rmt1508 4 ай бұрын

Well done Prof Makrand you have exposed both in front of you.it will be excellent if we could watch the uncut portion also..👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏

@narinderpalsingh5349 3 ай бұрын

We need Religion,s guidelines in every day ❤❤❤❤

@ROMEO-CHARLIE 2 ай бұрын

Jawed sahab is clear cut not beating around the bush bcz think if religion is not exist how wonderful the world become And its not about the religion if two caste are big in population they also fight with each other despite of belongs to same religion We divided by religions then by castes then by gotras...... continues on an unending game

@shobhitsaxena948 4 ай бұрын

It was a very healthy and enlightening discussion. A wise person is one who takes valuable ideas from both the speakers without being biased.

@rabinderkoul1577 3 ай бұрын

To be wise and find wisdom, one needs to be at least educated. Javed is not and you indicate that you are neither.

@shobhitsaxena948 3 ай бұрын

@@rabinderkoul1577 I don't understand what made you feel like I'm not educated. I'm an MBBS graduate and a practicing medical officer. Even if you don't fully agree with someone, they can teach you valuable things.

@deepsareen1 3 ай бұрын

@@rabinderkoul1577 To say what you said; without knowing a person, is surely lack of education.

@rabinderkoul1577 3 ай бұрын

@@deepsareen1 One does not have to know a person completely. The Comments on the public forum on specific topic exposes the person about how educated, a person is ona specific issue. If you cannot figure this much, I pity the Schools and teachers who educated you.

@surajk7295 4 ай бұрын

Paranjape good sir Spoke with clarity but slight correction on hindutva as it means knowing essence of sanatana dharma in depth which Hindu was disconnected from long as text book not taught and nor parents🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@radhakrishnanmadhavan1277 Ай бұрын

Fully agrees with Javed.❤

@easovanmelil Ай бұрын

We are humans,it is our duty to protect the lives of the world of human,animals and rare species of all in earth including plants.

@abhishekbanerjii 4 ай бұрын

As anchors can you keep a bit quiet and let the SPEAKERS talk. Thats why they are invited

@curious_one1156 4 ай бұрын

Moderators are meant to stop them when they are breaking decorum.

@karthikshettyable 4 ай бұрын

We don't need religions. We need to follow dharma. Live a just and peaceful life

@sandeepkumar6240 Ай бұрын

Muslim religion and brahman(mainly upper caste) destroyed akhand bharat, culture philosophy and all indian orgin religion. One gave peaceful mazhab and afjal com in the world and second give caste system,cruptio and shrest caste in indian ocean claim himself meritdhari, even they don't know the currectt history,economics,basic philosophy,psychology,civilization. Both give ganga jamuni tahjeeb and oppoesd womenright,killed, Torchered, physically and mentally many year on year If you read ambedkar ji in detail and watch exmuslim channel.

@conservativeyogi Ай бұрын

Here's my rebuttal to Mr. Javed. If you gain knowledge only through the instruments of your material body naming the 5 senses, mind, intellect, etc, then your idea of reality/truth is very limited. We all know that the ability to see, hear, smell, touch, taste is limited (in fact some animals have must more better instruments) - therefore the scientific method is limited to collect information and data. The other thing is that someone one (the very person that is doing the observing) is unable to be studied or examined by the material instruments. That is where spirituality and religion comes in. We see consciousness and insentient objects in the world. We do not see or perceive the soul but we see the expression/symptom of it in conscious beings. The ability to see, smell, hear, taste, touch, think and express, free will etc. Many of our beliefs are based on blind faith to some extent as our senses are limited and we rely on information from others for that knowledge. An example - your wife loves you. How do you know? She could be faking it by her gestures, orgasms, and being courteous, inside she may hate you to the core! But if you use your instruments of knowledge (senses) - you are easily deluded and never able to see inside her mind to know her feelings towards you. Therefore there is blind faith that is involved.