Beginner TIG welders NEED to know this...

[@eastwoodco]

www.eastwood.com/eastwood-elite-tg2000-cordless-tungsten-grinder.html?SHORT&+&+grinder

[@stygianindustries8295]

this is a good product in its own. but this video makes it look hokey because of the intentional bad grind on the bench grinder. you should focus on the ease of use and the fact that it's safer and portable

[@markl2913]

You didn't show us what the tip looked like on the one that wondered around. Are you trying to deceive us?

[@jmackman]

@@markl2913 They are trying to deceive us I do tig welding. I used to think it mattered but it really doesn’t. It’s just a nice gimmick. I’d take a drill and a belt sander any day. Twice as fast and as smooth as this so called grinder these guys are selling. You can buy better ones than this. Professional ones with guided holes and real diamond grits for precision grinds(used in robot welding machines for pharmaceutical grade welds) instead of be these silly grooved baby grinders Aaaand they are only showing high frequency arcs. It’s a different ball game when you actually turn on the amps. Remember, these are the guys with the caterpillar welding tutorials 15 years ago..

[@atowns3364]

I use my drill and grinder with a flap wheel.. which I always have with me when I'm welding.

[@DEVIL666wtf]

I thought it was a nail tbh

[@Bongobongobongobongo]

I mean.. the arc wandering in the first clip could also be because ITS MISSING ITS TIP

[@queremq]

It's not

[@AFPLJohnny]

@@queremq yes it is

[@batchagaloopytv5816]

@@queremq it is

[@lynxgamerlife]

@@queremq I’ve made better grinds then that. I’ve only ground them a couple of times. There is a significant portion of the tip missing.

[@anthonylogan381]

Yes it is

[@mysticnick1]

You can get a good straight grind on a bench grinder if you know how.

[@appelmelk5664]

Yeah ez

[@thegiantgaming7592]

I figured this out within my first day of Tig lessons.

[@dalemehana5015]

I put 2, 59 degrees slots on my bench grinder 1 for each wheel, 1 wheel tidy up my tungsten the other wheel sharpens drill bits

[@protoni6996]

agreed

[@MovieFan13]

Exactly

[@3oclockthoughts468]

First Weld : Me pissing on casual mode Second Mode: Me pissing to clear shit stains off the toilet

[@ferd1775]

You understood the mission

[@staples138]

Best comment here

[@kryptoniridium]

Mission Passed + Respect

[@rickkroll]

​@@kryptoniridium i can hear the san andreas music playin in the background after your comment was made

[@daniellazar2940]

pulling skin back

[@austinnewman6957]

U just can’t use a 36 grit wheel on ur bench grinder lol

[@77Avadon77]

I know that was such a false set up. Loo

[@BichieRichie]

You should never grind tungsten with an open face grinder the particles are radioactive and shouldn’t be inhaled

[@jorlejoca]

​@@77Avadon77 it looks like they used a rasp on the first. I wonder how it would work after running it on my 30k grit stones. By this logic it would be a surgical arc akin to a laser.

[@77Avadon77]

@@jorlejoca 😅👍

[@LBCAndrew]

Exactly. I've got a norton 150 grit (it's the white variety) wheel and it makes the tungsten look better than this guys grinder.

[@jamesowen21]

if your grinder (OF ANY KIND), does this you need a new wheel.

[@jasonaldenhaley1]

Nah, it just needs to get DRESSED for the occasion!!

[@user-el2xc2su4s]

In this case, he actually needs a new brain.

[@samthesr20man]

Bro got on the Internet today to let everyone know he knows fark all about using a bench grinder to sharp up a tungsten eh

[@captsploof]

I was about to say homie murdered that rod.

[@samthesr20man]

@@captsploof I wreckon I could of done better with a flat file

[@jakefriesenjake]

I use a drill and a belt sander, mine come out super nice

[@DieselRamcharger]

@@jakefriesenjake Same.

[@Sparrowash97]

Facts

[@danielmusatkin9545]

It's funny to see them dull the tip of the bench grinder one

[@blutadlerx]

I always use a Battery powered Hand drill, and go to a sanding belt. It's very good 👍

[@jabocjacob7064]

That’s the move 👌

[@jonhunt5408]

Yes. A cordless drill and my dedicated bench grinder. Makes nice even points.

[@asmrmatthew4158]

you should sharpen vertically not horrizontally

[@blutadlerx]

@@asmrmatthew4158 yeah I do 👍 Thank you

[@jonhunt5408]

@@asmrmatthew4158 you should sharpen so that the striations run parallel to the length of the tungsten. Whether this is done vertically or horizontally is irrelevant. It can also be achieved uniformly, quickly, and inexpensively using a battery drill and your choice of moving abrasive.

[@kvancmutlu8801]

But why are you holding the tungsten slightly higher in the first shot?

[@quinngreenlee2930]

Because they got a product to sell

[@quartfeira]

@@quinngreenlee2930 as easy as that.

[@timothywhieldon1971]

because this is a scam

[@blazeboi3305]

The distance is not that far from each other. The tig torch should have no problem forming an ark in both shots.

[@stacks1548]

Cuz they got bs marketing to provide

[@jasonmorris2813]

Try grinding parallel instead of perpendicular to the tungsten you can see the score marks which (also) makes the arc want to follow

[@pz1269]

You could change the grinding wheel to a fine grit and see what that does for Ya.

[@mechanicallycreative9788]

I just use a pencil sharpener. Perfect tip everytime.

[@hotelhopper681]

Username checks out

[@marc-andreservant201]

420 stainless steel cuts pure tungsten like butter cuts through a hot knife.

[@SeventhGod77]

@@marc-andreservant201hey i mean something cut, it’s like half the job done

[@robinvanderpal372]

@@marc-andreservant201 lmao

[@paulchad511]

If you use the correct grade of wheel, at the correct speed, and grind gently, at the correct angle, a bench grinder will get it silky smooth

[@miles11we]

Yeah but they aren't selling grinding wheels

[@paulchad511]

@@miles11we they won't be selling me anything if that's the best they can do with a bench grinder. Rank amateurs

[@timothywhieldon1971]

bull crap... 13 years of tig.... always used a bench grinder... with a cheap normal stone....

[@dy524]

I remember my first day of TIG plate. He said that this a tungsten grinding class, you will be re doing your tungsten more than you are welding.

[@sugamai]

xD my teacher told me the same last year

[@dy524]

@@sugamai and he was right. I only missed my overhead certification by a pin hole

[@maxk4324]

Just watch out for the dust, it can range from toxic to straight up minorly radioactive. Always wear proper breathing protecting!

[@DavidVanHelden1]

People get so tired of hearing this kind of stuff... They will do it anyway just out of spite....

[@Amber-tu2jo]

​@@DavidVanHelden1 thats their problem. Not our fault stupid people exist.

[@SingleMost]

bench grinder for life

[@thelonewrangler1008]

Learning stuff like this is why I'm apprehensive about just buying a tig and teaching myself how to use it. I did that with a mig 20 years ago to my success, but comparing mig welding to tig welding is like comparing knowing how to change a cars oil vs knowing how to do an engine rebuild

[@tobiasmjlsnes966]

Nah not really, anyone can learn to tig with the right equipment and some free time + guidance (videos or a teacher)

[@landonlehman5497]

I use a flap disc.

[@poisonouscarnage2289]

Yeah I know it’s possible to sharpen drill bits on the flap disk too, just takes a bit of practice

[@engineerpauly7480]

Yeah nah I'll just use me trusty nail file mate

[@TinManReloading]

Dewalt disc grinder with a worn down 80 grit sanding disc has worked for me for 13 years.

[@user-rk5yl3tu6h]

Hey eastwood, ive been using your paint products for years and wanted to say how much i love them. My go-to for everything i do now. Thank you ❤

[@JoseGonzalez-mz6cf]

Me with a sharpening stone like a caveman

[@raza9tixx]

Oonga boonga uuu aaa

[@77Avadon77]

You don't use your teeth?

[@john050994]

So what this product is, is a Dremel with a flat grinding wheel and a guide? Why wouldn't I just buy a Dremel? It's literally the same thing minus the guide and it will serve many more functions. Plus you can get a Dremel 4000 2/30 for like 85 bucks instead of this for $130 before shipping and taxes. If you don't have the dexterity to put a point on an electrode with a Dremel then you should probably pick a different career.

[@jeffgood6441]

Cut a hole in that guard it comes with so u can spin it perfect fuck this guy he has it up so much higher in the first clip advertising these things

[@altonb93]

Well said🫡

[@seansmith1725]

Right!

[@kefpull6676]

Shh....🤫 (They're selling the overpriced product)

[@micahhorton5252]

I worked at a shop that just dragged their tungsten perpendicular on a belt sander. Literally cannot tell the difference between that and diamond wheel grind. I've been welding in various industries for 8 years and it doesn't really matter that much.

[@svndwich977]

Cordless drill and a belt sander gets the best results I’ve found. Spin them in opposite ways and it’ll come out almost perfect.

[@wannabe_nomad]

You underestimate my skill with a grinder

[@bradybaldwin4974]

Drill and any sort of grinder 👌

[@mdouglaswray]

GREAT video of the arc!

[@franktaylor7617]

Bought one of those little 3" bench grinders. It has like a Scotch Bright wheel. I tacked a couple pieces of rod to the little table as a guide. Set the table angle and use the rod to keep the tungsten straight and you can easily spin it. Works great, cheap, very portable and no score marks. I have 3 sections for different angles. Don't have to spend a lot of money especially if you're just a hobbyest.

[@mattcaesar5781]

Heres a tip when using a bench grinder. Put it in a portable drill and spin it while grinding.

[@NathanPalmer]

This is what I’ve always done too.

[@tiejdzsi6224]

On a belt sander it comes as good as on tungsten grinder 😎

[@williamvaughan1218]

I need one of these. As a amateur I'm grinding alot!

[@robboss1839]

Amazing short. So much info in seconds. I knew this but the reminder and quality tool example were A1 and to the point

[@TheElderOne2003]

Haha 😄 this is funny as hell.

[@ranacherian]

When you use lava rock on the bench grinder.

[@projectdirtbikes]

🤣

[@davidwilder7109]

Always chucked the tungsten up in a drill and put a fine wheel on the grinder, and it makes an extremely fine tip.

[@riverotterluresericdenson9216]

Because you can't use a bench grinder don't mean that everyone can't.

[@dankvaderzim5316]

Now to polish the tip with some 6000 grit and see what that looks like

[@glaucus7609]

just git gud

[@altonb93]

Best piece of advice for someone that isn’t gud

[@trucker826]

Thus video is genuinely helpful and thank you!

[@zimonjazimonja3152]

We grind it on angle grinder in the field and never no problems

[@rockhayes2641]

if you can weld don't matter how you sharpen it.

[@JohnnyRabbitQC]

Saying this shows you didn't weld enough with TIG

[@delpedrob6994]

Bro weld aluminium

[@reyescastellanoz4688]

That's why you always grind your tungsten in a straight downward motion and not crossways and you'll never have a problem ! Always grind vertical, never horizontal because the arc follows the grind

[@daveg9160]

Or its called being professional or a rookie.

[@INeedAboutTreeFitty]

It literally says for beginners, guy.

[@arshaghazie]

i really dont know why this welding stuff was recommended to me, but as a guy I'm satisfied

[@zsteppin8249]

This was only thing I needed to get started learning to weld

[@ryanb1776murica]

Whoever designed this definitely hasn’t tig welded before 💀

[@ckizer1876]

You can get a good smooth grind if your experienced on a belt or any grinder…

[@thebigcheese8715]

My instructor taught me to use a drill and a bench grinder. Works perfectly and it's fast

[@m_a_s6069]

Kind of sus comparison, but these tungsten grinders really help to get a consistently-angled point.

[@Roadster12156]

now ive finally seen a decent grind... im watching youtubers grind the tungsten completey horizontal.. then give welding techniques to get around the problems they might have created..

[@david.geo6878]

I wish my dad was still alive to show him this video...however despite being self trained and not a professional he was one hell of a welder, can only imagine how much better he'd be with the tungsten

[@landscapingspecialist]

Yeah I picked one up when I started using the tig process on my machine. It’s a fantastic repeatable way to easily keep your tungsten clean and sharp.

[@ericmcdonkey]

Waste of money just a grinder which you gotta have anyway and a drill to turn the tungsten is faster and I usually cut all my tungsten in half and sharpen both sides that way if you do touch the metal just flip it and keep going

[@ForgeDuLys]

Use the side of the grinding wheel for a nice smoother finish. I sharpen my knives on my bench grinder, but i use the side. It works really well

[@1Himiko7Toga]

I thought bro was sharpening a nail 😂 i was like do you need to do that?

[@ModifiedTaco]

Great advice!!!

[@ckane510]

We’ll you point is sharper on the tungsten grinder hence the finer point when welding with it.

[@spoofer20]

Whats more important is the wheel on the bench grinder, what material it is made of. Tungsten grinders have their use though, they can be portable and high efficiency, being able to grind tungsten in the field is crucial sometimes.

[@JRKudlick77]

I put out decent welds even on a bench grinder, just as long as your tungsten in north and south, it's still a decent arc

[@JeffinTD]

I did the Amazon 4” diamond wheel, cheapest HF angle grinder, drilled a hole and welded a nut to the guide and basically drilled out a scrap of angle aluminum for a guide. Then cheap HF welding clamp got welded to a muffler clamp, so I can clamp the whole thing to the bench. Touching up a tip I find dremel size grinder ok, but if you want to grind a new point on a pack of new tungstens the torque of even a cheap angle grinder…

[@sonictundra1909]

I was taught to put the tungsten in a drill and take it to a fine belt sander. Never had a problem with it and really just needed to make sure it didn't crack or get too hot.

[@macthesmac]

I need to learn how to weld. I may take a class this summer

[@JohnDoe-rx3vn]

Use a worn out 120 grit pad on a DA/orbital sander. Hold the sander in the air and the pad will spin

[@carlkimball458]

Whatching a tig weld is so beautiful.

[@dennisbusch7867]

Thanks for that knowledge ❤

[@toosurreal6170]

"Hey bro, got a sharpner?" "Yeah, let me just turn on my tungsten grinder first."

[@just_some_guy14]

Fine grit linisher for the win 🙌 leaves em smooth as butter

[@DarkPhoenix203Ct]

Damn, that's a huge difference right there. Talk about a great commercial to sell your product

[@geetarman2459]

Really does make all the difference

[@SamKBlang]

Love it, it's perfect for nails too. They go in first try everytime

[@kekkek7888]

lol, at work we make the cone much longer (sharper angle) like 4x of that in the video, and it works nice

[@_FJB_]

Bench grinder gives me very good results. Don't use aggressive wheels unless you dipped but then finish with something finer.

[@isaks3243]

I always use a cordless drill to hold the tungsten and grind the tungsten on a flap disc. Nothing beats it

[@shawnclements14]

I agree a good grind is super important, but a bench grinder can work if you use the proper grit

[@metalmeatman]

"Angle grinder with 120 grain pad" ( monocle Winnie the Pooh )😂

[@parthwighe1102]

Understandable, have a great day.

[@tonisiqueira9543]

Bela demonstração de como é importante o polimento do tungstênio da maneira correta 🇧🇷🙏

[@BedroomMachinist]

I used to grind my welders tungsten for them on the precision surface grinder with a spinner, they came out beautiful

[@3dmazter]

The green stone that comes with a dremel works just as well.

[@cmdrcoveryfire5900]

Looks like the bench grinder one was ground with too course a stone. It kind looks like it was also probably a stone that was used for mixed metal.

[@jacobhorn4784]

I get them pretty good with the bench grinder. Put the tungsten in your drill and get er done. But I will say the Diamond wheel and guide were one of my favorite purchases cause then your dead on. I mostly use thoriated tungsten which will emit alpha particles so if your grinding them be careful.

[@Hey_zues420]

We had a course wheel and a finer wheel on our bench grinder to really get that point sharp and smooth surface.

[@TheZebinator]

I use a dedicated bench grinder for grinding tungsten, it's a closed off chamber where you stick the rod down a hole and spin it around

[@Yohasbing]

I have a grinder at work that looks like a pencil sharpener. Just select the angle and then put it in and twist it and you can have a long or short tip in like 2 seconds.

[@SMOKESESH1.7]

If you don’t have a lot of money, they sell diamond grinder wheels for 10$ at harbour freight and fit into a dremel or screw gun. You won’t get the precise angle but you will get the smooth tungsten that doesn’t split or wonder. The tungsten grinders work amazing and definitely worth the money but when I just started out and was buying everything I needed, little things like this can get you by until you can get the proper tools for the job.

[@daxlangeveld6053]

Awesome tool for sure but it’s also important to be able to do it without that jig so that you don’t have to rely on it

[@eastwoodco]

The tool doesn't use a jig - it's just for demonstration purposes.

[@Critter145]

More concentrated vs more irregularly controlled electric field. Fascinating.

[@deanbrandsma617]

i’ve never welded in my life but i’m obsessed with this side of youtube

[@djketoldaluusbkabel585]

My collegue uses an angle grinder and he just makes the end a blunt rod, his welds look "perfect"!👍

[@hunterdeardurff4386]

I like to look at that arc.

[@ThatOneGuySometime]

I just use a 220 grit ceramic belt on the belt grinder. Angles are whatever you want and much smother than either options shown here. I can get a 12° grind on my tungsten for super fine work if need be.

[@sspp3065]

Used to bench grind because those tungsten grinders can get pricey.First time using one,and yes they are nice and can get really nice slopes on the tungsten.

[@matts9371]

Try the chemical tungsten sharpener. I liked using it myself as it puts a polished finish on my rods.

[@chrisburch2610]

I use a drill and have a designated angle grinder with a couple holes drilled in the shield to position the tungsten in…i also used the back smooth side of a nitro wheel that i liked

[@praisejeebus7544]

I love how they show the bench grinder tip is ground, very imtentionally, flat, like its impossible to do

[@polyclot1976]

In the navy, our weld shop on the carrier had a enclosed tungsten grinder with dedicated exhaust ventilation. I thought that was standard

[@InchFab]

Lol nah

[@imchris5000]

the trick to grinding tungsten on the bench grinder is to chuck it into a drill you end up with a real clean point

[@derekbryant6137]

And for those of you who don't know that's a great product they're selling there but they make a wheel dresser Ford bench grinders to put that centergrove in that extra fine grinding wheel for the bench grinder so that you can make a ultra-smooth grind on a Tungsten