RDR2: Low Honor Arthur Changed My Life!

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[@borekstvorek]

and that video is also very good 🙂

[@ImmortalIdeas]

I felt the same way. After my 3rd play thru. I realized, that right after chapter 2. Your suppose to start to become a better man. Downs was the last straw it seems. So on my next playthru. I tried to play it exactly how the game wanted me to. And it was very cool. And actually difficult.

[@CHITOFYB]

I’ve never played a full low honor playthrough in rdr 2. I’d start out bad but when Arthur gets sick I do a full 180 in my honor ever since my first ever playthrough. I absolutely refuse to see Arthur die any other way. A story that has such an impact on my own view on a fictional character and in my own way fight to make sure he turns out good, to honor his wishes- just goes to show how how amazing rockstar is at story telling

[@PremoSaysThings]

A wonderful comment to read. Thanks for posting!

[@godzillazfriction]

more of the same, low honor to high honor spew because ppl are not willing to gain a new outlook of perspectives when trying to do a full low honor playthrough but can't blame ppl like you in the RDR community because of how Rockstar chose to prioritise their writing of the Honor system in RDR2...

[@greenruges6946]

My first play through I was the lowest of honor but when Arthur started coughing his lungs out in Saint Denis something changed in me. At the time I had no knowledge the honor system impacted the ending too

[@sacoto98]

I'm gonna be honest, I'm a very nice guy, but for some reason, the npcs decide to call me jackass, fool and say other offensive things and since I'm loaded with guns, I just blast them 😅. Apart from that and the ocasional npc walking in front of my galloping horse, I always make the high honor choice

[@eklypse69]

Same. I have reached 100% completion 10 times. I can't do it as a bad guy.

[@ipadprogamer6763]

5 years on, and we still talk about this game, that’s why it’s the best game most of us have ever played!

[@brandontan3938]

Rdr2 is also my favorite game. What other games can give you this feeling? I have only been playing nba 2k these days

[@ineptwizzard]

@@brandontan3938 closest for me is Last of Us 2 and Uncharted 4 actually. I think both of those also have some good lessons on being a human.

[@Kelsdoggy]

I just played and finished It for the first time it’s incredible. It’s definitely timeless.

[@kamilkaduk4992]

​@@brandontan3938 in terms of open world, I think that only witcher 3 is on the same level.

[@jayrom14]

U ever play fortnite?

[@jarvis1148]

every time i see arthur’s death it feels like i’m watching a loved one die i swear i genuinely mourn his death as if he’s real

[@PremoSaysThings]

It is always shocking to see even after the play through I agree

[@WetbackNoSetback]

Because just like Dutch, Arthur gave you all he had

[@xeta180]

dude hes sick but hes not real

[@MrBet1001]

I agree I died with low honor sadly but I replayed the game and beat the game with high honor the ending was sad

[@kyju7093]

That feeling is real there’s a real sense of loss you experience seeing a character you invested so much time into and watched them change also all the legendary trapper cloths all the progress and all the things you weren’t able to do with Arthur are also gone with him so that feeling of loss is felt in a literal loss of time and progress along with a well written character and story it makes the death feel real because you as the player feel genuine loss. It’s actually an incredible life lesson, sometimes we make plans and they don’t happen or we feel like we miss out on “what could have been” but what matters most is how we spend our lives and the end of our lives, spreading small acts of love and kindness will go a long way and the people you help along the way will remember you for your actions.

[@chrisedrev9519]

Not gonna lie, I cried like a wounded dog when Arthur died. I was so invested in this man's hopes and dreames. Never got to live a peaceful life like he wanted.

[@Retep86]

Same man same 😢 I never cried at character deaths in games or movies until I played rdr2 with and did my first play through on high honor

[@AndrewR21]

Bro randomly shooting horses 💀 yeah I hope it did make you rethink

[@PremoSaysThings]

Lmfao this made laugh so hard, whatever u say chucky 😂 thanks for watching

[@StonedNT]

I shoot the horses first so they don’t run off and I can loot the saddlebags. If Arthur’s gotta die in the end he’s gonna do whatever the fuck he wants along the way.

[@shariqhaider1225]

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[@dan271291]

Bro saddle bags are so much easier to loot when the horse aint trying to run or kick you in the face :D

[@TheVicvega26]

​@@StonedNTThat horse didn't have a saddle. Haha!

[@Randorr]

I went into my first playthrough with high honour- I've never played with low honour..and I've never seen the low honour endings before this. The way Micah sinks his knife into Arthur's chest- the fire all around them, you can hear the pain in Arthur's voice- THE WAY MICAH PUSHES THE KNIFE IN AND KILLS HIM?? The "damn us both!" in the other one and Micah's maniacal laughing- holy shit. the voice actors did a phenomenal job god fucking damn-- this is without a doubt the greatest game I've ever had the pleasure of playing 10/10

[@localtortoise]

Spoiler for take the money ending: That knife push doesn't kill him, it goes on a bit longer. But if you pick take the money, the endings the same no matter what your honour level is.

[@HakoTaco1]

@@localtortoise Wrong, going for the money with high honor is a different ending.

[@localtortoise]

@@HakoTaco1 oh. I hadn't tried the take the money ending. Every video I've watched where they take the money always has the same ending so I thought it was only the help John one that changed

[@HakoTaco1]

​@@localtortoiseYou're good, watch the one by GTA Series Videos. It's the best one.

[@CatLover-lk9gz]

​@@localtortoiseIn low honor Micah always finishes Arthur off, either with a knife, or with a shot through the head. "Heckuva shocker". High honor, Micah leaves with Dutch. Leaving you, the fatally wounded Arthur, to pass watching the sun rise.. I got a low honor leave the money, same ending shown. I saw Arthur as a man who saw he was dying, and tried to change... Too little, too late.

[@KletusLeeNixon]

It’s not a gta in the west, it’s an open world Cowboy game. People need to stop disrespecting these masterpieces.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Truth. 💯

[@WanderingLoner1]

You got that right! I hate it when they similarize them. Red dead redemption is a masterpiece of it's own and in it's own world at that.

[@Drago_012]

Also, GTA is like satire and making fun of american society. The fuck is RDR gonna ridicule? The Old West? 💀💀💀💀

[@Devin_Stromgren]

Even Rockstar made this mistake, judging by how they neglected RDR online.

[@GazB85]

​@@Drago_012There is a lot of satire of modern life and of that time in the game and especially in RDR1 and RDR: Undead Nightmare.

[@giariotkid]

Currently doing my second play through and even though I swore I’d play low honour, I just can’t bring myself to do it. I feel it would be betraying Arthur’s true self - although he’s a cynical and grouchy outlaw, I think he’s a softie at heart and always tries to do the right thing. The ‘A ❤ M’ in his journal after seeing Mary shattered my heart, he deserved so much better. I already know I’m gonna sob again when it comes to the final showdown! Arthur is Rockstar’s best character, without a shadow of a doubt.

[@lotta8959]

Same here! I started my 2nd playthrough a year ago and I'm two missions away from completing the main story, but I felt I just couldn't go through the ending again so I left it there. Recently I picked it up again thinking I'd finish the game, but I've found myself just riding my horse all over the map and spending time with Arthur.

[@JoshONeill-w8j]

He's meant to be low honour until after Guarma

[@nervosuss]

I've tried for low honour about 3 times now, and like you, I feel like I'm betraying him and end up with high honour, it's an awesome game ain't it?

[@neilthewheelio]

On my 2nd playthrough and convinced myself that unlike my 1st, it was going to be low honour all the way. I failed......I think you play the character equal to your own morals. I take no shit with people that deserve to be taught a lesson but will always help the good souls. Well done Rockstar, you nailed it.

[@HughJayness-pd5hn]

I’m the opposite. I’ve done 5 play throughs and I try to do high honor but it just not as fun. No shootouts or robberies. You have to do Mary’s missions. No executing random people. No tying them up and throwing them on fires or blowing them up with dynamite. No shooting anything and everything you see. It’s just not as fun

[@Willow_The_Whisp]

I constantly restart the story after completing it and I ALWAYS find new things that I didn't find before, I feel like to me- the game is endless. A perfect narrative with one of the most tenacious protagonist's in gaming history.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Well said. Great comment. Thank you

[@venkateshkumar6632]

Yes you are right

[@RomboutVersluijs]

Dang thats dedication. I out 366hoirs, had 4 year hiatus. But finished it -2 weeks ago after seeing MojavD play. I finished in high honor or good honor. Was the happy sort of ending

[@shiestysean]

Fa acts

[@miguellucero]

Damn you for making me relive Arthur’s Death. I replayed the game years later and kept Arthur in Chapter 3 or 4. There he can live forever. 😢

[@PremoSaysThings]

I’m sorry friend! Haha I keep Arthur in chapter 2 now but I miss going fishing with Hosea and Dutch

[@Cartman4wesome]

@@PremoSaysThingsChapter 2 is best because Micah is in Jail

[@candispong9233]

​@@Cartman4wesome the ONLY reason I save him is double holsters, he can can stay in his hermit crab camp though.

[@Arc-te5ze]

​@@candispong9233you can buy a second holster from the pelt guy, you just need to complete some Hunter mission

[@gerben5774]

​@@candispong9233 you can get second holster with all the challenges no need to free micah

[@stinkbug_max83]

this game still gives me chills with its soundtrack its so amazing

[@PremoSaysThings]

Was a pleasure working with the soundtrack for this video!

[@krrishivk0428]

Yep this game soundtracks are all soo good. I get goosebumps when I hear these soundtracks ❤❤

[@itzsoupYT]

As good as the soundtrack is, I wish the ambient music was as memorable as the first games was. That’s the only issue I have with the soundtrack.

[@passeur5526]

RDR2 saved my life. That’s not to say I would have died without it, but it is to say I wouldn’t be the man I am today if i never played it. When I first picked it up I was in the worst slump of my life, I was 14 and my dad has passed. My life before that wasn’t easy in enough of itself but I was surviving. After he died I gained nearly 100 pounds and was stuck in the house, nearly dropped out. A month after he died RDR2 came out, to which originally I had no interest because I was never one for cowboys. But I heard rockstar was making it and I saw a video of the gunplay which made me pick it up. My first play through I didn’t do any side missions or hunting or anything really, I just sped through killing anyone and everything. I got the bad ending, although I still tried to help John Arthur died with little dignity. Then I finished the game and replayed it one more time, trying to be good and going against my own instinct to rush through and get cool kills wherever I could. I started to pay attention to the story, and it was the first story in my life that I believe truly resonated with me. For all my life I’ve never believed myself worthy of redemption, I’ve always believed that my nature was inherently bad. That I had to be bad because no one was going to be good to me except for my mother and father. I had done bad things by that point, things that to this day I am ashamed of. Things I regret. I thought I was bound to live a bad life, doing bad things and being pushed and pulled by the whims of an uncaring and cruel world. But then during that replay I saw the impacts of my actions. I saw that choosing the right choices, doing the right thing even when it meant consequences upon me or losing out on cheap thrills that it could change the world around me. That I could make an impact. This game started me down the path to becoming better, a path I am still walking wearily today. I am trying my best every day to do right where I can do right, to be the change I want to see in this world. I recently picked up the game again, because I have lost even more then I ever thought I could have lost. I have lived more in these past 5 years then I could have ever thought I would, done more saw more and have left my mark. This game put me on a path I don’t believe I would have ever started down If it hadn’t came into my life. I can say with certainty that I am a better man for playing this game, and as I replay it now I hope I can regain the footing I have recently lost after all the pain I have suffered after my dads passing. Unrelated suffering that has shaken me to my core, I hope that this replay gives me the same solace as it did all those years ago.

[@trentonemy4241]

I hope it helped, and that you are doing better 🫶

[@DBailey94]

I hope you're doing better brother 🙏

[@hcoopo]

Trying to do the right thing is honorable. But trying to do it without God is meaningless. God doesn’t ask us first to do the right thing. He asks us, first, to seek him. If you open up the book he left for us, you will find more meaning, hope, and love than you could ever get from this world. In every person, there is a feeling that they long for something that they will never find in this world. That should be a good enough reason to believe that there is something beyond this. Read that book. Search, and you will find. God bless

[@gusehrr]

This was so high quality I just assumed you were some big youtuber with maybe about 100k subs. But turns out your severely under rated thank you for this video.

[@PremoSaysThings]

This comment made my day. I was skeptical if a video like this would do well but I’m blown away by the reception. I’m going in this direction going forward. Thank you for the comment and watching!

[@Zapatozi]

​@@PremoSaysThingsI'm inspired. Any tips/programs? Trying to grow.

[@CollectorCody73]

Sotrue

[@lobbyrobby]

Agreed. What a great video

[@mahdihijazi6521]

same here, subscribing because of this video

[@FirearmEnthusiast]

When Micah blew my head off on low honor my first play through I thought I just made a mistake and that I’d just restart the sequence. Boy when I realized that was meant to happen, I was completely in shock.

[@PremoSaysThings]

I feel like this comment really encapsulates how I felt during the ending. It was like I was playing a game the entire game, and then all the sudden - that game was real. My consequences were real. It was even more shocking than normal I think - because I actually had the ending spoiled for me, I knew he was gonna die of TB, and I knew he died on a mountain overlooking a sunset. I was anticipating that, so when Micah took Arthur’s life. Man. It was like a cold wind had passed through my body.

[@Wally_stad]

@@PremoSaysThingsthis just happened on my first play through.

[@techno__18]

I had medium honor throughout my first run but I went back for Dutch at the end because I was so mad at him and thought justice should be brought upon him. My ending with that path was different that the one showed in this video, however. Micah didn't stab me, Arthur convinced Dutch that Micah was a rat and they both ran off. I was left there to die somewhat peacefully in the burning camp. It was an absolutely gut wrenching ending but I knew John was going to be safe no matter what and I needed to see things out once and for all with Dutch.

[@r0yalr0sePT]

Redemption is in the title

[@WanderingLoner1]

Truly both the low honor endings are absolutely gut wrenching and leave you telling yourself "I wish I did better..." During Arthur's last ride you'll notice how the music is not just sad but also scary and chilling as opposed to when he has high honor which is a nice detail. When you make Arthur dishonorable it's like you're taking away his true self, his dignity, his genuinity etc... All things considered I'm glad you at least chose to help John at the end which was basically like an atonement. Arthur has a great place in my heart as one of the best video game protagonists and It would wound me to see him go out bad...

[@SnowdogBro-xj3ru]

I just finished this game with max high honor, I thought it was sad enough, knowing about the other endings makes it so much sadder, truly a masterpiece, can’t wait for rdr3

[@Fierroa1]

(*SPOILER) Damn, I’ve beaten this game doing both options and this is the first time I see Arthur get shot in the head in the ending. This game has insane levels of details it’s crazy.

[@ruffnready91]

Same I was like that didn't happen to me 😅😊

[@wesleykitchen7292]

There are 4 total endings

[@immaturemushroom3591]

Same, I thought maybe I skipped the cut scene, but I googled it and said there were multiple endings.

[@MrDeldris]

Each choice leads to 2 endings which depends on your honor. So there's go for the money with low honor, go for the money with high honor, help Jon with high honor and help Jon with low honor.

[@darkknight1586]

First of all! You do not ever beat this game. This is not possible. You either live this game or play this game! Never beat it!

[@kylodane190]

On my second playthrough I played low honor. Then Arthur got tuberculosis. After that i noticed the game gives you so many options to revive your honor and because of that i went from low honor to the highest honor there is. I feel like the devs want you to play the game in the first 5 chapters with low honor. Than in the last chapter make you change and become a good man. Arthur Morgan is one of the best dynamic protagonists ever written. And you can choose if you want Arthur to be a dynamic or static protagonist and that's why red dead redemption 2 is one of the best story games ever made. You have the full choice to pick what ever path you want and let that path speak to you at the end of the game.

[@TheHairline]

Insane to think that I played this game so late, and there's soooooo many people that are just now coming out with videos about it. Feeling exactly how I do. I ended on high honor, helped John, got the sunset at the end... it was a work night and I couldnt stop playing. I went into work looking like I'd just cried at a funeral. The 'thank you' to my horse that I'd had since Chapter 2.... One of the hardest emotional moments in a video game that I've played.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Incredible. Jealous of the first run being at high honor. I wish I paced myself to get there. Thank you for the wonderful comment it means a lot!

[@miikediffx]

Deadass bro 😂😂😂😂 I just bought this game bout 2-3 months ago I haven’t closed app since, I finished the game twice already 😭

[@completelytransparent6320]

Say alot about the game. The working condition for 6 years straight of crunch means we will never get a game this detailed and High quality again. Rip

[@miikediffx]

@@completelytransparent6320 gta 6 gang just wait

[@thedrifter1446]

@@miikediffx haha no gta 6 will be garbage narratively the writers are no longer there the hauser brothers and most of the rockstar veterans left by themselves the majority of gta are just satires and don't take things seriously that's why the only one quality gta and that is at the level of an RDR is gta IV

[@SKLLZTHATKILLZ]

High honor play through was definitely the most fun i had and most connected i felt to arthur and the world. Plus you can save all your badness for john since it doesnt really matter at that point

[@redted12345]

All the endings are fantastic, but if you have high honor and choose to go back for the money/revenge, you get to blind Micah in one eye permanently during the knife fight. Arthur still dies from that stab wound in his side but Micah slinks off and Arthur gets to see the rising sun and doesn’t get stabbed in the back face down in the mud and rain. Plus you get to see Micah’s cut up face in the epilogue before you kill him, so you know he’s had nice reminder of Arthur’s parting gift to him for all those years lmao.

[@bharrison9573]

This is what I had. And a deer was the animal I saw last. I didn't even know about this brutal ending 😳

[@JP-qg7bu]

Just got this ending tonight! Was my first playthrough. When I had the option to help John or go back I just couldn't resist trying to get revenge.

[@Killicon93]

On my second and now on my third playthrough I'm gonna go for the high honor money ending. I had high honor and helped John my first playthrough. But what irked me was just "what the hell was Micah doing up on that hill fighting Arthur?". And so on all my subsequent playthroughs I go for the money as I feel it makes way more sense for Micah and Dutch be there trying to get the money, it makes for a better distraction to help John having the Pinkerton's hear a lot of gunfire and a trail of corpses leading to Beaver's Hollow and getting the money for John, Abigail, Jack, Tilly, Charles and Sadie would've probably been enough money to start such a high new life far away that the events of RDR1 would've been averted.

[@Njordok]

I have never played on low honor, so having Arthur seeing the wolf instead was new to me. Makes a lot of sense now!

[@PremoSaysThings]

Glad I could help! Thanks for watching

[@candles6103]

I thought it was a coyote

[@Njordok]

@@candles6103 Damn, you are right! Guess I haven't really seen a lot of coyotes before lol. But it does make a lot of sense in the setting.

[@jojodaniel214]

I saw it and I had the high honor ending

[@sinusoidalny]

@@jojodaniel214 Wolf is low honor.

[@lizardman3861]

Arthur Morgan has a very special place in my heart. I will always love this game

[@hussainmehdi4378]

Bro my first playthrough was just like yours. But i was naive to think my arthur with low honor had better morals than everyone around the camp. Keeping this in mind, i helped john and when arthur got a bullet in the face, i thought i had lost to a great evil(i shouted at my tv) and the world of rdr2 is cruel. But after watching your video, i realise that the ending i got was cuz of my actions throughout the story.All those bad things my arthur did came back to him and now im seeing things differently and im gonna start my new 10th playthrough with this new perspective

[@Devin_Stromgren]

My first playthrough I did the opposite. I was high honor but went back for the money. I didn't realize it was an honor decision and thought I was getting the money for John.

[@PremoSaysThings]

I had sort of a similar thought process, I really didn’t realize I was playing the end of the story. On one hand it’s disappointing, on the other that is why the game is so good.

[@luccaprado1199]

The better ending is with Micah turning away and Arthur dies by his own desease staring at the sunrise, I always cry with that scene, this game storytelling is absolutely magnificent

[@clonejar]

Well written. After Arthur's death, I didn't go with 2nd playthrough up to this day. So it was just like remembering Arthur same as remembering a family member who died, I only have one memory of how I played his character.

[@dontpanic1992]

damn man gotta get tht 2nd play through in enjoy the side missions nd shi

[@noahaidankreis8816]

i feel the same way bro - i cant start a second playthrough either it wouldnt feel right. the game and story itself is way to captivating and immersive.. its like it happened once and wont ever be reproduced, the message and emotions are better than and movie i‘ve seen or game i‘ve played altough i only played it once.. wish i could go back in time with no knowledge on whats gonna happen and authentically experience the game like im back in october 2018..

[@danielgleb]

played once on my crappy xbox one, thinking of replaying on my good PC cause it looks so much better @@noahaidankreis8816

[@jonmabe]

What an astoundingly excellent video essay. Bravo. I have long since 100%’d the game, and scoured the entire map, but the bit about the poem showed me that there is still so much I had left uncovered. Like you, I played my first play through low honor, seeing it like another GTA. After the ending, it didn’t sit right with me, so I sought to play again while doing all I could to keep Arthur alive as long as possible. I took advantage of the glitch that lets you get to black water as Arthur and explored the map as him as I felt he should be the one to experience those moments. Come to find out, the devs must have thought of this as I noticed Arthur has unique dialogue options, and diary entries in those locations. This game changed my life, and I mourn the fact that I have finished it. This video perfectly highlights why. It’s amazing to watch others play the game for the first time and see them appreciate the beauty of this wonderfully tragic story. It’s hard to bring my self to play the game again for these reasons, but I look hopefully towards the future when another game might give me that feeling all over again.

[@PremoSaysThings]

What a wonderful comment. Really. Thank you for writing it. It’s interesting how I see so many people say they could never have done a low honor play through ever - but the ones who do end up being really impacted and immediately think about doing another play through of the game. I’ll have to check out the Blaxkwater glitch! Is that on pc? I loved reading this! I hope rdr3 is around the corner and they knock it out of the park. This game stays in a league of its own for me.

[@jonmabe]

@@PremoSaysThings Appreciate the reply! I originally played this game as a murder-hobo, killing any and every NPC I crossed paths with just because I could. I had the cool guns, the fast horses, and I was the untouchable main character. They were all just NPCs with no contribution other than to serve me in some way. There are so few games that impress any meaningful repercussions on the player that I had assumed this game would be no different. The life that the writers have painstakingly breathed into this game is unmatched. It's one thing to have a honor system, but it's a whole other to have dialogue interactions, cut scenes, and missing or further developed characters to back it up. When you help a guy out, and he ends up thanking you in another area much later in the game, you feel it. For me, one moment that sticks out is finding Downes' wife as a prostitute in Annesburg. There is no reason to have her there, or to continue her story other than to make you feel something. Further, her way of life sadly does make some sense as to what you might expect to have happened historically. It's been a while since I've played, so I don't know if the method to get to Blackwater as Arthur still exists or has been since patched, but I played on PS4 when I did it. Usually I've found games get patched on PC before consoles, so I wouldn't be surprised if you can still do it. I haven't opened the game since I took Arthur as far as possible in 2019 or so. That said, the fact that you can make a video all this time later, and I can watch it and still get flooded with all the feelings I felt playing it for the first time speaks magnitudes not only to the writing of the game, but also for your effort in composing a video essay in your own time about your own thoughts and feelings while experiencing the story yourself. So thank you for that and please do continue making quality content such as this.

[@justincopus3983]

Great video. I played through low honor the first time, because i didn't know what I was doing. Played through a second time with high honor, got 100% completion. The greatest game ever made. Greatest piece of western themed entertainment ever made.

[@BakedCranium]

100% agree!

[@ddalmation469]

This is one of the best if not the best video someone made of RDR. Dude, this had me broken all over again...

[@PremoSaysThings]

That’s huge praise thank you so much. Makes me super happy to hear. Atleast we can all go through sorrow together

[@Lxldipper]

I finished it two days ago! I actually decided to help John. And when I say my mouth dropped for a good 10 minutes.. holy moly

[@PremoSaysThings]

Same friend I was not ready for that at all. Thanks for watching, glad you had a good time with the game!

[@greenruges6946]

I reckon helping John is the best possible outcome, I really do like it

[@AFishBicycle]

The first time I played the game I did highest honor making every good decision no matter what in 3rd person. It was an amazing game and I loved it through and through. The second play through was in first person, and I made every bad decision no matter what… it was a profoundly different experience. Honesty it felt like two completely different games. I’ve beaten it a few times since then and done whatever I wanted since then, but I’ll never forget those two play throughs. They are forever etched in my memory as the two possible pillars of this games potential. If you haven’t done a full play through with low honor, give it a go. I recommend it highly. The dialogue is different, the missions are different, all the characters in the game treat you different… it’s a different game. I’m doing a play through currently on the PS5 and I’m doing everything and taking my time doing so. It’s been wonderful collecting specific animal pelts to make the gear I want. Upgrading each camp fully before moving on. Also, as per tradition… doing everything I can to mess with and hurt Micah the whole time. Thanks for the awesome content, it’s awesome so many people still connect over this game. It’s still a masterpiece. Cheers everyone 🤙

[@calebdickerson2003]

I can’t do anything except high honor just so Arthur dies watching the sunset instead of Micah killing him, I refuse to give that rat the satisfaction

[@PremoSaysThings]

Bro F Micah 💯💯💯

[@WhiteMonkey2004]

I usually do low af honor in chapter 2 and 3 then slowly earn my redemption but go back for mucah to fuck up his face

[@DrewCheech]

"I wasn't disappointed in the story, I was disappointed in my actions within the story" As a 45 year old man who's been playing video games for 4 decades now, I can an objectively state that RDR2 is the greatest narrative ever told within the medium of gaming. A man who wants to do good, but keeps doing wrong. A man who wants to believe in something, yet struggles. It's a story as old as Romans. It's not a "hero's journey" in the typical sense, but in a mosaic one. A broken man unqualified to do the right thing, gets to do so while in reflection of his own life coming to an end. He's afraid, yet aims for what's right despite that fear, despite the past that he feels defines who he is. Excellent video man!

[@Jacksonrodriguez]

Great video game essay man! You hurt my feelings when you shot the horse in the beginning LOL. I'm on my second play through and I ended with high honour again....but instead, I went to get the money to experience the other ending... On my first run, I did everything I could to make sure Arthur got healthy lol...like spending time in New Hanover or Big Valley to get dry air lol and eating healthy/taking medicine...but nah...our boah was dying...I was in denial! 10/10 game. Certainly my no.1 game

[@PremoSaysThings]

Hahaha I’m sorry about the horse, I had to confess my sins. Damn brother that is commitment!!! And very well thought out. It’s funny how you really can’t do anything about the TB, even avoid the encounter with the man. I have to say this is my favorite game I’ve ever played. Opened my eyes to the possibilities of story in games and hope we get a solid rdr3 and rockstar doesn’t just pay attention to gta 6

[@gamingwithluffy]

I'm so glad I was able to give Arthur a proper farewell.... I kept my honor high bcoz I got so much attached with Arthur I felt that I could change him through my actions... I kept my bar at highest and I didnt know the end I just thought that if i helped john, Arthur and John both will be able to get out of this mess... little that I know I was in tears when that mission ended....and after that I always kept John's Honor high too bcoz its what Arthur gave him... A chance to have better life.....

[@whatsthedirt]

You killed this dude. Great video

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thank you! Appreciate that quite a bit

[@chriscast10]

I played the whole game without lowering my honor. Never stole a train on my own. And I played by the rules. In the end, I went straight for the money. I lost my path.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Bro… born an angel. It isn’t clear if you go for the money that you can’t bring it back to John so… we will give the benefit of the doubt

[@haydenrhead7692]

Going back for the money is cooler anyway

[@Slam-]

I finally finished it this week, the story is so great. Love this game

[@PremoSaysThings]

Low honor or high?

[@Slam-]

@@PremoSaysThings low honour

[@BL00DYME55]

Out of 7 complete playthroughs, I've only ever forced myself to be bad in 1 of them, just to see all the low honor dialogue and cutscene. And gotta say it wasn't easy maintaining low honor the entire game. Especially after Arthur's diagnosis, everything in the game is constantly nudging you to improve your actions and help others to earn your redemption. Every stranger mission in Ch 6 rewards honor for just completing them. And that final debt collection mission from Strauss rewards a huge chunk of honor too. So I had to go out of my way to kill and rob random people to maintain low honor in Ch.6. I gotta say, that ending was tough to watch, but if anything made this whole thing worth it, it was that soundtrack when you choose to go back for the money instead of helping John. That was straight up badass, the way Arthur finally realized his time has come and faced the music like a warrior. Straight up cold, the way he went after Micah and Dutch. Felt cool af, even tho it clearly didn't end well for him.

[@YassinSalah-nj6xf]

That final low honor bell is awesome

[@PremoSaysThings]

Agreeed. That gave me chills the first time.

[@marcwhitlock5002]

"Dam us both" has gotta be the best f you before impending death and fits low honor Arthur so well

[@Cherrypopp3RxD]

2024 and to me this is still the best game experience you can play up to date

[@PremoSaysThings]

Absolutely agree

[@jeromedevine384]

oh man. this video. I just finished my first ever play through and played dishonourable at the start and when Arthur changed, my heart also changed and so I made good and honourable decisions…alas, not only was it not enough to make me more honourable on the scale, I also had no idea there were multiple endings. so fast forward to the peak, to that horrid moment of Arthur getting shot and I weeped. I still haven’t gotten over this days later. I’ve never cried in a video game nor ever been as emotionally attached. I was ruined. you’re a good man Arthur Morgan. what a masterpiece.

[@DrJD123]

Really great video bro, I finished RDR2 about a year ago and this just bought back all the emotions, time for another playthrough I think.

[@PremoSaysThings]

The highest compliment I can receive! Thank you so much.

[@enzo665]

I also recommend playing this while going through hard times. I kid you not, this game has so many lessons. It was great playing as I rebuilt myself after almost dying from a motorcycle accident. This game has powerful stuff, and I highly underestimated how impactful it is. Absolute masterpiece

[@candelarioguerrero658]

Man this was great!!! I also love hearing how how much this game changed someone perspective as it did mine.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thank you so much! It’s crazy, this video game was as good as they get!

[@digitalistea]

Wow what an excellent video! Your narration and editing skills are great. But damn I’m so glad that I did a high honour play through from the start without even knowing what that really entailed. Seeing that last clip of the coyote descending into a cave (symbolic for hell perhaps?) made me feel genuinely sick to my stomach But at the same time as horrible an ending for Arthur as this was, it is a brutal gut punch that at the end of the day he was just a man, no amount of “protagonist” status would protect him from that, he died the same way so many nameless npcs that you’d kill in a low honour play through do :’) and that’s pretty poetic, however soul crushing

[@kylerees3491]

My favourite way to play this game is definitely starting low honer and trying to change at the end when my Arthur was diagnosed with TB he saw the wolf then that's when I started to change I made sure I spoke to all the gang members, give money to charity, and then the final mission I choose to save John and this is what pushed me to the high honer end basically just neutral but when he died he saw the deer instead of the wolf which shows Arthur's redemption

[@Dr.Gainzzz]

I believe it's a Coyote not a wolf.

[@michaelorman1314]

Red Dead Redemption 2 is my number 1 game of all time. Second isn’t even close.

[@PremoSaysThings]

So true man so true

[@Paul-ik8fm]

It's about karma. It's really easy taking the easy option and having no regard for others but at comes at a cost. Arthur gets shot in the face just like Heidi. Dutch had no regard for her she was just a means of escape a distraction.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Great comment

[@godzillazfriction]

so Arthur as a whole should get shot in the face because he killed and killed lots of ppl...

[@themarlboromandalorian]

When Micah called Arthur crazy... That's kinda a trigger word for Dutch. Him walking away... Might have been all he felt he could do. Then later on the mountain top... When Micah talks more shit... Dutch couldn't just walk away anymore. Dutch wasn't ever a good man. He was quite a bad man. And he did have his principles, maligned as they were.

[@DrazenPerkovic-p8j]

My Arthur got stabbed to death by Micah

[@JackValeroMusic]

I love that even if you choose the better ending it will still be a different version based on your honour level and that’s one of the many reasons this game is so great. Not just the content, but the incredible story about morality. Thank you for this video, can seem silly to feel this way about a game but it’s good to know there’s other people out there who feel the same way.

[@Sean-kc4ob]

I have had serious have fun with the way I make Arthur conduct himself throughout the chapters. You craft your redemption arc with the honor system. I personally like to play Arthur as slightly more dishonorable, helping people usually out of pity, or for some sort of return forcibly or not, then eventually stop being a tool to folks near the last few chapters. I’ll still save jimmy brooks though

[@TomiTom1234]

What a nice story-telling you shared, thank you for that. It is really very impressive to know that this video game was an influence on your life to the better, pure awesomeness.

[@PremoSaysThings]

I appreciate the comment! Thank you

[@PremoSaysThings]

This is nuts. This is my first 10k view video besides a couple of shorts that were less than a minute long. Thank you guys for watching and thank you for the reception. This is clearly the way forward for my channel, thanks for watching.

[@1521Palm]

Yeah you did great, great work on this video. Keep it up and the subs will quickly build up I bet!

[@littlewicky1]

Great video! Pure quality! Watching now at 182k

[@PremoSaysThings]

@@littlewicky1 appreciate it! - 182 that is literally nutssss

[@littlewicky1]

@@PremoSaysThings congrats man. Based on the video you deserve it. Gotta watch your Jack and Daxter video now.

[@PremoSaysThings]

@@littlewicky1 thanks! It was tough to follow this up but we keep it moving and give it the best shot.

[@oofties6199]

I've never agreed with the message to a youtube video more. I am currently half way through my first play-through, however I knew the ending long before playing. I just thought it was another story game that sure might be pretty good, but i could never imagine the impact RDR2 and Arthyr Morgan could have on my life. I tried to tell myself to stop being so weird about it because it's just a video game but i truly couldn't get Red Dead out of my head, at all. I also knew the importance of the honour system to the plot long before playing and that was another thing that i thought wouldnt affect me. As soon as i started the game I fell in love with Arthur as a character and his story and I knew from that moment that i would do everything in my power to achieve the best possible outcome for this man. RDR2 is still the only thing i can think about and I concur to what you said about the game making me genuinely change aspects of my life for the sake of what's right and honorable. I owe alot to Read Dead and Arthur Morgan, and i'll never forget that.

[@doughboywhine]

the music that plays in the money ending is hard af tho

[@marioradre3287]

Now I'm going through it again and I always have to keep my high honor. Arthur Morgan is a good man who had a bad life.

[@syrsafox32]

Personally, I think that Arthur getting shot by Micah isn't really a "bad" ending. It's my preferred way to end Arthur's story, because going out with a bullet in him is how he wanted to go out, according to something said at one of the campfire talks. He still beat Micah, and John was safe.

[@vincentjohnson7519]

Wow. Amazing commentary and story. I'm a new RDR fan, just bought the game 1 week ago . Been playing for 3 days now and I so feel this video and dislogue, especially since my bounties are high and there's no real way to make money . This game also shed new light for me on the life not just as a cowboy but how hard it really was in the west in the old days and the " gangs" that formed then and why. It also shone new light on one of fav movies of all time, which was young guns and John Tunstall's and Brady feud .. I have so much to speak of after this video and my few days of playing this game but I yield. Just wanted to say thanks for the awesome video n content ..

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thanks for the cool comment. You’re in for a ride! Good luck out there cowboy

[@notthatkindofsam]

Tons of ways to make money. Those treasure maps can add up!

[@RandyLahey33]

Just hearing the epilogue song gives me chills

[@bunskey]

My first play through I can definitely say I cried… that last ride was emotional

[@Itrollalot]

0:40 Actually red dead redemption takes place in the same universe as grand theft. Auto, the 2 games take place in the future and in the past

[@PabloTheInternationalSuperSpy]

That's not confirmed, it's a theory that I personally believe in, but still not confirmed

[@Itrollalot]

@@PabloTheInternationalSuperSpy erm actually ☝️🤓

[@PremoSaysThings]

That’s epic

[@PremoSaysThings]

😂😂😂

[@PremoSaysThings]

Epic theory highkey

[@timbotalkin]

AMAZING VIDEO! You gave a perspective on this game

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thank you so much! What a compliment! Really appreciate it.

[@haydenhoyden]

i truly wish that the first time i played that game. i wasn’t spoiled the ending. and just arthur’s sickness in general.

[@Heisen_burger-dude]

Micah BELL! BELL, how did I miss this

[@ngsanfo7927]

Currently on my 4th play through in less than 2 years. I keep coming back to this game thinking I’ll do a low honor play through but knowing the story and ending, I just can’t due to feeling like Arthur’s true character is the honorable play through. Doing the bandit challenges, I’d go out of my way to help folk after completing

[@PremoSaysThings]

You don’t know the power of the dark side

[@debilman9065]

@@PremoSaysThings My low honor Arthur did many awful things yet still managed to scar Micah and scam himself into heaven by simply going on a long fishing session and the tossing every fish back into the lake

[@Ivan80054]

I am on 3rd playthrough and i simply can not play Arthur as a negative guy. Simply not possible for me.

[@timellis9293]

The part when Arthur asked Sadie to ride with him one more time gave me chills to the bone.

[@renoobed-owl7590]

Incredible video ❤ Your storytelling & editing is top notch 🎉

[@malcolmisk00l]

I sat there with my mouth agate for a good 2 minutes on the ending, not what I was expecting at all

[@PremoSaysThings]

its crazy

[@Tourettes-syndrome-gaming]

I love the low honor ending it’s perfect, because even though you were a bad person, you still did one last good thing. And you were shot, which I think is very climactic.

[@tfdidusayho]

The high honor is the perfect ending. Arthur says it himself he would like to die facing the sunset west overlooking the lands he had so much fun in. And he don't get donuted which is a bonus

[@Tourettes-syndrome-gaming]

@@tfdidusayho yeah but the point is that he doesn’t get to have what he wants

[@doughboywhine]

live by the gun die by the gun

[@tfdidusayho]

@@Tourettes-syndrome-gaming except he does its just a little bit of closure

[@Tourettes-syndrome-gaming]

@@tfdidusayho well I hate cupcakes and closure

[@mihailatanasov5394]

The thing is- i was obsessed with rdr2 so much when it came out in 2018 before i bought it i watched so many videos about it, legendary animals, secret weapons etc. I never really got to play the game until now, but doesnt matter how much wrong i did things, making it up just to see the rising sun in Arthur's last moments- shit that makes me cry even when writing it

[@Jalen_wilki]

Bruh GTA is just about murder and mayhem😂. It's nothing like the rd series. Way more emotion and feeling to the story in rd😂😂😂.

[@PremoSaysThings]

I feel that so much. Rdr2 is amazing

[@HoIdenHal]

On my second play through I had high honor but I went for the money and the scene when Arthur runs back to beaver hollow made me feel like such a badass. I also want to say that this is such a good video

[@Cuunke]

Playing the ruthless outlaw is fun and there are subtle changes to how the world reacts to you but when you get to those endings with low honor it makes you go “damn I deserve that”

[@PremoSaysThings]

Absolutely agree. Thanks for the comment

[@IcanhearClemFandango]

I did a play through based on the idea of reverse morality. I did everything as absolutely evil as possible. Always having posses coming after you gets old, but it's easier when you can just shoot the horses lol. The only limit was city limits. The game doesn't really work if you can't go to the gunsmith, or play poker, etc. The other hassle is arrows. Killing everyone you encounter without causing a fuss means going through a ton of arrows. The gang's reaction when you casually kill people during missions is pretty good.

[@gregoryko3210]

Always remember... You are an outlaw! You are not a good person because you do good things once in awhile... You have lived an outlaw life.... You might be good at times but truly you have done many bad things.. Arthur is a gunslinger outlaw.. Don't forget that..

[@troyboy666]

GREAT VIDEO. I very rarely comment on KZbin vids but your video was great. Everything you said in this vid is true, it's all fun and games until you realise it isn't. Our decisions in life can affect us and everyone around us so much.

[@No0bSlasher]

I played this game two years ago when I was in a tough spot mentally in my life. I was enjoying the game and it was the only thing that really gave me joy so when Arthur died it all came to an end. I got the high honor ending and went with John. I thought I gave up all my tears but I had one more for that moment.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thank you for sharing friend. Hope you success and a prosperous 2024. Glad you got the high honor ending

[@martyrobbinsismydad]

the ending of Micah shooting Arthur in the head and laughing over him was an absolute punch in the gut, seeing that one on a play through made me genuinely sick

[@hrvojenovak9024]

It's been a while since I've played the game. Never touched it after first playthrough. I just can't. However, I also feel it made me a better person and changed my life for the better. I was never a bad person and I would say I was raised well, but it made me rethink my purpose in this world. I started helping people, volunteering, adopted a dog, I donate blood regularly, I donate money to charity, I give my old clothes, electronics and furniture to people in need. All of that resulted in meeting new people and business opportunities. I went from not knowing where I'm headed in my life at 21 to owning a house and my dream car at 25. I still love giving back to people, making them happy, seeing them smile and being genuinely grateful for even the smallest things. Give and it will come back to you! Have an awesome 2024 everyone, you're the hero of your story. As one very emotional part of the game says: "Shine light into darkness."

[@rhughes004]

This is the greatest video game that I have ever played. I’ve played several full play throughs and will probably install and play it through many more times in the future. They did an amazing job with every aspect of the game. I felt personally connected with the characters (especially Arthur) and literally shed some tears on my first play through. Great video btw.

[@TaylorTheHater]

This was well made

[@PremoSaysThings]

Thank you very much!

[@HeisMertz_]

I made a comment on another RDR2 KZbinrs channel like 2 days ago and it was about this exact feeling after my first play through. I sat in my room, crying (I usually don’t get overly emotional) just thinking about how Arthur deserved so much more. Like you said, no piece of media has made me contemplate my own morality like RDR2 has.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Bro I ain’t gonna lie I was tearing up the whole ride and then when Dutch left I was cold and Micah shot me I was in full shock. Absolutely insane. Much appreciation for the wonderful comment. Arthur did deserve more, I think it shocked me so much because somewhere I was thinking “this is more like it would happen in reality”

[@HeisMertz_]

@@PremoSaysThings fr the low honor ending is the more realistic non glamorous ending. Keep making videos bro, I just subbed!

[@PremoSaysThings]

@@HeisMertz_ thank you so much!

[@farmtown4089]

fr you really need to replay this with high honor it has different cutsences

[@PremoSaysThings]

Doing it right now friend I’m excited. Thanks for watching

[@godzillazfriction]

he doesn't NEED to replay with High Honor and having to be succumbed into a certain playstyle that the Public Opinion chose to perceive towards Arthur Morgan in regards to High Honor...

[@danielreyna1048]

Am on my 5th playthru after 3 years of not playing rdr2. This time on my dream gaming PC. 🎉 graphics and sound are on another level never experienced before. I relate to your videos message, this game has made me see life differently thru my choices in game. Currently going thru a deep depression and rdr2 is helping me overcome my demos i have inside. This time around am aiming for 100% game completion. Glad i ran into your content . Keep it up

[@jonathanmedina3825]

So when are they making this a movie??

[@nelsonrivas4919]

Great video honestly!

[@PremoSaysThings]

ty ty ty

[@superc5845]

I love how rockstar punishes you for low honor by making Micah kill Arthur in every ending. They reward you for higher honor because it’s assumed that Arthur would’ve shot and killed Micah if Dutch didn’t stop him. Also Micah doesn’t kill Arthur

[@chrisedrev9519]

Your use of RDR2's music in this essay is impeccable.

[@PremoSaysThings]

Appreciate that quite a bit! Thanks

[@dietzness]

4:40 wait... Arthur gets tuberculosis?

[@PremoSaysThings]

Uhhh

[@vain.a]

no its just lumbago

[@finnhamilton7961]

Spoiler alert

[@Adam-vu5sy]

I think that final ride to the camp was the scene that had the largest impact for me. One moment of calm reflection where you really can feel what Arthur is feeling, you experience what he’s experiencing. It’s a powerful moment and it’s the one that I think about most.

[@regularstan6212]

Its hard to play with low honor

[@buckopsoutdoors8673]

You mean easy?

[@PremoSaysThings]

Indeed. Someone’s gotta do it

[@PremoSaysThings]

Truth

[@air_run]

You're an amazing KZbinr glad to see you here early

[@PremoSaysThings]

Legit pulled my heart strings. Thank you.

[@callduty2631]

Bro ima be honest you sound like the Minecraft trailer guy

[@yrdonp1131]

As someone doing his first play through, you really just showed me the outcome is no different than the other, and that low honor is the way to go, at least you will have nice things and more money, no matter what you die alone and with your choices. That should be the game message. Too many ppl making it deeper than it is.

[@PremoSaysThings]

That’s an interesting take! Thanks for the comment. So many ways to interpret it

[@MyName1992]

I loved John in the first RDR and when I found out we were playing as a different character in RDR2 I was a bit unsure. But I ended up loving Arthur even more. Along with Joel and Ellie from the last of us, I’ve never felt so attached to a protagonist

[@Alvarez887]

To me this is the true ending it is so like Micha to lose the fist fight to then shoot Arthur and say “I beat you” it’s a sad end but the life of an outlaw is sad

[@ajsalcove1762]

4:09 "The closer you get to figuring out what's going on, the further you get from escaping." That is LIFE advice right there, especially for people who grew up in bad homes and didn't get a good start (like most members of the gang). Your video is perfect. Love this 2:15 No matter what playthru I'm on I ALWAYS make Arthur suck out the venom. It's worth a horses death if I get to see Arthur's embarrassment.