Becoming Dutch | Defending a Villain in RDR2

[@Hollowly]

PSA: I said revolutionary war when I meant civil war. No elaborate explanation just a straight up whoopsie there. Thank you guys so much for 400 Subs! The support on this channel has been absolutely crazy and I love hearing about all your lives and how these videos affected you. By the time my next video comes out I'm going to have an email to contact me for business stuff and maybe something like a ko-fi where people can do a small subscription for behind the scenes stuff (maybe like soundtracks and access to early versions of the video/live premiers and discussion sessions). Drop your stories about your life, fatherhood, and whatever this video made you feel here!

[@SirLordSpam]

unforgivable

[@Hollowly]

​@@SirLordSpam Look there's a lot of wars okay.

[@DawnFeather960]

Dutch taking Arthur as a given is known, and there is dialogue in the game if you stretch out the ride in Country Pursuits. A hated mission, but the dialogue reveals a lot about Dutch, what he thinks, and the stress he is feeling even as early as Chapter 4 before the bank job. I firmly believe that Dutch changed. I think of it like the honor system. Dutch before Blackwater was high honor; killing that girl, Anglo, Gloria, and leaving Arthur and John were all things that caused him to lose himself and his honor. If Dutch was always the same con man, then I think it cheapens the story; it means that he never truly cared for Arthur and John. He lived every day lying to his best friend, Hoesa, to his former lover, Miss Grimshaw, and all the other people within the camp. Instead, these feelings were genuine; you can see it when Hoesa, Arthur, and Dutch go fishing, with Dutch telling Arthur that he's more than a son to him and how Arthur complains that no one else would have been forgiven as easily as John had been. It wasn't favoritism when Dutch forgave John for leaving, but a father welcoming back his rebellious teenager. All these moments is why it hurts so much more to see Dutch become the man he is at the end of the story, like Sadie says, "The man who wrapped that cloak around me isn't the same man at Beaver Hollow."

[@Hollowly]

@@DawnFeather960 I see it the same way. I think a lot of what they wanted to say with Dutch in RDR2 is that the death of a dream can do terrible things to a person. I do stick by the fact that what he already had was basically his end goal though, and that what he was doing was far more about his pursuit of a principle than it ever was about an eventual escape for the gang. It’s an odd thing because he sees them as his family, but also as his army for his righteous cause “a king surrounded by his knights,” as uncle put it.

[@Hollowly]

@@DawnFeather960 also thanks for checking out the video!

[@pickitup7008]

phenomenal video. i’m a father who failed in an electrical business. but i always put my family first and we all learned from my mistakes. i’m a better man and a better father for it. RDR2 is the greatest game ever

[@Hollowly]

You never fail for long if you put your family first 💯RDR2 is top 5 for me for sure. Life changing game. I’m so glad you enjoyed it!

[@soulextract640]

RDR series is hands down the best cowboy games in history imo.

[@Hollowly]

@@soulextract640 outside of a choice few I can’t think of too many alternatives 😂 definitely easily the best. Arthur Morgan I’d say is probably the best main character in a game as well.

[@ryanhodge2721]

Not even limited to games. It’s the best outlaw/cowboy story period.

[@Puzzled_Peanut_Brain]

​@@ryanhodge2721not really limited to cowboy stuff either. Just the best game oat imo

[@andrewcastillo5003]

Your opinion is fact sir, cold hard fact, it's not even close

[@r.rodriguez4991]

​@@ryanhodge2721That's crazy.

[@theradiumgirl9298]

My bad, thought this video was about becoming a Dutch citizen. Good night

[@O5Councilor]

😭

[@Hollowly]

Yknow I had that thought immediately after selecting that title, and I wanted to put a short blurb about that at the end but this video has already been remade twice and I didn’t have it in me 😂

[@Jardeezius]

I saw the original too, and I gotta say I don't know if I love what you cut out, I feel like a lot of that section was really relatable, I thought you might at least move it to later in the video or something rather than cut out the part about your childhood completely. Still an excellent video! Still think it's my favorite of yours so far even with the change. Be well!

[@Hollowly]

Tbh most of the reason I cut that out was I felt that it dragged on for too long. I was going to try and salvage some of it but I couldn’t condense it so I just changed it completely. I’m glad you still enjoyed it despite the changes!

[@Garland846]

Great video but small point at 7:44 , I think Dutch is on the same level as Arthur, John and Micah if not a little below just based on how he carries himself in battle & the way he sniped John's binoculars from such a distance with nothing but a pistol

[@Hollowly]

Y'know I did think of that after I made this video (I haven't played the original RDR in years). There was also the part in RDR2 where he blasts Cornwall and tbh that was pretty impressive too. Although Cornwall might've just been caught off guard by the sheer audacity of that move lol. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video though!

[@Garland846]

@@Hollowlynp keep up the good work!!

[@thatgreenpotato1027]

Red dead is The ultimate cowboy sandbox game

[@Hollowly]

@@thatgreenpotato1027 man I loved it before, but with the mod that fixes the law system a bit? After that it was perfect. Original law system was real goofy 😂

[@cblimes]

of course he could see it coming. deep stuff, love it

[@Hollowly]

I kinda wanted to make the thumbnail title “he wanted this,” because I firmly believe that Dutch dying for his principles and his vision was his endgame in many ways, but it didn’t fit 😂

[@pickitup7008]

civil war not revolutionary* that is all

[@Hollowly]

Ur kidding me I said revolutionary?? Thank god that’s at least later in the video before people realize I’m an idiot 😂 gonna have to add a slide about that.

[@pickitup7008]

@@Hollowly 😂😂

[@Ronaldodaldinho]

I like the Djinn comparison for Dutch! especially from the outside looking in that's a very valid point. little scary in terms of the real world side of that. You kind of build on it with the false promises element but also bring his humanity into play. Really interesting perspective overall.

[@Hollowly]

I’m glad you liked it! That was actually what I changed in the second version of this, I felt like the original intro dragged too long before I talked about RDR2 😂

[@KoreCobb-li2rd]

Thank You...

[@Hollowly]

@@KoreCobb-li2rd thanks for checking out multiple videos! Love to see ppl in more than one place ❤️

[@elfynwilliams1280]

This video was amazing

[@Hollowly]

I'm so glad you enjoyed it!

[@yes-yv6wc]

ah yes dutch van der linde 6 years old in 1776

[@Hollowly]

Yes his fantastic genetics for aging are rarely talked about, next week I’ll be dropping a video about his skincare routine.

[@IgorFilippov-kd7nr]

​@@HollowlyI always thought that he looks like a vampire 😂

[@Hollowly]

@@IgorFilippov-kd7nr especially like a “what we do in the shadows,” type absolutely. And he kind of is from a metaphorical standpoint.

[@OuiMatsu]

I know its not as personal, but I do like the new intro a lot better. Still cried at the Arthur death scene even though I saw the original 2 days ago 🥲

[@Hollowly]

@@OuiMatsu yeah that scene never fails to hit hard 🤣 editing was rough.