Before Turning On Your Shopsmith Lathe, Watch This!

[@TheDoItYourselfWorld]

I just got my dream tool yesterday - the Shopsmith. I traded a small live edge slab I sawed out for this tool. Mine needs some love and care and some other accessories but in my small shop this is a space saver. Your video is the first one I found when looking online. Happy I watched too. Thanks.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Congratulations and welcome to the Shopsmith family! Which model did you get? If it is rusty, Evaporust is your friend. Scott

[@TheDoItYourselfWorld]

@@MyGrowthRings Thank you. It is exciting! From a serial number lookup I got one from the 1970s. I am uploading a video on it now but my internet is SLOW!! I will be watching your videos on this tool to learn from you.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@TheDoItYourselfWorld It’s a cool tool, for sure. That era had some pretty poor guards, so hopefully a previous owner took the time to upgrade it over the years. Let me know if I can be of any help.

[@TheDoItYourselfWorld]

@@MyGrowthRings Thank you. I will likely be asking questions in the future. I think I have the 10e after looking at images online. I am missing the table saw. Hope I can find one. And the deck for sanding and drilling. Those will make this an awesome tool for me. Couple cups of coffee later and I found the model right on the label. lol

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@TheDoItYourselfWorld Ah! That one’s a classic. Where are you located?

[@francescozani9488]

0:54 it is more an Italian thing that spread across Europe through the years. It is about how this country is. We used to have three quarters of the population crammed up in teeny tiny houses up in valleys. It was common to see woodshops as small as an American garage. The problem was not to stowe away a lathe to make room for the car. The problem was where to put all the other flatbed machines. And don't worry, even on a combined EU style machine there are countless ways to get seriously injured. 😅

[@stevehendrick8688]

I have been a Shopsmith 500 owner since the mid 1980’s. Your videos continue to teach things I never knew about my machine. I would thoroughly enjoy having a new toolbox for use with my SS. Thanks for the videos and education!

[@andymilligan8485]

I've been a Shopsmith owner/ user since 1981 and I still learn a little something from you at every video. Keep it up.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Glad to hear it. If you’ll keep watching I’ll keep posting. Scott

[@tpulles4188]

I picked up a used Shopsmith 8 years ago and its been in storage till this year ....... I finally built a shop....... you videos are awesome, I am happy that you are doing lathe videos hopefully you quickly show a 4 jaw chuck and how to properly set it up

[@MyGrowthRings]

I'm not sure how far I intend to go down the turning path, but I do have a couple chucks so there's a chance. There's just so much turning content on KZbin that it feels a little redundant. Scott

[@philxcskier]

Your videos are really awesome! I just got gifted a mark V from the mid 80’s with a bandsaw attachment. It’s great to have the nuances debunked and the basics of the tool gone over. I can’t wait to get it shined up and working.

[@MyGrowthRings]

That's great. Welcome to the Shopsmith family! Scott

[@caseysliger6220]

Just got my first shopsmith, a 10e, primarily for turning. Coming from a rickety old Harbor Freight model, I was already familiar with having to check my alignment more than I'd like and was pleasantly surprised by how close it already was. Really appreciate your videos helping me get up to speed on maintenance and ownership, especially the one about waxing.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Welcome to the Shopsmith family! The 10E is a cool old tool and I’m sure you are going to have a lot of fun with it. I need to rebuild mine one of these days. Who knows, there might even be a video or two in it!

[@fragorder]

I just got a Mark V, so I found my way to your video... there are a crap ton of Jackwagons telling people the wrong things. Great presentation, I've never done this and I'm feeling a little more confident! I will like and subscribe.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Glad you found your way here and welcome to the Shopsmith family! Scott

[@lancefarmer8096]

Best explanation of the why you need to check your set up I have heard .I always learn something.,from you. Keep them coming ,great job.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thanks, Lance. I always appreciate you checking in. Scott

[@johnhuggins5021]

I'm really loving the amount of time you're spending on each video on not only using the Shopsmith ancillary equipment but how to maintain them. Thank you very much. I hope in the near future you will do several videos on the 12" thickness planer, too. I really need to replace my planer's cutting blades but the written instructions are confusing at best to me. I sure would like to see you demonstrate a detailed video on these steps - both removing and installing a new set of cutting blades.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thanks for your feedback and support. I have a buddy who owns a Pro Planer that I'm sure he would let me play with. I'll look into it. Scott

[@johnhuggins5021]

Thanks Scott, I'll be watching everyday for those videos on the thickness planer. Do you need/want a Shopsmith Scroll Saw? I thought I would use it all the time but over the years it has sat, virtually unused and covered because I own a dedicated 30-in throat Excalibur brand scroll saw originally manufactured by General International. It's so quiet that I don't need to wear hearing protection and I can finally play music in my woodshop. LOL. I know I probably won't be able to sell the Shopsmith Scroll Saw for what I paid for it, but I really hate it taking up space in my shop not being used. To look at it you would think I never used it. I guess some day if my Excalibur dies.......but......knock on wood, that won't happen for a looooong time.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@johnhuggins5021 I have a SS mounted scrollsaw, but like you, it rarely gets used because we purchased a DeWalt, which was based on the Excalibur patents. But thanks for thinking of me.

[@castle5711]

33 year SS Mk 5 500 owner, and I never knew about the way tube set screws until tonight (yes, I'm one of the "got a table saw project right know" guys)! I have the new power head (and it's a beast). The hydraulic lifter makes life easier, for sure. However, I've found that using the lathe with the lifter connected works against the way tube set screws and can cause the whole works to move toward the locking latch end when setting the quill to hold the work in the lathe mode. I usually find this out when I try to go from lathe mode to drill press and can't get there from here. After i got through resetting the way tubes one day, I used a very fine tip Sharpie marker to mark the way tubes at the pivot casting. Now I can see whether I've moved the way tubes. Of course, remembering to disconnect the lifter before going into lathe mode helps... Great channel!

[@MyGrowthRings]

That's a very smart idea. I have a Lift-Assist on my 510 back in my shop and I can see how it might add to that stress. Thanks for the tip. Scott

[@williamkaczmarek3996]

Thanks Scott, I learn something every time I watch your videos. I'll look at that when it warms up enough to go out and play in the shop. When it dips into single digits I tend to stay indoors. Right now, my space heaters can't keep up.

[@MyGrowthRings]

I totally understand.

[@douglas60040]

I’m glad I found your videos...much more knowledge than the salesman/instructor I got my Mark V from. Thanks.

[@MyGrowthRings]

You are very kind. Scott

[@Frontierhouse5]

I just bought a Shopsmith that was made in 1955, primarily for the lathe, disk sander, and horizontal boring functions. I've been woodworking professionally for over 25 years but never did much turning and that which I did was on a Shopsmith. Anyway, just teaching myself to turn as I'm doing furniture repair full time and we occasionally need to re-make a spindle, stretcher, leg, etc.. Thanks for doing some really basic stuff with both turning and Shopsmith. I have the original threaded posts on my tool rest and it's aggravating to make a minor height adjustment because the teeth on the "rack" are angled by way of it really being a thread, so the whole rest swivels back and forth out of parallel with the stock.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Hey Jonathan. I recommend grinding or sanding a flat in the post, as I showed in the “picture in picture” at 15:30 or perhaps consider picking up a modern version from SS or on eBay. Scott

[@KevinCoop1]

I’ve used my Shopsmith and Total shop to turn many bowls up to over 12”. Yet I still learned from your video! Very professional and thorough.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Glad to hear it, Kevin. Thanks for sharing. Scott

[@KevinCoop1]

@@MyGrowthRings I’m going to have to watch all your Shopsmith videos when I get time. Thanks for educating us! Respectfully, Kevin

[@brucepeter3409]

Welcome Back, Scott. Very well explained lathe alignment tutorial. Please go over the process you use to "clean-up" the rust/corrosion that is on your tool rest post. Thank You

[@MyGrowthRings]

In all likelihood I'll simply attack it with WD-40 and Scotch-Brite, just as I did the jointer.

[@brucepeter3409]

@@MyGrowthRings thanks Scott

[@edmcgugan2079]

Thank you for these great videos! Just bought a 1954 Mark V and learning how to set it up. All good so far! Great machine!

[@MyGrowthRings]

That's awesome! They are great tools and that's awesome that you are keeping her alive.

[@jasonjones4036]

I got a shopsmith last fall. I'm not handy at all but want to learn. After setting up, maybe I'll have the confidence to get started

[@MyGrowthRings]

It takes time. Read your manual and if you don't already have it, get a copy of the book "Power Tool Woodworking For Everyone". A used copy is just as good as a new one: amzn.to/3qNYEt2 Scott

[@kd6vpe]

So nice to have you back. I really like your tutorials Scott.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thanks Jim. How's that Deputy coming?

[@jimspencer1077]

Thank you for your information I'm not sure if it's this video or not but I've been watching a lot of them I checked my shopsmith and all the bolts was loose I retightened everything and got it all together thank you

[@MyGrowthRings]

Whew! Perfect timing. Now, make some sawdust. Scott

[@FrankPugliese-p5f]

Thank you I will order the paste today. I appreciate all of your help. Also I can’t wait to watch more of your videos!!

[@760raduran]

Once again, you clarified the solution for alignment. I was using the eccentric ring to handle the lateral misalignment. Thanks again.

[@MyGrowthRings]

It works, but it just isn't right. Happy to be of service. Scott

[@2492erb]

Hi Scott! Love the information in this video! I just got my hands on a 1992 Mark V 510. It only had the table saw, table extension, and bandsaw attachments but I would love to also get the lathe and other tools as well and follow in my Dad's footsteps for his furniture making hobby. I am going to buy the lathe accessories from Shopsmith directly if I can (or Ebay or Amazon worst case) but are there any "Do's" and "Don'ts" that you can recommend or give some advice on for starting out turning? I will be watching the rest of your videos too now that I have found your channel!

[@NMranchhand]

Good stuff. Nice attention to the subtleties that make all the difference in expert level operation.

[@billmclaughlin8438]

Great video. Looking forward to next week. I binge watched all of your other videos last week. Excellent all of them.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thank you, Bill. I appreciate the encouragement. Scott

[@Joe_Public]

Thanks Scott for highlighting the lathe. Turned a bunch of Pepper Mills for Christmas presents this year. Fun stuff. Thanks for passing on your wisdom.

[@MyGrowthRings]

My pleasure. How did they come out and how did you finish them? Scott

[@Joe_Public]

@@MyGrowthRings I was really happy and more important the recipients were pleased. I sanded the down to 1200 and used Shellawax friction finish which is pretty simple and looks great.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@Joe_Public Good choices and I bet they will be loved for years to come.

[@jeffjones2449]

Great video thanks just bought a shopsmith 10er and trying to see what little missing pcs i need for the lathe

[@MyGrowthRings]

The 10ER is similar, but different. Do you have a manual for it? If not, you can download one from vintagemachinery.com. Just search for the name Magna.

[@TheTunnellTake]

Man I love this channel!

[@MyGrowthRings]

Well, that was nice to hear. Thank you. Scott

[@TheTunnellTake]

😊😊

[@jaytrott6425]

Glad to see you back. Thank you.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thanks Jay.

[@markgaver2407]

Hey I was just given a shop Smith Mark 5 is in ok shape I'm not sure were even to begin the rails are a little rusty any suggestions were to start

[@MyGrowthRings]

Did it come with a manual or any other books? That's where I would start. Check www.shopsmith.com for anything that's missing and if you go to the bottom of their home page, click on the Forum, for free access to literally YEARS worth of knowledge and experience.

[@Dingdongwitchisdead]

I just picked up a nice set of Craftsman chisels off of EBay. Been awhile since I purchased a good ‘ol Sears product. I hope they still live up to the quality that Craftsman used to.

[@MyGrowthRings]

As Lloyd Christmas said “There’s a chance!”

[@bobbycuesroadhouse2204]

I found mine in a construction dumpster, only attachments I found with it, The jointer, Drill chuck, the disc sander, everything works great little rusty but? Do you know where I can find table saw attachment and lathe tail stock for reasonable used prices? Great video, I came here after I saw your appearance on John Malecki‘s channel! Great stuff thanks for sharing

[@MyGrowthRings]

Wow, that’s some find! You’ll find parts on eBay, but I would also keep an eye out on Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace, where you might find a reasonable priced unit that is being parted out. Scott

[@DanH37ww]

I love the way you called it a lathe-based multi-purpose tool. I picked one up in an auction for 200 bucks thinking that it would make a great lathe. I don't really have any intent on using the other stuff.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Nice get!

[@theamaturepro]

I bought mine just for using as a lathe and I love it! Especially its horizontal drinking ability. I got a chuck on mine, I would say it's pretty useless as a lathe without a good chuck. I think it's a Nova chuck, pretty expensive but worth every bit! I hope you're having a good experience with yours

[@DanH37ww]

@@theamaturepro I have yet to use it. To be honest. Thanks for the tip about the chuck.

[@theamaturepro]

@@DanH37ww well get on it! Lol. You'll be looking at every tree in your yard for limbs to trim off for material! Lol

[@StephensPenTurnings]

A great instructional. I just refurbished a 55 Greenie for a friend. Although I explained all of this, having the video as a reference will support her knowledge. I know there are some differences but the general ideas are there. Liked and subscribed!

[@MyGrowthRings]

Glad to hear it and happy to have you here. Scott

[@StephensPenTurnings]

@@MyGrowthRings I meant to mention that I did the work here in my shop and showed her the set up adjustments. In order to transport it home in her SUV I pulled the pivot shaft, A simple spacer block helped in the realignment but she'll need to readjust everything this spring when she can get out there to work. We're in the NE USA. Thanks again for a simple, straight forward video.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@StephensPenTurnings She might be surprised how well it traveled. Scott

[@billlarrabee9436]

I do duplicator Lathe work on a Shopsmith. Everything you said is spot on. If you have watched Doug Reed's videos, he would agree with you. He used to do demonstrations for Shopsmith. Great video! BTW, the lathe duplicator is a whole different ball game but a lot of fun.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Totally agree on all points. Scott

[@daveschmitt6369]

Welcome back. Good info as always. Comments are always worth reading as well.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thanks Dave. Yes, I have some excellent subscribers! Scott

[@timplays6602]

I've never turned w/ the Shopsmith -this is very valuable information

[@MyGrowthRings]

Yes, this check-up will improve all of the functions of the Shopsmith. Scott

[@bassrun101]

Garry not Linda. I went to your blog linked above but didn't see a category that fit for some off topic material. I honestly don't know how someone 6 feet tall can work at a Shopsmith lathe. I'm only 5"8" and my back would get so sore and stiff leaning over when turning. I got tired of it and measured the height of my elbow from the ground, the height of the lathe center and built two riser boxes to raise the lathe centers to elbow height. The difference is like night and day. I can turn for hours with no discomfort. Yeah, I can't use the drill press but not a problem. The machine is anchored to the boxes which are wider than the base so no chance of tipping it over and let me tell you I've had that thing shaking pretty good a couple of times! To get around the lack of clearance when trying to turn on the end of a piece at the tailstock pick up a #2 Morse taper extension on Ebay for about 30 bucks and life will be so much better. Don't bolt a piece of square tubing to the tailstock like a video I saw on KZbin recently!

[@MyGrowthRings]

I used to have a set of blocks that I made for just that application. We took in a job in an architectural millwork shop where I worked back in Dayton where I had several large finials to turn for the top of gazebos at a local park, and because of the hours and hours that I would be turning on the Mark V I first built those blocks. Made a world of difference. Scott

[@jimspencer1077]

Thank you so much I've got to shop Smith I've never turned on it yet I'll check everything that you said to do and read the manual

[@Peter-od7op]

Ty for these vdo i just got a used shopsmith and really have no idea how to use this

[@MyGrowthRings]

Happy to have you here, Peter. Scott

[@dianadougherty7187]

Hi Scott. I am so glad to have found your channel, I am learning so much about the Shopsmith. I inherited a barely used machine and the planer and jointer were in the original box unopened. So far I have only used the drill press, but now because of you, I am ready to use more. Is there a video somewhere on the set up of these machines? I am more a visual learner, and the planer has a lot of parts. thanks so much. Diana

[@MyGrowthRings]

That's awesome, Diana. I haven't done a video on the planer yet, but I do have one on the jointer that might help. It's not exhaustive, but it might help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hafJfJqEqd2miJY

[@mechanickw.5995]

Thanks for the great video,, as always! I performed this procedure and it required a lot of adjustment with that screw - so much that when I pulled the headstock back to the attachment end, the shaft for my bandsaw was way out of whack. Can you explain how to compensate for this adjustment when it comes to aligning things for the other attachments? I feel like it's twisting the way tubes way more than is reasonable, so perhaps I have something else out of alignment that I'm missing.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Make sure that your machine is on a flat surface and that your floor isn't introducing a twist. Otherwise, you may have to make a one time realignment with the bandsaw. Does your bandsaw have eccentric posts? If so, that's how we align the accessory SPTs the the drive spindle n the headstock. Scott

[@mechanickw.5995]

@@MyGrowthRings Thanks for the reply - you know what, I bet it is the floor. The headstock moves a bit less easily when I made the adjustment with the screw and it seemed to be making such a large correction. Also, I love the chisel rack that makes a brief appearance in this video - is that something you made, or have a link to basic plans to?

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@mechanickw.5995 I do have a plan somewhere, but in the mean time someone has uploaded a similar plan they made on the MyGrowthRings Facebook group page. Check that out. Scott

[@darenneuenschwander6860]

Scott, I just pulled my dad's 1980 shopsmith out from against the wall. It's been setting for decades but inside. I've waxed things up, oiled where necessary, based on your videos. I just found your channel, I like it! Thank you! Was checking the lather tailpiece, only one set screw on the eccentric. On the casting for the way tubes at the opposite end...I lift waytubes and the is only a threaded hole under the far tube. I am assuming that is where the adjustment setscrew should be resting?? No clue where it might be. Can this still be purchased from SS? The manual I had found online stated to just move the eccentric, didn't mention this 'hidden' setscrew for the tube to adjust alignment. Could this be a model that did not have it included? Thanks for the videos and the help. in this case. Daren

[@MyGrowthRings]

That’s great news, Daren and welcome to the channel. I doubt that they have that setscrew available because I don’t think they use it any longer. That said, I may be wrong. It’s used on the Mark V, but not on the Mark 7, but I believe that they have the Mark V still in production so there’s a chance. If there’s a hole there was a set screw. I suggest giving Shopsmith a call. Scott

[@kevinoestmann4644]

what is the sharpening wheel you having on the other end of your headstock ? that looks handy.

[@MyGrowthRings]

It is handy. Check this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYPFgYBud7ONjqs

[@danielegbers8249]

Nicely done. Thank you!

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thanks for watching. Scott

[@williamrogers2030]

Hi. I acquired a Shopsmith Mark V with a bunch of its tools. I don’t think it was ever used much if at all. It’s been in storage for 5-6 years. Some of the tools have some rust other parts have never been opened. The 4 long tubes running end to end have some light rust on them. What is recommended to clean them? Loved this video - I did see a video of someone laying their tool’s back on the spinning wood to see if it was smooth.

[@johnnymackay4640]

Thankyou for your fast reply Scott. Interestingly, while you say my Mastershop is a clone and only "similar" so I'll get something from your videos, I saw nothing you showed which wasn't exactly the same. Additionally, there's a UK site calling it a "rebadged" Shopsmith and in doing so, sells the MkV workshop manual for it, along with several other "rebadged" multi tools. Interesting if nothing else. Johnny

[@MyGrowthRings]

Yes, they are pretty faithful copies, but because they were reverse engineered the parts are all slightly different in the size. Most of the Taiwanese machines have black lower tubes, and some form of hole or vent or opening on the legs. Also, the switch is usually below the speed control on the motor pan. There are other differences but those are the most obvious. If by any chance you have one of the earliest models with a switch above the speed control than those other trade dress changes I mentioned may not be present. Trust me, Shopsmith would not allow their machines to be “rebadged”. I own thee clones myself. Scott

[@johnnymackay4640]

Scott thank you for the video. It is particularly interesting to me because while I do not have Shopsmith multi tool, I have recently acquired a Mastershop multi tool which, as you may know, seems simply a rebadged Shopsmith? Either way, its vintage at 30 years old, heavy and ordinary. But I bought it as a lathe and I'm hopeful it will allow me to learn turning some chair legs and stool legs. I will additionally watch your other videos in the hope of learning all I can about it. Thanks again. Johnny

[@MyGrowthRings]

Hey Johnny. No, it’s not Shopsmith. What it is most of us refer to as a Shopsmith clone. Was in Taiwan I’ll be approve shoots between Shopsmith in to town wish resulted in agreement imports have to make certain “trade dress” changes, meaning primarily cosmetic changes. They are not 100% compatible because the number of changes were made in China leave engineered those components. If you Google the term “shopsmith clones” The first couple responses are things that I wrote on my blog. Either way, you are welcome here, machine is close enough information I share will be useful in applicable to you.

[@WeirdAM7]

I just bought an old shop Smith and I'm getting it set up. Great video, thanks for the help

[@MyGrowthRings]

Congratulations, Jeff! Are these your first Shopsmith tools? Which tools did you get? Scott

[@WeirdAM7]

@@MyGrowthRingsyes my first! Its the jigsaw model 610? I'm still learning about it. I was hoping to retip some pool cues and maybe get into wood spinning.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@WeirdAM7 Well then, welcome to the Shopsmith family! Yes, there were two different jigsaws produced and the 610 was the jigsaw with the tubular arm if that's the one that you've got. It's a handy tool. Turning is a lot of fun, too. Where are you located? We are in the middle of NC. Scott

[@WeirdAM7]

@@MyGrowthRingsThanks! yessir, that's the one! It's in need of a lil TLC, so I plan on watching more of your videos. As I'm new to all of it. I'm located about an hour south of Salt Lake City, Utah.

[@MyGrowthRings]

I’ve spent a fair amount of time in SLC proper, but never wandered south. I want to say that Shopsmith had a store there at one time, so that might mean a nice pocket of tools and accessories on Craigslist.

[@DeWoodyard]

I have my grandpa's Goldie, getting it running eventually...

[@jerbear7952]

Dude you need to get on it so your grandkids have a nice tool :)

[@Gadgets4377]

I recently moved, and my Mark 5 developed an issue with the caster assembly in the left side falling out. I thought it may have been dropped by the movers, causing the left leg to widen. Any chance the base tubes being out if position could cause that? I've placed a ratchet strap around the leg to draw it in which keeps the casters in place. You're a great source of info and support. Thanks much.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Is it the rod that you step on that is falling out? Depending upon when your casters were made there may be a small machine screw that is screwed into the ends of that shat to keep it from falling out. If the metal ends of the carters are bare aluminum you probably have the screws. As for the tubes, I would absolutely suggest that you get below it and make sure that everything is snug and in place. Scott

[@Gadgets4377]

@@MyGrowthRings Thanks for the response. It's not just the rod you step on. The entire assembly falls apart. I checked the way tubes and they're fully seated against the stops and secure. I think the movers did something to cause the leg assembly to spread out slightly. I'll check for the machine screw however. I have the new red wheel set but have not installed it yet. I don't move my SS around much in this location, so I may go ahead and install them. Thanks for all the great info BTW. You're my go to source for help. Cliff

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@Gadgets4377 Cliff, if you can email a picture or a short video, that might help me assess if there’s something in particular that needs to be done. You can email me at Scott Markwood(at)gmail(dot)com

[@Gadgets4377]

@@MyGrowthRings On closer inspection there is a machine screw missing on the operator side of the wheel assembly. I'll send photo to your email. Since I don't move this much, I installed the new SS casters, following your suggestion of swapping the assemblies so the "step on levers" are on the back side of the SS. For my setup, they work great. Appreciate all the information you share.

[@FrankPugliese-p5f]

I love your videos I recently got a total shop from marketplace. I’m having a little trouble figuring out the lathe. Any information would be much appreciated. Thank you

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@FrankPugliese-p5f Is the issue the lathe or turning on the lathe?

[@FrankPugliese-p5f]

@@MyGrowthRings Thank you for responding I have figured out the lathe. I was having trouble getting the guard into place. I’m going to try to get the table saw and jig saw working tomorrow. Is Wd-40 ok to use on the machines moving parts?

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@FrankPugliese-p5f It’s OK, but once you get things moving, you’d want to remove WD-40 as thoroughly as you can. In the long run, it attracts too much dust and dirt, and will create problems. Also, don’t slide the headstock or the carriage over tubes that are sprayed with WD-40.the best thing is paste wax. I did a video on the best lubricants to use, that might be worth a look.

[@jamesbrunk9817]

Interesting alignment comments. I have the single set screw eccentric and I used a combination of twisting it and adjusting the height to align it with the drive center. Of course I did not read the instructions! In my defense, I find all Shopsmith instructions difficult to understand. How about a bit more discussion on the set screw at the other end? I’m headed out to the shop after lunch to look for it (and also finish the live edge bowl I started yesterday). I’ll check the bench tubes too to be sure they are seated, although I did do that about a year ago ( they were not seated). I’d also appreciate your thoughts on the flex of the tailstock when pushing with the quill.

[@MyGrowthRings]

There's certainly nothing "wrong" with using the eccentric to align the centers. I mean, alighted is aligned. Hopefully, everything is still firmly seated but I'd be interested in an update if it's not. Scott

[@jamesbrunk9817]

All seated well.

[@calvinbass1839]

I noticed the tool rack on the operator side between the legs. I inherited my dad's Shopsmith & he has the tool rack but I cannot figure out how it mounts. Thank you for the info!

[@MyGrowthRings]

Good eye!

[@lawrenceashworth7668]

Just got a older shop smith , I would say it mid 80’s. How do you lift into drill press mode

[@MyGrowthRings]

Check this video out kzbin.info/www/bejne/jobWfKZ3oqt8i6M

[@arthilliker3721]

Hi Scott !! I use some Emery cloth strips to clean up the bad spots on the machines I buy. I use a little WD40 for a lubricant. I just pull it back and forth over the tubes in a "sawing" motion. Seems to work great for me. Give it a try !! Thanks for another great informative video !!

[@MyGrowthRings]

I've done that myself. Great tip! Scott

[@jamespatrizi6011]

Thanks Scott for another great video. When turning small stock(pens) I am not able to get the tool rest very close to the stock. Is the Universal tool rest my only option to get the rest closer?

[@colemahaney880]

how do you use a face plate or a 75mm chuck on the power head ?

[@MyGrowthRings]

The Shopsmith faceplate simply mounts with a single set screw. Lathe chucks usually require a Shopsmith adapter, but most of them have that available as a stock item. I know that's true of One Way and Penn State Industries. Scott

[@MyGrowthRings]

Also, you can buy an adapter that will convert the plain 5/8" Shopsmith spindle to a 1" x 8tpi spindle: amzn.to/3hRPZ65

[@johnrice6793]

Another well done, informative video. Glad yer back.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thanks John!

[@dannysisk9458]

I just picked up a mark v with every pro mod. It's amazing.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Congratulations! Is it your first Shopsmith? Scott

[@sassafrasvalley1939]

Thanks.... I’m gonna check my tailstock alignment again. I’m pretty sure that I used the mis-alignment cam to center mine. I paid no attention to the two alignment screws. Do you have a video showing how to use the thumbnail tool? I’ve tried to find the right place and method to use it several times. It just doesn’t click with me.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Good. And double check the bolts and setscrews on the base too. It's one of those things that you never think to check, but if it's not right it's like building a house on sand. By the thumbnail tool are you talking a bowl gouge or something else? Scott

[@sassafrasvalley1939]

@@MyGrowthRings the round tip tool that comes with the Shopsmith turning set. I haven’t found a name for it.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@sassafrasvalley1939 Got ya! That’s a round nose scraper and it’s mostly used for faceplate turning. The grind on it is all wrong and implies that it’s a spindle tool, but there’s no practice use for that shape

[@sassafrasvalley1939]

@@MyGrowthRings thanks... I’ll try it there.

[@unclebob8746]

I am in the process of building a thickness sander. I turned the shaft that will hold the sandpaper on my CNC, which is dead-on accurate. Then I mounted the 2.25" d oak shaft on the Shopsmith. Bummer. The Shopsmith is not properly aligned. The trick of using a long brad point drill bit to align the quill to the tail stock I learned from your video. Great, now I can go back to the Shopsmith and get it properly aligned. I bought mine in January 1979, so I've got a little more work to get it aligned than on your model. Thanks for this vid.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Happy to help and I'd love to see how your sander comes out. If you don't post a video you can email me at ScottMarkwood(at)Gmail(dot)com. Hope it all goes smoothly! Scott

[@mitchj8032]

Where to buy a head & tail stock insert for lathe work and the 4 pipes that the motor slides on

[@MyGrowthRings]

eBay is your friend!

[@williamtisher2012]

Enjoy your videos. I will check my Shopsmith out with your set-up tip. Getting back using it now that I retired from the Power Plant. Wondered if you could do a video tip on cutting bevels on the Mark V in a future episode? Want to do cleats for cabinets and want to do it safely.

[@MyGrowthRings]

I sure can. It'll take a little while, so in the meantime check out Geoffrey Baker's channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHmvdZSFpaloZqc

[@bradwiebelhaus7065]

Another great video and refresher.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thanks Brad. I always appreciate seeing your comments. Scott

[@jimwall1348]

I see videos that use a Forster bit to do the initial hole in a turned vase. How do I drill out a vase that I turned on my Mark 5?

[@MyGrowthRings]

Is the vase turned between centers or on a chuck or faceplate?

[@jimwall1348]

@@MyGrowthRings The short answer is, I’m open to suggestions. The more complete answer is, I have been in woodworking for decades, but I am brand new to turning. I was given a Mark V with only a chuck, a drive center and a live center in the tail stock. I’ve made a few spindles and handles. I’d like to get into turning bowls and vases. I’m very willing to buy more accessories once I understand more about what I need. If this is too much to ask, I completely understand. I love the thoroughness and clarity of your teaching.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@jimwall1348 There are a couple ways to skin that cat, but at some point you’ve got to drill and or turn the interior of the vase. If I’m turning between centers I usually turn something of a tenon or cowl on the bottom that later I can grip with a chuck while drilling using a tail stock chuck arbor holding a Jacob’s chuck and a drill bit. Other times if I’m turning a base I’ll turn the body of the vase between centers and create a tenon on the bottom, then turn the bottom on a faceplate or chuck and then using a tail stock chuck arbor I’ll drill a hole in the base that matches the tenon and glue them together. If I’m in a hurry I’ll use a CA glue. From there drill the hole in the vase, again with the tail stock chuck arbor. I hope this all makes sense.

[@jimwall1348]

@@MyGrowthRings It does. Thank you. Any chance you have a video that shows this process?

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@jimwall1348 I’ll try to work it in. Scott

[@donaldquinn3610]

Although Ive had a Shop smith since I was about 12 i never turned wood I aligned it well as you suggested two problems the wood flew off hit me in my….Head mask( oh yes I wore a head gear). And for some reason the wood which was a 2x4 kept loosening on the center? I used the same exact centers that you did..Any thoughts? Thank you again for doing these educational videos

[@MyGrowthRings]

It can happen. In fact, it happened to me a few weeks ago because I was turning something that was out of balance and off-center. It’s actually pretty easy with pine because it’s so soft. It’s very important that you drive the centers in as deeply as you can with a mallet or hammer, and double check the pressure and make sure that all of the points that need to be tightened are in fact, tight. In my situation, the tool rest moved into the vibrating spindle. I posted a short video on my community tab where you can see what happened.

[@donaldquinn3610]

@@MyGrowthRings thank you. Enjoy your channel. Please send link to join as a sponsor I had a problem finding the other day. Thanks. Dq

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@donaldquinn3610 There are two links in the video description. Just click “Show More” above.

[@jgmallin7080]

Welcome back. I'm going to disagree on the purpose of the set screw under the way tubes. In my manual (page 27) Alignment and Adjustment (Model 510), 11, The setscrew is for aligning the extension table on the left end, with the worktable. Lathe: On page 28, you loosen the setscrews on the eccentric mount. Rotate the eccentric mount as needed, tighten setscrews.

[@MyGrowthRings]

I suppose we'll need to talk about this some more mid-week.

[@jgmallin7080]

Ok. So I just went and checked out my tailstock. I upgraded to 510. I still have the 500 tsilstock. After I commented previous, there was something that didn't sit right with me. I didn't align the tailstock during the 510 upgrade. The 500 tailstock doesn't have eccentric tubes. In fact, they (tubes) have been pressed into the tailstock, no set screws.... so the adjustment is to rotate the taper assembly (one setscrew). Hope this helps your update Cheers Jeffrey

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@jgmallin7080 None of the Shopsmith tailstocks have eccentric tubes. The “eccentric” is referring to the adjustable Morse taper cup.

[@jgmallin7080]

@@MyGrowthRings ok... now I understand the 2 set screws style. But I'll have reread the 510 setup. I've read where someone suggested tilting the tailstock to make it line up. I dont think that was SS idea. To me the idea of quickly swapping to another setup should not require bending/ tilting anything .

[@jgmallin7080]

You, again, are absolutely right :) ...... the eccentric is the one on top. As per instructions. Having reread that section,again, and again....

[@BoWbaoS]

So happy to see your back. Another awesome video. I had lost confidence in my Shopsmith, I was especially disappointed with my bandsaw, and was about to sell it and go for individual tools and then i saw your video on how to set up the bandsaw. I can now rely on extreme accuracy when I'm using it. I even got into it with the Bear guy when he was dissing the Shopsmith. Since then I've watched most all of your videos and I learn some thing new every time. This one has me changing my plans for my next time in my shop. The way tube thing is scary as hell. I'll take the time to check that I bought mine used and the manuel was a bit messed up so I used the Shopsmith online video to do my initial setup. My question/comment: In the video you seem to be adjusting the left to right alignment only. Mine has the single set screw so I'll need to adjust the large set screw on the way tube. It occurs to me that the way to be certain of the alignment is, if after turning a cylinder, you could use a square to check the side of the cylinder against the end to see if it is still square. But does it really matter since it seems the flex in the tailstock would mean it is most likely sloped to some extent?

[@MyGrowthRings]

Wayne, I'm happy to hear that you are now happy with your Shopsmith tools and thanks for taking on the bear! I'm not sure that I follow your last thoughts. There is only one large setscrew, and it should be all you need to get the way tubes aligned. There shouldn't be any discernible slope in a cylinder. Scott

[@giljusino]

Is there a max weight for the wood you put on the shopsmith lathe?

[@MyGrowthRings]

Gil, this may not give you an exact answer, but it should give you a pretty good idea of the potential capacity: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpbanWatbL1socU

[@giljusino]

@@MyGrowthRings thanks Scott! And I was concerned about turning a 2” x 14” piece of cherry 😀 BTW, I’ve had the good fortune of meeting a local woodworker here in Asheville who has a lifetime of building rustic furniture. He can no longer operate machinery, as he has a pacemaker. The electro-magnetic field from power tools upsets a pacemaker. I’ve volunteered to be his “hands” to continue the tradition. It’s a fabulous opportunity to learn this art. The cherry is a cutoff from a coffee table we are building.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@giljusino wow, that’s a great opportunity but a really sad story. I have never heard that about pacemakers.

[@johnnorth1187]

I don’t know if you take questions, but here I go. Can my mark 5 be set up to do steel? If so what do I need and where can I buy what I need.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Hey John. No, not really. It doesn’t have the ability to hold the cutters, and most of them don’t have the ability to turn slower than 700 rpm’s. The newest version can, as it has electronic variable speed, but even so, the machine itself just isn’t built for it. Scott

[@neiljackson8313]

Scott I just ordered the Shopsmith universal tool rest. I ordered without the 3 different tool rests. Saved a few dollars. Have you used this? Can you do a video on this? Worth it? It looks really stable and versatile. It’s really expensive! Not sure if I should’ve ordered the version with the other tool rests. There’s not much information on this online.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Sorry, but I thought I answered this, but I guess I never clicked enter! I don't own this tool rest, though I suspect that I will some day. Worth it? That depends on your need and budget. The folks who own it report that they'd never go back to the stock rest. Scott

[@DavidL-ii7yn]

The original 10-ER is much different, of course, but has those end set-screws on the top. My understanding is everything is heavier.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Way heavier. Yes, the 10er is a beast but I still prefer the Mark V.

[@modifierle]

I think my shop smith is from 64, and it has way more levers and knobs instead of set screws. You’d think they would stay with the levers.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Is your Shopsmith a Mark 2, by chance? I have one and it has a lot of levers instead of set screws, and I kind of had the same thought.

[@frootloop417]

Hi Scott. I started watching some of these videos since I recently acquired an old Total Shop machine. Some of the parts were missing and I have been slowly piecing it together. I didn't realize at the time I bought it that it was a knockoff of the Shopsmith. Anyway, I can't for life of me find a tool rest arm for it. Do you know if one of those Shopsmith tool rest arm designs is compatible with the Total Shop?

[@MyGrowthRings]

Hey Kyle, Yes, the tool rest from the Shopsmith Mark V Model 500 will not only work but is actually superior to the Total SHop rest as long as you get one that doesn't have the grooves machined all the way around the post. They are available on eBay all the time but make sure you don't get the one designed for the model 510/520, which is much too long, and make sure about the machining of the rack on the post that it's not all the way around the circumference. Scott

[@davidross2376]

Hi Scott, I continue enjoying and learning from your videos. Thanks very much. I'm trying to figure out how large a bowl can be "practically" turned on my standard Mark V 500. I haven't found much info on the various forums - it seems most people don't go over 8" or so. My largest/heaviest blank so far was 12" x 4" and green - pretty heavy. I took a lot of care to trim and balance the blank before turning, and still experienced a fair amount of vibration before I got it round. Do you have any tips for going larger? Thanks in advance!

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thank you for your kind words, David. The largest pieces I turned were about 24 inches in diameter but were brick laminated, hollow and well-balanced. The key to any large turning (and you know this already) is it has to be balanced. I’m not at all uncomfortable turning up to about 12-14 nches in diameter but beyond that even when they’re properly balanced they can get a little shaky. I know of people that turn much larger but they tend to add additional weight (sandbags) to the machine to dampen vibration.

[@BarefootViking]

Hello! I'm seeing alot of spindle turning on a Shopsmith, but what is your opinion of turning bowls?

[@MyGrowthRings]

In my opinion, the bearings in the quill of the Mark V perform best under compression, as when used for spindle turning. I have done my fair share of faceplate turning and have turned some fairly massive pieces and I get frustrated by catches that I can only attribute to the type of bearnings that are in the quill. If all I wanted to do was bowl turning I think I'd move to a stand-alone lathe with tapered roller bearings. If that makes any sense. Scott

[@BarefootViking]

@@MyGrowthRings thank you very much for sharing your knowledge. I greatly appreciate you

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@BarefootViking Happy to share my opinion.

[@SteveAddis]

@@MyGrowthRings I know this is an old post. This has me concerned because the main use for my Mark V was for bowl turning. I have not turned a bowl yet. I purchased the Easy Wood chuck with a 1" x 8 thread because that is the only size for the adapter for Shopsmith. Regular lathes may take 1.25". Should I check run-out measurements and see if it is noticeable there? This sure has me thinking now. Thank you much for your input and dedication to the Shopsmith community.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@SteveAddis It’s always wise to check any lathe for runout. As for the comment about “regular lathes…” there’s no standard size, thought most DIY lathes today have 1” spindles.

[@BadAppleWoodwerx]

Thanks for the in-depth walk-thru. 😎 I'm still curious how to use the eccentric at the tailstock to do off-axis turning. Any interest in doing a video on that? It seems to me that with the markings on it, it would be useful. But it also seems like you'd need to re-align it every time you turned it, no?

[@MyGrowthRings]

Whoops, your comment was in KZbin jail for some reason. I'm sure we'll get around to covering that but I'll admit it's not very high on the list. Do you need to turn tapers? No, there's no need to realign each time if you only loosen one setscrew before turning the eccentric. Scott

[@hughmallany360]

thank you for this info

[@MyGrowthRings]

You are welcome. Scott

[@DAROLDBERUBE]

How do you change the drive belt

[@MyGrowthRings]

I. Eli we it is covered in my 25 Hour Shopsmith Maintenance video.

[@grahamdugan]

Holy Toledo.. After checking mine it’s amazing I haven’t been hurt yet.. the ol’ sounds like it’s off center as the stock is rattling loose is not a good method..

[@MyGrowthRings]

Glad to hear that you took the time to check it. And yes, that’s not a good method! Scott

[@kofdenhamsprings2701]

Since I had the old 500 base, I went and checked my lathe adjustment and found that by replacing the old base with the dual tilt, my adjustment on either end was almost minimal. I also noticed, when using the lathe, the the tailstock flexed just a bit when using a dill bit attached to it. So I took out my plastic dado shims with NO MARKINGS ON THEM (TRASH) and found one that just slipped in the tube slot on the OUTSIDE of the tube away from the motor. Presto! NO flex. AND... ON YOUR 6" Belt Sander video, what is the length of that 3/8" cap screw that everyone probably through away. MIne is missing, K

[@MyGrowthRings]

Sounds like a great fix. As for the bolt, I put the details in that video's description. Scott

[@MyGrowthRings]

I just tracked it down and it's a 3/8"-16 x 2" hex head cap screw.

[@anthonycampos1549]

I got a problem with my mark v. When I turn it on on low speed and turn the rpms up it wants to slow down and not speed up. It’s never happened before. Would you know the problem? Thanks

[@MyGrowthRings]

Have you kept the sheaves well lubricated? Take the belt cover off to see if the motor sheave is sticking in the open position, and while you are at it, take a look through the back access hole while turning the speed dial up to see if the control sheave is properly connected. Hope this reveals the issue. Scott

[@tonyvolbeda952]

great/ informative videos.... don't like the single set screw on the eccentric center.... as it gets old tends not to seat well...drilled a 1/4" hole thru the eccentric just below the tapperred hole...used 1 1/2" aluminium angle with a 1/4'" hole, put it on the back side of the support, had to flatten the casting on the back. (otherwise the angle will not sit 90 degrees to the bolt) as the bolt is tightend; draws the eccentric to seat positvely in its hole (if needed, can eassily go back to set screw)... repurposed a shopsmith 500 to do metal spinning (mainly cooper) the deflection was an issue because; instead of a center point, you squeeze the sheet copper between the head stock and the tail piece.(making cups, didn't want to have hole in the bottom).placed a 3/8" bolt just below the eccentric thru the back of the support thru a metal 2" angle which then was angled down to below the rails into another 2" angle..pushed the 500 to its limit, maybe more.. learned to produce 3" diameter x 5 1/2" tall cup out of 19 gauge cooper. (toughest skill ever learned)..did over 50 of those another 400+ of other spinings...500 was still going strong when it was left in Oregon

[@MyGrowthRings]

That was a smart mod. I spun (spuned?) ONE piece of metal and never had the guts to try again. It may have just been one of those times in my life were I was feeling especially mortal, but I never tried again. Scott

[@tonyvolbeda952]

probably smart move...flayed back of my left hand once trying to trim a piece..wife was pretty upset after finally letting her see it@@MyGrowthRings

[@joerusson7010]

Hi, my speed dial on my old shop smith doesn’t seem to want to turn, what can i do about that?

[@MyGrowthRings]

Is this new behavior? Is the machine running when you are changing the speed?

[@joerusson7010]

@@MyGrowthRings okay, found out i shouldn’t have been changing the speed while it’s off, bad idea. now when i turn it on it hums but doesn’t turn at all, so i think something happened with the pulley?

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@joerusson7010 I did a video on this, but you should be able to raise the speed with the Mark V off, and if it is pinching the belt that should loosen things up.

[@DAROLDBERUBE]

How to replace the drive belt on shopsmith

[@MyGrowthRings]

I think I covered it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4WZp5mQqK9qhassi=zcRaXm9HQpqRVySP

[@jeromenestor4318]

I just got a 1955 mark v and can't wait to use it, I'm just doing a but of research so I don't kill myself or blow the machine up lol

[@Ballistic-kp5wl]

Deleted my post. Found the answer to my question in another video. Thanks

[@dennisholtby2140]

Love your videos. Where do I find your mid-week follow-up videos.

[@MyGrowthRings]

If you subscribe to the channel they'll show up n your "Subscriptions" feed. Otherwise, just check back Wednesday night or Thursday most weeks.

[@scottgreen2883]

Scott, thanks for another great video. I noticed the single versus double set screw in the tailstock on several of the shopsmiths I’ve restored. I’ve added the additional set screw on the tailstock, and also added them on the way tube brackets (especially the ones you have to remove the pivot rod to access the set screw). My question is when Shopsmith went to two set screws, did the change the eccentric at all or are they interchangeable regardless of manufacture date? Also, as noted in a previous comment, I thought the way tube adjustment set screw was set during the main table alignment phase to make the main table parallel with the end table. If it’s parallel, it should also align the quill with the tailstock. I’ve added an incra TS-LS fence with 5’ connecting tubes and it really accentuated any error in the way tubes. Again great videos. You mentioned rust removal, it seems thats all I’ve been doing lately, the three units I’m turning over are covered, it amazes me how some of these units are neglected.

[@MyGrowthRings]

I’m not certain, but I don’t believe there was any change made to the eccentric. My comment about the table not being parallel isn’t to say that the tables can’t be made flat, but that the fence, when moved from the main table to a support table mounted to the left will not always be in proper alignment. Yes, adjusting that large set screw to align the table tops could also inadvertently align the tailstock.

[@MyGrowthRings]

And as to rust, yes, There is so much bare metal on these tools and if someone purchases a Mark V and never gets to the waxing steps, these parts are destined to rust. This Mark V 520 was owned by a guy who had no interest in opening a manual, so it is in sorry shape.

[@FIS681]

How do you turn bowls on a ShopSmith?

[@MyGrowthRings]

That’s a big question. Is your question how do you mount them or what tools do you use or is it how to you approach the task? I used to do a fair about of bowl turing but haven’t done it in years. I started simply screwing the blank to a faceplate and using a round nose scraper, and they lead to using chucks and bowl gouges and ring tools, etc. it’s really an evolution that can take you wherever you want it to. What link of turning would you like to do? Scott

[@FIS681]

@@MyGrowthRings when I watch turning videos, most guys have some kind of 4-jaw clamping piece that holds the bowl from the head stock. I've not seen videos where anybody has one of these on a ShopSmith.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@FIS681 Yes, you can use them and I own several are used in. I haven’t specifically gone looking for Shopsmith turning videos. I’ll see what I can do to share some details. Scott

[@Opus81440]

I do not agree that the Shopsmith is a lathe based machine. In fact without the heavy banjo upgrade it is a terrible lathe. On the other hand it is both a vertical & horizontal drill press. The SS drill press in my opinion it may be the best woodworking drill press on the market, but not a $4000 drill press. On another subject "waxing" I think you are right on target with everything but waxing the quill. I would never wax there. For my quill I oil the shaft & grease the rack & pinion. I see your point, but considering the pressures & other stresses applied here I want smooth but rugged on the quill. By now I hear you saying "now I know why they don't send donkeys to collage". My SS background is this. I started woodworking in the 7th grade shop class. My teacher & friend was a guy who also lived a cross the street. I didn't know it at the time, but my 7th grade class was also his 1st year teaching. In his senior year Magna Filled a room with porotype Mark 5 machines and turned those future shop teachers loose. When my teacher got to my class the SS Mark 5 was the best thing since sliced bread. It left an impression. I didn't get my 1st used Mark 5 until the mid 60s. I had to rebuild twice. A new machine cost way too much for my pay scale. Soooo I bought a TotalShop. I would like to go on record (after repairing both mine and others) this machine is a piece of junk. I think the TotalShop guys took a SS to China and told them to build a similar machine just as cheap as possible. AND THEY DID! I bought my 520 in 1999. At this point my SS is my drill press & back-up for my other tools. I served as SS mentor in my local working club & as a go-to person on North Carolina Woodworkers web site on things SS. Interesting side note. The going price around here for a used SS with no extras is around $500 when such a machine comes on the market cabinet shop jump on them like a rooster on a June bug. Why? The SS makes a fine horizontal boring machine, and a real horizontal boring machine cost several $1000. Pop

[@MyGrowthRings]

Hey Bill, it's nice to meet you and thanks for dropping by. I'm also in NC. That's a neat story about your shop teacher. I bet the Magna boys took photos of that too, but all that neat history is lost to time. When I say it is a "lathe-based multipurpose woodworking tool" I'm not just making that up. No one is saying that it's a prototypical lathe or even a great one, but that was the tool that Hans Goldschmidt designed it around. In fact, in the US patent for what would become the 10ER the very first claim begins: "The present invention pertains to material working machines, and more particularly to machines whose components can be variously arranged to perform diverse operations. An object of the present invention is to provide a material working machine capable of functioning as a lathe, (etc.)" Notice which tool was listed first? Also, of the ten US patent classifications that the Mark V is patented under, the first function singled out is "Classification Y10T29/5109 Lathe." My experience comes from working for Shopsmith for 14 years. Daily I got to hang-out with John Folkerth, Jim McCann, and many other brilliant minds in the R&D and product development department. I'm also a HUGE Shopsmith history nerd and, like you, was a fan for years before owning one. I now own four Total Shops and 5 Mark V's, a 10ER and three Sawsmith RAS. It's always nice to meet another Shopsmith fan, so please don't be a stranger. Scott

[@robertbersin7299]

Hello. Do all ShopSmith models Lathe Spindles come in the MT2 size? I am Not looking for MT1; MT2 only. Thank You.

[@MyGrowthRings]

They have all used a #2 Morse taper on the tailstock but the spindle on the quill is 5/8" with a tapered flat for a setscrew. Most everyone who sells lathe accessories like chucks and faceplates have options for Shopsmith users. Scott

[@JamesCouch777]

My tailstock isn't lined up with the headstock but my Shop Smith is not like yours and I don't have those adjustments 😬

[@MyGrowthRings]

James, do you happen to have an early Mark V? You will have to use the eccentric center to align the centers, but I’d suggest you make sure that everything on your Mark V base are properly seated and tightened, and that it is resting on a flat surface. Scott

[@bobwebberkc]

As Allways good stuff

[@MyGrowthRings]

Thanks Bob.

[@paul72324]

Great info, I’m checking my machine before turn again! What do you find is the turning limits of a shopsmith? I have a ‘92 mark v bought used last week and I was trying to turn a 4”x4x26” piece of red oak but the machine was vibrating fiercely and scared me. I rechecked venters and locked everything down but it kept doing that.

[@MyGrowthRings]

The limits are your imagination. Check this video out and report back: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qILFq3iwZZJqjpI The key thing to learn is what the Karate Kid learned from Mr. Miyagi: Balance.

[@frankenberry9670]

@@MyGrowthRings I have to respectfully disagree. The SS is an amazingly well made and adaptable tool however there are some design compromises that had to be made. Working around those compromises is fine but exceeding them isn't a good idea. There are a number of advanced turning projects that require the piece to be unbalanced. The normal solution is to have a honking big lathe and a slow turning speed. The slower you can turn the piece the smaller the honking big lathe can be. This is where the SS has problems, its slowest speed is 700 RPM which is too fast for a lot of things and the machine is relatively light. Balancing the stock as much as possible before putting it on the lathe takes advantage of other SS modes to bypass the problem in many circumstances but not when the piece is supposed to be unbalanced. The PowerPro headstock alleviates this to some degree by having a slower low end speed. It widens your potential projects a great deal. However this must be done carefully with thought about what stresses and strains are being put on the machine as well as operator safety. Vibration tells you something is wrong. I've seen the video and it is scary. The guy uses the lathe: 1. With jewellery on; 2. Adjusts the tool rest while the lathe is turning; 3. The tool rest and possibly the way tubes are flexing while he makes the cuts; 4. The bearings and mounts are overloaded and may fail at any moment; and 5. He has the machine under tremendous static stress to "stop vibration". Turning it on only adds dynamic stress to an already overloaded system. Yes it looks like he got away with it but how much damage was done to the SS and how safe was it?

[@daveschmitt6369]

I cut the edges off with the table set at an angle. The larger the piece the more sides I cut off. That eliminates most of the vibration. Start slow.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@frankenberry9670 He’s my hero.

[@amandacurry5865]

Ok, what is this ball bearing thing you have. On my shopsmith you just put the wood on the point. Am I missing something?

[@jefferyscott3149]

Thanks Scott. Can you repeat how to adjust the lower tubes if you have a Mark V that's from the mid 80s? I've looked and I can't see any set screws. I got mine when I was in the Marines stationed at the air station Beaufort SC. We had a Shopsmith club and Shopsmith would send a truck down a few times a year when we had our meeting so we could buy equipments at good prices. I've had it a long time but just started using it again. Your videos are the best I've found. I have a 12 inch planer that I never set up...another thing to tackle. Many thanks!

[@MyGrowthRings]

I appreciate the kind words, Jeffery. If you don’t have a set screw you have two options: File, sand or grind the point where the tiebar rests or add a set screw by drilling and tapping the lower side. You’ll know it only setting the eccentric cup in the tail stock with a drill bit in the Duckett and a center of some kind on the tailstock. If the bit is leaning toward the front of the machine you’ll need to remove some metal from the back side of the headrest or add a sets de to the front side. The opposite is the opposite is true. You may find that everything is just fine without this, but in any case make sure that the machine is sitting on it’s legs and on a flat surface.

[@andybilakshow260]

Summary: It's a matter of physics. "PAY ATTENTION to what you're doing! For every action there's a reaction. IMHO, personal responsibility as fallen off the chart. I'd like to add I'm not a shopsmith owner, I have 4! (2) Greenies, (1) 500, and (1) 510. I bought my first, (510) brand new in 84/85? That was back when they had "package deals" I got the whole kit & caboodle. AND NOTE: I did not skip in the set up! If you want it to function with precision, You have to set it up properly, right? One might ask why you'd need so many since they're supposed to be 1 powerhouse for multi use. For one, I like to have a backup since I earn my living building. Also, time is very important. So everywhere I can save time by not having to change setups, saves money. Also, At any given time, I can have 4 separate table saw set ups, or I could run 2 tablesaws, bandsaw, drill press, It just makes life so much easier. One more thing which brought me to this channel. Anybody know of a video of the mark 7 "under the hood" so to speak? And I'm with a few comments I read, "no matter how much you know, you can almost always pick up a sliver of a piece of information." Thanks

[@MyGrowthRings]

Which Mark 7 and what are you looking to learn about what’s under the hood? The 1960’s Mark VII or the current electronic variable speed Mark 7? Scott

[@andybilakshow260]

@@MyGrowthRings Mark 7 Not vii. My understanding is they're pretty much maintenance free? The greenies are very difficult to work on. There isn't an access port at the logo like the 500 or510.If I'm not mistaken, the access port on the 500 is a little smaller than the one of 510. (harder to get my hand into). I guess I'd just like to see a video of one opened up.

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@andybilakshow260 Pretty much. There is one poly-V belt that might need occasional retention in and replacement, but otherwise, they are pretty maintenance free. One concern I have is that there’s no way to do firmware updates on it, and it’s my hope that someday they will offer a version 2 that has that capability. Scott

[@chadnevels246]

Must have been cool in the shop to be wearing a jacket while turning. Sometimes safety is sacrificed for comfort. Not judging. It's tempting to do the same here in southern Oh-ho-ho sometimes.

[@MyGrowthRings]

Super-cold! It was 34 degrees and raining, so the cold just penetrated. I sure wish it would just go ahead and snow already!

[@chadnevels246]

@@MyGrowthRings Bought the same here, but we've had some snow from it. Just a dusting though.

[@tpulles4188]

@@MyGrowthRings 32°F is not super cold ........ the last three night where I live in Canada it hit -32°C overnight ..... thats super cold especially considering the wind was blowing too