Beginner with $30,000 RED vs PRO with $600 DSLR

[@KingBradley0769]

Me who knows nothing about photography or cinematography: hmmm interesting

[@scytheaxie1154]

Same dude

[@genial55matt]

Me an expert already know who is going to win

[@scytheaxie1154]

we're not talking about who would win, we're talking how interesting photography and CINEMATOGRAPHY is.

[@krane15]

Good news, everybody starts out that way.

[@ARSEGROFC]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2e7dmSBedB9Zrs

[@josephkurian7426]

“hmm 6k and 1080p cant tell the difference “ -me watching in 144p

[@israkf1001]

Lol

[@CogitoErgoSum67]

This made me laugh way too hard 😂😂

[@shinchan8588]

😂😂😂

[@arigatoplay]

😅😅😅

[@catfish_lude]

yep

[@infinity4792]

“It’s not the gear, it’s the skills” *me taking pictures with a laptop webcam*

[@techguru4374]

😖😖

[@shredwithmeg8080]

Ha lol

[@ommagnum3519]

LMAOO

[@dadangx255]

😎

[@britishdude2248]

This killed me 😂

[@lepyrolink182]

"Yo, how long have you been working here?" "About five weeks or so..." "Cool. Hold this. It's worth 30k."

[@Yahmeen]

"This lil dinky $600 Canon" My pockets: oh the disrespect

[@hanniballecter5383]

Ikr

[@umarahsan7195]

Ikr

[@todo3762]

ikr

[@jujasname]

Ikr

[@focused313]

Lol.... Exactly.

[@MDSaqlainNawezChowdhourySeyam]

me: never touched a camera, never searched for filming related videos youtube: hmmm, lets suggest him this video

[@Adiyan4]

Bangladeshi?

[@MDSaqlainNawezChowdhourySeyam]

@@Adiyan4 yes

[@Adiyan4]

@@MDSaqlainNawezChowdhourySeyam Nice to see a fellow Bangladeshi in an International comment section

[@MDSaqlainNawezChowdhourySeyam]

@@Adiyan4 hope we find more..

[@YusufAli-cf8fp]

@@MDSaqlainNawezChowdhourySeyam You succeeded

[@DaFuqBoom]

The key is editing, apparently. The editing in second one was better thus commercial was better.

[@giangian7188]

Dafuq Boom!!! I see you in so mamy videos

[@331Dylan]

I think the composition of the shot from the pro is far better. The shot is so interesting and the boots really stand out. Prove that everything needs experience. Respect to all the photographer and cinematographer.

[@randomesteven3935]

The thing is.. This is true. There are people who take great shots with average gear, setting up the camera perfectly for the scene and do little in post edit. And I've seen close friends who provide photoshooting services who takes mediocre shots and piles on heavy editing to bring out the best of their shots. Believe me, their colour balance and scene looks skewed in my opinion.

[@danielvickers7661]

Josh did the editing

[@sidmax2037]

nah bro i can tell the difference,,, the beginner was always out of focus,,he couldnt manage the gear

[@sasmills]

Josh is gonna do amazing things if he continues. How he utilized what he had, the mountains, the glass on the ground... If he combines that ability to strategically utilize existing environment with the "math" and the fine tuning experience, he'll be one to reckon with

[@jojocluddy2534]

Yes, absolutely!

[@vaporboard]

Josh Is going to stare into your soul.

[@antoinehusser6142]

For me the 600$ DSLR is already a pro camera xD

[@arieldavila7953]

for me, too!! 😂😂

[@krane15]

Nothing under $1500. Most would say $3000.

[@divineangel606]

I havent seen 600$ in my life

[@matanai8883]

@@divineangel606 i am not alone.....

[@JL-be1fw]

@@krane15 gh5 g9 they are all under 1500 depending where your from

[@dethhe]

parker: “its not the gear, its the skill” josh: *offended*

[@babyyoda2190]

That’s what I wa rethinking lol

[@BeingDengineer]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4imZqydlLR6bJY

[@nickoangelo9156]

Anyone else feels like he was bias towards Jake?

[@nickoangelo9156]

Just to make his point... lol

[@babyyoda2190]

Nicko Angelo Yes he was

[@MrMoxycotton]

“It’s not the gear that makes it” *5 minutes later* “ having the gear really does make a difference”

[@yenahh6954]

k

[@MattRandallProductions]

context is key. He clearly said good gear makes a difference. Despite all these people telling us constantly you don't need good gear to make good video, we all know that good gear makes a difference. It would be foolish to think it doesn't make any difference at all. Otherwise, no one would have good gear. But it's not gonna make ALL the difference.

[@dumbslum597]

Comment out of context?

[@AKSHAY-eb6ie]

😂

[@wieg007]

It makes ~A~ difference, not ~THE~ difference

[@MacVGaming]

I love Josh's style more. Even though he is called a rookie he has natural artistic talent. Like I lived his more then the vet :) with some more practice you can make some pretty amazing g stuff Josh! Keep it up

[@prasiejesus9957]

Hey! I just want to tell you to get it right with God Before you leave this World. God is one and great and all of us humans owe God because we have broken His laws that are carved in our hearts and known as God's ten commandments. The Bible says that there is not one good man and that everyone is condemned by God to pay the price for their sin and that is death. God is great and he is our judge he will judge us for our sin and we can not do anything about it because God can not just ignore sin. thus we all deserve death. But God he was gracious to us humans and had his son Jesus sacrificed on the cross for your and my sin so that we would not be lost and suffer in the eternal fire. It is written in the Bible: John 3:16 God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. so instead of you dying JESUS ​​died on the cross he was mocked, beaten, whipped for you just for you, he could at any second call down angels to help him on the cross but no he chose to suffer for you and on that way God showed that he loved you. So turn to God and believe in him through Jesus it is the only way to eternal life with God. God also transformed me because he did disgusting things, but when I received Jesus, God began to do his work in me and thanks to the Lord I am saved. Please do not ignore this because I do not want you my sister or brother to be lost. but through Jesus there is not a single way to God for God is just he can not just forget your sin as long as nothing has paid for your sin and Jesus did. think of a court you are convicted of a punishment the judge will not remove your punishment for the good stuff you have done no he will judge you for the bad ones. but if someone pays your penalty then you are free to go. Seek the Lord. Pray with me: Lord I know I have sinned against me but I apologize and I want to be saved through the blood of Christ forgive me and guide me towards your kingdom God Amen.

[@sashamugs]

that's what happens when you're starting out when you learn more about technicalities the creativity is stripped as you try to cater to the technical to make that aspect good

[@vincenttop10]

Yes. I agree that

[@PBHProductions]

Now make the professional edit in Windows Movie Maker!

[@seankauffman6303]

that is what I edited my first wedding on

[@DaJeanius]

Love this idea

[@NicConnerImages]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@BookOfBrett]

....ew

[@BookOfBrett]

@@fulltimefilmmaker exactly. Pro videos aren't edited on sh*t software.

[@Lenny-mz3gp]

Josh looks like he’s just dying inside when they’re calling his stuff bad

[@Brothaishmael]

Its like there shiting on him

[@aurorainthesky4098]

LifeStyleBoys yeah I noticed that poor him

[@aurorainthesky4098]

TBBTFreeVideos yeah...

[@ryanowen3026]

Yeh man

[@Lenny-mz3gp]

xDestinGames yh but they didn’t have to post it all over the internet

[@BirinderSingh]

Alternate title- "Bashing Josh for 11 minutes and 8 seconds straight"

[@morgananderson2246]

Hahaha exactly, poor dude

[@kagakudoragon]

IKR

[@haydensmith807]

Yeah tru

[@nguyentrananhnguyen7900]

(sorry for my bad english) Josh is new to the game, this video is like a push for him to keep going forward, it's not bashing at all

[@incognitojayy]

😂😂😂

[@abia5071]

I like the premise of this, pretty cool idea, but Josh seriously deserves more credit. His shots were creative and done really well, especially for only have 5 weeks of experience!! His progress is crazy in such a short period of time!

[@nightcoder5k]

Josh's ad is not bad for a beginner. Being around Parker, I'm sure he'll improve. Jake's commercial looks awesome.

[@terribriggs143]

Yes he did a great job right there

[@adammikhail2420]

Yup, nailed it

[@mysticfakir2029]

They should have gotten a 3rd person to edit both so it was all about composition and camera skills

[@nightcoder5k]

@@mysticfakir2029 Good idea, maybe Parker can set that up for the next round. :)

[@dsalainti]

5weeks experience for a video like that is insane 😱🔥

[@htstuff7721]

The way he keeps saying ' 600$ ' makes me feel so poor 😂

[@1.z7ii]

مسيحيين مايقدرون النعمه

[@Komaruuu]

@Papa Bear **Arabic Nokia ringtone plays**

[@Komaruuu]

@وردة سيرا I know right? 🤣

[@marguskiis7711]

In the aftermarket they are way cheaper tho

[@Komaruuu]

Y’all really agreed with the “ha ha😐” guy lmao

[@anhu92]

ok but Josh's edit is REALLY good for 5 weeks. Shows how having a mentor is a game changer as well

[@jas_bataille]

Yes, but ultimately, the mentor doesn't matter all that much. YOU matter... ... ;)

[@tonivoul1971]

Yea whatever is about skill either If you have a teacher is a game changer

[@cynthistar124]

Personally I preferred the beginner one, not just because of the quality, but because of the angles. The pro did a lot of far angles which personally felt a bit less creative. PLUS he did way cooler shots such as the model walking over the glass and him looking over the fence while "TAFT" popped up. Well done, Josh.

[@hamfromburger]

Exactly. The pro’s version was just bad for a commercial shooting. No product, bad skin tone, and just overall boring to watch. Only the last shot was good in the “professional” one

[@TNerdo]

Editing also makes a big difference, not just the camera skills but also the editing skills

[@JohnPratt95]

That's something they didn't mention. The pacing and flow of Jake's edit was much more refined

[@raxsalunting277]

indeed... photographer without editing skill will never go anywhere..

[@krishwan1]

Haha. True Josh had no color correction 😁

[@Noadvantage246]

@@JohnPratt95 They did mention the editing several times, to then it's post production and it's group in with what they consider overall being a professional.

[@thepeddle]

@@JohnPratt95 they spent half the video stressing that it's ALL about editing....probably should watch again..

[@kishra12]

Everybody: $30.000 vs $600 camera. Me: $600 vs samsung A10 camera.

[@nate6889]

Do you have the a10? And if so, is it good?

[@BosanskaSarma]

@@nate6889 man, no, if your budget is mid range get the a71

[@bravoseis1937]

@@BosanskaSarma or A50 or 51,I have a A20s and it's not that bad, I ain't a camera guy but I need the a shot for Art class and stuff like that. I didn't know the price of the A50 and couldn't buy it in time.

[@problematic_canik]

@@nate6889 as someone who sells t mobile phones. Please do not get the A10 A11 or A21. Horrible phone with little to no ram in 2020. I'f your looking for a A series check out the A50 or A51 and check out swappa.com Cheers.

[@aak8297]

@@nate6889 I am currently using a10 because I floated my previous phone

[@llJeezusll]

They really made that $600 camera seem like a cheap piece of garbage

[@eXpas04]

Xddd lmao felt the same then thought hollup that seems pro to me :Ddd

[@andrewcrocker3534]

In the world of photography.... its as entry level as you can get.

[@behagkhan3513]

I know right -_- feeling personally attacked

[@Ferntheyhuman]

In the world of pro photo and video a $600 camera is a little plastic toy

[@tonygerard4536]

Well, they are obviously on a profesional level, with TV commercials jobs and stuff like that, of course they think 600 it's not on their level, but for us its such an amazing camera obviously

[@swampflux]

I’m impressed with this video. It cuts down to the real deal: skill is worth money. Period. Keep practicing Josh! I’m excited to see you keep growing! And i think you’ve got an extremely good coach there

[@SuperBlizzard77]

I feel like Josh did a better job than he is getting credit for in the video. That shot with shoes over glass was awesome and that wasn't the camera but Josh's creativity.

[@olsonbryce777]

Yeah these guys are lame

[@yourmom4720]

Josh's wasn't good at all. In fact they both suck.

[@johnred8938]

@@yourmom4720 Joe mama

[@anirudhnair6267]

josh made a mistake, his video's focus was more on the guy rather than the shoe... he did get some good shots, but the veteran had shoes in every shot...c'mon you are making shoe advert !! you need to give the shoe more screentime !!

[@brooke3140]

I liked his commercial better. The color was better in the other but I liked his overall vibe. I also dont sell shoes so what do I know.

[@MrHelllllloooooo]

How nervous was Josh handling a 30k camera without any support or strapes. 😰

[@Stephen-hu8ec]

My point exactly 😁😁

[@SmokinStalin]

Why they didnt gave him sum?

[@gamingwithsupermanrr9150]

@stimpy1 the 30k camera has mad insurance. My is $1000 month that covers the camera itself. Expect the lens… lens are covered by separate cost

[@gLOWbalx]

@@gamingwithsupermanrr9150 What are you using?

[@Homeside301]

Bro my wallet is hurting

[@krish6561]

Nvm, they already did it Edit : thx for like

[@theadventurebiker]

Now this is something I wanna see!

[@munawrsa]

Sounds interesting

[@_anargyaa]

Up

[@JudahLee]

I like this!

[@krish6561]

@@daranhamnon3860 iknow, but i really wanna see it :D

[@sasmills]

Josh's video appeals to a rugged man who prioritizes style only as a close second to actual utility. The other guy's video appeals to stylish guys who are trying to get the "rugged" look. Josh could market to adults. The other guy can market to the teenage / young adult crowd who desire to look hip.

[@Friction_Addiction]

Josh's was better in my opinion lmao the other dude just fried those boots till they were bright red

[@Aviciiz]

Accurate and very underrated comment. None of them talked about the actual audience of the video, they just think what they thought was cool.

[@Aviciiz]

@ScrapperNoHand Damn I’m sorry you got your feelings hurt buddy

[@charliesanjaya8013]

Ngl Josh's work looks amazing for someone with a 5 weeks experience

[@shibasalute]

Agreed. Also, was he working off a script? Beginning cameramen should have a script or at least a shot list

[@LordZangePhoswe]

Hey man damn he didn't even colour correct

[@racecardriverrr4201]

don't want to discredit his performance but a lot of knowledge can be learnt in 5 weeks

[@prasiejesus9957]

Hey! I just want to tell you to get it right with God Before you leave this World. God is one and great and all of us humans owe God because we have broken His laws that are carved in our hearts and known as God's ten commandments. The Bible says that there is not one good man and that everyone is condemned by God to pay the price for their sin and that is death. God is great and he is our judge he will judge us for our sin and we can not do anything about it because God can not just ignore sin. thus we all deserve death. But God he was gracious to us humans and had his son Jesus sacrificed on the cross for your and my sin so that we would not be lost and suffer in the eternal fire. It is written in the Bible: John 3:16 God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. so instead of you dying JESUS ​​died on the cross he was mocked, beaten, whipped for you just for you, he could at any second call down angels to help him on the cross but no he chose to suffer for you and on that way God showed that he loved you. So turn to God and believe in him through Jesus it is the only way to eternal life with God. God also transformed me because he did disgusting things, but when I received Jesus, God began to do his work in me and thanks to the Lord I am saved. Please do not ignore this because I do not want you my sister or brother to be lost. but through Jesus there is not a single way to God for God is just he can not just forget your sin as long as nothing has paid for your sin and Jesus did. think of a court you are convicted of a punishment the judge will not remove your punishment for the good stuff you have done no he will judge you for the bad ones. but if someone pays your penalty then you are free to go. Seek the Lord. Pray with me: Lord I know I have sinned against me but I apologize and I want to be saved through the blood of Christ forgive me and guide me towards your kingdom God Amen. L

[@shinchan8588]

No body is talking about the skills of the guy who recorded this video 😂

[@pots5199]

plot twist: it was jake who filmed the whole video

[@sarbjitsingh7319]

@@pots5199 pehli fursat me nikal

[@Hitman-px8sl]

@@sarbjitsingh7319 ?

[@nOOBOFCONSOLe]

@@Hitman-px8sl actually sarbjit sing is saying "GET LOST IN EARLY MORNING" 😑

[@leeroyntini3950]

shinchan 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@TimothyJFrancis]

Seeing as you’ve shone the spotlight on Josh’s lack of ability, would seem really inspiring to feature his work after 6 mo, then 12 mo, 18 mo, 24 mo, and really highlight how he’s rapidly improving. Plus, bonus for you, if he makes big gains, it will really highlight the quality of your teaching. I’m in Josh’s corner, cheering him on. Stick with the process and reach for the stars, Josh... you got this!!

[@jakubcisar6576]

Im gonna say my opinion on this, even if i dont know thing about photoshooting, yet knowing the saying equipment doesnt make the difference, experience does etc from woodwork. Josh had the best camera, didn't make the best job while doing this 5 weeks. Jake didnt have best gear, didnt make the best job. nothing is the best. Josh didnt have those colors THAT vibrant, but those shoes were colored... like real shoes. Jake had those colors, but technically lied with that shoe color. My point probably is, you can make PRO looking commercial, but sacrifice the full truth of the shot and also you can make truthful shot while sacrificing the pro-looking.

[@00hydraburst]

@@jakubcisar6576 That really doesn't make sense. It doesn't matter if it looks "fake", the point of a commercial is to make things look appealing so that they can sell the product. What you probably mean is a difference in editing style, Jake clearly has much more experience in editing and framing his shots whereas Josh does not.

[@catcher881]

That's actually a really good video idea.

[@tejasbinu5025]

@@jakubcisar6576 I think you are mixing things up... Professionals have different tastes. Some of them tend to prefer more natural looks while some don't. "Looking PRO" doesn't imply "less natural" necessarily. In this case, I think what he meant was out of the professionals who do tend to not mind "lying", this is the way they would do it. There are professionals who tend to stick to more natural means but they still have to tweak the pictures to add finishing touches. When you say "not pro", I'm pretty sure you mean to say the natural one done professionally. Whichever it is, "not pro looking" literally means this is what NOT to do if you want to get better from being an amateur.

[@AFFI909]

Bro if you start on something you want to get better right. How would you get better if you are not able to take critisism. Im sure josh apreciates them pointing out what could be better and what went wrong. Either way you cant learn anything or get better if you yourself dont know what your doing wrong.

[@TheJaniable]

This is so subjective, as an outsider I really liked Josh's shots more.

[@jimmyjones5492]

As someone who worked in one of Berlins best communication agencies: Josh's: - smooth artsy modern feel - needs colour work - focus could be too inconsistent - has a great alternative vibe Jake's: - classic modern ad feel - classic colouring - frame composition on point - misses an experimental uniqueness, still everything works perfect Both did an excellent work, still both have a totally different vibe of storytelling, artsy experimental vs. classic ad

[@africanhistory]

misses an experimental uniqueness,-- DISAGREE, too subjective to call. If those were my boots I would be happy--and that is what matters. Its not an art film-- its a commercial. And ppl vibe with what they are familiar with. Hence why Marvel always is the same.

[@jimmyjones5492]

@@africanhistory did you read on before you chose to take on a position to feel being right? :) it's perfect as it is, still misses a little experimental attitude for me personally to standout:) you re welcome to disagree, but not act like i would have said it's a bad commercial, or that it misses the point. It's still perfect as it is

[@morganirosonna2871]

@@jimmyjones5492 I have to agree with you. I know nothing about cameras or editing. But the shots and final commercial told me, yeah that's a boots ad. Even the positioning of text and the ending shot was a classic. Not a bad thing but definitely not experimental.

[@Γιάννης-ξ8μ]

Also: ehm bad color correction from Jakes side. I feel those boots do not look like red clay but more like brown. If those boots also came in red clay color it wouldn't be an issue since that option would exist. But if it doesn't it's a huge misleading information that would fool the consumer. But other than that, Jake's is the clear winner. The other kid had really amazing ideas and within a year he is going to be on a whole another level

[@boyinred703]

The cameraman who filmed them was probably better than both of them XD

[@sameerhafeez7029]

They were the cameramen

[@julesfalcone]

@@sameerhafeez7029 he means the guy shooting this video.

[@NotHarpoGroucho]

😂

[@shutop7321]

Haha

[@robblackwell80]

T-RUTH

[@iicordii648]

The boots walking over the glass was one of the best shots I’ve seen in a while. Everything you said is understandable but, you should definitely shine light on the creativity. With some color correction, I’d have to put my vote for Josh. All he needed was to focus on the boots a little more and to brighten some shit up.

[@smelvin8568]

@@laurabrown7201 stfu

[@prasiejesus9957]

Hey! I just want to tell you to get it right with God Before you leave this World. God is one and great and all of us humans owe God because we have broken His laws that are carved in our hearts and known as God's ten commandments. The Bible says that there is not one good man and that everyone is condemned by God to pay the price for their sin and that is death. God is great and he is our judge he will judge us for our sin and we can not do anything about it because God can not just ignore sin. thus we all deserve death. But God he was gracious to us humans and had his son Jesus sacrificed on the cross for your and my sin so that we would not be lost and suffer in the eternal fire. It is written in the Bible: John 3:16 God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. so instead of you dying JESUS ​​died on the cross he was mocked, beaten, whipped for you just for you, he could at any second call down angels to help him on the cross but no he chose to suffer for you and on that way God showed that he loved you. So turn to God and believe in him through Jesus it is the only way to eternal life with God. God also transformed me because he did disgusting things, but when I received Jesus, God began to do his work in me and thanks to the Lord I am saved. Please do not ignore this because I do not want you my sister or brother to be lost. but through Jesus there is not a single way to God for God is just he can not just forget your sin as long as nothing has paid for your sin and Jesus did. think of a court you are convicted of a punishment the judge will not remove your punishment for the good stuff you have done no he will judge you for the bad ones. but if someone pays your penalty then you are free to go. Seek the Lord. Pray with me: Lord I know I have sinned against me but I apologize and I want to be saved through the blood of Christ forgive me and guide me towards your kingdom God Amen.

[@NCTXVA]

definitely learn to pull focus......

[@luchogomez4033]

yeah NO.

[@silaswolfe381]

the subtle rack focusing was HOT

[@kayv5840]

Josh was really good for a rookie. Like many others have mentioned, I also really liked the shot he captured with the glass! I think it’s worth noting how it was probably the first time he shot with a RED camera, so he may not have been comfortable yet. Meanwhile, Jake being a professional, he most likely has some experience with a camera similar to the one he used in this video so there is some level of familiarity. Both did a great job!! I’m learning from all three of you in this video. I just saved up and bought a camera around $600, so it makes me feel better to know what is possible with a camera of that price range (with both practice & learning to edit of course). I plan to have clients within the next year. 🙏

[@yossishapiro4439]

Wow! There are so many of these "Cheap camera vs expensive camera" videos, but this is by far the best one!!!!

[@SusanAyinkamiye]

Exactly this is far the best 👌guess I should really put my camera to use

[@SSKMusicBeats]

💯

[@nanaisbae9272]

Exactly they went straight into it unlike others hitting a whole 360 before the video

[@ansondhakim]

most of the pro are unbiased as they uses preset

[@EugeneLeung1026]

yes true, straight to the point, good explanation, and some good comparisons

[@husbandrew]

Josh's shots were way more creative than jakes, the walking through glass and the boot cross was incredible. Jake 'color corrected' the "BROWN" boots so much they look like red clay. I'd love to see what Josh is doing in 5 years.

[@luisfilipe5043]

Exactly!

[@HungryArtistTV420]

I agree, despite the focus being off, and a few mistakes. I like how the Red camera commercial came put, and I did not like the color grading on the second video with the DSLR.

[@MasterBronzeElite]

Creativity is not always good, and it also is only one factor. In general, Josh's commercial was simply not as good, aesthetic, and professional as Jake's.

[@nguyentrananhnguyen7900]

@Kira you talk as if any "pro" in any profession call themselves "pro" are all scam there're always reasons they are the "pro" of their field, the hardware is just a tool mate and just as you said, it's the knowledge that make the difference

[@janis23]

@Kira Well, yes all you need to know is composition, framing how to tell a story and know how how to post process images and all that you can gain in many years of shooting. I have a good camera and I have software to post process and I have basic understanding of photography but I am nowhere near those you call scam pros. If that is so easy why not everyone become a photographer? Why people still use their services? They have years of experience and that makes them pro. You can apply that to any skill, not just photography.

[@sirdk1234]

"dinky" 600 dollar camera.. like 600 bucks isnt expensive.

[@drcheese1000]

Sadly it’s not in the camera world 😭😭😭

[@GeneralKenobi69420]

For an average joe it can seem expensive, but you have to remember that in the professional world a single lens alone can cost more than a car

[@impossabear4096]

Cheaper than an iphone

[@future2228]

That’s cheap as hell if you’re in a professional field.

[@lenjaminbang]

cameras are just expensive what do you expect

[@alberto_pereda]

Despite the gear, I think Josh conception, music and framing is more memorable

[@marktheshark1799]

I wanted Josh to talk more. He seems like a chill dude.

[@rishifernando6630]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKuaaXSgeriSr68

[@AC-zj2er]

I agree. At least get some of his feedback with using the Red and his creative train of thought. Instead of a comparison, they always spotlight and focus on how well the pro does with cheaper gear and get his thoughts/video time.

[@Who-Uhm-Cares]

Hope we see him more. It would make him comfortable with talking more on when filmed.

[@DoraiburuStudios]

The main difference I notice which they did not mention is that Josh's video may work better as an ad for a clothing company or store that sells the whole fashion package rather than only the boots. It may also work if a celebrity is endorsing the boots. As the client may want to focus on both the celebrity and their product. Josh treated it like a general Cinematography project and did his best coming up with a creative solution. Jake on the other hand focused on creating an ad for shoes. All shots had the model with shoes and the focus was always on shoes. This shows how much experience Jake has working with Clients. He knows exactly what to film according to the situation.

[@theadventurebiker]

This.

[@sandytorreslifelessons4155]

He addressed that in the video.

[@VinceSalesYT]

@@sandytorreslifelessons4155 maybe he didn't finished the video lol

[@NBASFAN]

Yeah he didn't even finish watching...

[@DoraiburuStudios]

@@sandytorreslifelessons4155 Read a few other comments on Josh's video so wanted to share my view that his video will work better for a Client looking for an ad for a store or clothing line.

[@DanielEarl]

RED camera: Imma 'bout to end this man's whole career. *randomly shuts off

[@SustainableGal]

Yeah looks like that thing eats vlok batteries

[@shzwon123]

Red Camera Raws: I'mma 'bout to crash this man's whole Premier Pro timeline with this giant 6k sausage.

[@SSKMusicBeats]

@@shzwon123 😄

[@KN-mi7mh]

Lmaoo

[@ereboysierra]

qq

[@null035]

Josh has astounding creativity. Just 5 weeks of experience? Impressive.

[@leeroyntini3950]

“What experience can teach you that gear can’t teach you” I felt that.

[@mlchaelz2134]

Jake: I'm so excited to see Josh's video! Josh: 🗿

[@LNI977]

😂😂

[@unknownpsi9128]

🗿

[@Lonequasar42]

Well josh did not have the chance to say anything too. Kinda weird

[@keyzee-6612]

He's npc dude💀

[@Limpass610]

@@keyzee-6612 poor guy is not used to be in front of the camera

[@ThisIsBigMike]

Can't wait to see Josh's stuff in 5 years. He did really good!

[@duv1544]

True

[@Whaterman1]

Thats what she said

[@rishifernando6630]

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[@AaronDuhsaka]

@@Whaterman1 lol

[@dmo530]

Jake completely distorted the color of the boots with all of his adjustments.

[@stigstig9275]

Next: let's see what a beginner can do in an F1 car against Lewis Hamilton in a Lamborghini Aventador

[@mist1714]

Carcrash:p

[@itzcyclonix2193]

He won't resist the g forces haha, but hey maybe a golf against a Senna can be 😂

[@lukealexander3191]

Lewis will win

[@duckboy_]

@@lukealexander3191 Really? Wow. That was a tough one to choose between.

[@southlondon86]

Let’s make it a little fair: what if Lewis Hamilton was smoking DMT while driving the Lambo?

[@cyurenes9961]

Josh’s face when they were talking about what he did poorly...

[@whatevenariel2002]

:/ gotta be able to take criticism and run with it. It’s not personal.

[@revenaan]

Though I personally don‘t think it was bad at all, I was actually really impressed

[@GothBatty]

The shots are trash af from josh. He’s still learning how much of what to have in each shot. It’s not just holding a camera 😹🤦🏽‍♀️

[@revenaan]

Ryann Taylor looking at you music videos you‘re noone to judge

[@jeffreyandia5179]

Well he's an intern, he's there to learn not to be perfect

[@TheBritishMelonn]

Ngl Josh did a sick job.

[@laurabrown4675]

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[@dylandrin]

the color correction and palette on the second one brings out the boots more, but that is all post and has nothing to do with the camera quality. what DOES have to do with the camera quality and skill level is the composition and the focus of the shots. josh has good ideas, but lacks experience. jake has great quality, but a traditional almost repetitive feel. overall i can 900% say its not about the gear, it’s about the experience, time, and effort put in that will determine an end product.

[@andersonjackiesrandallfern8115]

JOSH is the only one that had a MEMORABLE shot. That shallow DOF of the boot walking over glass was awesome and unique!

[@cat90yearsago58]

Someone replied Joe mama

[@johnred8938]

@@cat90yearsago58 Joe mama

[@deivshdz9565]

Nahh his comercial wasnt bad but the other one with a freaking $600 dollar camera looked fire 🔥🔥🔥

[@factsnchill168]

I mean, it was easier to do due to the top handle.

[@seanharnack4196]

Am I the only one that likes Josh's commercial better than Jakes? I like how the actor didn't end up back where he started, the colors were not oversaturated/overblown, and it felt more genuine to me.

[@DeliberateConfusion]

You're certainly in the overwhelming minority.

[@marvin6844]

I think josh was better. Same thoughts.

[@Tjspycorp]

I would agree with you. But an executive in a sales environment would not

[@TheHonestTruth]

I like it much better

[@timlopez4656]

Personally I really did like Josh's better I feel like he was selling the shoe better rather then just doing some fancy shots. like it was a good touch how he made him walk through the broken glass like saying these shoes look good but they're also rugged I feel like what did jake show that displayed why should i buy theses shoes.

[@david_djent]

I actually prefer Josh's pacing in the edit, the issue with Josh's was the out of focus shots but I was a fan of his framing and storytelling more

[@ucopyusuf1500]

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[@lisitska]

yeah I like Josh's one as well, it has the aesthetics and stuff in it

[@BeingDengineer]

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[@Sanirosan]

What storystelling? They were just a bunch of slow mo shots

[@TheLittleMinion]

Same. I thought I was alone in this opinion.

[@DevMoSofi]

The gears make a huge difference when you have the skills to start with. As a senior web developer, I can write high-quality code on a computer from the 90s but it will make me very slow.

[@Azrealon]

Yes experience do make the difference, when I was in my junior high school I got into a photography competition, and at that time I can't afford to have a decent camera, so i grab my dad's Iphone 4s and shoot with it and close the gap between my competitors who are using DSLR cameras by applying my experiences on how to tell story within the picture combined with my basic knowledge of photography and the result of the competition I won 1st place. So I hate it when people who wants to start but alwats whining not having a proper gear.

[@jamesskintauy6773]

This is gold - "applying my experiences on how to tell story within the picture." Well done!

[@hawkboy000]

I like this. I always try and become better instead of just wishing I had a better camera. I recently upgraded from a canon 70d to a canon R. I’m still trying to improve. @eye_ofthelens

[@Azrealon]

@WakinTheDeadFan i did and it still the same, if you only have expensive gear and got no experience or knowledge about photography is still the same, u will only shoot a blank forest without any purpose, have you ever tried it? I bet not 😜 Edit: not even cheap camera I even borrow my friend's phone to be exact.

[@humaedy8623]

@@Azrealon baru tau gua si Abang suka beginian

[@sauliusltcool6902]

Exactly

[@heythere452]

The dude who edited the colors made the boots look completely different than how they look in real life though

[@sincerelysandi]

@@MrTytyjohn64 That's true but the colors of the boots end of looking a different color than what they really are. Joshs looked brown but the other was another brown. I guess its important to not edit so hard.

[@johnpaulnatividad]

I prefer Josh's work, he didn't make any false advertising on the shoe, exact color of the shoe

[@JoshGaboVlogTV]

Yes! I agree! The Jake's brown color its like orange. I prefer Josh too

[@Sesi_angel_india1000]

😂😂

[@frnvito]

yea but a client wouldnt prefer it at all as it isnt giving the product a spotlight.

[@BeetleBuns]

the thing is the camera will "see" colors differently than our eyes, color correction is meant to bring the colors closer to what a person see rather than the flat colors of the camera

[@johnpaulnatividad]

@@BeetleBuns wrong, in advertising you always add colors, brighten it up, removes blemish and stuff, professionals do this because it is deemed more attractive to the eyes of many, the real world isn't really colorful and vibrant there's a difference in adjusting to colors to right amount and just blatantly overdoing it in advertising there is no such thing as color correcting, everything gets bloomed up

[@ultramirai]

I like Josh's commercial, especially the beat drop and low angle, usage of shallow depth of field✨ Hope he will do great videos in the future

[@JohnMcLeanbilldoesjudo]

Really throwing Josh under the bus here. Hope he's getting paid.

[@flipskejan2787]

He learns a lot that’s even better than money

[@lop1657]

@@flipskejan2787 you can't pay bills with experience

[@flipskejan2787]

@@lop1657 you can make a lot of money with your experience

[@busylifehealthywife8535]

I know! I felt so bad for him. He did a good job, especially since he hasn’t been doing this very long.

[@flipskejan2787]

@@busylifehealthywife8535 yeah he did great! But he got an amazing tutor

[@mrsxber1916]

Why tf am I watching this, I cant even take a good selfie😂😂

[@zo7377]

Lmao same lol

[@filipivan5125]

U actually have Josh in animated profile picture thats why 😂😂😂

[@walidfakhfakh3660]

@@filipivan5125 adventure adventure Josh creepy creepy creepy good selfie captions

[@nomadicshai]

I assume yu like young don

[@mrsxber1916]

@@nomadicshai nah, this just looks a hell lot like me so I used it💀

[@grabundant]

Josh’s closeup and flat colors appeared more impactful to primal senses.

[@thepolargang8619]

Josh’s was more cinematic, and Jake’s looks more like an ad.

[@alexanneschronicles]

By the way, 600$ camera is an expensive camera for a lot of us.

[@Raelexx]

yeah they said entry level yet that is like my ultimate

[@rns9644]

Its not expensive if ur pursuing a professional career, not just for a hobby..

[@cinezurdo]

@@rns9644 Exactly. For us, a “reasonable” price is atleast a $1600 camera

[@L0v0lup]

@@cinezurdo Without lense, i hope?

[@cinezurdo]

@@L0v0lup Without lens. With lens it could sometimes add up to 2k

[@aching6652]

Algorithm: you like cameras Me not knowing anything: yes I shall watch

[@jayaseto]

Exactly what I did 😂😂

[@rektenuous1599]

Same 💀

[@TrillionTalents777]

If i was josh, I’d be shitting my pants holding a 30k camera and praying to god I don’t drop this thing. Edit: WOW I was not expecting 1.1k in upvotes! My first popular KZbin comment ever! Thanks 🙏 Edit 2: damn people are weird. Apparently it’s bad to be grateful and saying thanks to people 🙄. Whatever, I’m still thanking people. Thank you! THANK you! Thank YOU! THANK YOU ALL AND HAVE A GOODNIGHT!

[@maddie5427]

omg why was this relatable 😭😂

[@casodadon]

I would sell that shit and grab 2 of the $600 cameras 🤣🤣

[@brigganthewolf1461]

Exactly!

[@hishamgaming71]

Bro..me too 😂😂.

[@lidyarahmah6307]

Oh god, u made my day

[@bobbyshabangu]

Guys, why is Josh not allowed to speak? The shot where the model walks over glass is dope! Plus it's clear that Josh only needs editing experience but he's great.

[@austonr]

It took the beginner a whole day just to process the red footage on premier pro 😂

[@KhariConception]

Right !

[@conorlunt]

You'd be surprised. The R3D codec is amazing, playback in premiere is better than most.

[@loudandclearmedia]

@@conorlunt Exactly. R3D is beautiful...way easier than working with one of the other manufacturers log files.

[@themadhavsharmaphotography7029]

LMAOOO AHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

[@JacobEttinger]

I have an old custom pc that barely runs Sony H.264 files. However when I edit RED 5k, 6k or 8k footage, it plays and renders better.

[@milanxko]

“Professional cinematographer shooting weddings all around the world” 😂😂😂

[@a1graa]

sounds so wrong lmfao

[@denvdenztv6037]

Yes ih he is a cinematographer he makes movies thats it so opposite!

[@adamkent7707]

It's hilarious

[@waflletoast11]

For the people in the back WEDDING VIDEOGRAPHERS ARENT FILMMAKERS

[@ArchIVEDCinema]

@@waflletoast11 What makes you say that?

[@chrispyfade]

Giving someone a RED without a Gimbal, no assistant who's pulling the focus, no tripod, nothing. Just a pro body, lense and monitor. I wouldn't even try to get great shots with that setup. How should you even hold the camera steady and pull the focus by yourself? Well you could try to get decent shots in 120-200fps but you won't be able to get a nice steady shot at 25fps. IMO that RED setup would even lose against an iPhone with a gimbal. And the pro wasn't shooting a commercial which you could charge a "thousand of dollars". He did really good work. With that setup he was using I'd pay him 250 bucks. Like, wow the footage was exposed correctly, nice colors, etc.. But the short ad lacks in detailed composition. I mean the shots were mostly nice but at the end of the clip he's cutting the models head off and he's not pointing at the shoes closely enough. I mean a beginner would do these mistakes... And in one shot the camera is moving to the left and in the next one it's moving to the right. NEVER EVER DO THIS! Well in the end the Pro did a decent job with his setup but the commercial looked like it was shot by someone who's a pro freetime filmmaker. Short: The comparisons just sucks because noone would try to film on a cinecamera without any other pro gear. Like you bought a mercedes S500 but they only delivered the chassis and forgot the interior.

[@mrsxber1916]

Bruh u sound like u know ur shit 😂😂

[@optimicist7774]

@@Ash12345p but he didn't say anything wrong either

[@Skycrafter328]

I work in a different area, which is slightly connected to cinematography so not a pro speaking here. Still I have to agree. This so called „pro“ did a lot of color correction but some of it was pretty bad. As a customer I would habe told him to change it cause it crazily looks unnatural. Also the cuts are quite poor. First the point mentioned above with the camera movement, but also the fact that he has really nice music and just boringly cuts it all in a line without switching some stuff up. Lets just hope thats because they „only“ had one day and in a actual professional commercial he would put more effort and maybe try several options.

[@randomman5188]

Shut up

[@chrispyfade]

@@Ash12345p Yo. I'm studying these kinds of thing. I'd never ever say that I would do it better but I'm able to criticise on a high level. I've already filmed things like these and they were looking good but yeah I also did mistakes. So I can tell out of experience and knowledge what's wrong with these clips.

[@kamisama9715]

Me who doesn't even own a camera: Yes this is relevant information.

[@krisnacahyana1826]

Josh's face when he got roasted by his own cousin is relateable

[@edezaqueeniebuhay1339]

Pro teachers tell what you need to improve more. which is such a hurtful words. But will help you to overcome it. Not a good teacher who's always giving you a sweet words. " You're good!" Then enough. But you will never grow because you don't know what to change or what to improve more.

[@stevenmishchenko3617]

I actually like more Josh's work, those angles, mid out of focus creating those feelings of unknown, and then product in focus with glass. Love that!

[@firefly4140]

Yeah, it is also edited way smoother to the beat. Like the beat drop in the middle and then going by the glass actually looked so good. Jake's commercial just seemed boring and unoriginal. Not hating on him or something like that, but it just seems like that his commercial missed the creativity and ambition of a rookie. Like it obviously is produced in high quality, but if the ideas themselves are boring, it'll still end up being boring. I mean it is a commercial for a pair of shoes but still just the way Josh approached the whole commercial idea was so much better imo.

[@Peel5000]

@@firefly4140 Josh's commercial doesn't even show the product in many angles, and it doesn't tell you what the shoe is, it just says "taft". I personally didn't like the walking in glass part just because it's such a cringe thing I always avoid.

[@richardarredondo792]

@Son of Liberty nah joshes always just better and showed the product better jakes looked like the shoes where red and not what the actual product was

[@LtdJorge]

I think one of the benefits of a camera like a Red is not only the recording quality, but the possibilities that it gives you in post.

[@shiroyasha9613]

Even without the magic of post production I'd still prefer the second one if I were the client, just based on the fact that in every shot my product was in it, specially at that last bit. You want to sell the product not the model. But I guess it's something you learn through experience and Josh already has the talent and creativity, just needs a bit more polishing and experience and he'll be more awesome.

[@tubervstuber3563]

I agree

[@luchogomez4033]

yes, you wrote it as it is, no sugar coting.

[@Slantanoz]

Me: clicks on video about photography Ads about photography: “allow us to introduce ourselves..”

[@aliyahdinmcfee5857]

When the camera they call “dinky” is your fancy, high-end camera 😂

[@cullenderry5255]

Me chillin with my SL1💀

[@joeltempleton1041]

True. And I thought I took nice pictures with my Google pixel 3.

[@StephanieLexis]

Same! I love my SL2! 😂

[@walidfakhfakh3660]

@@StephanieLexis bulshit you can look at them you could look at them

[@Ratniko]

I don’t like how the “story” doesn’t add up in Jake’s commercial. The guy was standing at the door, then walk down the stairs away etc and then several shots later he leaves the building passing the same door where the whole video started

[@cacekayse]

not all commercial needs to be a story

[@peptobismolveins]

Yeah should’ve played Romeo and Juliet in front on my eyes to make me buy those boots, smh

[@2kmichaeljordan438]

Yeah, why didn’t they put the entire series of game of thrones in there? Such a waste

[@zerot3ch234]

The boots in Jake's video look too red

[@flaviorajta]

also why does the guy go into the garage just to watch the view, does he even own a car? I guess I have to buy the boots to find out...

[@tubervstuber3563]

Ok let's be real here, yes josh has the better style on his videos but the main product is the boots and it didn't pop out that very well. he did good for a rookie. Unlike jake he gave more focus on the boots cause it is the product.

[@faizalahamed1541]

Even though the cinematography is better, the main reason behind the quality of second video is that, it is well edited.

[@Banana-sb1hi]

No, the shots where a lot better framed and connected well from one to the next and you could see the product.

[@LatriceVentura]

That’s the only reason

[@ThePrototypeproject7]

Yup it’s the edit

[@10HW]

you don't do cinematography, it shows. josh's shots were ALL out of focus, out of frame, out of depth. you don't know what those terms mean.

[@foxynie.5861]

Yall I don't even do cinematography but you can tell that it's not just about the editing , the focus in the first one was so bad , the second look way more clean and professional.

[@RogerOhayashi]

Josh can't talk by himself. I'd like to know his opinion too.

[@LatriceVentura]

Right he barely said anything and they didn’t compliment the things he did really well. How do you not mention the walking over glass shot ?!

[@photoshoptrainingchannelmi438]

Ok👍

[@icariuszoe4898]

everything is scripted

[@lemoncholy3264]

Latrice Marie poor guy was prolly just shy

[@bigsandwich1238]

he said he did really well, but hes only been doing it for 5 weeks so what do you really want him to say? he doesnt have much experience to give any feedback on himself.

[@asoooome4011]

Josh focused on the model but jake focused on the shoes and that's made all the difference!!

[@johndisney]

From the point of the broken glass shot to end of Josh’s video was imo better than anything in Jake’s video. If Josh is that good after 5 weeks, I’m seriously impressed.

[@dylanwright7407]

“it’s not the gear it’s the skill” then later... “it’s the gear that makes the difference”

[@euantan1167]

True. Kinda both. It's skill at first but when you're at a really high skill level then gear is what gives you the edge

[@OfSheikah]

@@euantan1167 yeah that is well said for completing the statement above ya If these pros are given Higher quality cinematography/photography equipments hoo boi, it's like giving them more headroom to work when before, with the decent stuff that they can properly utilize they are already doing swell

[@libertsiagian7685]

@@OfSheikah and with greater cameras comes easier editing too😁

[@tristandeniet]

"Josh gets roasted for ten minutes" lol naw this was a really good video. Good proof of concept.

[@musashikojiro6532]

josh holds that red camera like his life depends on it :D

[@Lenniblackphone]

I mean if you drop a 30K camera your life is over.

[@NoCluYT]

Kinda does😂

[@CoffeeTheDragon]

@@Lenniblackphone it beaks itself, its a RED XD

[@auraaerosol997]

1. Both used manual focus (as the guy said in the video) 2. If you are willing to compare you either make both videos edited by a third person or you show both unedited

[@darrengodssonfielding]

I reckon Josh did super well putting a commmercial together and he definitely showed creative promise, I'm sure after he has put in the hours he'll be making some super amazing films.

[@jippidyjappers]

” The gear dosent matter” 5 minutes in, the gear dose matter.

[@fabulous1802]

If it's not difficult, rate my channel, It's about football

[@IsmailBergitar]

+1

[@GroovinXX]

Josh witnessed this himself... The worlds best roast victim.

[@hamohaharemix13]

Bro, The lightning on the 600$ Canon DSLR WAS FANTASTIC!

[@ryanhamstra49]

“Little dinky SL2” *Me cradling my SL1* “Shhhhhh he didn’t mean it...”

[@kazpaapzak8637]

I think Josh's shots were pretty decent, I just think his editing was a bit lacking. But for five weeks, damn

[@pf4773]

I loved the point of this video: "Stop worrying about your cameras/lenses/etc!!! Instead, get out their, shoot, edit, and THAT growing skill set is what will make beautiful art. The intern's close up shot of the slow mo boot moving past broken glass WAS the best single shot of this competition, so congrats on that! So, really what was the difference? 1. the pro got the idea, that in a commercial the potential customer wants to see the product from many different angles, with the product showcased in a pleasing manner. The pro made sure to highlight the shoe in almost every shot AND created a pleasing color tone to the shoe as well. The pro's error was not in getting enough close ups, stills/very slow movements, so that the customer can clearly see from all the angles the shoes. What's my take away from this last point? KNOW AHEAD OF TIME what the GOAL is of your shoot! What should the focus be for the particular video you are shooting. :).

[@cheechoo_1238]

Or just buy the most expensive camera :)

[@damien7964]

An amazing camera doesn't make you a better photographer it's all in the eye of the beholder. 🛸

[@MrPablosek]

Tbh I liked Josh's colors better. The lack of oversaturated colors really matched the background of an empty warehouse/parking lot/whatever that empty building was meanwhile Jake slapped on saturation and it just looks out of place and artificial. Josh's scenes were also more creative and the music was better, plus he used a minimal amount of text which makss it look modern (if you look at car commercials for example, most have a text at the end, none inbetween)

[@moriahmars1462]

...but the warehouse isn't the focus of the commercial and the text josh had at the end was white text on a bright background, i agree tho about the overly-saturated jake shots

[@MrPablosek]

@@moriahmars1462 The warehouse wasn't the focus, true, but what I was trying to explain is that the colors really matched the background and because of that it didn't look so artificial. Sorry I couldn't explain it better in my original post, I'm bad at explaining stuff.

[@moriahmars1462]

@@MrPablosek yea i get what u mean

[@Westside_69]

@@MrPablosek but it's supposed to look artificial, it's a commercial not a random video of someone walking. Making the boots colors more alive triggers the viewer to look more carefully at the boots (which is the product), so that's actually a really important thing to do if you want a lot of sales. If Josh's commercial had a little bit more of saturation it would be perfect

[@helloworld7818]

@@Westside_69 yeah, the product is the boots so you need to enhance the boot color and appearance.

[@dorkk5431]

They were doing Josh dirty in this vid.

[@game6kawhi82]

That’s not the point. They’re just critiquing him to make him better

[@edezaqueeniebuhay1339]

Pro teachers tell what you need to improve more. which is such a hurtful words. But will help you to overcome it. Not a good teacher who's always giving you a sweet words. " You're good!" Then enough. But you will never grow because you don't know what to change or what to improve more.

[@igorz3551]

@@edezaqueeniebuhay1339 yeah that goes in everything

[@photoshoptrainingchannelmi438]

👍🍁

[@ThePizza28]

Noob : Close up, low angle, high angle, ground level, shallow DOF Pro : Full body mid angle, tracks the shoes, full body mid angle, tracks the shoes. Add 0.5s cut and saturate the shoe tones Guess who won the cinematographic skills contest

[@CromeLF2]

Shoes were oversaturated and that kinda bothered me and made it look a bit cheap. The shots were really good though.

[@unliving_ball_of_gas]

@Laura Brown shut up

[@satisfaction8242]

@@unliving_ball_of_gas u ok bro?

[@BOREDFU]

The best thing I seen from josh is he got a detailed close up shot of the boots. It not only about the shots looking good but you have to sell the product too. Those close ups of the detail on the boot was a very nice touch.