Beginner's Guide to Brazing - RC4WD C2X Rear Cage

[@psykology9299]

"Should always have somebody around that knows what theyre doing" *instant throwback to my best mate and myself at 10 years old grinding and welding together our own go kart powered by my mates old quad bike with not an adult in sight* 😂

[@Madmadwilly]

Same thing when me and my bud where building my old race mower

[@funkenshrumn]

6:25 that plastic to the right bubbling man...lol

[@latigo_rc7597]

You had me at “That’s the puppy!”. Cool video.. I’ve never considered doing that but what a great resource if I ever do. Thank you!

[@Evan_Moore61]

I’ve tried brazing but I suck at it. I’m not giving up on it because I love the feeling of taking materials and making something cool and/or useful out of them. I’ve done it on my Chevy Apache project truck quite a bit and I want to bring it to 10th scale for myself as well. I have access to a welder to make all of the stuff I want to, but it’s a half hour away and I’d rather be in my shop where I’m most comfortable and can learn at my own pace. This video will definitely help me make some cool stuff for my rigs, so thanks a ton!

[@4sidebars]

@ 6:10 you can see the backround plastics starting to melt XD

[@scalebuildersguild]

A little melt never hurt anybody.

[@stratobungle]

@@scalebuildersguild this is the perfect solution to that: Z-S1882 Trail Finder 2 Aluminum Side Body Posts $15.99 from RC4WD - they are replacements that are all-metal. I have installed them on my C2X.

[@Squintz45]

It's official, Fire Still Burns!

[@harveyjoneswoodsman5956]

Was gonna say the same thing I would have made sure that no plastic was close enough to melt or remove it

[@harveyjoneswoodsman5956]

Also if on anything that has a structural impact a little melting is harmful

[@transambill1]

I use a micro torch. It's great for getting the heat into tight places and keeping it away from places you don't want it. Also a chainsaw sharpening stone for use in a dremel is great for shaping the ends of the tubes for a no gap fit. In the end your joints will be stronger and look better than ones with large gaps filled in with silver solder which itself is expensive especially when you have to use twice as much to fill gaps in your joints.

[@GhostRider-ii7tz]

That’s cool.i haven’t brazed in years.i did it before I could weld.im going to try it on my next project.also you can get line benders that are like pliers.you can get a tighter bend.

[@FreedomYak]

“...that’s you” Pup: “what kind of sorcery is this... I’m out”. I’d say your cage came out pretty sweet. I was thinking of recreating the Smittybuilt double tube roll bar, bumpers and sliders I had on my ‘Yota out of plastic but this has changed my mind. Time to get the torch out, now where the heck did I put that scrap tubing...

[@cjboa]

You got it pretty much in a nut shell. I was a pro brazer in a ship yard for years and you covered the basics

[@hllywd_8315]

Can you do a video on how you sandblast the cage and paint it?

[@scalebuildersguild]

I don’t have a booth here, I send to a friend usually. Prime with etching primer and paint with a suitable paint. Easy!

[@hllywd_8315]

@@scalebuildersguild got it, is that the only way to clean up the cage is threw blasting? Ahh ok etching primer got it.

[@MrGibbie2210]

Always been something I fancied tackling..... now I may just have to. Excellent advice, I love your approach to everything Rc.

[@Dean_Designs_RC]

In the scale world brazing can look more scale and clean over welding. I’ve been welding all of my metal creations but I’d love to try brazing. Thanks for a great video!

[@rickschock4642]

Very much enjoyed the video on how to braze for RC crawlers. That is something I haven't tried yet and would like to give a go. Thanks!

[@scalebuildersguild]

You should!

[@fullsendrc2537]

Good stuff! I started brazing today, found a dusty old set up that was used by former shop personnel a few years back. (Oxy Acetalin) super lucky and stoked to get to learn with this legit set up. I successfully brazed up some .250 stainless rod and made an effective and decent looking bash bar for the scx10.2. Learned a lot from your video, really appreciate it! You have a good personality for YouTubing holy cow! Awesome, hopefully we get to meet at an upcoming industry event this year!

[@scalebuildersguild]

Glad you're trying it out with some quality gear! Thanks for watching, and the kind words!

[@datboy5009]

I would so do this to an on road car chassis for the scale look. I’ve seen people use styrene but I think this might be even better and more accurate

[@liampayne1582]

I'd love to try brazing, it's looking great. I already had a soldering torch, solder and copper brake pipe, so I made do with that, as I'm still quite new to rc

[@kravenkrawlhobby5438]

Liam Payne welcome to the hobby 🤝✊

[@MrsRabbit8]

Thank you, much appreciated! I need to make a specialized bumper for my scx24. This video helped me say YES, I can do that!

[@scalebuildersguild]

Glad I could help!

[@cryharder1102]

Harbor freight has a jewelers torch. The flame is a lot more pin point. Those big self-igniting torches spread heat everywhere. Your joints will look a lot better and less clean up.

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

THANK YOU Sir!! You just answered one of MANY questions I just asked Matt. 😲

[@cryharder1102]

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[@smokeyrc9070]

Awesome video I've watched a few braising videos but after this one I think I might try it. You showed me everything that I need from a beginners perspective to go and start right away with minimal investment.

[@RCRoads]

Thanks for sharing your experience with brazing. I think it would be a very valuable skill to have for repairing or modifying your RC.

[@scalebuildersguild]

Glad you liked it!

[@DarwinnianTheGreatish]

I loved the demonstration of were the torch head gets attatched ' tap tap tap' lol love this guy

[@Mach400]

LOL!! At 6:35 mark watch the side skirt or whatever that area was just melting from the flame. Good laugh, great video

[@scalebuildersguild]

Glad you enjoyed. A little melting never hurt anyone!

[@kravenkrawlhobby5438]

The shop gets hot at times

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

... Just addicted to your Videos today, Matt!! I've seen this one a few times before, but I always go back to it. When I've got a proper Work Area again, I'm definitely trying this! For years as a Mechanic, I've Brazed on a much larger scale (real Car Exhaust and such). I've never tried it in small scale, but it looks doable. Thanks for inspiring!!! 😉 Carmine ✈🚂🚙

[@IZMAYLOVOWS]

great guide! you can also use brass wire and borax. The strength of the connection is the same, but the price of consumables is much lower. You can watch almost any of my videos, I do a lot of soldering cages, there is something to watch and share my experience ;)

[@chadashton7029]

YES! I was hoping someone would offer some info on a lower cost way to do this. I want to start fabbing some parts for my TRX 4 and my son's SCX10 II without needing to put out a large amount of money.

[@gmummy]

Do you apply the borax dry or mix with something to make a paste? Just thinking how the borax doesn't blow off one you use the blow torch? And any copper wire or does it have to be intended for braising? Thanks, checking out your channel now.

[@IZMAYLOVOWS]

@@chadashton7029 in Russia, 7 metres of rbass wire 1mm diameter cost about 2$, borax - 500 grams about 10$, it's really cheap! =)

[@IZMAYLOVOWS]

@@gmummy I use borax in dry form. to prevent it from flying away, heat the brass and dip it in the borax. wait until the tubes turn red, move the torch a little to the side and smear the joint with brown and continue soldering. profit!

[@IZMAYLOVOWS]

@@gmummy I use ordinary brass wire from a construction store with a diameter of 1 mm. copper is too soft and has poor adhesion to steel. the best choice is brass and silver (very expensive)

[@Docdug]

Matt - thanks for posting this! I’m gonna try my hand at cage work on my next build, a SCX10 II for Axialfest! Cheers Doc

[@forrestcrabbe]

good video. pretty good basic brazing info. brazing rods from home depot or lowes or whatever will be cheaper than that silver solder yer using. I use a ts8000 torch but the flame is a little big, it works fine for small stuff you just gotta be a little more careful. for more precise heat placement a jewelers torch works best. I actually like the way a brass brazed joint looks on steel. it's a nice contrast, and, when you get to where you can run that solder in smooth it makes a very eye pleasing joint. tig welding these little projects is where it's at methinks. a lot more expensive to get set up, but, super precise heat and bond. the truck is lookin great. I enjoyed this video very much have a badass day 🤘🏻

[@jcspeedshop]

This is a real art form! Good work

[@TheImtoomuch]

"Be careful!" Where's the fun in that? Shirley, I jest! Good video. I've been wanting to learn to braze.

[@rc-ingaroundamerica8792]

I've been wanting to build a custom cage for my newest build, and was about to look it up, and this was in my recommendation list, thanks Matt, candy wait for the next live stream takeover next week

[@slamboy66]

The square body over your right shoulder, separate cab and bed or just paint? Would love to find a SB cab only.👍👍👍

[@scalebuildersguild]

Yep, separate bed, 3D printed bed, and printed cab back too!

[@rcpete7055]

Really enjoyed this video 🤘 it's crazy how one video can change your day and get you going in another direction 👍

[@nealstavonincaly5084]

I'm not going to do this, but I'm watching because I love your videos 👍

[@dragonflyjoyride]

Nice video Matt! I do have all that that you did show plus I have the Little Smiths torch. I love it! Nice flame size and percise brazing. It pretty much on heats up at the spot your trying to braze.

[@josiepratt3105]

Dude! That short bed cage looks badass! I took the truck bed off my Element Knightrunner to do a similar and simple cage like yours. Sometimes less is better lookin!

[@BlueDually4x4]

Brazing is a good start into metal working as it does have a lower start up cost. Plus it builds off of soldering wires as a skill set. Since I own a MIG I tend to use it for my metal working.

[@RcNickster709]

Yeah this really is a tricky process. Say what you like. lol Practice is a must. I have been working in a machine shop for over 25 years. This is a process I still struggle with. LMAO .. Great work bud and thanks for the walk through

[@joshuamitchell2275]

lol you roasted your actual frame in the background there.

[@rccrawlingaddict207]

I noticed that to. Good to have a flame retardant material around for a back drop cover. And something under it for dropping hot solder onto.

[@markneubauer9522]

For my has or heat source I have a smaller hobby type torch that has a much smaller and finer flame point,almost a needle point plate and it works awsome!

[@scalebuildersguild]

Very cool!

[@carloscastellanos3294]

Thank you for uploading this I always wanted to know how to braze and now I will definitely give it a try

[@brianconnell9601]

To figure out what your bends need to be use plumbing solder it has a large diameter & it bends easily & you can reuse it over & over for long tubes the shorter pieces not so much. This is especially helpful for interior cages. If you want to do a complete mockup you can use C A (super glue) to glue it together to see if you like it or not. I have a small oxygen propane torch I bought @ Lowes & I used the Lincoln Electric brazing rods. I am going to try the borax & brass wire technique like someone else mentioned in the comments next.

[@JDMJDK]

I need to get into brazing again. I did plenty of it in metal shop class 20+yrs ago. Great video as always!! 🏁💯

[@polishguywithhardtospellna8227]

The dog was great, so understanding, almost looked like saying:"no way that's me, you for real?! Need to look closer, stay here"

[@garyfreeman9]

That was a very informative video. Great tips on Brazing. Your design and fabrication presentation was on point. I enjoyed it.

[@453BriSK]

Thank u i have been wanting to make roll bar for my truck bed. Just didn't know how I could do it. The best part is I have everything I need already

[@richysrc2158]

Thanks very much for this video this has definitely opened up my eyes to build a cage , any chance of a short video on mounting hard bodies? Just bought a rangerover from jsscale. Thanks

[@scalebuildersguild]

I'll consider that, thanks!

[@richysrc2158]

@@scalebuildersguild thanks very much. I'm struggling with ideas and KZbin isn't very helpful

[@Mavrick1509]

Fantastic video, I'll be attempting to do full body roll cage for my XJ. Stay safe, and keep your stick on the ice!

[@harkov47]

Wow, your puppy looks EXACTLY like our last labradoodle...even down to the little bit of brown on the face! Awesome video :)

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

OMG Matt!!! You made my week!!! 😁😁😁 I've already got everything you mentioned except the Mapp Gas and Nozzle, Solder and Flux and a Bench Vise! Oh, and Brake Line. NONE of which sounds prohibitively expensive!! 😁😎 (I apologize up front. This will be LONG! There are things I feel like I need to say to you) 😃 Also as a Retired Auto Mechanic, and Custom Engine Builder, I've got OCD level pipe (Fuel and Brake Line) bending and trimming skills and am a pretty decent Welder.... 😉 I've seen other how to Tiny Truck Welding Videos, and was disheartened by the COST of the equipment to get the results they were getting. 😞 Could you please provide me with links or at least part descriptions for the MAPP apparatus, Silver Solder and Flux you use?? 😁 I've wanted to do custom Cage Work since I discovered the Tiny Truck end of the RC Hobby - from YOU, Chris @ GCM and Aaron at RCSparks in 2014!! 😎👍👍🇨🇦 That's true. I was disgusted with how RC Vehicles I kept seeing looked like Moon Buggies with tires sticking out of the Fenders by what looks like 5 SCALE FEET!!! 😖😞😡 I was doing a search for Model Railroading Videos, and "accidentally" stumbled upon your, Aaron's, Chris's and later, Josh's Channels. You helped me discover after a 9 year hiatus from the Hobby, that SCALE Modeling, my passion, had a big place in the RC Hobby!!! I thank you Sir, sincerely. 😉😎👍👍 Again I'm TERRIBLY sorry that in 2015, when we lost EVERYTHING, that in desperation, I reached out to the RC Community to try to get help rebuilding my collection and to start my new found Love, Scale Trucking!! I'm not a beggar, and contrary to popular belief, NOT a Scammer. Still don't remember who started that. I'm pretty sure that your Friend Richard, will never talk to me again... I've made quite a few enemies in my improper means of trying to get help. THANK YOU Matt, if you got to the end of this book!! 😉 PLEASE Stay SAFE! 😷 Carmine ✈🚂🚙

[@crazedacresrc9086]

Thanks for the tips, I have a bunch of bumpers and sliders needed.

[@RCPropaganda]

wow I had no idea it was this simple to get going. I know it will take time but after practice I am sure I can do it. O man have to get a cage going.

[@ArmanRC]

look pretty easy, but the fact so so so much effort to get this skill, thanks for sharing great brazing skill

[@prinznapp2018]

Brazing is awesome... I am doing may first steps with this... But I have made a new Stinger for a Chinese bumper, and so it looks way different an unique... There are a few videos of my red jeep on my very little channel.. So stay well an safe...

[@BANTAM53]

We all know that dog did all the work. :-)

[@jayc2108]

Nice video Matt I am definitely going to give brazing a go.

[@2727laurie]

Love your puppy!

[@scalebuildersguild]

I figured you might!

[@shadowsystemsrc9389]

Thank you for sharing I've been looking into brazing for some time.

[@pellesomethingsomething]

Very useful. Extra points for the pupster.

[@scalebuildersguild]

Glad it was helpful!

[@ricgruber9185]

You made me want to go pick up some brake line. Torch and map gas

[@frankkrivitz3323]

Jewelers torch with map gas and oxygen works good for me. Can control the flame to more smaller area.

[@shortbusecv49]

Thank you for all the info I will be giving it a try here soon. Keep up the amazing work.

[@woutervanwijk4369]

What a sweet doodle! Looks a bit like mine which carries the name "Zorro"

[@scalebuildersguild]

Alexander is my best friend!

[@RandyChamberlin]

Might have to give it a try

[@jacktate236]

How do you braze to these tabs when they’re screwed to the chassis without melting the adjacent plastic?

[@jacktate236]

Good question, Bru.

[@hondafreak8613]

I got a scx10 ii cherokee on order, i was thinking of doing the same thing on front bumper. Use my Tig welder and weld a hoop bumper. You could probably solder this all together too. With .040 Tig rod at 5 amps should work. I probably wont need filler, can just melt metal together. 👍 on video. Great ideas

[@voolandashland2914]

6:30 hey dude your side plate/rock sliders mounting starts to melt. 😂😅

[@scalebuildersguild]

Yes, it did. Don't do what I did! Thanks for watching!

[@richfreyabailey]

I'm just using a propane torch.. takes a few more seconds to get to the flux melting point. In the UK it's harder to find silver solder and flux. It's only in small quantities from mainly model train hobby stores.

[@oldironsfury]

Remember, you can’t start a fire without a spark 😉

[@Pezzapoo]

Brilliant! Got to make an exo cage for my bc8 Mammoth. This is epic thx man

[@pickititllneverheal9016]

Be cautious using torch when your fabrication requires you to braze while the cage is mounted on the frame. I made a exo cage for my hard body Raptor. It's over on my other channel called RC Crawler Workbench.

[@radchad666]

just dove into brazing and built 2 cages, was really fun. Hardest part for me is keeping the pieces in place and designing the part. I designed it adobe illustrator and printed out all the pieces and used that as a template. helped a little bit. anyhow. Fun to make stuff. Have you ever brazed steel rod not tube?

[@indybama80]

Been wanting to try brazing for awhile. May get some tubing n give it a try. Also wanna try styrene as well

[@timothystruven8629]

Because of you an Josh, now I'm trying to braze a whole moon buggy cage for a build I'm working on, lmao

[@scalebuildersguild]

Good luck! Thanks for watching!

[@clementinecrawlers2526]

Awesome video! Thanks for the tips. Your one of my favorite subscriptions!

[@101sailorboy]

Hey Matt, I’ve bought everything you used in this video from the exact magnet to the exact solder and flux, however I cannot get the fab tabs shipped to Canada. Is there anywhere else to get them? Also I saw your in the southern Ontario drag group and I’m star struck I hope to see you at an event!

[@101sailorboy]

I dm’d them on ig and they took care of me quick

[@ToyRCota]

@@101sailorboy Scalerfab has some tabs im prettys sure.

[@layoutdeluxe]

Just at the right time! Thank you for this video! Just last night I tried to build a little interior roll cage with brass tube and silver solder - and overall it actually turned out decent. However, I struggled the most with the correct measurements. I have the same tube bender like you showed in the video and just don't understand, how to align it right ... do you mark the rods in the middle of the bend or where the furthest point is going to be? Btw: dog people are the best!

[@scalebuildersguild]

I tend to mark at the end of the curve so I know where to start it when I need to replicate a piece.

[@petersmith6423]

Wow!, awesome video mate cheers....

[@volksrodden9522]

One way you could mount the winch: mount the servo in the bed of the truck, run the wire up to the front bumper. Possibly you could 3D print a tool box to go the servo?

[@michaelhoyle3266]

Thanks for the video Matt. I haven't tried brazing yet, but I want to. Might eyes kept getting bigger as I watched the plastic start to melt. I'm guessing better to braze off of the truck. LOL.

[@emersonlopezg100]

Really nice Cage, In ypu are right doesn't need much more

[@joshcrosson]

I made my roof rack on my gen8 using solid rod and mig welding

[@StellarOutdoors]

To this day, i use brazing for filling in rivet holes in jon boat projects! it's great.

[@tomlucasrccrawlers9108]

Did I see a plastic body post start to bubble in the background. ;-) Love the Dog...he looked to be going "I don't look like that. Hahaha

[@jayluikart487]

Really nice overview. I think I’ll try to make a bumper.

[@Lauritsen24]

I like to see more of these build videos.

[@kayagon]

Really nice cage, thanks for the how to,I'll have to give it a try.

[@005connect9]

You should try some smaller brazing rod with the flux already in it, it leaves a gold finish.

[@marymalone5188]

Thanks for putting out this video. Brazing is something I will look into doing.👍

[@scalebuildersguild]

No problem 👍

[@quadproper]

i use a little Proxxon MFB (mikroflambrenner), silversolder and very thin stainless steel tubes with 0.3mm wall thickness. the tubes are superfast hot don't really conduct heat and other joints won't "open". super light (1m of 5mm tube weights 36g) but expensive (12€/m) downside: you need to notch the tubes very precise.

[@ridgerc5976]

I've went over your video several times trying to build a wrecker boom and i give up. My silver solder just bubbles up and rolls off the tubing.

[@scalebuildersguild]

Doesn't sound like you're using enough or the right type of flux. Don't give up, once you figure it out, it's a tremendously helpful skill!

[@rccrawlingaddict207]

Remember to get both pieces of metal red hot. Never give up on yourself!!!

[@sshelton3000]

I'm sure I'll get some hate but just to clarify that's soldering, that's why you're using stasilv silver solder. Brazing is done at higher temps, typically at red hot temps and with a different filter alloy. Just so you know.

[@302ci1968]

I have decided to learn how to solder or braze. Have bought what's necessary, including a wide range of metal mix, just to be sure. Can you give me a good video on how to braze? Thx in advance

[@jamesvonlindern1522]

Yeah I don't have any equipment don't have any technique but I'm going to give it a shot can't even solder but going to look fun or funny good video Merry Christmas and happy trailing

[@scalebuildersguild]

Good luck! Thanks for watching!

[@RcHobbySteve]

Definitely going to buy those tabs. Would help a lot

[@ruftime]

Nice, just found you! Yes, full size tube chassis race cars were brazed back in the day, itself an extension of soldering.......BTW, it’s ALWAYS Science......with artisanship thrown in. I use a jeweler’s torch which is just a finer tip for more concentrated heat control, but normal “box store” torch can get the job done too. Sub’d 😎

[@frank11861]

Does brake line hold up well if (when for me haha) you roll the truck?

[@scalebuildersguild]

Oh totally. If you brace in the right places it’s extremely strong.

[@CarminesRCTipsandTricks]

And lighter as well. 😎

[@ianprice2441]

Looking good. Thanks for the info.

[@BlindGuyRc]

This is always fun. Though I need a better work shop for that.... Our dinning room doubles as my studio haha. The small time game. But. All in time. 👍👍😁

[@MrSneakyGunz]

Very nice job!

[@Mxoderberg]

"Super molten hot metal"😂 Great video, thanks!👍🏻

[@johnwoods2035]

This is what I'm trying to gather the tools to do it with. What all do u use. What is the wire and the flux.

[@scalebuildersguild]

I'm pretty specific in the video. Search for those things on Amazon or at your local welder's supply store.

[@rccrawler70]

This type of project needs a lot of practice and knowing the basics of welding.