The Price of Perfection

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[@nowhereman6019]

A perfect society is impossible because humans are fundamentally imperfect. *But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't strive for a better society*

[@AkshayKumarX]

"Perfection" is also extremely subjective. Our minds are averse to any unwanted and undesired change. Everyone has their limits and nobody can be empathetic and understanding of anyone and everyone at all times. A one person Utopia is the only Utopia where all the participants are happy because they are the masters of their own decisions.

[@dustinmatthews387]

Humans are a hopeless helpless LOST CAUSE. The only thing anyone can really do is A. Work on themselves as an individual and B. Try to influence their immediate family and circle of friends/colleagues. But trying to change the world's populace? You might as well try and win the mega millions and poweball twice in the same single week. There's no way to control others nor is there a way to predict when a person is going to fuck up ie: dictators, serial killers, mass shooters...basically any and every crime there is) so attempting to change the world for the better-is futile, as is hoping your small contributions will somehow, magically and miraculously-reach every corner of the earth. Sorry, But I'm simply being realistic.

[@DanSher]

This reasoning is limited by the premise that humans will always exist in their current form, but the rapid technological advancement will eventually make them obsolete, the age of natural evolution is over, we must no longer obey the whims of random biological events

[@aguspuig6615]

depends on how you define perfect, ''things go wrong sometimes so we are FUNDAMENTALLY IMPERFECT'' thats cope

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[@protect_trans_lives]

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[@Shehias]

"Those who live above them are not an ideal humanity, returned to a state of nature; living in utopian bliss... they are cattle." idk why but this hit different

[@Aravanus]

H.G. Wells, The Time Machine

[@Steelum]

I will never understand why you aren't more popular. These are the most banger video essays I've ever seen.

[@TyrWesterberg]

I found your channel through your "De-infantilizing Star Wars" video that I watched just before this one and wow the quality of your content is surreal. I love your stuff. You deserve massive recognition. Great work!

[@DemolitionManDemolishes]

I guess the all-mighty algo has deemed this vid too risky for the correct world order.

[@lassenyberg6506]

what a coincidence just watched that video and found this afters as well.

[@GinoFrutta]

I've never expected you'd drop a bomb like this after the Warhammer video. Keep up with the good curious and interesting stuff!

[@bobsmith-ty5pp]

Thing is, we are applying our current understanding of social science and moral philosophy to build a utopia. But what about a world where social science and moral philosophy has advanced much further than ours? No different from future tech being more advanced than current tech. It's currently unthinkable to us.

[@Tenelia]

Yup, very much this. In all fields of sciences, we do not merely look at one point in time, but instead start by studying all branches of the past leading up to the present branches, and then see where things will be in 2 or 3 years of further research. Social Sciences research is also commonly misunderstood as being lab-bound (only psychology does that...) or small sampled (sociology and political sciences has huge multi-cohort sizes!). But in our current time, we've seen incredible advancements in all fields of social sciences from China, since the days of their failed Cultural Revolution or Great Leap Forward. These advancements then inform other national leaders and policymakers about what aspects need to be tweaked and further tuned based on what feedback loops. If anyone's interested, The Matrix got it right in the 1990s. Utopia cannot be bliss always. The machine architects HAD to implement striving, imperfections, chaos.

[@Tensooni]

Great video. 0:52 I love that when you said "A place where laws are just and fair", i heard "A place where laws are just unfair". I don't know if that was intentional but it was amazing.

[@frvistoaster468]

That was one of the best prices of media I have watched in recent memory, I have no other words

[@masteryoda5931]

Wow man, yet another amazingly crafted video essay. You seem to just be getting better with every video. Keep up the good work !

[@Beghast-tv]

Thank you! I'm glad you lliked it!

[@theendlesssoldier]

That’s some huge work done by you. Respect that. Keep on going!

[@bukquang]

Basically the perfect utopia representation is of the Orks in 40k. Everyone lives in perfect violent harmony, shares universally common values & goals & everyone is happy all the damn time

[@lakamas69]

Random 40k Ork reference! I loved it!

[@funkyfox7996]

so a fun little thought i had a while back is inspired by minority report: we are currently being observed by spectators in the future who haven't even been born yet. technology is very likely to reach a point when a device or machine can take a series of rapid snapshots of the universe around it, analyze the patterns between each snapshot, and continue the pattern back into the past for a clear recreative simulation of the past (which in the context of this comment, would be our present). say hi to your future audience!

[@funkyfox7996]

on the same line of logic, there will also be a time when spectating people in the past will be illegal without the consent of the observed (you). that means that unless you externalize the consent to be observed by the future, they won't be allowed to. granted, there will be people who circumvent this as there always is for every law. could be when you make a request, an AI scans the "contents" of the past and determines if consent is given. then, if no consent is given, the AI will tell the potential observer that the content is restricted or the observed who did not give consent would be censored out of the output. i have given my consent to be observed and i have even talked at my future observers in various ways. am i insane? likely. do i care? yes, but i want more, not less.

[@NikR333]

Good “The Time Machine” reference man, I knew you had good taste

[@LaughingOutLaud1]

Awesome video!! Don't know why these ppl don't have 1 million subs already

[@numbersix8919]

You're right, freedom is elusive and hard to define, but we do at least know when it's being taken from us. 20:59

[@folcwinep.pywackett8517]

The idea of perfection anywhere in anything is entirely imaginary. The ancient Roman Republic was created not to create the perfect society, but rather to prevent the concentration of social power in any one individual or group. Good, Better, Best! The Good, and the Better exist as real, the Good can be made Better, but the Best is imaginary because it requires an infinite amount of time to achieve.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

I will say that I have my own theory on why utopias fail. It's because nobody can decide what that looks like, and as such nobody will be happy no matter what changes are made. We as a species possess such diverse worldviews that it's impossible to have a "perfect" world. This can be seen in film: "generalist" pictures meant to have as large of an audience as possible rarely impress anyone, but "specialist" pictures that know exactly who their audiences are seem to score positive reviews a lot more often. Unless we just make societies that are divided based on perspective (which is discrimination and as such extremely unethical) we will always be doomed to fail.

[@VerkrKoS]

We are human and our societys and our uniqueness is inherently flawed every individual person is likely to have different beliefs as to how society should operate and so getting everyone on the same page would either take a lot of convincing or killing a majority of the population which isnt viable

[@leviticusprime4904]

@@VerkrKoSthat’s why I am so hesitant to support any revolution that larpers on the internet want. Because no matter how good your intentions are, it will always end in blood

[@malagus_]

One banger after another, these guys are amazing!

[@DreiSchwarzeKater]

All the examples shown, portray a form of class society. I think to argue about the evil nature of humanity is too simple. If the potential of both utopia and dystopia lies within each one of us, the utopian society might be the one, that does not get rid of suffering; but tries to mitigate it as best as possible. And yet understands, that things will never be perfect.

[@epicassassin8502]

Then it is not utopia, because a utopia is by definition already perfect, by trying to justify a different kind of utopian society you inadvertently created something not a utopia, that is why you can’t create a utopia

[@AlexanderDonahue]

@@epicassassin8502 Well since Utopia's don't exist this would conceptually be the closest a society could get to a Utopia so I don't think it's wrong to say that would then be a kind of Utopia because at least that society understands it

[@Miky13]

I was like I know that quality. Where did I meet you before. Ahh yes the Warframe Orc and shaman thingy. Awesome video keep up the work. Loving it

[@IvanEfimov-l7l]

Funny how a lot of comments are thinking they are better than fantasy writers and history itself.

[@elgordo107able]

It was a very interesting reflection. However, I would like to add that just because a utopia is not possible, it does not necessarily mean that everything has to be turned into a dystopia. I say this because there is almost always a clown who uses this fallacy (I have met many people like that).

[@user-cs7fg5eq9r]

True. Incremental improvement is an option.

[@tuskinradar8688]

Love the Time Machine reference

[@kiiroshidori4296]

Wow, not like I didn’t know that, but still... “They are cattle.” gave me shivers. Greed, lust, gluttony, sloth, envy, wrath and pride are not sins, they are part of us, prove our autonomy and humanity are still there. To get rid of them would mean shedding out humanity, and the same goes for virtues. By nature, humans are ambivalent, and in reality there are no sins or virtues or good or bad because everything that lives thrives from and is nourished by the death of another living being. Sorry for the disordered thoughts, but this video just really poked a spot, I’ve been thinking about such things for quite a while now.

[@billybob7135]

Except they are sins because they bring ruin. Greed causes you to stress over nothing and bring starvation to others rather than doing your best with what you have. Lust ruins your relationships for short term gain or worse compared to controlling your urges. Those are just two. You can like stuff, jave ambition, and love without disregarding what you have.

[@LackOfHarmony]

I love your videos. Thanks for this. It’s great.

[@Beghast-tv]

Thank you!

[@astarnull1895]

Nice little twist at the end, and another excellent video!

[@glenmacdonald3477]

The work you guys are doing seems like the modern form of what for has previously been called 'literature'. Absolutely love your work.

[@alang.bandala8863]

Do you really belive... That I wouldn't catch the Time Machine narration? XD

[@ysegrim9824]

All absolute concepts can only be sensibly pursued in the knowledge and acceptance, that they can not be attained and when it seems like such an attainment is near, one is furthest away from it. Beware of hubris.

[@LisanAlGareeb]

Kept rewatching sandworm vid waiting for a new upload. Let's go! 🍿

[@ACID_]

21:00 "Life will find a way" - Dinosaur Man

[@graysonmiller5615]

Oh boy, new Beghast video

[@undeadwill5912]

Utopia when reaching for heaven should remember men are not angels. That we are men, and we are good but we must choose the good and know how to define it.

[@GenXPower]

Your comment section is dissapolontly contrarian and pedantic. It is almost like some people are just looking to criticize without absorbing your points and marinating on the ideas.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

It is how it is. The Ork vs Kroot video has a lot of people agreeing though. Disagreement feeds discussion, and discussion fuels new ideas.

[@MolotovBg]

This is the proof of why utopías will never work. People disagree vehemently about everything, even videos on KZbin. We will never agree fully on how to run our society, unless we become a hivemind.

[@anti-mate407]

theyre just showing their opinions too. its rather rude to call it merely contrarian and pedantic. and besides, like the other guy said its a reflection of the video as well. a perfect society cannot work with humans as we are because we naturally speaking have a hard time all having a uniform belief in every area

[@haya4731]

I love your videos man

[@felixhantraye3546]

Amazing video!!

[@randomdude8202]

Correction, societies fail regardless. And we didn't really have any "perfect" societies, only mediocre ones. We had couple of total distopias, and they also failed quite fast.

[@salsal435]

Always be aware of the promise for a better future, that better future it is not for you but for those who manage it.

[@Suertidofish]

That conclusion is very good. Humans need discomfort in order to improve. The need to fix that discomfort is what drives innovation, and that innovation in turn might create new ways of disconfort which creates even more innovation, and I think that's a good thing. Our flaws is what make Utopias technically impossible, but without them we would lose what makes us human. Utopias are, by definition, perfect and impossible, and humans will always be imperfect.

[@sickjoe9174]

You can make every resource completely equal among all people but the attention of another person will always be finite and the shit people do for attention and safety will most likely never go away in our species. Same with our desire to automate, explore, and fuck shit up when we get bored.

[@ps3MilitarUceda]

Awesome vid, as always!

[@lobstereater]

Very nice video, although I disagree on the dogmatically negative notion regarding the genetic engineering aspect and free will. It is - as usual - more nuanced than that regarding its benefits and culprits as a technology that it is.

[@epicassassin8502]

Easiest way to make it non negative is to not touch the mind of people

[@CoolMyron]

Utopias are Dystopias

[@hidokun9145]

All utopias for some are dystopias for others.

[@VerkrKoS]

How so?

[@CoolMyron]

​@@VerkrKoS Because the only way to make everything so perfect is for it to be forced, or for it to be made up in your dreams. Utopias are against human nature. To create a Utopia we mean to no longer be human. We live in a fallen world. Humans will always sin.

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Babe wake up, Beghast posted a video

[@TheCarroke]

Excellent 👌

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Babe new begast video just dropped

[@Simons_Valere]

Nice little spin on „the Time Machine“

[@zackolsen]

I believe humans are fundamentally good, each seeing ourselves as the protagonists of our own story. However, we only see our story when the narrative of the world is going on. We make mistakes, based on limited knowledge of how that bigger story works. Even the most enlightened human is entirely ignorant of the life story of another person, and thus is unfit to have full dominion over anyone else’s life

[@Litl_Skitl]

3:35 Well that's just the Shire (That is what Tolkien imagined as a perfect life, so fair enough)

[@funkyfox7996]

"the most seductive ideology is that you have no ideology" -exurb1a

[@the_jjabberwock]

What video?

[@funkyfox7996]

Near the end of "big oxygen"

[@akumaking1]

Perfection is impossible

[@VerkrKoS]

Right now at least

[@Isteyak-78]

we are not designed to be happy all the time

[@protect_trans_lives]

Honestly. The video was well made but I find the criticism of utopias a bit shallow. I don't see how the idea of a 'heavenly utopia' being delusional, maps to real life approaches to form a free society.

[@philjohnson1744]

Quite terrifying

[@nusbaumtanner]

Because they aren't, the end. All jokes aside, I'll watch the video now

[@wock3476]

Yo they back?!?!

[@ValhallaZeroFour]

The ending reminded me of The Promised Neverland.

[@j-pears]

I really feel you should have cited the "The Time Machine" by H.G. Wells for your cutaways of the future people. It is very clearly a rehashing of that whole book, and you should cite it properly. Similarly, it would just be interesting in general to have a list of references for the clips of films used in this video, along with any other articles used. With 81.4k subscribers, I don't know how you can think of not doing this.

[@danielbusuttil1819]

You try making, editing and voicing an entire video yourself and when you realize you can't, come back and delete your comment.

[@j-pears]

@@danielbusuttil1819 Referencing The Time Machine by H.G.Wells is not a difficult thing to do, and with that citation being missing it has me suspicious of how many other citations are missing too. It has be questioning the integrity of the videos produced here on the whole. I won't be deleting my comment.

[@yeetusdeletus4239]

@@danielbusuttil1819 that just isn't a valid point here, citation is very important.

[@Butevv]

@@danielbusuttil1819 It's really not that hard to cite things, what kind of point is this? It takes a second to write out "story adapted from The Time Machine by H.G. Wells." Many, MANY video essayists and creators on KZbin manage to make, edit, voice AND cite their videos just fine. Its a long watch, but I recommend you watch HBomberGuy's Plagiarism and You(Tube) video if you haven't already.

[@Beghast-tv]

I hear you. Most of the sources are already cited in the video, as they are used as examples in every part of the essay. Nevertheless, there are a couple of clips from other movies that cover more or less the same topics but are used mostly to visually illustrate what is said in the video, and those are not cited. The story parts reference "The Time Machine" by H.G. Wells, a book that I love. I included it not only because I thought it was a cool idea to complement parts of the essay with his story, but also as a little Easter egg to see if people would recognize the book in the comments. I didn't cite it intentionally, and it made me happy that some of you recognized it. I put the sources in the description if you want to check them out.

[@novastein9567]

This is gonna be peak

[@DizGaAlcam]

you started the video with a bad definition of utopia already, it has nothing to do with being happy all the time, a utopia is just a society where everyone CAN get their wants and needs fullfilled, doesn't mean they necessarily will, frustration is necessary

[@CoolMyron]

sounds like a dystopia.

[@funkyfox7996]

i've never seen or read fahrenheit 451; so i don't know if it's ever explained that there is written language in average life, just not books; but i'm seriously questioning how anyone knows how to read if books are illegal. i went to google, but the question seems a tad too obscure since there was only one relevant article and it's quora :(

[@GeorgeDCowley]

0:35 Very religious perspective.

[@Suertidofish]

of the definition of "Paradise"??? haha

[@sssmoovy]

yeh no shit

[@aguspuig6615]

Something thats always baffled me, we are in a time of unprecedented progress, in practically all metrics we are doing better than ever, with the exception of mental health, but we are also making strives in that department. Yet everyone regardless of political affiliation, age, nationality... seems convinced that utopia is impossible. Its perhaps the one time in history we have had the tools to actually make heaven on earth, or at least the tools to make the tools for that end in a relatively miniscule span of time. Yet we get story after story of the shittiest caricatures of failed utopias and use them as an argument against any and all utopia. You can see why minority report is a stupid system to create an utopia right away, doesnt take a genius. If i list 4 failed attempts at utopia does it mean its impossible? Lets apply that to any other field, wealth, say i tried to be a lawyer, painter, singer and construction worker I could not afford to go to lawschool I did not have the talent to paint for whatever reason I suffered an injury that fucked up my voice, so i cant sing well and As a construction worker alone i didnt make enough money to get rich Is the conclusion that i will always be poor no matter what? No, i would either keep working construction long enough to invest, maybe get into law school, maybe research if theres a way to heal my voice (with stem cells existing, there is), and who knows if i can unlock a talent for painting if i just stop being a pussy and saying that im not meant for it. No one works that way for their individual lives, no one says that they are just meant to fail as individuals, yet we all say utopias are impossible. We just gave up as a collective. Idk what happened, we had it all and we just stopped going to space, stopped making hopefull media, its all about how the world is fundamentally fucked now... even if its better than its ever been. ''Oh but look at this unprecedented bad thing that appeared... like the housing market, or tiktok addiction'' Okay, those are bad, but youre telling me we havnt defeated worse before? and even if we hadnt, even if the problems of today were unprecedented in scale aswell, youre telling me we cant defeat them? Is it so childish to think that we can fix the remaining 1% of bad things, when we have practically gotten rid of war and hunger, or at least made strives that put us well ahead of any other point in known history? Covid was suposed to be the species ending virus and we defeated it in a couple years, both trough modern technology but also because all the world superpowers came together and either directly or indirectly co operated to create a vaccine, both things seem unprecedented to me. Yet youre telling me that Utopia is impossible? I just need more convincing arguments before im giving up on the idea.

[@brianhowe201]

Thank you for that take. It's something people need to hear. The future holds possibility of doing things that have never been done before. We get too caught up in the cynicism of the day. Great things are still possible, but to achieve it, you first need to believe in it.

[@San-li9ml]

The thing about Utopia is that we don't consider other people. Humans are greedy, humans can be cruel, and as long as that remains with us (which it will as it has since we started) a Utopia will end like any other Dystopia.

[@ciarenkruger8347]

I agree that statistically life is better now than ever, but I envy the life you must have lead to give you that much faith in humans as individuals. Utopias don't work because, while humans can always improve to the point of nearly being a utopia, there will always be some percentage of people that won't be whichever way the utopia needs them to be to succeed.

[@cfowler9789]

The covid period was a window into dystopia

[@funkyfox7996]

so regarding the approach to human nature in trying to establish a utopia, i had an idea a a short while ago: eliminate the concept of authority from the human mind altogether. if anyone tries to tell you what to do, their position in life compared to yours won't even be factored in either party's thoughts. it'll just be raw context clues.

[@Mr.Mister96]

How would any society not collapse in a situation were members don't have the ability to rein in one another , to hold others accountable you must have control over them ie authority , regardless of the specific governing system

[@scene2483]

@funkyfox7996 that just sounds like Anarchism

[@ChristianDall-p2j]

I belive that Utopia IS Possible! But it Will require a perfect moral culture, where everyone is taught how to be loving and compassionate to each other! Where everyone helps each other fullfill each other’s need’s, and makes each other happy, becauce they enjoy doing so! There are rules, but theese rule’s Can be changed to better serve pepole! After all, rules should serve pepole, not the other Way around! Rules dont have feelings, after all! Everyone is equal, regardless of age, gender, skill, neurodiversity, or any other factor! Everyone live’s in communitie’s, where everyone know’s each other, and work together to make everyone happier, and have fun! Everything is free, and everyone gets everything they need, both physically and mentally! And when anyone issent happy, and dossent have their need,s met, due to external circumstance’s, they recive compassion from other’s, or themselves! And that make’s feel kinda sad, but a good saddness! A sadness wich gives Them real Human connection to others’ or themselves, and their own feeling’s and need’s! That is a true Utopia! And maybe even Throw in some solarpunk Technology and relationship With Nature, to boot!

[@leviticusprime4904]

Easier said than done

[@StitchOnAcid]

You underestimate what too much happiness can do to a human

[@BorenX1]

Utopia is a state of static balance, where everyone is equal in every way, because deviating from the norm would cause resentment.. this can never be achieved even with perfect moral code or teaching, we as children had been taught to not be jealous and to share what you have, but in practice its not the case, individuals have desires and impulses.. the Only Utopia would be a Gestalt Society of humans that are in a hive mind where everyone have free access to the others mind and no person have any personal property or ownership, and no individual freedom..

[@muhammadfauzanabdurrahman4636]

human is an imperfect creature. so, expecting something perfect from human is already impossible

[@jeluenhayo2410]

In miriads of such people there will emerge those who deviate. A "cultural mutations" if you will. People who want to disrupt such way of life - no matter what their reasoning is, be it personal greed that happen to be different to the regular "perfect moral person" or anything else. And those people will derail the society - until from the broken society strong people will emerge that will fend off the oppressors and rebuild the society. And then the cycle begins anew. "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times".

[@busitalique1767]

Kinda crazy how highly critical so many people are, like let the man talk for a bit. Anyways, I feel like the easiest way to have a place where everyone is content is to reduce scale. It's much easier to satisfy a village of 100 people than it is to fix every issue in a city of millions. Even if the person in charge truly wants to fix everything, it's physically impossible. Why do we need to be 8 billion + on Earth, am I crazy or 1 billion would be quite enough. There's no need to multiply endlessly, we could keep our numbers managable, like quality of life over quantity of life. That's how you utopia

[@Anno335]

So what, you cull 7 billion people and force the 1 billion survivors into breeding programs to ensure a stable population?

[@corwinhyatt519]

What's a bit of genocide for the sake of "harmony".... /facepalm

[@b.delacroix7592]

Are you volunteering to be first?

[@epicassassin8502]

Ahem this is also a trope in dystopian settings and it’s cruel because you dictate who can and can’t have children and what if one is made accidentally? You must enforce the rules and the status quo

[@user-cs7fg5eq9r]

Mm, yes, I like this. But who of the eight billion gets to be part of the eight billion?

[@ErebosGR]

Plato's Republic was written ironically. I don't understand why non-Greeks never get it.

[@Narko_Marko]

What these stories get wrong about crime prevention is that if it existed it would be completely unnoticable. You pick up on someone feeling like they want to do something violent, instead of sending a swat team after them and detaining them all you have to do is adjust their tiktok algorithm slightly to show content that will deter them from being violent. We are all controlled by what we consume and if someone adjusted it perfectly so that we are as happy and as healthy we can be it would be the perfect crime prevention system. There is no retaliation because the victim doesn't even know they are being controlled. Of course this can be used to do the opposite, like how people theorise that chine intentionally promited brainrot on american tiktok while theirs is a lot better. Free will doesn't exist, but instead of forcing people to not do crime with brute force, make them think they chose not to do it even tho you control them.

[@Patrickballhater]

I don't think you can reliably stop someone commiting a crime by changing what they see on tiktok.

[@Narko_Marko]

@@Patrickballhater you can't if you try right before they do it but if you start from birth you can influence a person into having a better life and never even thinking about commiting a crime. I'm not talking only about tiktok, but every algorithm that serves us content can be tuned to place us on the right path. Instead of showing you radical political content that will get you angry it shows you something you are interested in that you will invest time into as a hobby like history or bee keeping or anything like that. Or just instilling good values in a person can be done through content algorithms.

[@San-li9ml]

TikTok content?? 😂 that's the same as saying "If we want someone not to commit mass shootings we ban their Xbox account." That's not how that works, media influences, but humans still control their own choices.

[@San-li9ml]

​@Narko_Marko You're forgetting the fact that Psychopaths exists. People born without feeling, they won't care about how good their life is, how many values are inflicted upon them, there has been countless examples of people who had everything going right. Great parents, good education, limited access to the internet, financially stable, plenty of friends. All these things, and they still committed crimes. Empathy can only be taught to whose can obtain it.

[@San-li9ml]

​@@Narko_MarkoWhat happens when a person gets tired of being taught "good values," whatever they may be. And decide to look stuff for themselves, what if they read history, and find men in war admirable. Nothing wrong with admiring generals, maybe, but what if they admired the violence they inflicted. That's still their choice.

[@b.delacroix7592]

Interesting. I'd say one thing that was only hinted at but not fully fleshed out in this is that fact that the human heart is incurably corrupt.

[@robotjesus555666]

It provides us with a choice. Do we try to overcome our selfish wants and desires? Or do we fall to them, regardless of who would be affected?? Freewill is the MOST important factor of humanity. Religious or not, who we choose to be, and the examples we choose to set are ultimately what determines our outcomes in life.

[@maheus3451]

Nice vídeo, but it's just dealing with the illusion of freedom. The individual isn't supposed to be free inside the society, any model tried out was just a collective with a propose and we just can judge each one with your results for each one participate in it. No westerners, you are not free your rulers are just saving their anonymity until a time of great need.

[@epicassassin8502]

Yet where I live women are free to not wear a burka, so complete freedom, no but more than other places yes

[@VerkrKoS]

I think freedom can be obtained once capitalism as a whole is dismantled and our energy sources take a better more efficient and cleaner turn also without any individual being put into power but instead everyone makes decisions when they are needed to be made

[@numbersix8919]

In case anybody is thinking this video is pro-capitalism, capitalism is either the worst dystopia or just plain hell.

[@epicassassin8502]

Mhm even most Americans know this, because we live in a capitalistic society, but not true capitalism and we know that

[@numbersix8919]

@@epicassassin8502 Capitalists have taken control of the government so that it can't regulate them and are using the government now as a weapon against foreign and domestic competitors.

[@atwcat9370]

@@epicassassin8502 capitalism cannot exist without the government. They are a state symbiosis.

[@atwcat9370]

@@epicassassin8502 capitalism cannot exist without the government. They are a state symbiosis.

[@theorixlux]

:D

[@KeiichiTheOtaku]

Well done. Anti-communism 101 encapsulated in just under 23 minutes.

[@DanSher]

Bait used to be believable 💀

[@CantShootMe]

i put the new forgis on the jeep

[@Vinzenzx]

I didn't saw the video yet, but why is anti-communism in the video?

[@Narko_Marko]

Yeah, because communism was tried again and again and never worked, because of reasons laid out in this video, people are different and outsiders coming into the system completely disturb it.

[@justinjones3918]

Sci-fi Utopias fail because it's fictional...

[@pessien8474]

Not truly. They technically tackle problems on instinctual scale, which begs the question: Is it better to lobotomize humanity with the intention of making everyone pure from sin or is that too inhumane? Would you rather be psychological Hitler or would you stand by when people suffer? People have desires, would you lobotomize lust out of someone by dampening it so that they don't even think of something like rape? That's the kind of question utopian movies ask: when everything is so pure and organized, is it really life? Are people truly living? Because at the end of the day, the concept of a Utopia is a paradox. You can't give everyone what they want they're guaranteed to go to each other and say, "I want to fuck you," "No, you're not my type." The question is, what do you do in that situation? Give one person what they want and dissatisfy the other? Or lobotomize both?

[@lunarkomet]

Nah, eugenics are awesome, you just showed us some flawed applications If done properly it can be the solution to every basic problem Btw, the algorithm really dislikes this video

[@Drudge_Lord]

He explained pretty well how what is considered a desirable trait today, may be a detriment to our future tomorrow. Take for example. Psychopathic nature. Psychopaths are inherently considered dangers to society, unpredictable, without means of usual control, unfazed by pressures of what is deemed wrong. Psychopaths make heartless soldiers, cold doctors, cunning politicians, and unfeeling conquerors. This trait didnt just pop up out of nowhere, it was cultivated. It's a bit unclear when it first began, some theorize that it first began to occur in early Europe with Vikings, Uncaring murderering pillagers. They were prospered into this role. Taught at a young age to mold into what their society deemed desirable. They also destroyed multiple civilizations and ultimately responsible for the loss of many means of knowledge we could have used. Psychopaths are now one of the most terrifying forces that we built into our society. All because one group of people deemed it a desirable trait. The subject itself is iffy, even as I say this there is no saying Eugenics can't be used in some more useful way, but it can easily be our greatest detriment as what one deems desirable traits, whether that be blond hair and blue eyes, may just be a net negative for our species. Isnt it funny? Even with all the Eugenics in the world. Darwinism still plays as Nature's ultimate decider. We arent God. We never will be God. I realized that a bit ago. Sometimes human bias limits what we know is best for us

[@hidokun9145]

The guy wants to create a company in "Brave New World" mode

[@epicassassin8502]

@@Drudge_Lord the only way you could possibly justify it is if you leave the brain alone, and only touch physical traits like strength and eyesight

[@atwcat9370]

Eugenics has never borne positive fruit.

[@VerkrKoS]

​@Drudge_Lord i dont think psychopathy is genetic

[@mizu3095]

It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism. L video, absolutely fails to even define freedom and really shows a cynical view of humanity.

[@epicassassin8502]

The end of capitalism is not what would create a utopia, because ‘the perfect classless society’ already existed in tribal society then we went to feudalism you can’t just say that ending all government would create a utopia because in places like that, people don’t live perfect lives

[@VerkrKoS]

​@@epicassassin8502 classless society and anticapitalism doesn't mean no government