Losing the Meaning of Mediocrity - The Acolyte

[@Beghast-tv]

Thanks for watching! This is a re-edited, more digestible version of the previous video. I’m still really interested in hearing your thoughts on the show. I know they ignored some important elements of Star Wars canon, which sucks, but putting that aside (even if that’s difficult) how would you rate it as a standalone TV show?

[@Suertidofish]

4/10 maybe 5 if you take the two stinker episodes out.

[@Keith-b4v]

I watched it and I'm of the same mind as you, great potential but sloppily executed. In my perspective it was average yet better than Attack of the Clones.

[@bennygerow]

Couldn't finish the first episode.

[@nickfinan6031]

It was difficult to get into but once I was in I really enjoyed it!

[@evelinedereu]

It's good to see a nice and calm rational critique of the show. I personally think I liked it a bit more here, but also can absolutely see where the critique comes from (and was honestly very dissapointed at the weekly release, especially with episodes 3 and 7). I think with star wars being turned into a culture war issue, it becomes more about taking a side sometimes. Especially fully agree that the potential was killed now, it would be really interesting to see what they'd do different for future seasons, how the characters would change in response to feedback.

[@GothaBillsAndDeath]

Coming from the Andor video was like the whiplash I experienced irl after going from Andor to Acolyte with an open-mind.

[@sheogorath601]

This is an excellent and well-thought-out video about a series that could have really used this kind of thoughtfulness. And it definitely needs more people to see this video.

[@Beghast-tv]

Thank you!

[@marscaleb]

The thing that people need to realize about all the complaining about "social/political agendas" in a show: nobody really complains about that stuff when the show is actually good. I've seen plenty of shows that have pushed/promoted agendas, but barely get a blip of anger for that. Those ones have been well-written and well-made shows. Of course, part of the reason why is that if a show is well-written then it handles its agenda stuff much better, because that's conjoined with the writing. When a good writer approaches an agenda, they understand how people actually feel about the issue, and/or know how to disguise an issue, and/or have fresh takes on presenting the issue, and/or bother to honestly represent the good and bad of both sides (which you'd think would be obvious to do) and thus can make a point without getting people's goat. But another important factor is that when a poorly-written/made show takes some stance on an issue, it always looks like they put the cart before the horse: they focused on the issue first and the story second, which 100% of the time creates a bad show. To be fair, sometimes it could be that they DID put the story first but they wrote so terribly anyway, but it's still going to have that same effect of looking like they focused more on a poorly-conceived agenda rather than a good story. If anyone out there is a writer, take note that you should actively avoid giving any kind of nod to a political issue until you have proven yourself as a writer. (And for the love of hell, actually study both sides of an issue before you depict something.)

[@ComCommie]

The main thing to realise is that the whole discussion basically relies on the culture war. If the whole debate about "political agendas" (which everything is political, just because you don't agree with this show doesn't mean it suddenly is more so) didn't exist then this would've just been a show with a small fanbase but ultimately ignored a little bit because it frankly was just mid. but because of the "culture war" crap you essentially see a whole boatload of "fans" who haven't liked starwars since the force awakens came out bash it just because of what they perceive its views might be. That's what makes this so hard to critique, because the actual critiques of the show are weaponised for hate, and without wanting to or realising it the actual good critiques of media like this becomes a mouthpiece and excuse for hateful people to spout bigotry without having to be held accountable. "We're just critiqueing an actually bad show" after all.

[@woodburn9539]

While I agree that the show is "Mid" in the literal definition of middle ground, I think what sours me more about this show (aside from the budget) is that Arcane, a show that came out 2-3 years prior tells a very similar story, but executes it better on pretty much every level. Along with the budget it's just kind of embarrassing that not only was that much money put into this show by the biggest media conglomerate with one of the most famous franchises and it's just "ok", but it was outclassed by a show with (albeit mostly) first time showrunners which is rightfully regarded as one of the best shows of the current decade.

[@alexandervannik1307]

The reason why watchers were so pissed off after watching Acolyte was not because it was crap. But because it was crap after crap after crap after crap. We all got finally fed up to the point of anger. It became finally clear Disney is not trying to do better and failing. No, it's their new style and they like it. And yes, I gave my 1 star to say: "no, WE are not happy, do f#$%ing stop alreadyII!", even though it deserved more, say, 4... no, that's still too much

[@Chickymasala]

The SW community has kind of adopted a sentencing mindset with Disney in regard to the franchise: A criminal doesnt get a pass on his past crimes just by turning over a new leaf later in life, especially not in the courtroom. Similarly, people are just going to keep bombing anything SW with Disney's name on it, even if Disney gets their shit together and makes halfway decent shows. The hardcore fans are past demanding Disney fix the production quality, they want to see some heads roll. There is no technical improvement (more budget, better writing etc.) that will bring them back unless it is an absolute masterpiece. They want Disney to publicly fall on its knees and apologize and sack Kathleen, before they will ever touch a Disney SW show that isn't at least an 8/10. Disney is either going to have to play ball, or abandon the old fans and build a new audience from scratch. Which isn't impossible.

[@ShirleyTimple]

No, the reason why watchers were pissed is that you're all a bunch of entitled knuckle dragger types that will eagerly throw money at anything in the star wars canon, because you lack the intellect to appreciate quality media and settle for the lowest hanging fruit. You're a bunch of junkies pissed that it's getting harder to catch that same high from the same derivative trash year after year.

[@kel9745]

I had a very similar experience to you. Went in hearing so much, expected it to be a terrible show. But there was so much to love about it! Sol and Qimir were very cool characters, and i was even quite engaged by the slow flip of the twin’s alignments. Couldn’t agree more about the memory wipe. Was legit yelling at my tv when that happened, most baffling decision of the whole show for me. But ultimately, it’s my 3rd favorite disney live action star wars show after Andor and Mando. Found your channel from the Orks Kroot vid last night, and dropped a sub because i like your content. Hopefully you’ll drop another vid after i catch up on the backlog :)

[@andrewdefty6044]

The best protest is to not watch... Like Amazon's Rings of Power, I got only two episodes in and that was enough for me. Viewer numbers will show how bad these shows are without going to Social Media to kick up a storm...

[@Beghast-tv]

I agree. The best protest is simply not to watch. At the end of the day, movies and TV shows are a business, and they'll keep making bad content as long as it's profitable. As cliché as it sounds, 'all publicity is good publicity.' I had no plans to watch The Acolyte, but the only reason I did was out of curiosity after seeing all the hate toward it.

[@Observer29830]

@@Beghast-tv Isn't that a contradiction though? First you say that "bad reviews killed average-quality show", then you say that "all publicity is good publicity." So which is it? It got you to watch the show, sure, but for every person who got to watch because of bad publicity, a thousand were pushed away.

[@ShirleyTimple]

Aren't you adorable😅​@@Observer29830

[@undeadd666]

I am old enough to remember everyone hating the Clone Wars series (I always liked it because I love clones and we got a lot of lightsaber action there). When the clone wars ended and the Rebels started, suddenly many people have realized clone wars were great and not that childish all along, and were actually showing the unheroic and devastating side of all-out war on characters and regular people. Later on I was rewatching the Rebels with my wife to prepare her for Ahsoka, and I also realized even they weren’t that bad as the new live action shows, especially later seasons introducing more serious and dark themes. You definitely made me consider watching the Acolyte. I’m gonna skip ep 3 and 7 for my first (and probably the only) run. At least for the action scenes you showed. Those salty reviewers never showed them - probably on purpose.

[@NuttyV2]

1:52 boba fett himself is not on the show's poster. really shows how shitty it was.

[@thewooginator83]

Nope. We live in a world that chips away at the spare minutes of our lives. I'm just unwilling to give any of this garbage my undivided attention when there are so many better shows to dive into in the limited time we have. Andor is the notable and flat out awesome exception to this due to all of the amazing reasons you laid out in your other video. I've watched everything but Ahsoka and Acolyte and even though you make some compelling arguments which I and others are grateful for, I still won't waste my time on them. I'm not going to drop a one star review for something I haven't watched, but I'm going to protest the only way I know how: to utterly disregard it. Keep up the great work on reviews. I'd rather watch your positive spin than the actual show.

[@immersegrafx]

thank you for a review that isn't just "DISNEY MADE WOKE SHOW-- MASSIVE FAIL" it's refreshing to see actually good critique instead of political hateposting :]

[@geraldharrison500]

you dont get enough views on your videos man, theyre so well produced and thought out i love your channel

[@AFreakingAxeCH]

TBH, the Acolyte and the Mandoverse (Ahsoka, The Mandalorian and BoBF) as I would like to call it is indicative a larger problem within the creative of Star Wars and that is disingenuity. Disney will abide by their vision until box office (viewers or sales) or reviews speaks for the value of a show. This is seen with how the Mandoverse is desperately and selectively adapting Timothy Zahn's original Thrawn trilogy, a trilogy that fans adored, while also making the Acolyte, an original series. For me the biggest problem of Disney is to say the least, the lack of creative balls and creative foresight they have for the franchise, they, in equal parts, satisfies and disappoints the fans, evident on how they booted Colin Trevorrow as the director of Episode 9 just to have JJ back to "save" the Sequels because of how divisive The Last Jedi was. Another problem they really had from the get-go because of the lack of foresight is the fact, they de-canonized the entirety of what is now the Legends canon. Had they not done so, I believe that a baseline/template would have been made, basically parts of every single Legends source material, cherry picked to make a good show or movie, with show runners and directors picking what works for their vision and what doesn't....something like the MCU has done, to great effect and something they are now doing either because of desperation or because they are adapting and learning from mistakes of the past. The thing is Disney treated Star Wars as just another sci-fi property without examining it, this fully restricted them to the point where fans are expecting Star Wars that they expect and being presented with "a Star Wars". This makes the fans anxious rather than excited when something truly new comes that they will hold on to Boba Fett because it's recognizable.

[@LiraScarlet]

Gods, the vitriol in this comment section is... something. I considered myself a fan of Star Wars a long time ago, I stopped caring about the franchise after Solo made me want to die of boredom, but... I find your take... moderate? Thoughtful? I can't agree or disagree since I'm off the loop but I can't imagine your take deserves the hate displayed in some of the comments. Anyway, love your channel, keep doing what you do

[@Reiknar]

I really appreciate the balanced critique of the show you've provided here. I'm a hater, I suppose. I refuse to pay to watch anything from Disney ever again. I don't believe they will ever be willing to walk back what I feel are heinous mistakes in the three most recent movies, or the numerous problems I have with their TV Shows (same for MCU as for Star Wars for my money). For all that I dislike what they've done, if I am going to see reviews and hear about what horrible thing they've done now, I want to hear concise and reasonable arguments, and not just ranting. Nothing I've heard here makes me think I should revisit my decisions regarding Disney, that said, it's heartening to hear that not everything they're doing is trash, even if it still contains numerous phenomenally bad choices. I suspect many online are happy to dogpile on everything Disney puts out, just because of how bad it was before, regardless of possible merits in new content. And I get it, I really, really do. It's sort of a, "You were so awful, we just want you to stop. Any further success is unimportant, we want you to fail at this point. Maybe that can get the IP transferred to someone who might be able to fix things." - many fans of the Star Wars of yore no longer care what Disney might do, they just want them to stop. I'm in that camp myself, but I wouldn't watch current content just to pan it. I would love for Disney to jettison Star Wars (I really don't see that ever happening, no matter how poorly they may bomb with it). But I don't want that enough that I would actively work towards it as a goal. In a similar trend, recently CrunchyRoll, a streaming service which offers a broad selection of anime, removed the ability to leave reviews of shows or comments on episodes. A lot of viewers were upset about this and put up topics on Reddit suggesting they just use the existing Star system CrunchyRoll still maintains, to voice that displeasure given that CR had effectively taken away their voice. Their method for doing this was to just rate every show with 1 star. I have not noticed any perceptible affect from this so far, quite possibly not nearly enough viewers are doing this overall, most of them are probably unaware of those conversations on Reddit. However it's effectively the same thing you're talking about towards the end of the video here. A fan base that feels disenfranchised and ignored, attempting to make their opinions known in the only way they can imagine the purveyor might respond to. The more I think on these things, the more I'm unsure how I feel about them. All in all, thank you for this video!

[@pavlemarjanovic1896]

Meh, i watched it for the fights. I couldn't stand the story. There was a legends story where there were two twins that were jedi. One of them chose to become became a sith. Through the story they were at odds with each other and there was a moment that i really liked. Spoiler for the story... They were both fighting in a war, but on opposite sides. The *sith* twin *killed* his *brother* who was a jedi. When he killed his brother he felt *grief* over his death. He hated that he killed the person that he loved. His family. In the deciding moment of the war he chose to help the jedi and *turned back to the light* . I guess i expected something like that from this series, but i guess not. It's a shame really.

[@sewage1510]

I appreciate your thoughtful video. I agree with your sentiment that the cancellation of this series feels like a door to future prospects and possibilities my have been closed for good. That's a very sad thought to me. The Acolyte was a series I was looking forward to with guarded optimism. I wanted to see an original Star Wars story that was free to venture beyond the prohibitive trappings of the Skywalker Saga. Star Wars is a universe that is brimming with infinite story potential. Like many, as the story of the Acolyte unfolded I became more and more frustrated with how fundamentally flawed the writing was. Please don't simply rationalize this away. Writing is absolutely EVERYTHING!!! Most of your praise and enthusiasm for the show seemed to stem from the wonderful fight choreography. I absolutely agree with you that one of the few highlights of the show were the action sequences but flashy fight scenes mean nothing without a compelling and intelligently written story to back it up. The underlying impression I got in watching this show was that the writer/showrunner/whatever, Leslye Headland, tried to humanize the Sith at the expensive of utterly DEMONIZING the Jedi. To me, that was a massive and stupid mistake. The majority of the Jedi were depicted as brash, impulsive, arrogant, undisciplined, impatient, combative, deceitful, manipulative... For a show that featured so many Jedi I felt like they were all imposters. This writing choice came off as cheap, lazy and highly upsetting. Master Torbin in particular was an utter buffoon, with nearly all of the Jedi bereft of the intrinsic wisdom and insight honed by what was supposed to be a lifetime of devotion and training at an early age. I did not recognize the Jedi in this show. The careless way in which they were written made them come across more like 2 dimensional caricatures for the sole purpose of facilitating Headland's asinine attempt to "subvert" what we thought we knew about the dichotomy between Jedi and Sith. Perhaps in the hands of a more skillful and intelligent writer this might have succeeded, but not with her garbage writing. I'm going to just stop here. There are too many frustrating moments in this show I'd rather not retread, especially since it has been covered in thousands of videos ad nauseam. P.S. Do yourself a favor and watch CLONE WARS. Not only will you appreciate the characters in Ahsoka much more but you will come to realize that Clone Wars was the last major project that in which George Lucas had direct involvement. So much of that series offers a rich tapestry of world building. The first 1 or 2 seasons are a bit hit and miss but from season 3 on it hits its stride. Truly wonderful series and it will make you come to love and appreciate Ahsoka. Watch the damn show!

[@Komainu959]

What the author seems to forget is that the Acolyte gets so much hate because it is chronologically the last entry that a fan base had to endure. The more you endure something the less tolerance you have as it's been chipped away to finally you're at the point that even if something...say the Acolyte...is just meh, you have no tolerance for meh already. You can see the opposite of this in built up goodwill. MCU fans have stuck around because they had a huge amount of goodwill built up. It took many flops to erode that fan base and heck they're still doing ok but trust me, another few hard flops and even those die hards will break. Star Wars will not be helped with tolerable material, heck even pretty good material in something like Andor wasn't enough to reset the base. It will take several "good" to "very good" entries to turn things around.

[@Duny645]

I loved a lot of chunks of Acolyte. I wish it had gotten a second season where they could have improved the structure and writing.

[@magliadoro]

I read all the hate and decided to watch it for myself and actually enjoyed it. I'm really disappointed that it's been cancelled.

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[@pavlemarjanovic1896]

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[@Novek-tv]

Love your videos man!

[@TheMisadventuresofBuffWally]

Having just found your channel, I really like your reviews! I Don't know if you planned on doing one, but I would love to hear your take on the New vs Old and overall thoughts on Cowboy Bebop. Regardless, I look forward to the next! Thank you!

[@cal7447]

My biggest fear is some hopelessly out-of-touch Disney suit would learn the completely wrong lesson here and go "see, high production value and next-level choreography got us nowhere, let's not do those anymore"

[@dado8467]

Wtf is up with the amount of negativity in the comment section? And with the low views!?! Anyway yeah, I find the Acolyte pretty MEH, but imo the outrage was unjustified. It was literally just meh. Also people keep shittin on dysney's star wars, and while I do get that more times than not the new stuff is underwhelming (at best), but we also had things like rogue one, the end of TCW, Bad batch and Andor, that I think are among the best pieces of Star Wars media there are. The singing section and those two episodes made me cry blood, and many things were just awkward, but the fight scenes had no business being that good, and the Sith guy was one of the coolest things I've ever seen. Also you are right, al the deaths of the characters were totally unexpected, end helped build the sense of absolute menace of the Siths. I really, really hope that Disney or whoever menages to transplant this kind of fight scenes in other series. It would be cool if that was the new standard.

[@sardaukerlegion]

Not the Fans, Disney's incompetence killed Star Wars.

[@janjanbinks1710]

Back when it was still airing some people called me an "Elitist" for saying that maybe this show could take a page or two from Andor's book. I didn't mean it as "I want all Star Wars to BE Andor" , I just want it to be made with the same level of effort and care that Andor got. Heck the closest thing in Star Wars to the Acolyte in my opinion is the Knights Of the Old Republic duology, I wish it was even as half good and interesting as KOTOR was. KOTOR introduced moral ambiguity to the Jedi and Sith, especially the second game. This show is just.... Mid. It's not a trainwreck, it's not gloriously bad, it doesn't deserve your anger, it's not worthy of it. It evokes nothing in me but a "meh" and a feeling of missed potential. I give it an Influence lost: Kreia out of 10. Perhaps a second season would've helped its case but we may never know. It makes me feel uncomfortably numb and kinda bored. Like it sure is wars in the star. One of the shows of all time. I don't even have it in me to hate it

[@maxpower3990]

If all it evokes is a “Meh” as you said that is the most damming indictment of it. As we all know, “Apathy is Death”.

[@janjanbinks1710]

@maxpower3990 Worse than death. At least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects

[@paul_j_b]

Yes, I think the ratings comparison between The Acolyte and its sister series is a good one because it demonstrates that while self-styled 'hardcore fans' will mostly tolerate a show that gives them only a meagre portion of what they want, they will start frothing at the mouth at the idea that a show might be giving so-called 'fake fans' something that *they* might enjoy. The fact that The Acolyte had excellent choreography (including the genuinely innovative step of finally including wirework in a franchise that has always borrowed liberally from eastern cinema) and hinted at the kind of deep Sith lore that forum lurkers have been begging for since KOTOR is irrelevant, because the showrunners publicly committed the one true unforgivable sin of theorising a Star Wars universe that might not be exclusively designed for the edification of a single type of person. That said, in my heart of hearts I know this is all puréed content slop for babies pumped out by Disneycorp at a rate that strains credulity, and we should probably all go outside and/or read a book.

[@tonysee9170]

good video. maybe i'll actually give acolyte a watch. twins switching sides like that was such a cool idea and the sith is so cool it's too bad it sounds like they messed it up. guess i'll have to see it for myself

[@sgtrock6283]

Thanks for the review! Like history its best reviewed after the dust settles.

[@kaison12205]

Bro, the uncomfortable truth is that Star Wars fans, see minorities, and women and assume something’s gonna be bad and then will just consider it bad and not really engage with the media once it’s released. You may say that I am being unfair and generalizing, but this is overwhelmingly what I have noticed since 2015.

[@GregMerrill]

As an old who fell in love with Star Wars episode 4 on the big screen I have witnessed a long decline in the universe with some sadness. 4,5,6 were a phenomenal trilogy showing the arc of a classic hero as he faces himself and the complicated relationship with those around him. 1/2/3 felt like a cheap imitation written by someone out of ideas. I still watched them but with less enthusiasm 7/8/9 nearly drove me to despair with how they mangled the relationships and the universe, but I still saw them on the big screen. I felt a glimmer of hope with rogue 1. Not of the same caliber of 4/5/6 but solid, a darker, grittier movie showing another side of the fight. With Mandolorian I felt like an abused spouse no longer being hit. Just the lack of abuse was refreshing. But then it went downhill into a boring video game style quest for the next Mcguffin I didn’t even watch Obiwan because the reviews were mixed. Boba Fett? He was like a side character in his own series! With Andor I felt a renewed hope as season 1 was stunningly excellent. Yeah Star Wars is back baby! (I enjoyed your video on it btw) Now, I feel just done with it. Meh They’ve burned through my happy nostalgia and goodwill to the point I am now initially suspicious instead of excited.

[@austinsandel]

Have your concerns with the prequels, but without them the saga wouldn't be the same. George knew what he was doing and thanks to him 1 2 and 3 shine in comparison to the sequel trilogy. The nostalgia obviously isn't the same, but a lot of what we got (prequels) is what makes star wars awesome.

[@Alex20towed]

I prefer the prequels to the originals to be honest 😂 I think it just depends on which films you grew up with

[@GregMerrill]

@@Alex20towed I can see that, as Lucas was still there and keeping the story going within the theme of the Star Wars universe he created. I think as I see more and more IP's 'reimagined', I now consider that a major red flag to be suspicious of the quality of the new movie / series.

[@ianmaher8908]

Unfortunately having watched Rebels and the Clone Wars doesn't give (much) more context to Ahsoka. You know who the characters are, but they often (specifically Sabine and Ahsoka) act rather out of character and extremely different to when we last saw them. Sabine & Ahsoka's big fight TM was never on screen, nor was any real aspect of their relationship, so it was really confusing that they just went "yeah they trained and then fought" and never get shown anything. Anyways, great review! I still haven't finished Acolyte but I've heard some people talk about how it didn't deserve so much of it's hate, and I really appreciate the calm critique as others have said. Maybe I'll finish it for the fights and perhaps not watch 3 & 7.

[@LisanAlGareeb]

Ah so your saying acolyte is the best of the worst? Maybe you're right but will not subject myself to other shows you mentioned to check. Great video as always, thank you for your hard work.

[@Suertidofish]

You can just watch the fight scenes on KZbin, those are suprisingly good.

[@LisanAlGareeb]

@@Suertidofish thanks. I'll definitely check them out

[@noneofyourbusiness5326]

So, the Acolyte failed on the two most critical episodes of the Series, which were to give us an explanation for the guilt and shame that all the Jedi supposedly felt, both to welcome suicide, become a hermit and/or to accept an execution at the hands of student who is evil. Make it make sense. The Jedi did nothing to be guilty or ashamed of. The witches died in the act of threatening and overwhelming the Jedi.

[@katakesh8566]

23:55 yes because it was privately owned and not at the will of executives only in it for profit. A thing that fans still complain about. People still hate Lucas for daring to do what he wanted with his creation. Its not a strong argument my guy

[@teamminecraft04]

This show had so much potential, I love the concept and the sith is such a cool character and I was hoping to see what part darth plagius would play but like you said the lack of care killed the show, a lot of stuff went against cannon. Claiming a Jedi only draws their weapon to kill is far from the truth, lightsabers are used a flashlights a decent amount, and the fact that the twins were born of the force ruins anikin being the chosen one as his whole thing is he was born of the force

[@MoonGoblin]

It did deserve it and this makes me happy and genuinely hopeful that we as a community have the power to push back against the slop they're churning out. I haven't finished watching Ahsoka, but the first couple episodes are at least not awful which is good since I loved Rebels. Book of Boba Fett and Obi Wan I wish hadn't been made because I've liked those characters since I was a kid and they deserve better. Andor was good. Tales of the Jedi/Sith was amazing. Star Wars Visions, while not canon (what an idiotic decision) was outstanding. The last season of Mandalorian was really disappointing because the first two seasons were so good. Bad Batch was pretty solid, not outstanding but no real issues either and told its story well. Honestly, it's at the point where if I see a new live action Star Wars show or movie is coming out, I expect it to not only be bad, but to piss all over the characters and universe that has been built up through all previous media. I don't know why, but animated star wars just tends to be so much better. Andor and the first season or two of Mando are the exceptions. The only bad animated star wars I can think of is Resistance, but at least that treated the universe with respect.

[@ichauch110]

I think rather now more Star Wars should be produced. The fan base is so toxic that there is actually no artistic freedom. With this kind of cancel culture you just have to start over with something new, which Star Wars did as it started. Its over.

[@Beghast-tv]

@@ichauch110 I disagree. I think Andor is the perfect counterexample. A proof that excellent Star Wars content can still be produced without compromising artistic freedom. It's very different from the rest of the movies and shows to date and has been very well received by fans. The fan base wouldn't be so toxic if they made good content. I think it's that simple!

[@ichauch110]

@@Beghast-tv really? I have seen so much worse. I liked Andor too. Most of star wars movies are bad.

[@FJ_0609]

The Shows arent Horrible but if you are used to good Shows they just fall flat, and if you are a fan of that franchise it just hurts more.

[@marscaleb]

I'm still waiting for someone to make an honest comparison of the Star Wars shows, but include the old Droids cartoons for comparison. Apart from that, I think I can say is that I hope Disney doesn't take this as a sign that people don't want Star Wars shows without pre-existing characters. I've been wanting an Old Republic series ever since Episode 3 hit theaters, I really hope the Acolyte isn't their only foray into that setting.

[@JustTouchCards]

Loved Qimir's story and character, and the Jedi background corruption was potentially interesting, but the entire mystery of the Jedi masters and the coven was not at all a mystery and the "twist" was very obvious. I thought Season 2 was going to have some serious potential since the plotline I didn't like was already done, but I guess now I'll never know.

[@sebastianrivero8480]

Great video

[@johndotcue]

It’s definitely a meh show at best, like 5/10 type of shit. The people who were raging about it are acting as if it’s a 1/10 or a 0/10 show, which isn’t really. I think it’s just Star Wars fans being salty because it’s not as good as anything else, plus the hatred Disney gets nowadays. Deservedly so.

[@Hwarming]

I think the main issue with Acolyte isn't the show itself, which yeah, isn't really good either, but the fact that Disney is just throwing this at us over and over again, telling us that we have to like this or we're some form of -ist, instead of listening to fans to see what we actually want. Andor is the best Star Wars show and it's barely even Star Wars, it's an engaging story with interesting characters and a really good plotline and great acting. Obi Wan was something on the surface to be what fans wanted, but then was filled with awful acting, storylines we didn't want and didn't really make sense, a really unlikable villain(that we were told we shouldn't hate or we're -ist). Apparently Skeleton Crew is pretty good, but Disney needs to take a step back and really think about what they want to do with Star Wars, because what they're doing isn't working and people are just tired of it

[@ComCommie]

A large part of the starwars community just is racist and bigoted when it comes to these shows. The majority of fans are just normal and like or dislike the shows as to their quality, but in being a loud minority the bigots tend to use well meaning critiques in order to hide behind them whenever their bigotry gets called out. This show was hated because of its cast and the people behind it in general, not because of their merit. The fact that this show was mid was only the catalyst that allowed for that section of the fanbase to use the general feeling of fan fatigue to their advantage to reviewbomb this show and coincidentallly "convert" parts of the fanbase because "this showed they were right". This is not to say you can't or shouldn't critique starwars, or that you're a bigot for doing so, but unless we keep calling out those bigots the fandom isn't going to get better, and disney will keep using them as an exscuse to not write better content.

[@noneofyourbusiness5326]

Why would a Jedi, armed with a light saber, stoop to hand-to-hand combat??? That is not Star Wars. Nor does it make sense. Never bring a knife to a light saber fight. And please justify for me the stupid Wookie light saber fight.

[@brandonver-non7573]

Seems like they really wanted to do the twin troupe, failing to realize SWTOR did it...and better

[@akumaking1]

Disney destroyed so many franchises

[@grimisnice6195]

Ngl, two members of the competition still suck ASS. Book of boba fett is actually terrible, and It would have benefited from not being about Boba Fett at all. The guy was useless. And Obi-wan, while ok with EPIC lightsaber fights, at its core, it is just a powerful jedi warrior being bossed about by a twelve year-old girl

[@zhade3967]

300 views after 15 hours???

[@coolcycles]

So it's official: Andor is not Star Wars 🤪🤣

[@wisdommanari6701]

Was this better than Ahsoka. Yeah I think so.

[@DumbguyMc]

ive really gotta give andor a try. Personally i dropped all new starwars after mandalorian stopped being a space western. pulled a supernatural and went with this wider narrative thing when i liked the stupid simple mostly episodic scope.

[@Deqnkata]

"its totally mediocre and average and you can totally skip a quarter of the episodes and it has terrible writing but it has fun action with the glow-y sticks" Yeah ... i wonder why people did not like this one :D Saying the other shows were not good does not make this one any better. I can see it having "review bombing" but if you judge things based on a review number on some site nowdays you are probably the target audience for this kind of slop. The score of it being 20 or 30 or 50% doesnt change its quality one bit. The amount of nonsense going on in this show was literally off the charts with the "characters" flipping 180 in an instant based on the "writers" whims.

[@saopescao]

Another video let's goo !!

[@ryantruman6956]

I couldn't bring myself to care about a single character after episode 1. Once they killed (spoiler) Carrie-Ann Moss's character in the first 2 seconds of the show, I groaned and said "Cool now we're probably going to get some weirdly paced back and forth past/present exposition and she'll only show up in flashbacks". I was unfortunately correct - bit of a waste of an excellent actor, and a sophomoric way to try to string audiences along. Continuity issues were annoying also. The general pervasive disregard for the source material gave me the same feeling the Sequel Trilogy did: The mouse was whispering "Ha-Ha!?" in my ear every 30 seconds, and I don't like it. Again, this feels like it was made by a high schooler, but the draft was cooked up in a boardroom. In Andor, as Beghast correctly mentioned in his video on the subject, there is no second guessing motivations or intentions because of how amazing the 'Show, Don't Tell' is. This show tries to create on-demand intrigue by intentionally obscuring information from the audience, but in a way that just doesn't get us to care about it. "Great, I have no stakes." A show should have you saying "I'm in." by the end of episode 1. I was actually physically saying "I'm out" in the first 5 minutes - but I watched it anyway because I still have some stupid hope that Disney is going to turn this ship around. (Ob1 pun aside) I agree on the objective quality of the lightsaber fights, but if I want to see cool lightsaber choreography, I'll go watch a fan film. I need to give a damn about SOMEONE in the show.

[@wonkywombat12]

I thought the show as a show was sub par, but the things that were sub par were sub par in a fairly uninteresting way. nothing shocking, just poor writing really. but I really liked that it was finally expanding what Disney was willing to do with the Star Wars IP. doing some old republic shit was really cool to me, because that could be a really interesting area for them to explore (ideally in better written shows). and I really hope that the digital shrieking that went on isn't going to completely destroy any chances of more of that happening. but I'm unfortunately not optimistic. it frustrates me to no end when people hate a bad piece of media for a really stupid reason. like, yeah there's a black woman in the show. who gives a shit. how are people having such dumb criticisms of it that somehow I end up in the position of defending a such deeply mediocre show. because like, yeah the show isn't good, but it has fucking nothing to do with the reason that a huge portion of the people that were angry with it had for being angry with it.

[@rossyboy1980]

Episode 2 of Boba Fett was so bad it made me give up on the franchise. If all the one-off seasons you mention as equally as meh, then it feels like I made the right decision.

[@FaunoAtelie]

Awesome video as always. Please don't promote better help anymore tho, always important to do research before accepting sponsorship deals

[@Patriots017]

I feel for everything the show does well, it does two or three other things just flat badly. Not to mention the numerous other blunders done since Disney got its grimy Mickey gloves on Star Wars. The show was just the tipping point. A few horrific movies, a few more painful shows, cancelled things, then this show comes up and is just a resounding "ugh" with a little extra cringe sprinkled in. Some cool fights don't make up for the rest of the show being a steamy turd. Remember the end of Rouge One? Remember how universally loved that scene by itself is, let alone the rest of the movie? Do more of that. It's not that hard to understand. Cool fights, unapologetic bad guys, a gritty story, and a raw world is all that long standing Star Wars fans want.

[@xtrafunk]

solid take. I also enjoyed parts of this show, including the concept, storytelling devices, setting and fight choreography... and I legit hope qimir gets a chance to return to screen because he was a standout. but unfort the main characters of osha/mae were a straight flop and the much touted rashomon-esque unreliable narration was just completely wasted to the point I'm legit shocked they'd even try to sell it during various interviews. the theories everyone came up with speculating about the show were 10x better than the show itself

[@TheCarroke]

Interesting point of view!

[@DaneEast-rc8rm]

I never got past the middle of the show (Acolyte.) I agree, though, there were some nice things here and there. I really liked the fight at the start of the first episode. I liked the idea of a Wookiee forest jedi (why kill the poor jedi without using it?) Yes, the tracker alien was fun, but why not use their jedi senses? It's such a big part of past SW movies that Jedi sense things. Some very nice lightsaber fights, I agree. Overall, the tale of two sisters were just boring to watch, they seemed 2 dimensional, and while I have watched all of the previous SW Disney+ shows (even re-watched Andor and some of the Mandalorian, and I plan to rewatch Ashoka one day) I doubt that I'll go back and watch the rest of the Acolyte, and one thing is for sure I'm NEVER rewatching the Obi-Wan Kenobi series (the worst Disney+ SW series so far in my opinion,) and probably never rewatching Boba Fett either. Had the Acolyte come out before I watched the not-so-good SW shows I'd probably have watched it all, but the more bad SW shows I watch the faster a new show have to catch my attention and convince me that it's worthwhile. Lets face it, there are just so many MUCH better shows you can spend time on these day, even if you love SW.

[@noxafax]

You know, i haven’t seen the Acolyte because of the bad reviews and the sheer amount of shit they talked about it, after seeing this video I think I will give it a try. I edit this comment with my review when I finish it

[@def3ndr887]

Please just watch Arcane, Arcane is everything Acolyte isn’t which is everything

[@Deqnkata]

Where is the review? :)

[@the.Aruarian]

I'm honestly waiting for a good fan edit of the Acolyte, pretty much every Star Wars media (besides Andor) after the OG trilogy has been great improved by the hands of fans. I mentally checked out of the Acolyte in episode 3 - I absolute detest most child acting. It was even worse in comparison after just having watched the His Dark Materials HBO series. I tried watching episode 4 afterwards, but I just couldn't maintain any sort of interest.

[@dedrxbbit7549]

I know that The Acolyte is the exception to this comment, but what I’m so sick and tired of with these Disney TV series is that they keep introducing new characters who survived Order 66. It takes away from the impact of how one insanely evil person manipulated the state of the universe to bend to his own will, wiping out everything and everyone who stood against him in his path to total domination. By wiping out the Jedi to extinction and searching for the next force sensitive beings and having them killed is impactful. The Inquisitors are also an exception, minus Reeva. Are we seriously supposed to believe that a random ex-Jedi who Vader was SUPPOSED to have killed and accidentally left alive is gonna be okay with Sidious? Vader would have been punished AFTER Sidious would have told him to finish the job he should have completed 15 years ago (or whatever the timeline is, I don’t remember quite frankly). Another exception to my distain for this narrative would be Grogu. It would make sense that he survived. Yoda’s race was severely limited in numbers and we know that he and Yadel were given permission to have a child so that their race could grow. The time when he was born would have been just before The Phantom Menace, and he would have been placed on CONSTANT watch to make sure he was safe and secure. For him to be constantly pawned off to the next person to stay alive makes sense. The Empire being on his tail makes sense too. If Sidious knew Grogu was part of Yoda’s race, of course Sidious would want Grogu alive so he could clone himself. Also, I’m not against Palpatine wanting to clone himself. We know from legends that this is what he wanted because he has an argument with Plagueis about it. Plagueis was against it because it altered the natural order of things, whereas Palpatine saw it as something along the same lines as Voldemort with horcruxes: a means to an end for total imortality. However, I do NOT like the direction Disney went with this idea in the Sequels. They made it seem like he was just making a Palpatine factory so he could have an army of himself. That’s not what he actually wanted. Plus, that leaves MAJOR loose ends in all of the other movies. Disney just has a bad time of going “oh this would be cool! But it doesn’t match this other thing we did….oh well, we’ll figure it out later.”

[@EldritchPink101]

Why does this channel get a lot of views a video and the next one doesn’t? It’s weird

[@shagrat47]

It's kind of a hypocrisy to blame the audience for "not watching" a show, that clearly lacked the audience interested in it. If Disney had done some thorough market research, they should have noticed that there's a lack of interest in the product? Like blaming the children in a kindergarden for not eating lunch, as you decided Broccoli and spinach with whole grain bread is a good choice.😮

[@corn.3892]

You don't have to watch if you don't like it. OMG, you have stopped watching, you are killing Star Wars!!!!

[@Antonfwp]

i get the point but the analogy is sooo bad. broccoli and other unprocessed food is still great for children. but this new crap is as processed and unhealthy as it gets.

[@totalCoolerUsername]

​@@Antonfwp+ it's only learned behavior, if the kids wouldn't be spoiled in the first place, they would have no problem with that

[@datguy3581]

Except they didn’t. I have not yet seen any evidence that Disney or Lucasfilm blames people for not continuing the series. The only statements they’ve made were specifically about condemning harassment directed at actors.

[@datguy3581]

@@corn.3892But when did anyone at Lucasfilm actually use that argument? The thing is from what I can tell, there’s no evidence to suggest they’re mad at critics. They’ve criticized people who harass their actresses but that’s different than criticism.

[@Cynddelw]

Get rid of the twins and the coven. Make the show about Qimir and it would have been a decent show.

[@andrewpaull7485]

I had huge expectaions for the series & could see potential even after watching it if they couldve only executed better. But they fell into the same misteps as other shows with poor handling of characters & messy story direction/writing. On paper all these shows should have been clear winners for the audience, so there needs to be accountability with creators. One of the biggest takeaways i feel watching is the rushed nature of storytelling/dialouge. Nothing really has enough time for growth & loses a lot of weight as a result. Maybe give more time for arcs to develop with 12 episodes like Andor had instead of 8

[@wudz_fpv]

Maybe if, oh, I dunno, the show was actually like... good? Then maybe more people would have watched it? Just a thought.

[@noneofyourbusiness5326]

**sigh**. So, your premise is to compare the Acolyte to the other really bad Star Wars TV dramas? You didn't want to cmpare it to actual Star Wars (aka the original trilogy)? Low bar to give to the Acolyte. "Yeah, it was bad, but compared to the other bad shows it was the best of the bad."

[@User-qi5ef]

Didnt rewatch andor smh

[@cgreen7157]

Critics (at least to a limited extent) positively review bombed it while some customers negatively review bombed it (though maybe some of those customers really were just fed up with Star Wars). Cinephiles and KZbinrs have a hard tome believing this, but most people don't look at the reviews before watching a show, especially a 'made for TV' series. Most people simply watch the trailer, or the first episode, and decide if they want to keep watching. While the negative customer reviews had some impact, they didn't sink the show. Star Wars has been on a steady viewership decline since season 3 of Mandalorian (in terms of Disney+ series).

[@MrHellknightimp]

Your videos never show up on my sub feed, who did you piss off at KZbin?

[@def3ndr887]

Just watch Arcane Edit: according to some comments people are hating on this video (I didn’t see any of that) but to clarify I commented not to hate but pointing out in a satirical way that Arcane wipes the floor against this -money laundering scheme- show

[@CelsiusFacts]

I feel like you're leaning too heavily on playing the contrarian card, even though you do identify the root issues. I’ve only watched up to Episode 3, and right from the first scene, I was rolling my eyes at the clichéd Matrix-style fight and the stupid death. The premise is very weak, why only target the Jedi? Where’s the gravity in that? The backstory doesn’t justify the revenge plot, and the writing is riddled with issues. I also can’t stand the green lady maybe because she just comes off as a modern bald woman with green paint. Plus, you fell into the trap of blaming the fans or the haters, this only gets amplified with a bad show. Honestly, it’s no surprise this got review-bombed, but you miss the real crucial factor that just didn’t watch it. That’s something all fans should celebrate voting for change with your wallets and your watch time! Also in summary you say dont watch half of the episodes and see the jedi fight, this isnt a great show worth watching especially when it breaks lore. As for other shows it has better star wars paint, they also seem more consistent even if it's just meh & in the case of Ashoka it's supported by previous lore.

[@nilox4037]

The fandom gave Lukas Films a chance after Episode One. It gave disney a chance too. But they blew it again and again. If they would improve after each one it would be okay. Its imposible to make something like the originals again. But they shat on the franchise over and over and now many people just want to see them burn. Me included. If you ask me disney cant deliver somthing good. Endor is a very good show but it was burried under the hat for "The Book of Boba Fett" (Which was horendesly bad) and the other shows. So nobody exepct the hardcore fans and the hatewatchers have seen it. That is why star wars is done and we need a reset or another pause like after episode 3.

[@DiamondKingStudios]

I consider myself a more casual fan, and since my family had a Disney+ subscription I got to see _Andor_ and I found it to be better than the other streaming originals on there. Shame that it stands alone, though.

[@noneofyourbusiness5326]

And can you please explain to je the obese Jedi???

[@liftedlarry]

Watched up until the point you blamed the fans... STUPID

[@Beghast-tv]

What part was that?

[@Reiknar]

Then you weren't paying attention and should have kept watching. He didn't blame fans, He did point out how harassing actors and actresses in the show isn't helpful and isn't something fans should do. He did say he felt the show was review bombed to achieve negative results. That would mean he felt people reviewed it without really watching it or giving it a chance, which given his own assessment of the show, particularly episode 3, that seems very likely. Had I watched it, I'm someone who likely would have checked out at that point and left a negative review. Kudos to Beghast for giving it more of a chance than I have, or would have if I had watched it. This sort of review is a perfect example of fair and balanced. The world needs more critique like this and less hate fueled nerdrage or holier than thou wokerage.

[@foolndrool]

is this some elaborate bait?

[@AKATenn]

The fans didn't kill the show, the writers of the show killed it by not doing enough market research to figure out what the fans would tolerate. the problem is when people get a hold of a franchise, and don't realize they don't own it, they are custodians of it, and if they treat it poorly, they will lose their fanbase and kill it, it's like a living thing, and if you don't feed it the right proverbial foods, and check it for parasites and infections, it will die. it's not the fans fault, they're not the ones who are responsible for its well-being. disney has been mistreating their franchises, both ones they created and ones they inherited, it should not be any wonder why they're losing fans.

[@Keith-b4v]

So should creators compromise their vision on behalf of what fans want?

[@AKATenn]

@Keith-b4v creators should understand the difference between making a product that they mean to sell, and not caring if what they make sells or not. If they're making something for someone else, then yes, they need to compromise their own vision to make sure that it sells, and if they're making it purely for their own selfish desires, then they should be understanding when it fails to sell. Nobody is obligated to buy anything, ever, for any reason, and it doesn't make anyone a bad person for any reason ever if they don't buy it.

[@Keith-b4v]

@@AKATenn That's not how art works. You think George Lucas compromised his vision to make Star Wars despite the fact that Fox producers wanted to make their own interpretation just to make money? If that were the case, then we would not have Empire Strikes Back. Even when the fans complained about the prequels, we still got ROTS (as flawed as it was) and the Clone Wars out of it. More likely fans need to manage their expectations and asking creators to conform to their standards, otherwise we will never have any real art.

[@AKATenn]

@Keith-b4v star wars is a product, when you make a product, consistency and quality is key. The goal is always to keep the customer coming back, that's how products work. Art is not always a product, it can be a 1-off, it doesn't need to be consistent, it doesn't need to be quality. Art CAN be a product, you could say that making something consistent and of quality that the general audience will like and buy is a form of art in and of itself.

[@Keith-b4v]

@@AKATenn The big difference between art and product is heart. With art someone puts their time and effort into something, and it shows, a product is just there to make money and that's all that fans seem to care about, so don't be surprised when Disney keeps giving you products instead of art. Examples of this the Matrix Trilogy is Art, the Matrix Resurrections product, Transformers One art, Bayformers product, Indian Jones Trilogy is art, Dial of Destiny is product, Joker is art, Joker Folie A Deux is product.

[@datguy3581]

Has anyone at Lucasfilm actually spoke negatively about the audience? Because from what I’ve seen, they’ve just talked about harassment they’ve received and about toxic trends in fandom. They haven’t made generalizations about the fandom. It feels like people are just mad that the actresses didn’t stay quiet about the racist abuse that was sent their way.

[@alexneff]

Ok we gave you gave you chance but your still going in the sarlack pit

[@bennygerow]

20:53 alright, gotta stop ya here. I found the show so bad that it was unwatchable. I later saw plenty of long form vids which dissect every issue with the plot holes, bad acting, bland and meme level characters, and compete disregard for SW canon among a plethora of other things. Review bombs happen, but they're not why something is bad as a product.

[@thedeluxembourg]

Its seems to me like your conclusion assumes that the show was cancelled due to bad reviews rather than lack of viewership. I think its more likely that Disney cancelled it because they couldn’t justify the cost based on viewership numbers. The show failed more due to apathy than active hatred imo. I think you somewhat agreed with me when you mentioned the competiton factor. I see no reason to use my time with a 5/10 show according to you. I have never watched the show nor do I really plan to, i cancelled my disney+ subscription after i watched boba fett (which i thought was truly a horrendous show) and the third season of the mandalorian which i simply found boring. I and many others are already past the point of giving Disney Star Wars another chance because we’ve already done that too often and been burned. You know the old saying: “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me.”

[@Tk-427]

Sometimes companies reluctantly give fans a new setting but now they have a diversity quota to meet, especially since they’re all new characters. I get what you’re saying about the same tired old characters and yeah it would be nice to get something new. They really made a point to hit people over the head with the whole “diversity” thing and that’s most likely what the review bombing was about. The Sith guy and the guy that learned English specifically for this role was the highlight of this woman packed show funny enough.

[@Minifeta]

Although i didn't like the first season of Acolyte i do feel the cancelation was a loss of potential. Also kinda sad the first appearance of Darth Plagueis was used for this

[@def3ndr887]

After hearing of that scene I legitimately think it’s better we cut our losses right here and now

[@Burns_RED]

Your confusion stems from that you see these activist mouthpieces as characters, when that was never the intent when they were created and written.

[@undergroundsoul94]

There were many, MANY bad faith reviews of this show. There's no doubt of that. The tragic part is so much vitriol was dedicated to such a mediocre show that Disney just nuked it. Any chance of Acolyte getting better was dashed. I liked the potential of the story, but the clunky writing and weird pacing ruined it for me. I'm also so tired of these 6-8 episode seasons that force all characterization and exposition to be condensed to the point of narration. You can tell from Acolyte's immediate cancellation that Disney will go right back to rehashing old lore and making shows based off movies that already came out. (Regardless of how good Andor is, it is squarely based off events from OT, so I don't count the events as anything really NEW for Star Wars.)

[@BigFruity]

You don't get it. It's Not about how Bad the Show is, hell, the Clone wars wasn't a good Show. It is about whether the Show actually follows the lore. It is about whether it respects the original Material, respects the Fans. And all the other Shows do that, even If they are Bad, Star Wars Fans Like it. But the Acolyte didn't, it was a horrible Show, and middle finger to all Star Wars Fans, and it destroyed established lore.

[@Syn_Slater]

You sound like one of those nerds back in the day who would goto star trek movies with graph paper, and then complaing it's impossible for the enterprise to go from here to there at that warp speed. 😂 if you make a good product no one cares about the lore. Two examples, the joker and the boys.

[@user-wv6xj9wn5b]

It doesn't break lore any more than the clone wars did. You will disagree but it's actually true. The acolyte doesn't break cannon it is telling you what is cannon. Comparing lore from legends to cannon will obviously be different. For example What is an "ark trooper". Guess what. That breaks cannon by your logic. Originally in legends there was no such thing as "ark troopers" only "arks" and they are quite different. No-one cared when that, And a lot more, Was changed throughout all of Star wars. But they do care when ki adi mundis birthday changes??? People use this logic of going against lore as a scapegoat. An excuse for hate. Acolyte is on par with Ashoka, Kenobi, and even Mando season 3!!!! That being said it's not great at all just sub par.

[@BigFruity]

@@Syn_Slater The product with any Franchise is its Lore. That is the single Product that is being sold. Saying that the Lore and the Product don't matter to each other, doesn't make any sense. Two comics, you are making it hard for yourself. The cool thing about comics is that you can always make up new lore with the same characters. You can just say that it is a different universe. That is also why we can make endless amounts of joker and batman movies. The same goes for all the stuff with Marvel. The Boys, isn't a good comic, it is so bad that before the show came out few people knew it. So there isn't any resistance when changing up the story. You also have to keep in mind that there is a difference between adaptations and movie born franchises. Adaptations of books or comics usually differ from the source material, also to make it more interesting, and because you rarely can adapt something one to one, it just doesn't work. But in the most cases that also just applies for the story, not for the rules of the universe. And even if they change those, they stay the same within the Movie adaptations. Now with the current Star Wars situation, none of that is the case, it is not an adaptation, it is a continuation of the already established franchise that was born as a Movie. So you cannot differ from the source material, or actually you can do that. There is a little trick comic makers used when making Star Wars comics that go off the rails with the lore. They just called it STAR WARS LEGENDS. Easy as that. You cannot go and change things now, because then it all doesn't make any sense any more. Also, of course, you piss off the fans of that franchise. Which isn't that smart if you want to make money. But all that was too much ask, Disney didn't do any of that. No, they didn't care. And the makers of that show cared even less. No, their goal was it to upset people. Also quick side note, what is wrong about someone who tells you that inside a made up universe with rules for itself, things must abide to those given rules? What, you are going to laugh at someone who defences something that they holed deer? For real? Call them a NERD? Haha, how shameful and small-minded.

[@BigFruity]

@@user-wv6xj9wn5b I would say that these two things don't have the same rank. The Birthday (Living span) of Ki adi Mundi is a bit more important and lore influential then what kind of troops exist. Who the fuck cares about that any ways, Especially when you can get cool video games out of a lore change. It probably also is a question of how popular the change is. And the changes that The acolyte did weren't at all popular.

[@Syn_Slater]

@BigFruity yep, I'm totally giving off that Star Trek nerd with graph paper vibes 🤣🤣🤣 that's quite the novel you wrote, so i pulled the TLDR. In the end, though, you make a good movie/show, and no one cares about lore. There are countless examples of this. The butchered spider man in MCU, no one cared, they made every change imaginable in the boys, no one cared ect.. agree, disagree, write a novel, and in the end, it will still be true. You seem to think we're having a debate, what's actually happening is you're just being told you're wrong, because, well, you're wrong 🤷‍♂️

[@lordfenrir1394]

Ive dropped at the end of ep1, they charge someone at the other side of the galaxy, instead take de jedi killer with 3+ jedi scout they put her into a droid ship, and then... AND THEN she survives a orbital fall because a SIT BELT! lmao PS: the "door" to somewhere resides in ANDOR.

[@TrissyTiger]

I personally enjoyed Book of Boba Fett the most because I'm a sucker for Fennec Shand.

[@RobertFletcherOBE]

The fights just look like pre-planned dances, you can see them aiming at the air where they know their opponents light-saber/fist will be, it never looks like they're trying to hit each other. You can see them aiming for where their opponent wont be it looks dreadful

[@Deezedits.]

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[@Xmeagol]

lol the saber fights in the acolyte make the mustafar fight look like a fucking joke

[@wisdommanari6701]

No it really doesn't

[@Xmeagol]

@@wisdommanari6701 sadly you're wrong, and that's okay :)

[@Mo11y_Mi11ions]

It was a good show, and the hate was pretty much entirely conservative crybabies upset girls were involved on some level beyond assisting the male protagonist or the "Somebody please save me, UWU" role.

[@ThomasCro]

Being mediocre is the worst sin an entertainment piece can commit. My time for entertainment is limited, so having something waste it without even being intriguingly bad, especially when there's so much excellent media I haven't experienced, is unacceptable and often makes me angry.