BEGINNER COLOR GRADING MISTAKE

[@mattih]

Who else thought I started vaping? 😂 hard pass for me on that

[@DrummerJames]

Matti Haapoja is there a link for the fogger?

[@logicfrogmedia]

Lol 😂 I did

[@epii07]

I'm a victim 😂🤣

[@vi_cupcait]

i thought you tried a lil!

[@LotharRadscheid]

Kiitos hyvästä kärjestä, en koskaan halunnut liioitella kylläisyyttä, mutta youtubeiin lataamisen jälkeen se oli taas tasaisempi :-( Kiitos ja kaikkea hyvää Dusseldorf, Lothar

[@TwoOneSe7en]

I think we got trolled. Matti looking like an Oompa Loompa this whole video.

[@alexgrebench2186]

Two One Se7en Films oh we definitely did

[@PeterLindgren1]

I totally agree, sometimes i tweak stuff until i'm wondering what it is i'm actually looking at haha. The Sony footage definitely needs a saturation boost! Really good points Matti! Thanks for the vid!

[@LearnOnlineVideo]

Hey Matti, I’ve been watching your videos for years! You’ve always stood out as someone who’s colours are always on point 👌 thanks for the tips...also, great smog machine, the opening was epic!

[@gunterrs]

Your forehead just look like you applied 10 times a tan spray plus a gloss

[@missioncreekstyle3814]

LMAO I was thinking that too.

[@dmitriysergiyenko132]

true))

[@baliyachtservices7505]

Saturated!

[@Johnny.senpai]

Looking like an oompa loompa

[@BestxBelieve]

thats a good look unlike your display pic

[@aristomenis_k]

"The more subtle your look is, the better" he said and applied 10 layers of orange - teal luts on his footage 😋

[@luucamNY]

Step 1: adjust exposure Step 2: color correction Step 3: color grade

[@Janken_Pro]

You got it

[@zoodoku]

less is more, absolutely. I even like the desaturated film look. Much better than the modern OLED phone camera look,... far too unrealistic.

[@tayywongg]

Biggest mistake: apply LUTs before colour correction!

[@katlis]

At 3:45 Matti mentions he basically edits "incorrectly" to compensate for the variation in what he's seeing in his editor, versus what he's seeing rendered in his browser. This sounds like a clear misunderstanding of color space, and the true "beginner color grading mistake."

[@Milan-cf1xe]

Hey, I have a question. So if I shoot in slog and I want to use a lut made for slog. How can I color correct the footage before applying the lut? Because in slog you cant really tell if the temperature or saturation is right?

[@BBSHOCKZ]

LUTs are destructive, tweak your footage. Adjust your shadows and highlights mid tones etc correct your colours before applying your lut

[@Houstnwehavuhoh]

@@Milan-cf1xe You should find a CORRECTIVE/INPUT LUT that converts SLOG2/3 to REC709 (or LOG to REC709). OR, adjust appropriately to what is considered the standard for exposures (Sony has corrective LUTs on their site, and there's a ton of free ones). What I mean by this is the Ansel Adams chart. Basically, adjust shadows, mid-tones, highlights to their "appropriate" spots (exposures) according to this chart (with respects to content). Usually that's a bit tricky considering how flat SLOG is (lots of tweaking), but, a basic understanding of the idea and practice will get you there (tons of tutorials, just don't COPY, understand the fundamentals and use your eyes!!!). If you use a corrective/input LUT that converts to a standardized color space (such as REC709), it's substantially easier. And to clarify, REC709 is not lower quality or a smaller color space by any means (I mean actually it is a smaller color space but..), converting from LOG to REC is "condensing" information into an "acceptable" colorspace, allowing you to take advantage of dynamic range and the color space used when shot (assuming it's a large space such as SGamut/SGamut.cine/etc). Your question proposes that you're using a LUT specific to SLOG that maybe gives you a "finished look"? If it's a corrective/Input LUT, that usually means it's converting to REC709. From there, adjust everything appropriately to make it look "presentable/good" without a color/contrast shift. Make it look good to your eyes (exposures, contrast, saturation! Even if it means the shadows aren't blue, and highlights are golden. It should look how your eyes saw it. If it's a LOG lut that isn't specific to a color space, that means it's creating a curve "appropriate" to LOG, but applying contrast/shifts/sat/colors that the LUT was "intended for". Basically creating a "look" so to speak. Usually this is harder to "correct", as it's a canned look, and was created around the content of the creator. Meaning, your shots are likely quite different. From here, though, if that's the path you choose, dial in the LUT as it seems closest to correct, then adjust exposures, contrast, saturation as appropriate (Asnel Adams, get used to it). The big thing to understand though is, if it's a "Final look" LUT, or a LUT someone sold you that "makes color grading easy", you'll have to tweak. Meaning, as you dial in that "magical LUT", even if shadows/mids/highlights are where they're supposed to sit, the color shifts may not be what was desired. Or vice versa, colors are there but everything else isn't. You may get the desired color shifts, but not the correct exposures, leaving you "somewhat pleased". Point is, it's ideal to convert LOG to REC709 (by LUT or by eye), then apply the creative look. There's ways to work with drastic creative LUTS but bear in mind it's tricky, I realize this may be a bit of a ramble but I hope you can make sense of it!

[@Milan-cf1xe]

@@Houstnwehavuhoh wow thank you for your answer!

[@itsjantore]

Increasing contrast also increases the saturation. Something to keep in mind. I often find it better to lower shadows or increase contrast instead of saturation.

[@Janken_Pro]

You got it

[@TravisBlue1]

I’m glad you mentioned the shirt. No amount of color grading can help with that.

[@Jigsaw407]

But you do look a little bit like an Oompa Loompa... there is way too much orange/teal in your grading for my liking. Other than that your vids are definitely top notch, though!

[@tigerbeatfilms2943]

Orange and teal is the worst thing to ever happen to filmmaking.

[@BBSHOCKZ]

Now that you mention it what if this was intentional 😂

[@IBVisuals]

I think it was intentional

[@Houstnwehavuhoh]

@@tigerbeatfilms2943 Why's that! What's your favorite look? No hate, totally get it, just want to know your ideal if this is your worst!

[@Houstnwehavuhoh]

@@tigerbeatfilms2943 But to be blunt, I love the Orange/Teal, BUT, I think people overcook it/get it wrong. With that being said, I'm not a colorist.

[@Vanlifia]

"Make sure your footage doesn't look like you applied 10 layers of spray tan" - goes and applies 10 layers of spray tan.

[@bala1000mina]

Thank you so much Matti for the helpful tips! God bless you and good luck!

[@gr8jasmo]

I use a tip Peter talked about with adjustment layers. Should I add saturation to the adjustment layer to the clip itself.

[@ceticnave8]

loved your phrase of "you never learn enough", I'll live by it forever :)

[@chrisshor3195]

Matti: You don't want to turn your subjects into oompa loompas like they have 50 layers of spray tan. Also Matti: 🔶️👁👄👁🔶️

[@vlad.vision]

Great advice , 🙏🏾 I've been shooting in the standard picture profile for my channel because I've been afraid of messing up the colors. I think I'll start venturing with luts and color grading soon. Thanks Matti!

[@njihia]

This has been me too. I use an entry level dslr and color correcting the flat image (which is not log footage) had always left me with broken colors. I cornered myself into practicing until I've kinda figured it out. Give it a try, you'll enjoy the win.

[@vlad.vision]

Much appreciated @@njihia 🙌🏾 . You're right I just need to dive in 🏊🏾‍♂️ , I tend to learn best that way too! Thanks! 🙏🏾

[@jenn-lee9905]

Love the shirt Matti! Thanks for the reminder on the coloring and also that micro fogger! So cool!

[@joshmillerdp]

Literally color grading is one of the HARDEST parts! Its such an objective thing and your eyes can play serious tricks on you!

[@andresalvarez7303]

Matti....just wanted to say you are an amazing youtuber, your content is entertaining, educational, and you are a pretty cool person. The day you went to the lake you addressed the issue of burnout and how sometimes we forget to take some time to ourselves and I thought that was a fantastic message. Keep up the great work!

[@hatchmedia4389]

Wouldn’t you want to add rec 709 first to your log footage? Then add a lut?

[@ANNAKKi]

My grandma has the exact pattern of your shirt on her goimg out dancing dress. Love it.

[@TiberiousGreene]

Honestly I love that you’re talking about this mistake while actually using the mistake in the video to show it lol

[@ANDRIANFEMIXOBOY]

Last time I just got learn again about the color grading, know you explain again in this video. Thanks man!!

[@josip1382]

No. First of all you should fully color correct the footage / convert the color space to rec.709, then you apply creative grade (or LUT) in your case... Also, for the saturation you should use the vectroscope.

[@artieshell9205]

That shirt .... that’s man confidence! Lovin’ it.

[@ChandraPivo]

You freaked me out with that shirt just a little bit...Branching out...LOL Love the fog machine! Glad you got it working impatient one!

[@scottwyden]

Thank you, Matti, for putting out some of the best content! I found color grading cumbersome so I rarely do it anymore. I tend to rely more on my Nikon Z6's great color science and then add color effects in FCPX when desired. You inspire me to ramp up my own channel and take it to a new level.

[@MarcelNL]

Haha I was just looking for a cheap, portable fogger! Will look into this microfogger now.

[@chrissenters4704]

This has been one of the most helpful videos I've watched trying to learn more about this. Thanks for sharing!

[@stephcalderwood]

Thanks for the pointers Matti! Your tips have really helped me as I started and continue to improve my videos!

[@pjansen]

This type of content is 👍Please more of this again. Thanks Matti.

[@umrkhayam]

that timelapse was SOOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOD!!!

[@djshockafrica4330]

Wow important tip right there Matti 3:29, I didn't know that happens when you upload to KZbin. More colourful shirts ;) Thank you for the extra effort on the effects!

[@DanUnplanned]

This is such a helpful video matti! I’ve just done my first ever vlog in Prague and mentioned you as an inspiration! I applied a colour grade to an adjustment layer but then removed it cos some colours looked to washed out some to strong Keep up the great work dude! Hoping one day my videos could be as good as yours

[@HeyIamAndrew]

Matti, thanks for making dope stuff. I’m learning a lot and I appreciate it. Im hoping to implement a lot of things you teach me into my videos! Thank you!

[@moment]

let's vape and chill

[@mattih]

Hahaha 😂

[@Alex_Ochoa]

*I always go super subtle on my grading cause I'm COLORBLIND 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️ it's ok tho I guess I've learned to cope with it...I think lol*

[@77jairomorales]

Question? Do u think summer sun tans affect color grade too? Not to look like a 🍊. Love ur knowledge Ur awaome man!

[@Infancinema]

I do filmmaking for 10 years and I’ve never used a lut in my life 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@shivadas7655]

Luts are for instagrammers

[@shameelkhan209]

What do you do then?

[@Infancinema]

All IN PAK GUY colorgrade manually 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Enflict]

Awesome video, always good to have a refresher like this. Still guilty of a couple things like this.

[@AdenMichaelManalo]

Hey Matti! You are starting a daily vlog again! Yay super pump out! 🙏🏼

[@copy33]

Hey Matti! Would love a tutorial on taking good stills! as well as camera recommendations for photography (vs videography)....I saw ur review of the Fuji XT3 and XT30 and it was all positive. Thoughts?

[@AprilClayton]

This was really entertaining. I might try color grading. I’m intimidated but want better colors

[@usmanmajid7837]

Thanks Matti. While I've been filming for years, I'm still working on my colour grading skills. A question I have is regarding the process. I see lots of pro colourists first 'converting' their LOG footage into Rec.709, then correcting, then grading. What's the difference between doing that vs simply correcting then grading?

[@StephenBell_video]

Relearn for the win!! Thx Matti!

[@J.Lulo_]

Great 👍 advice as always Matti. THANKS 🙏. Hey Matti do u think 🤔 you’ll ever do a episode explaining how bit rate effects the color and quality of a video?

[@DommoDommo]

Def had your luts on over the text at the end, it was like a pinkish/orange kinda color.

[@EkheEntertainment]

awesome ! thanks Matii. Keep rocking !

[@ahmedhashmi3584]

Thanks Matti!! This was the tip I was looking for when shooting on my sony..

[@satosmania]

A bit of thinking out loud: A LUT will influence the Contrast, Exposure and of course the colours. When someones creates a LUT, it is to give a specific look on the footage, but we most probably don't know the Picture profile used, or under which lighting conditions someone has created the specific look, aka LUT. So why not to start with the LUT and come down to the look we like, tweaking the exposure and the rest of the settings? I understand if the original footage is way off, we should colour correct it before applying the LUT, so we can get the look that the specific LUT promises. But why not to do it the other way around? When I fix my contrast and exposure and then apply the LUT, it is too contrasty and the colours are all over the place. Why not to apply the LUT, and tweak the exposure and the contrast? And if we do not have full intensity of the LUT, we "miss" the real look of the LUT since the the colours are not shifted as they are supposed to. Hope that makes sense 🙂

[@mitchvideography6303]

Just what i needed! Thanks Matti!

[@waynosfotos]

I personally over saturate stills a lot more, and try to keep video natural and slightly darker. I feel with stills it is okay to push unnatural looks as it is more an art form, like a picture, bigger than real life, while video needs to look more real. I also like to check, once I have colour corrected, the before and after, as this brings you back to reality how far you have pushed things.

[@jeffschmid95]

You're always so helpful Matti! 🙏

[@lukasmargesin5756]

Thanks Matti! This will definately help beginners! me included 😇👍🏻

[@AJandGeorgie]

great tip Matti! definitely guilty of not focusing on the saturation, thank you! 🙏

[@missioncreekstyle3814]

My tip is that after I grade, add back sat, then add the LUT, my exposure needs to be pumped back up a bit. IOW, the saturation darkens my footage. My 2 cents anyway.

[@MichaelJLong]

I’m a color grading noob. This is so helpful. Thank you Matti!

[@keithbegue7357]

Honestly this little tip helps tons!

[@mon17razor72]

Thanks for the information I was wondering why when I upload videos on my channel looks less saturated than on my computer... now I know why! 😎👊

[@weallliveinanevilsystem.7238]

🤣🤣😂👍🏽 @0:04 that had me rolling

[@Creative7inc]

COLOR CORRECTION is so necessary! Never forget that before throwing that LUT on, your actual footage is well exposed and contrasted!

[@AlliandWill]

Was expecting Potato Jet to jump onto your desk and slide off of it onto the floor past you to talk about color grading

[@adissabovic]

5:00 You're kidding, right? That you fresh outta solarium? Don't you have mirrors, dude? 😂😂😂😂

[@TimMaier]

Cooles Video! Sehr informativ und genial geschnitten :)

[@zameerpactyan]

I took your advice i have learned from my mistakes my future videos are going to be much better color graded :) Can you make a video about shooting music videos some tips and tricks ?

[@zmbrsys]

Talks about branching out with different shirt colors. Shows clips while wearing a red coat in examples. So much color. Colour?

[@77jairomorales]

This is the video ive been waiting for! Thanks man for ur hard work! U rock 🎸

[@BrunoCyr]

Was just about to color grade a video... but I'll wait after this

[@CalledCollectiveMedia]

Great video! Definitely adding these tips to my videos!

[@RSWarriorBryan]

Got the fogger to work! Awesome!

[@emilvhughes]

Yes!!! More color grading videos!!!

[@DominereEvansMusic]

I’ve been shooting flat and haven’t add saturation at all... Thank you

[@gokulkpavg3884]

Matti got you covered always 😘♥️

[@sjcproductionsandmedia]

How do you fix a dark subject with a light background?

[@Alex_Ochoa]

*Always learning everyday 👌*

[@eddu4361]

In my humble opinion LUTs work only on well corrected and graded footage log or not prior to applying a LUT.

[@JiruubGaming]

Mattie! What’s up! I’m not sure if I overlooked it but do you have the link for that Micro Fogger 2? You mentioned it in this video and your other but I don’t see a link 😭.

[@morgondickerson2086]

How's this for a pro-tip: use an input LUT on your log footage. A contrast and sat adjustment to your log footage is NOT a replacement for an input LUT. Log is not rec709. You have to use an input LUT to change it from the log colorspace to your standard rec709 colorspace. I see people make this mistake all the time on KZbin and it kills the heck out of me.

[@Ovidiu-Matei]

I was interested in that microfogger from the first 2 seconds on the preview thumbnail. I am surprised you don't have an affiliate link to that. Somebody knows something similar? Can't find.

[@Michal_Kedzierski]

Matti I wish I could go to the meet up - I went there for Peters but I’m going camping at that time!

[@MotuPictures]

Love the shirt! And I completely thought Matt helped you with the intro shot! It was great!

[@topicruben]

Thanks for the awesome tips Matti! Yeah, very colorful T-shirt 😄

[@Downs719]

Hey, where can I get one of those micro foggers?

[@JosiahVaughan]

Is it just me or does this video seem a little too saturated. Great video though!

[@merijn9342]

Yup was thinking the same hahah

[@Javiihz]

I need one of those micro fogger

[@SallyAndEd]

Hahaha the intro so dramatic 😂😂 so funny! Wish we could come and meet you but Toronto is a bit far from Sydney...

[@glandeestudio9636]

Hey Matti, nice outfit you wear, is that batik? Thanks for the video, really learn a lot about color grading.

[@YogeshLimbuTabla]

Thank you 😊 @matri for ur advice. It’s always fun and inspiring to see each video of urs. Love and regards From Darjeeling

[@DustinHarrelson]

We like the extra effort and the colorful shirt Matti, don't worry

[@DanielMironichenko]

Dude... yea definitely caught off guard by the shirt too!!

[@felixschwiderski]

I love this t-shirt mate, where do you have it from?

[@SaMMyBoI559]

Thanks matti good tips!!! Keep up the good work bro!!!! 💯✊🏼

[@quinnthecameraman]

Your channel is so amazing!

[@ToastedSynapseGaming]

Aw, sweet, another Matti video. How long until he plugs in his LUTs? 1:40 Does he actually explain color grading as a process (with proper corrections beforehand, getting the color you want and then scope checking) or just a slider for LUTs? Nope, just the slider. And btw, as a tip: Saturation doesn't fix all your problems. It's the HUE vs SAT that fixes your problems. Bump up JUST the skin tones if you want to bump up your skin tones, duh...., Don't just Saturate the whole image... wtf... Even Vibrance is a better choice, but HUE vs SAT is the best option. So if you like re-learning, at least learn this. Cheers!

[@toblerdotson2429]

Good video. I am starting to get into film making. So this is very helpful!

[@DaBadylzz]

Probably if you vape it will have the same effect or even better at a very low cost comparing to micro fogger!

[@aaronpeipert]

DaBadylzz you telling me that wasn’t a vape pen?

[@felipeaguiar]

I love your t-shirt! Where is it from?

[@BastiMark]

WHen u received your microfogger? i also preordered it but it didnt come to me