Beethoven Symphony No 5 C minor John Eliot Gardiner Orchestre Revolutionnaire et Romantique 2016

[@nickmaestro]

I’ve played the 5th countless times on violin, viola and bass. I’ve listened to so many recordings. Berlin, Concertgebouw, Chicago, Vienna, etc. This is by far the best I’ve heard. Period instruments and tuning, and perfectly executed tempos.

[@chrisknowles7889]

How have I just discovered this glorious version that makes modern orchestral versions sound like wading through a turgid swamp?

[@jaysparc]

I was looking for a Beethoven 5 recording this morning. Listened to Bernstein with Vienna, just wasn't cutting it. I'm tired of romantic interpretations of Classical era music. I love period instruments and stumbled on this recording. I was taken aback almost from the start. Hearing those natural horns blast, then actual clear sounding strings, finally at a Beethovenesque tempo. I'm blown away by this. The freedom in the sound, the non-romanticization. A stunning recording.

[@DingleDongle-zi7wx]

There are two interpretations of this symphony I hold above all others: this one, and Kleiber’s 1995 recording. It does sound a bit more Romantic than Gardiner’s performance, but in a manner that heightens its grandeur in my opinion. Still, I continually return to this video whenever I wish to hear the pure ferocity Gardiner expresses in the first movement. I think it falls short in the others, though.

[@jduff59]

Sounds just like it did back in 1808, when I was still a handsome young lad. We were all shocked to see 3 trombones - Oh, the scenes!

[@carlosescalante1080]

Only early 1800s kids will understand

[@carlrosa1130]

This is how Beethoven demanded his 5th symphony be performed - 108 beats per minute. Even when he was alive, he was furious that other conductors/musicians were performing it too slow. There is an energy to it that I adore.

[@euhdink4501]

Take a look at youtube 'Authenticsound' and learn.

[@carlrosa1130]

@@euhdink4501 I've already seen it. What's your point? What do I have to learn? That Beethoven's comments on the score of 108 beats per minute was a forgery? What am I supposed to learn by watching it a second time?

[@searchmeinyoutube]

I think Beethoven wrote 108 to Half Note, and not Fourth Note. So, it's not technically 108 "BPM", but never mind.

[@carlrosa1130]

@@searchmeinyoutube First and foremost, thank you for the comment. What Beethoven actually wrote was - "Allegro Con Brio, Metronome Mark 108" and although many musicians find it hard to believe (and perform well), Benjamin Zander studied the 5th/6th exhaustively before returning to Boston. According to Zander - "Beethoven purposely meant 108 bpm because the speed of it was an attack on complacency." Thanks again for the comment, Ram.

[@bobd5119]

Thanks for your comment. Even before I read it, I decided the tempo was too fast. If that is what Beethoven wanted, he disagreed with me, and I am right.

[@FugieGamers]

I've heard so many different interpretations and this is easily the best, it's like hearing the symphony for the first time again.

[@katydid2k]

For me as well!!

[@thescientific7284]

Yes

[@xxsaruman82xx87]

The best? Have you heard Markevitch?

[@AntonMoiseyenko]

Same feeling! Such a refreshing performance!

[@randywoolf]

@@AntonMoiseyenko yes yes yes. It reminds me of the moment I started to like classical music...listening to LvB's Op. 59.

[@soooti6993]

What I like about this performance is that it’s historically accurate. Some play the baroque violin or the baroque cello and everyone is using gut strings which create this crystal clear natural kind of sound. The clarinets, trumpets, horns and oboes are like the ones from the late 1700s. Also the interpretation is more like a late baroque or classical one and not a romantic one… for me the tempo is perfect, the phrases are not monotonous and filled with too much vibrato, but very vivid and filled with emotions. I am so happy that this great interpretation exists! I will only listen to this recording from now on…

[@marconias]

I sure would love to have this performance/recording on CD. Any help?

[@soooti6993]

I found it on Spotify. But I don’t know if the CD is available…

[@horstimberger8422]

Having heard and grown up in the Germanic tradition of the symphony, with much slower tempi and often with added players, it's refreshing and instructive to hear such a performance as this. Extremely well played and directed. A convincing interpretation

[@MartinMerayoUCDM]

And we could add that this version sound even more powerfull than the ones with added players. And small string section.

[@h-zhao]

The greatest interpretation of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony of the twenty-first century! Actually, of all time!

[@alhassant9204]

108bpm... how Beethoven intended it to be played. Fantastic!

[@itsrobertocataldi]

Allegro con brio 00:01 Andante con moto 06:50 Allegro - Scherzo 15:30 Allegro 22:49

[@manrom2101]

Someone pin this

[@marpsr]

Honestly, after hearing Beethoven performed like this, like he intended, it’s almost impossible to listen to other recordings and take them seriously.

[@antonioschiavi6870]

Per me invece ha perso ogni significato ideale ed è diventata superficiale e frivola.

[@fermcueto]

YEEEEAHHHH NON VIBRATO, EXCELLENT PHRASING, BEETHOVEN TEMPI!!!

[@oliverkohnremove3140]

Beautiful made my eyes water

[@oliverkohnremove3140]

@@mishaisraelyanremove9125 john stones at 6:43

[@alfredbureauremove3742]

mine too

[@GTA.Sven.Andreas]

this is by far the most powerful version I have ever heard...great!

[@Lee_music249]

Wish I could agree. Have you heard this one by thielemann? kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5OcYqeFn8SdlcU

[@jarodvmusic]

The best Beethoven 5th I have ever heard. Gardiner once again gives a piece a new light with a fresh and lively quality to it.

[@thepolyglotfarmer6085]

Best performance ever

[@musicshin2]

best recording...deserves more view!...2023

[@capezyo]

The speed of the string playing on the 3rd. mov. fugue is amazing

[@brianwilliams9235]

Under such speed, using periodic instruments, the sound has a crystal core, with muddy texture, and the music speak itself -- superb players orchestrated under the great barton of J. E. Gardiner! I used to addict to HvK's cycle for Beethoven symphonies, then gradually get into Gardiner's and dumped HvK.

[@katydid2k]

Actually, physically, literally electrifying! I am blown away--spoiled for life after hearing this, period. I never heard the 5th before hearing *this* 5th. Yes indeed: play it loud!

[@brunobaraldoo]

Breathtaking! Thanks god for MUSIC

[@jameswang4802]

He understands Beethoven !

[@amusiq]

Sublime.... I will never watch another interpretation.

[@user-lj7md8sv7d]

The performance is fire, blaze! Sir Eliot Gardiner is phenomenal conductor!!! The musicians are superb!

[@spg5765]

Cette interprétation aiguise la 5ème symphonie comme un couteau, quel tranchant ! Magnifique.

[@Almond_Boy]

1st Movement Exposition 00:00 Development 2:35 Recapitulation 3:50 Coda 5:18

[@xaixanac]

How refreshingly revolutionary, Beethoven resurrected: SUPERB

[@thomasdinan9667]

NOW this piece makes sense to me!

[@fistlaw2831]

That was my EXACT thoughts hearing this rendition. Now it makes sense!

[@sstuddert]

5:11 The transition from the end of the recapitulation to the beginning of the coda, during the first movement, is the greatest moment of all time. It's as though Beethoven is saying "this is the end of the classical era."

[@tj-co9go]

Yeah. But already his 3rd symphony felt like the end of it with it two first abrupt chords and the following music

[@sstuddert]

@@tj-co9go Forget about the two abrupt chords at the beginning, what about those wild dissonances in the development section of the same movement? Holy Mother of God, Beethoven has gone AWOL.

[@tj-co9go]

@@sstuddert you are correct. The syncopated, loud rhythms

[@beatriceuhlmann4917]

Die Beste 5.die ich je gehört habe!!!

[@sweetjesus5626]

That bass cue at 19:57, do your thing

[@akzapelcastre2590]

After listening to dozens of versions of the Beethoven´s cycle, some exalted and others not so much, enlist Sir John Eliot Gardiner and his Orchestre Revolutionnaire et Romantique, daring, lively, cheerful, uplifting, natural and brave. This is the definitive cycle.

[@cziffra-eg9st]

for me, its either Furtwangler or Kleiber. This one is also impressive though

[@saadalsafi8872]

I think you forgetted about karajan and ferenc friscay

[@xxsaruman82xx87]

Not even close

[@colinmurphy2214]

Best interpretation

[@colinmurphy2214]

Vaughan Hamilton perfect

[@Wingthordin]

And what is your favorite interpretation?

[@Sploooks]

Kinda love how fast he does everything.

[@vladcassidy8313]

My favourite rendition. 🎶

[@jh7100]

I’m am listening to this emotional rendition and this is the first time I’ve been able to weep and feel what I’ve bottled up inside me since the start of the corona virus pandemic. And when the last movement was played, it filled me with hope! Thank you. This performance is truly a gift. Thank you.

[@tomamanojlovic6630]

A new era of musical interpretation is being initiated here!

[@anthropocentrus]

I’m ashamed…thinking that I had heard the 5th symphony before….well I can NOW say I did…simply revolutionnaire !

[@rbaxter286]

The Ian Hislop documentary that goes with this is HUGELY informative and entertaining ..., especially the tie in with Beethoven's music and the French Revolution themes. Rarely found a pair of videos that bookended each other better, and NEVER have seen that quality in US documentaries. That relationship shows WHY the brisk tempo and energy is ABSOLUTELY necessary!

[@henkbroer2562]

Wat een geweldige vertolking. Zoveel spanning en drama. Wat een geweldige interpretatie. Een absolute belevenis voor musicus en dirigent. Met verbazing gekeken en geluisterd. Verbazingwekkende uitvoering. Dit moet toch een feest zijn om te vertolken!

[@henkbroer2562]

Dank voor de voor uw reactie voor de opmerking die ik maakte n.a.v symfonie 5 van Beethoven, uitgevoerd onder leiding van J.E.Gardiner! Thanks!

[@PanzerDave]

I have quite a few versions of this symphony, including several on slate 78s! This is one of my two favorites. I particularly like the use of period instruments. The other one I like at as much, and in some ways more, is the one by the Berlin Philharmonic conduced by Wilhelm Furtwangler in Berlin in 1943, Thank you so much for posting this!

[@georgeluft7881]

I just love the use of early 19th-century instruments.

[@antoniomolinagarcia]

For sure, the best Beethoven I've heard.

[@CamiloArnaldo]

The greatest composer

[@jeremylandig2069]

This orchestra is absolutely stellar in a live performance too. So glad they came to Chicago in 2020 just before everything shut down!!!

[@vsevsad9376]

I might be going to London for these concerts

[@jprtoledo]

The best version!

[@kouroushsadeghzadeh1172]

Majestic, marvelous, superb! The most powerful and the best performance of Beethoven's 5th I have ever listened. Right tempo: 108 beats per minute. Bravo Beethoven! Bravo maestro John Eliot Gardiner! Bravo Orchestre Revolutionnaire et Romantique

[@katydid2k]

Yes!!

[@bgrant64]

I do so love how this comes out of the delicate ending of the Scherzo and launches into the full blazing fire of the Allegro! No pause between movements, it simply over whelms you. To me it wants me to rise from my seat! Gives me goosebumps and a lump in my throat!!

[@rbaxter286]

Rise up, like the veteran of the French Revolutionary Army did in a Paris performance.

[@danhazen2195]

This is exciting and heart moving. The original way of playing this masterpiece is enthralling.

[@kenkappler9352]

Fantastic performance!!!! Bravo!!!! I wish the quality of the recording was what the performance deserved.

[@AntonMoiseyenko]

This is one of the best performances I’ve ever heard! So energetic and logic! The orchestra sounds incredible! I’m in tears, bravi tutti!

[@braulioflores8539]

Very good presenteischon. G

[@dielotosblume1205]

One of the best interpretations I've ever heard

[@Muzikay]

Simply electrifying.

[@jimmerritt6340]

Bravo bravo as loud as I can!

[@DD-jj3vq]

Best, most intense performance ever. You so rarely hear it played with such unrelenting power.

[@sorenthomas4776]

Amazing performance. Made me laugh and cry. And put me in a place of musical appreciation I have not been in decades. Thank you!

[@rafaojrzynski7423]

Un'esecuzione MAGISTRALE. Punto. Nient'altro da aggiungere. Lunga vita a J.E. Gardiner!

[@yhe2501]

Wow, this is THE Beethoven. I visited here from HJ Lim.

[@user-ep6fp4qm7i]

Look Look! Sir Beethoven Is now happy !!!!

[@armaanchadhafilms]

Great Performance! Finale starts at 22:49

[@rogerhubley5192]

Marvellous performance. I have been listening to this symphony for 60 years now and it is one of the best. I need to listen to it again - once I grab another beer.

[@Eugene_naropojiev]

The best interpretation I have ever heard and ever seen! Thank you for joy you shared!

[@Mxphc330]

Somehow, I love this version the most among all, even better than Kleiber's.

[@hifibrony]

Electrifying! Magnificently played and recorded!

[@krispiper3104]

On instruments and tempos of the period. Ahhhh. So sweet!!! Newer is not always better.

[@buskman3286]

For me this performance/orchestra captures the excitement inherent in the symphony. It may be due to the clarity of non-vibrato violins and the slightly raucous nature of the natural horns but it is by far the best, most exciting performance of the 5th I have ever heard.

[@michaels7889]

Pity about the upload sound track but ... wow! And that contrabass section ...! Like the 3rd symphony recording currently on KZbin intellect, scholarship and enthusiasm lay the music bare. And Sir John's gestures leave no doubt whatsoever about his intentions.

[@peterbockholm3176]

108 bpm as Beethoven composed it, i've been told that there is a version where the conductor is down to 74. This orchestra also use many instruments from the period, the horns for example. The violins have strings of the same type used at the time.

[@katydid2k]

I am spoiled for life after hearing this one - omg.

[@Schleiermacher1000]

Original instruments are simply wonderful, whether in Bach or Beethoven

[@ripjackson65]

Oh my heavens - how amazing!!!!

[@pizzademuzzarella4390]

Wooooow qué brutalll sir Gardiner. Gratamente sorprendido me encuentro, me encanta como transmite todo ese dramatismo y fuerza.

[@jabezvanwyk6485]

Wow!! Absolutely refreshing! Great performance Sir Gardiner

[@MCYUTELAT]

Woah! Best Beethoven I ever watched. John Eliot is the man. Beethoven's never been so alive and angry! Bravo!

[@francoismagne5863]

Mesmerizing. Finally the real Beethoven.

[@kermitefrog64]

The Conductor John Eliot Gardiner also has a video on the 5th Symphony that gives a complete different interpretation of Beethoven's Symphony. Many of the passages are reflective of his support for the French Revolution as he weaves various musical interludes from well known songs of the Revolution. The notes that Beethoven used as a means to gather his thoughts and improvising even expressing in his notes the three main principles of the Revolution; 1. Liberty : Liberty from oppression which was one of three main principles of French Revolution. 2. Equality : Political, social and economic equality. 3. Fraternity : Brotherhood among people.

[@michaelcherry8952]

Beethoven and John Elliot Gardiner to most modern conductors of the Fifth Symphony: "What part of ALLEGRO do you not understand?"

[@oliviu-dorianconstantinesc288]

The part where it's actually Prestissimo. Beethoven gives "Allegro con Brio" for the first part, but the metronome mark is in Prestissimo range (crochet 216).

[@dukeofcurls3183]

@@oliviu-dorianconstantinesc288 the whole idea of certain tempo markings having a set range of metronome markings is complete nonsense, it depends on the piece, and I think 108 (yes it's 108, not 216, because the movement is supposed to be felt in one beat to the bar rather than two) suits an Allegro con brio well in this context, though I would personally take it a little bit slower

[@alexanderdelacruz9249]

Wow , this one sounds so different...... so fresh , dynamic 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@c.a.g.3130]

Delightful, like rockets going off! The only interpretation of the 5th that is distinct from all others. Ludwig would've LOVED it! (Also, the ONLY performance that actually honors Beethoven's metronome marking of 108 to the bar, and yet never seems rushed, just vivacious: talk about 'con brio!'.)

[@alainlechardoy4921]

Magnifique, grandiose !

[@mrJohnDesiderio]

Energy is superb. Gardener is wonderful

[@matthewschatkowski4887]

BRAVO! Absolutely AMAZING!

[@susanl2502]

This is the version Prof. Robert Greenberg selected for his audio course on How to Listen to and Understand Great Music. Impossible to listen to another after this.

[@adelasussman3838]

Wonderful interpretation!! I've listened more than once during this terrible COVID-19 time!!

[@philipmcniel4908]

As a piano teacher, I'm working on a similar type of course on more of a children's level. I'd like a second opinion on this: What do you think about the merits of including this version (or this higher-quality posting of it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4mbgaCMg75kmtk&ab_channel=Element18) vs. the version that was recorded by the Hanover Band here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKCtgIVogsydnLM

[@pedromoyaguzman7517]

Love the energy of this interpretation 😍

[@jeffbalfoort3829]

Never heard it like this before. Incredible. Talk about shock and awe! what power!

[@robynsalain]

Beethoven revisité,haute admiration,hors normes

[@buskman3286]

The best performance of the 5th I have ever heard!

[@amarildonascimento_trompetista]

Such a great energy! Love this interpretation!

[@fifty9forty3]

Magnificent performance, Masterfully done!

[@Xelvonar]

The tempo is fast, but I trust Mr. Gardiner's research that this is close to the tempo that Beethoven likely intended. Also, the period instruments, with their lesser resonance, help with the faster tempo. More modern instruments might sound muddy at this tempo.

[@Lee_music249]

Yea it's a bit fast for me. I think it would have been more effective and convincing if he slowed up just a tad around the tension points of the first mvt. and allowed the music to breathe just that bit more. I honestly don't think the tempo works through some of these passages of the 2nd mvt. as I'm still listening while typing this. Tempo isn't a law, and really shouldn't be scrutinized so heavily in my book. But you can clearly hear where it works and where it doesn't.

[@rexsojo]

Opening tempo as written by Beethoven is 108. So yes fast. I believe this is a good interpretation as well as the fermata in the first five bars which drives me crazy when held too long or not long enough. We all have our own interpretational preferences which makes it all very interesting. Thank god for recordings so we can play our favorites over and over; and be challenged by others. This is one of my favorite interpretations.

[@Lee_music249]

@@rexsojo don't wanna argue. Perhaps its not solely the tempo. The violins were struggling to keep up with each other, and was not together in a lot of those fast passages. But it could be they were just not playing as well in this recording, or tired, or what have you. But it comes across as very labored and forced. It could have been a lot better. I think he should do another recording, and consider some refinements on his approach, and I mean that respectively. We can always do better.

[@user-ep6fp4qm7i]

Perfect playing.and well put together 😮

[@jamessalepe]

¡Genial! ¡Magnífico! Cada tiempo volviendo a la Quinta de Ludwig y siempre es espectacular escucharla.

[@nelsondias8346]

Para mim é uma das mais extraordinárias interpretações da 5ª. sinfonia. Imagino que Beethoven a escreveu para ser tocada desta forma. É um momento de emoção e que nos leva quase ao delírio. Grande orquestra, grande Sir Eliot Gardiner.

[@gabep6848]

This is my go to version !! I am so sick of hearing Beethoven at a slow tempo.

[@danskwino]

This version, at it’s 108 tempo, is like contemporary Rock Music, in that it makes me want to trash a violin after the performance and shout “Yeah!” to the high heavens!!!

[@alainrobynsds5735]

grandeur et gloire cet orchestre est survolté,haute admiration, la plus belle 5ème jamais entendue avec un grand bravo aux ingénieurs de la prise du son

[@antoinekaelin]

alain robynsds c’est bien vrai ça Alain

[@gautierbillante6152]

Enfin quelqun qui y comprends quelque chose à la musique ! Les jeunes de nos jours de savent pas apprécier la bonne musique.

[@antoinekaelin]

gautierbe gautierbe Vous avez raison Gautier. Notre ami Alain sait s’y prendre en therme de bonne musique ! Vive Beethoven !

[@gautierbillante6152]

@@antoinekaelin Nous sommes décidément tous sur la même longueur d'onde mon cher Antoine ! L'œuvre et la volupté de Beethoven sont incomparables !

[@antoinekaelin]

gautierbe gautierbe c’est ce que me disait Yvonne l’autre jour! Haha quelle garce celle la

[@joenathan4414]

Magnificent!

[@davetuttle9701]

Excellent 👍

[@MikeJones__Who]

I know there is great debate on tempo for Beethoven's compositions...but just reading on the personality of the man I truly believe this is how he envisioned this song. Very powerful, forceful constantly in your face in a way. Just pulling you out of your comfort zone and throwing you around. Such a beautiful performance!!

[@vsevsad9376]

There's a documentary to go with this performance where Gardiner explains the tempo (not his first one,btw) : kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2rMfnaOeMeCbcU The sound is awful. I used to have a normal version on my channel, but it was put down by KZbin

[@tancreddehauteville764]

Yeah, Beethoven was the rock star of his day and this proves it.

[@RB-fp5tx]

Unbelievable! Great!