Can Yoshi make this Challenge WITHOUT JUMPING?

[@JenSpinsSGP]

Vic: I won CFive: What did it cost you? Vic: I’m now a yoshi main

[@koelee]

15:35 cFive's reaction watching vyQ get it from both sides is priceless

[@Tuxkick]

I audibly laughed at his reaction. Funniest shit in the world.

[@on_ho]

Pause.

[@koelee]

@@on_ho okay hold on, I don't usually do replies, but this made me re-read my original comment and had me choking on my water 😭

[@elixer88]

Phrasing

[@TheShua]

Am I tripping or could they have just down-b'd on the left instead of shield breaking

[@aab1254]

Maybe down b goes through the platform? Edit: The more you know lol

[@manodosa]

@@aab1254 it goes through the platform only if you hold down

[@futurfry]

@@manodosa even the grounded version?

[@cjchu2597]

Don't take the shield break moment away from vyQ lol

[@Poochyvert]

It also goes through platforms if you're very close, even if you don't hold down so it wouldn't have worked

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

A suggestion for puzzles makers would be to focus more on cool tricks/puzzles for difficulty, instead of just _super_ tight movement inputs. It’d be less draining on the doods, and more interesting to watch. Just a thought.

[@SilverHawk0987]

I've been saying this on every video, super precise tricks aren't fun to play or watch.

[@d.s.alcoda]

Thats true but it's pretty tough to come up with. There's only so many movement options per character especially without jump

[@clayton_games]

I think the spot on the left they can't get need to be done with an egg-roll jump from the right. Not the tight jump Vyq is doing.

[@lunarkomet]

The thing is, designing a clever level is way harder than making a precise skill-check. This is true for game development in general

[@Bladieblah]

​@@clayton_games They have tried that multiple times and it's not even close to making it

[@IvanRG_]

A lot of times you guys could have done this: side-b forward and go backwards so you stay in place, mash b the fastest possible and press up-b before Yoshi ends up the animation of breaking the egg, Yoshi will do an up-b with the maximun high while being on the ground

[@XDDocXD]

ofc the yoshi pfp knows this

[@IvanRG_]

@@XDDocXD based

[@nightshade4125]

Funny thing, I found out about this tech literally right after I finished building this stage, and I was like: "Nah they probably don't know about this, I don't have to rebuild my entire stage" xD

[@IvanRG_]

@@nightshade4125 good stage, clean and well done. I really like it

[@nightshade4125]

@@IvanRG_ Thank you so much :D

[@nightshade4125]

I wanted to use more side b in this stage, but it was quite tough to make a section with a cool side b tech that you can't also get through with up b. Coupled that with my limited Yoshi knowledge and yeah... But anyways, great video. And a rare vyQ win on top of that :)

[@Scythra]

Pin the creator! :D It's funny to see VyQ hurting his thumb after mashing so much with shield break... xD Glad you put an easier trick at the end to save some minds. Very creative Yoshi Course, that forward air after tech is a nice addition!

[@8CanadianBacon9]

Hi Nightshade. Can I get your opinion on my Yoshi no-jump challenge? Difficult version ID: 76M23P37 It focuses more on side B, down B, and even neutral B. It also uses that up B out of side B trick. End on the green bouncy rubber.

[@8CanadianBacon9]

I’m mainly curious if you see any cheese. I need a 2nd opinion. And also if you think it’s fun or not.

[@nightshade4125]

@8CanadianBacon9 I played your course and I think it's quite fun. There are some cool tricks like the side b launches in here that were really fun to figure out. I do think that the stage is a little confusing, in the sense that I had trouble figuring out where the correct path and the next trick is. In the end, I sadly couldn't beat the stage, probably because I couldn't figure out some obscure Yoshi tech I never heard about. I do think though that there is some cheese in this stage. You can get to multiple different sections from the angel platform using some up b's. With that I reached the switch earlier than I think it was intended to. I would put some sort of border around the spawn area so that you have to go straight down from the angle platform.

[@8CanadianBacon9]

@@nightshade4125 Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate you trying it out. I'll have to find time to remake it with clearer objectives and use my resources more wisely (I'm out of stage space). I made it as I went along. Not sure when I'll to that, though. I'll put a video out later demonstrating some of the tech in case people get stuck. I discovered one with neutral B and wind on complete accident while making it and just had to add it to the final trick. When Yoshi gets launched by the wind out of side special, he'll suddenly lose momentum and slow down unless... he keeps using neutral special. If Yoshi uses neutral special, he will maintain that launch speed, and that includes B-reversing it. This speed lets Yoshi get through the wind on the left, too. For the cheese from the angel platform, I forgot to mention to play in stage builder and reset if hit by lava or die. I personally prefer letting the player experiment.

[@UnholyCamouflage]

vik saying "wowowow I get so High" and the High is timed on 4:20 cant be a coincidence.

[@Kass686]

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who noticed this 😂

[@Itamaxification]

Nice catch haha

[@8CanadianBacon9]

Yoshi no jump challenge Difficult version ID: 76M23P37 Easier version ID: 60F55N8N (Can use it for practice) Focuses on Yoshi’s side B, down B, and neutral B. I was discovering new tech as I made it and kept adding stuff, so it looks kind of jank. It’s challenging if you don’t know the tech. It’s still decently challenging if you do know the tech. Rules: 1. No Jumping 2. Land on the green bouncy rubber to finish 3. If you’re hit by lava (or die), reset. However, feel free to experiment before resetting, or die on purpose to practice the ending. 4. No using or utilizing P2

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

This comment needs more likes.

[@SilverHawk0987]

Can we stop doing super precise tricks, it's not fun to play or watch

[@redclawtheotter]

omg 15:54 C5's face when vyq gets it from the right on the first try lol

[@Yassinius]

3:43 In order to play the Yoshi, you need to BECOME the yoshi

[@mayor4797]

Yoshi Down B- jumps up Beefy Smash Doods- ah yes, shield break

[@daruddock]

Am I crazy for thinking they could just down-b instead of shield break?

[@StephaneKloubert]

I don't think so, the game probably consider it as a platform

[@ct2xperience749]

He might go through the platform. I heard that if the platform is too close to where he down-b it will automatically go through

[@Poochyvert]

@@ct2xperience749exactly, he goes through if it's too close or if you hold down

[@dungeontortoise2432]

@@ct2xperience749 yoshi main here. It’s true!

[@chasejohnson3626]

It will only go through the platform if you hold down

[@TheRatSquid]

So hyped that vyQ is a Yoshi main now.

[@D_YellowMadness]

It's kind of amazing how painful 8:20 looks & sounds. Also, this course strengthens my desire to a see a no-jump Jigglypuff course where you start by doing a shield break to get to the top & then have to work your way down to reach the goal.

[@BluCarnage]

That's an extremely fun idea. I hope it's actually possible

[@matthewc9806]

Lol yea it looks like yoshi fn died

[@cany0udance]

This course is incredible. Pleasant aesthetics and difficult but fair tech requirements. Good work, Nightshade.

[@Percy87]

This comment cuts off at an EXTREMELY unfortunate point😂

[@dynaheart]

​@@Percy87 wdym?

[@Jokermasterap-z3t]

Bro is so happy about a shield break 4:43

[@VapVapor]

Cfive playing an intense game of league and saying "send me back quick!" XD

[@ThomasSoria]

15:52 landed some serious mental damage lol

[@verbatim7508]

As someone who's been pretty disillusioned with Ultimate's status as a competitive game since Steve came out, I appreciate these videos a lot because they remind me just how much more entertainment value you can get out of Smash outside of pvp.

[@hankpeterschmidt8626]

As a Yoshi main, this is truly hilarious to watch. Sometimes one can up-b and get a float boost immediately after using a side-by, which helps quite a bit as far as I can see

[@cogahan]

16:14 You can actually pinpoint the second his heart rips in half

[@DiamondCentury]

Guys this jump course series has been fantastic. We need them for every character

[@nullhare]

This series is so fun! Always keeping things fresh on the channel. This is why y'all are the GOATS!! And props to the level creators!!

[@777ALLLUCK777]

This puzzle series is so good

[@josephglaubitz4651]

Love how they both go wow wow wow through the course 😂

[@LokiThePug]

15:53 Brother got the donkey kong pog

[@parahole]

I think air dodge staling might be the reason for the inconsistencies?

[@Fantilow]

6:19 my favorite moment, with vyq's reaction increasing every time, my type of humor

[@QueDawg111]

Holy crap the commitment. 1 hour That win is so deserved. Perseverance took the day! Good job

[@Yassinius]

I've just been binging these No-jumpCourse videos and now they drop a new one let's goooo

[@lastnamefirstname8655]

these courses are so fun and hard! i welcome all these very technical and difficult stages for bsd to attempt! very great content!

[@Melvonathan]

6:37 bro turned into yoshi

[@ItsSantaClauss]

I think most of the issue you guys had with the long horizontal jump is that you have to up-b, yes, but you can then hold forward after the up-b to go far horizontally. The egg direction happens in the few first frames, then after its all about direction for Yoshi. What tells me this is that all your eggs were landing at the top platform, while testing it, mines were downwards / landing on the bottom platform. Drop from the ledge, up-b-then-put-joystick-forward, airdodge. Anyway, welcome to the Yoshi mains, you'll see, we have a good time over here.

[@ebicBird]

the fact they both said "oh no" at the same part proves their brothers

[@Meebas]

15:27 the middle finger to the cam lmfao

[@kaloncpu57]

Wow, a new Yoshi main

[@chamros]

I love these puzzle level videos! Keep them coming!

[@Fantilow]

"shieldbreak ?" its getting iconic

[@6x6Majin]

I like how you both thought to use down+B on the first obstacle and even tried it again at the upper middle obstacle but NEITHER of you thought to use down+B on the platform on the left. Instead you chose shield break lmao

[@Nobro2005]

So idk if you guys knew about this or not but there's actually a secret tech where if you do grounded side B and mash up B right after the second bounce, you basically get aerial up B without a ledge or jumping. I tried using the tech on this course and was able to cheese a good amount of the tricks

[@Antisthanes724]

Can't wait for the Jigglypuff course that ACTUALLY has a shield break setup! I bet by the time it comes around, they'll be second-guessing themselves.

[@UnkemptHerald]

The fact that he showed him making it twice when he was trying to show it was a fluke one off was hilarious

[@fidel_soto]

15:52 laughing at C5's reaction for whole minutes ⚰️

[@bluestar3939]

I would like to see someone make a coop stage that is meant for 2 characters instead of 1. It could use things like pushing the other with a wind box, moving both characters with Bowser side B or Charizard up throw, having 1 character activate switches or bombs for the other...

[@Donovanth]

Was that a Steins;Gate reference? 13:34

[@lukasinmint3625]

I would love to see this series done with every character!!!!

[@GoodGuyNickPT]

Man, I'd love a duckhunt stage :D

[@Caseal]

I'm hoping the shield break for the left platform was just a bit. They both immediately used down b for the first obstacle and then again near the end, but somehow neither one tried it for the platform? XD

[@Fidumo]

6:45 I didn't know you were playing Fox! (the sound that vyQ made sounds like Fox dying kind of idk)

[@SeaOfPixels]

Props to VyQ for sticking with it.

[@corvetto]

I’m reminded by how good yoshi’s distance is in his recovery is by watching this

[@LuisHernandez-qk9cy]

5:14 Ahhhh 🫦

[@gurth-quake1627]

The shield break one is gonna be jigglypuff, obviously

[@barbarictearemedy]

Yesss keep doing puzzle stages 😌

[@ARGssszzz]

Nightshade defeating the king. And another shield break bait, good job 👍 Can we get some pkmn course ?

[@ValentiaAlm]

Surprised they forgot about the higher up B trick i’m pretty sure i learned that from smash review and instantly knew that’s what they needed to do for the bumper section

[@clayton_games]

Fo they need to egg-roll jump from the right to the left to make that jump they're both stuck on?

[@afgnnzw]

When you guys show each other your methods you should go back into the stage with your jumps enabled so you can more quickly get back to some part of the level when you’re demonstrating how you did it so you don’t just have to attempt the stage again.

[@corenswet]

I bit of functional-fixedness on your guys’ end haha. For the little lava spot (1:31) you can just simply roll past that. Characters will versatile movesets make it hard for the creators to crack down on other exploitations of the stage. Created a Pac-Man stage, and it was tedious trying to make tricks that only is possible ONE way; his vast kit makes it hard (I don’t even think I succeeded). Although your alternatives are trickier, they make better content 🤭

[@IIIISai]

cool stuff and yea pacman is him

[@Poochyvert]

You are forced to goes through platforms with down-b when you start close to them

[@corenswet]

@@Poochyvert wait you’re right; i could’ve swore i did that trick a few weeks ago when i attempted this stage. but that’s debunked!

[@ant4613]

These videos are so much fun!

[@jarroddobben]

I'm so glad vyq got his shieldbreak

[@berse22]

I really love these courses. Might be even better content than Smash Review :O

[@ashmyoshi3912]

3:44 turning into yoshi question mark

[@jimjamjul]

This one was harder than it looked

[@Blibetyblabla]

Idk where I remember it from but if you use lots of rolls in a short span of time the distance and frame data of rolls gets worse. Maybe it’s the same for airdodges, and why they could sometimes do it and other times couldn’t for minutes

[@TheJCK729]

congrats to vyQ on becoming a yoshi main!

[@angelapr19]

Looks like someone’s gonna have to main Yoshi

[@kavinbala8885]

i downloaded and tried the map before watching. for context: I play melee I got fed up with the smash ultimate buffer system and the dashing to a ledge thing in under 5 minutes. idk why I spent $60 + DLC on this game.

[@D_YellowMadness]

Yeah, I mostly play Rivals of Aether now & on the very rare occasions that I play Smash Ultimate again, I always wonder why the 5th game in a series made by such rich & experienced devs hiring such qualified people with such a high budget & so much time is so stiff & unintuitive to control in nearly every regard despite having such basic inputs at face value.

[@BiggestEnergy]

These challenges are crazy

[@elitecombine5373]

These guys are gonna get so precise that they will replace TAS with BSD (Beefy Smash Dudes).

[@Glockenspheal]

Big ledge: Down B! Small ledge: *Shield break* nvm, it doesn't work, the more you know

[@gagejoseph91]

Yoooo, shield break required, finally!!

[@CookieCa7]

Guess he has to main yoshi now

[@Zerixzero]

Bro, that "shield break" spot. WHY DID NEITHER OF YOU THINK TO JUST DOWN B?

[@vyq6014]

Because down b goes through the platform if it’s grounded. We did try it but it was just cut out

[@meta4knight]

They keep making yoshi noises

[@Elivoltek]

we need to see a ness course

[@williamP1307]

NIGHTSHADE LETS GOOO!!

[@DennisaurusRexx]

Usually cfive sounds like the clueless one, nice to see his brain working 😅

[@matthewmilad]

Time to main Yoshi.

[@mitsubishiki7606]

ITS NEVER A SHIELD BRAKE!

[@vyq6014]

It will be at some point!!!

[@raphaelgarcia590]

That mowwww was so cute

[@Warriorstamps]

Didn’t Prowder did this course with Every character if they passed or failed?

[@TimoThehh]

Id like to see someone make a bayonetta course because itvwould be very hard

[@Noft117]

I just figured out how to cheese this level by skipping the bumper section using eggroll

[@Aizaia5]

These are my favorite videos

[@Super64Legend]

On a side note: I named my Yoshi in Paper Mario Ttyd: "Lil Yosh"

[@Poochyvert]

In french, in ttyd, the Yoshi is called PtiYoshi which would besically translate to LilYoshi (meaning Little Yoshi) so I always call him PtiYoshi

[@alexxs5632]

I just realized C5 looks like John Cena

[@noahwilliams6218]

These are always so interesting

[@Fantilow]

something else I've been wondering : you play on the same setup, right ? So this means you approximately know what time did the other do ?

[@vyq6014]

Not really because we do different stuff while the other one records most of the time..

[@chuckydee2951]

New challenge let's go!

[@dubspot3952]

i love these. its like Portal x Smash. nice job Vic! You guys should try b-sticking btw, the extra drift and ez b-reverse could be worth it.

[@robraf12]

It‘s never a shield break setup😂

[@ianmoretti4870]

I love your videos!

[@s0enix]

how do they know when the other ones done? Wouldn't they know who won by then?

[@Fantilow]

this makes me think was "Slice" the yoshi player or "JoeCreak" doods as well or just subscribers/ fellow smash players ? I always wondered if you more than 2 at the beggining or no

[@vyq6014]

Yes slice was part of the OG beefy smash doods. JoeCreak was just a homie we did a combo video with.

[@Fantilow]

@@vyq6014 alright, thanks for your accurate answers to my pointless questions ;)

[@jaysefgames1155]

Why are they breaking their shields when they could just down b again

[@temmie5764]

Tell us when you’ll do the discord courses instead of making us wait 😔

[@ianmoretti4870]

Smash Ultimate is my favorite game!

[@ChiefChar]

How do you keep the Yoshi percentage hidden for recordings?

[@Poochyvert]

Reading these comments, I realize that most people don't understand how Yoshi's down-b works in ultimate, the fact that it forces you to go through platforms when very close to them like on the platform on the left Btw, you can side-b, cancel it immediately and up-b out of it to gain good height anywhere

[@mous3kteer]

If we believe @oskaroberg3481's reply to @TheShua's (currently) top comment where they said they downloaded the course themself and tried it, the left side platform is low enough that a down-b will actually work to get onto it

[@Calvination15]

lol it’s really annoying to see so many people be so wrong and confident about it, I appreciate you being smart

[@susejtsirhc4202]

I knew bowser worked that way, but not yoshi. Knowing about bowser was enough for my to consider that yoshi worked that way too.