Leaked footage of Jehovah’s Witness Circuit Assembly shows a cult in decline

[@astarajarvis9965]

As someone who at the age of 14 was chosen to give an experience on an assembly, these experiences are highly coached. Brief story: There was a brother who had a part on the assembly and he had searched high and low apparently for a young one who had the experience of being tempted at school but they had resisted temptation. He finally got in contact w my elders and one of my elders recommended me and that I might have a story, since I was such an outstanding example of faith in the congregation. When he initially contacted me I couldn't think of anything, however, after I got off the call my grandma pushed me to think of something. And finally she remembered this brief interaction I had told her about months ago. Essentially this kid at my school who i was friends with had asked me out and I had told him no bc I only date JWs. That was the whole story. However when I was telling this brother about it he kept asking things like, "Did you view this as a test from Satan?" The answer is no. However he clearly wanted me to say yes, so I said yes. "How did you think Jehovah would feel if you had said yes to this young man?" I hadn't thought at all about how Jehovah had felt. I just knew JWs only dated other JWs. However the answer I gave the brother was, "I knew Jehovah would be very disappointed in me if I said yes." "Were there any Bible principles that came to your mind that helped you to know how to respond." No there weren't, however I told the brother the principal about being unevenly yoked. "How did you feel after you did the right thing and rejected your classmates advances" The truth was that I didn't feel any type of way. In fact I didn't think about that incident again until this situation happened and this brother was asking me all these questions. The answer I gave was, "I felt happy knowing that I had made Jehovah's heart rejoice." The whole point was that it made me seem a lot more spiritual than I actually was and that I had put a whole lot more thought into this interaction than I actually had. However, it served it's purpose because it taught me that this is how much I should actually be thinking about my day to day interactions.

[@TechyBen]

This. I don't consider those giving experiences as lying. I just know the WT and elders make exaggerations of their stories! :(

[@greyberet1]

@@TechyBen Yes exaggerations, misleading context, ommisions of pertinent facts, etc. 😂… I’ve experienced it all. Just saying.

[@altworldly]

Pinned because this is SO SIMILAR to my own experience!! Incredibly well said.

[@nadinedavies698]

Oh wow, that is quite a story!… that the elder wanted you to say bad things about people at school!… unbelievable!!!… and they lay a guilt trip on you by saying how do you think Jehovah would feel about this if he knew you were going out with a worldly guy!!!… this organization is insane!

[@manny2032]

@@astarajarvis9965 They encouraged you to lie . Thanks was not good at all.

[@bethany45101]

As a jw kid that grew up and left, thank you for blurring the kids face and voices. I would be so embarrassed if someone had me online spouting this crap I was forced to believe

[@GodsChannel-gj5rc]

God i wish that applied to you too, blur that face of yours.

[@jaredt.murphy8257]

The longer I'm out, the weirder it looks. Cudos to you for hiding identities of "real JW" minors. You're doing a better job protecting them then the org.

[@VicDeLacross]

It really is... its so hard to watch.

[@slimfadey2973]

They are encouraging witnesses to stand up for the religion, kinda like Geoffrey Jackson did at the Australian Royal Commission. The hypocrisy is astounding

[@GodsChannel-gj5rc]

I made a mistake once when 10th grade gym teacher told a student picking on me to lay off because it was my conviction. Somehow i didnt see personal conviction and thought the word meant i was tied bound convicted to it by others, a religion, or cult-control. And i spoke up and siad NO this is MY belief and MY God. I am sure i perplexed him that i didnt realize i can have my own convictions and i didnt know i could apply that world proudly of myself. Thought it was an insult because everyone does play word games to corner you to make you a fool. Had a Canadian teacher in the USA make me stand out in the Hall for pledge & anthum. I was happy sitting and felt punished by her Canadian pride imposed on me. I felt raped by her (so stupid of her for the last 20 seconds). Teachers should not teach in their 20s.

[@NewSkiwi]

That was my first thought too. Funny thing.

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

*"kinda like Geoffrey Jackson did at the Australian Royal Commission"* If Jackson is the role model, then WT is encouraging JWs to lie, evade and deflect.

[@matrixnavigator6669]

It's interesting how they tell people how to feel with that weird wording technique: "WE don't feel ashamed... do WE? That would be absurd...Isn't that how WE feel??" I remember hearing that type of phrasing as a kid and realizing in the back of my mind that I didn't initially feel that way, but I guess that's how everyone else around me feels, so I should probably go along with that if I don't want to get into trouble. Lookinig at it now, I see that it's a subtle form of psychological manipulation to get the listeners to comply.

[@GodsChannel-gj5rc]

tried to tell Jake its the WE narcissim that even you and Jake use. But Jakes sees things as uncomprehendable unless strictly directed toward and for WT hate. How come i am weird for saying what you now repeated, and yet YOU are not weird. Sorry but i do see a spirit of satan hopping forom person to person. How does that save your life in a greatest disaster of planet!

[@heidijay5902]

My initial reaction was no I don’t feel that way so I figured no one else did either but were too polite to say so.

[@NewSkiwi]

Dr Steven Hassan describes this use of words in the Bite Model when describing mind control in cults

[@markandrews6054]

Exactly. I just said the same only a little differently.

[@dustystarr2297]

They literally talk to their members like they are children

[@discombobulousable]

True... So condescending... Especially that old creepy guy I forgot his name, the one pulling faces while he's doing it 😂

[@LonjeMarie7]

Exactly

[@tammyg8031]

Because they are, unfortunately. That's why it's called: The KINGDUMB HALL

[@LoXena]

​@@discombobulousableStephen Lett

[@greyberet1]

@@discombobulousable You are probably referring to Stephen Lett 😂, the wt chief mime…

[@lavablue-rm3tt]

You’re so good at breaking down how heavy it is to have every thought, feeling, and interaction be portrayed as a cosmic battle, and how it warps and hampers development. Feelings I had for many years before I could articulate it

[@polletpower]

I feel like it makes witnesses sort of slightly bipolar. I remember I got so emotional about Jehovah that I got dressed and just started randomly knocking on strangers doors by myself. I was shaking so much because I was frightened but I know Jehovah was carrying me on his wings…😂😂😂 I remember yelling at my best friend on the phone that I wish Jehovah would send me some type of sign and I got into a car accident really bad and that is when I left the religion. I finally took back my power!

[@phoenixrising7397]

Yes this 100%. I hope to write a book one day about how their manipulating words and propaganda, brainwashing etc does so much emotional and real psychological damage. It’s one of the most insidiously evil cults out there. Thank you for your activism.

[@NewSkiwi]

Yes and as a parent we were brainwashed that we are waging a war against Satan for the hearts of our children. In other words. If our kids leave the Borg, we as parents have utterly failed. That's the truth!

[@RebelRosey]

Winder must have missed Geoffrey Jackson saying the ARE NOT THE ONLY CHANNEL Jeh is using!

[@RebelRosey]

Oh yeah. Let’s set the example to be poor & ignorant!!!!!! Getting triggered by these hypocrites!

[@kittykatrock101]

This is why I am so hesitant to teach my son anything about religion until he gets older. I don’t want him to be brainwashed by any kind of religious ideology that could cause him to just shut any other opinion or view down. Watching this now that I’m fully out of the JW religion really makes me realize just how brainwashed and confused I really was as a child. It’s fear mongering.

[@Denariusjay]

Religion is a mental illness

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

There's nothing wrong with teaching your children about God and Jesus. I taught my children that they are loving, not punishing. In a mainstream church, you can come and go as you please. Not so in cults. In mainstream churches, they teach you are saved by grace, not works. Not so in cults.

[@kittykatrock101]

@ no there is nothing wrong with teaching them about God. But religion is not God. He know about the Christian God due to his father. Religion is numerous faiths though. Not just Christianity. I will not overwhelm his still developing brain with having to do things in a certain way according to a specific set of religious rules and traditions. He’s not old enough to make his own decision on what he wants to believe in. We are all allowed to teach our children as we see fit.

[@manny2032]

@@kittykatrock101 I think it’s ok to expose kids to religious atmosphere where the atmosphere has no exclusivity. It’s ok to expose kids to all kinds of religions and let them make them be comfortable dealing with everyone.

[@kittykatrock101]

@@manny2032 I don’t think there is anything wrong with it either. For my family though I know my son wouldn’t understand the concepts since I have already introduced some things to him but he get frustrated and can’t understand why things are done certain ways. I will still wait til he gets older so he can understand. He’s only 5. Right now he should be worried about how to be kind and playing with others, not about which deity to worship. He’s learning to respect all beliefs and ways of living so long as they don’t hurt anyone else.

[@toomyconne768]

Old white men talking about the end of the world for 200 years lol 😂😂😂

[@dianacryer]

For real. 🤣

[@skepticsandscoundrels]

28:27 - Ah yes, I remember doing gayssignments back when I took Gay 101.

[@astarajarvis9965]

@skepticsandscoundrels The only scenario thatvI can think of where this might have happened was if the JW was in a debate class and they had to argue for or against a topic. And maybe the teacher assigned them to argue for gay rights. Which makes this even more ridiculous because you're saying that even as a thought experiment you can't pretend to argue for the otherside of a topic you disagree with? Crazy

[@tay9364]

FUCCCCK YEAH. I’ve been rewatching all the streams and couldn’t wait for the next one! Happy holidays to you, Christina, and Peaches!

[@peachykeen692165]

I remember when the school brochure was out in the 80s and they expected us as 2nd and 3rd graders, elementary school kids to place one with our teachers at the first day on school and explain how we will not be saluting the flag, participating in birthday and holiday parties. THE PRESSURE. And if you didn’t do it, parents would demand answers. I was ALWAYS At all times embarrassed of this religion.

[@tmalone2530]

I have never seen a comment on KZbin I resonated with more than this one. My mother was insistent that I put that brochure in my knapsack on the first day of school since elementary school. It was an absolute nightmare. The first couple of days of school I used to tell her that I forgot, but by day five or six, she would become livid and she would make sure that the teacher knew. She would call the school and lay down All the rules and regulations of the religion. It was obnoxious and embarrassing for her to explain that I would have to sit outside the classroom during any sort of party, etc.. I’m so glad to be gone from that and if I ever have children of my own, I would never put through children of my torture. What kid under the age of 10 or any kid for that matter wants to deal with such bullshit?

[@peachykeen692165]

@ it sucks because the children never chose that but are expected to be fully immersed in it and love it.

[@markandrews6054]

Yep I remember it well too here in the UK. You're spot on.

[@FurioSpinone]

Yes, an entire choldhod of embarrassment being raised and indoctrinated around these clowns 🤡

[@ThatGirl0930]

How many families today don’t even talk, text, etc. to each other because of the WATCHTOWER JEHOVAHS WITNESSES RELIGION!?!? SHUNNUNG!

[@lutterworthwants7173]

They care about shunning people . If ever stop shunning people they all leave lf eyes be open.. my daughter shuns me too like many other

[@ThatGirl0930]

@ watchtower is a family wrecking, family destroying satanic machine.

[@Dallas-o6k]

WITCHTOWER

[@Dallas-o6k]

SATAN'S WITNESSES

[@Dallas-o6k]

SATAN'S NITWITS

[@RamonBenitez-c1x]

35:10 A good teacher would never impose their beliefs on a student or question the student's own beliefs. As a teacher, I would have simply acknowledged the student's request for another assignment by saying, 'OK,' without asking for justification. I firmly believe that, as a gay man, my presence in their lives can be a positive influence-one that challenges the stereotypes and misconceptions often portrayed about people like me.

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

It's good to have an impartial outlook. I just don't think anyone's beliefs should get militant unless it's threatening people's lives and safety. Which JWs do when disfellowshipping children and throwing them out on the streets without any backup plans for them. It's equivalent to murder. The FLDS does the same thing to their teenage boys because all the old farts see them as competition for their teenage girls. It's disgusting!

[@KairiMorin]

@@RamonBenitez-c1x This is why I couldn't be a teacher, I'd refuse to give another assignment unless the child explains why they need one. I'm religious and I don't believe that a religion should prevent you from learning anything.

[@tonyblock84]

The governing body is only capable of making straw man arguments. Their writing is juvenile.

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

So are their talks. They speak in such monotones they sound like morbid funeral directors. You'd think with their "urgent" doctrine, their talks would reflect that. JW meetings are a REAL DRAG.

[@JaeRae411]

The words watchtower, field service, Awake magazines don’t appear in the Bible either, but here we are.

[@thomash.schwed3662]

Actually, the term “watchtower” does appear in the Bible. However, it refers either to the “witness heap” (whence comes the name Gilead), the stone pile marking the agreement between Jacob and Laban in Genesis or to the structures atop which guards and watchmen would be stationed to serve as lookouts. (Genesis 31:22-55) It is never used to describe either a periodical or an organization. And, “Awake!” magazine ostensibly gets its title from the words attributed to Paul: “It is high time for you to awake.” (Romans 13:11) (Or, according to the “New World Translation”: “It is already the hour for you to awake.”) Indeed, from August 8, 1946, through December 22, 1977, that was the theme text which appeared on page 3 of each issue directly under the masthead. But, again, the language is referring, not to a periodical, but to the state of alertness required of professing followers of Christ.

[@carmelovella9728]

Your mouth you see, Hippo

[@Pomo-Sapien]

William Mallyfally is so proud of that anecdote about the brother in Brooklyn telling the gay man, "It's because God loves you that He tells you your lifestyle isn't good for you." What a big brain take 🤯 I'm a member of the LGBTQ+ community, I survived the first 30 years of my life in the cult, and I've never considered that God knows me better than I know myself, and that I should just believe the JWs and ignore my own intuition because my heart is treacherous 😂 What a fresh way of looking at the situation! It’s rhetoric like this that kept me depressed and loathing myself for years. Thanks for another great video Jake!

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

You shouldn't have to loathe yourself. My niece is gay and her partner used to cut herself. They sort of stabilized each other and have made peace with who they are. My niece is a commercial pilot now.

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

I think the so called "loving" JWs handled your situation wrong. God is love. The JW's love is conditional, whereas God's love is unconditional. Cults really mess people up.

[@Pomo-Sapien]

I’m so glad to hear your niece and her partner have each other and are doing better now ❤ I think it’s important to let folks know that what I experienced isn’t unique; it wasn’t a mishandling of just one case - this is how the JWs treat all queer people. It’s a systemic issue, and it leads to self-harm, and it’s not ok. I’m doing much better now, though, with therapy and a wonderful partner and chosen family ❤ thanks for your kind words!

[@bunchlead]

Well, to be fair, no where in scripture is homosexuality defended or condoned. In fact the bible is unequivocal that homosexuality is wrong. If you follow the bible, you have to follow its rules not that what you feel. PS, I’m not a JW.

[@Pomo-Sapien]

@@bunchlead I no longer follow the Bible or believe in the god of the Bible. I sure do miss my believing JW family who shun me though ❤

[@VickiIson-cv2ky]

The parent should accompany the child and fix the issue. Nooooo….. they force the child to stand up to an authority figure. The child is terrified, I was one of those children. My 8th grade teacher hated JWs. She paddled me many times for any reason she thought of. I was always so embarrassed and my self esteem was in the trash. I don’t know if I have ever got it all back. I am 67 years old now. I only know that I did not believe in the religion anymore. I married at 16 to a worldly soldier. It was a relief but I still have emotional problems that I fight everyday. It is child abuse.

[@alomaalber6514]

know that others your age can relate to your paragraph, Live NOW, glad your daughter has a good marriage. ENJOY each day and do YOU for YOU.

[@justincrayton1027]

I called BS on all the made-up scenarios from that stage...... Never once have I ever been approached in school and been pressured by teacher or student to either support gay people or rally on their behalf...... Those things were there and were available should somebody wanted to..... But not one person ever approach me about it.... Sounds like those old geezers are out of touch with reality around them. They would do well to interview regular people who aren't witnesses before they do this kind of thing to get a feel for what is really out there

[@yawoada]

even with the voice filter, that kid giving his experience abt supporting gay people sounds almost exactly like i did when i was a preteen / early teenage boy. looking back on this now (mid 20s, trans, lesbian) really hurts in a way that i wasnt expecting. i feel so bad that kids like him are being pushed to believe and proclaim all this from such a young age

[@Daurio4747]

Malenfant dedicated a new hall in our curcuit. He said " the Kingdom hall is the only building in the city that represents true worship". Eight years later, the hall was sold to another Christian religion.

[@Mercipher21]

At the assemblies: "Make a firm stand for your faith." Geoffrey Jackson at the ARC: "Policies of the organization are not my field." ..."It would be presumptuous to think that we are the only ones that God is using."

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

WT: If you rank and file JWs join the YMCA, you'll be disfellowshipped. Also WT: we joined the U.N. and OSCE, but it's perfectly acceptable. Nothing to see here.

[@jrivers0005]

My uncle and grandfather won't speak to me because they're JW. They've never shown an interest in my kids either. Family means nothing to the JW cult. It's sad. They're all I have left and I don't really have them.

[@susietigger2280]

I used to love the dramas at the assemblies. I vividly remember the biblical drama about Jezabel. A larger sister was shoved out of a window. 😂 when I describe my life growing up as a JW it seems like a fever dream.

[@altworldly]

Lmao yes! Me and my sister and cousins would put on our own “dramas” as kids and we did the Jezebel one after seeing the one at the convention. Good times?

[@MRS584]

The dramas were the best!

[@thomash.schwed3662]

I remember the chariot scene from the same drama, where Jehu meets Jonadab on the road to Samaria. Ironically, I also remember the opening, modern-day scene in which mention was made of the “Watchtower” series on Babylon the Great and how the sister receiving the shepherding call from the circuit servant and the field overseer expressed frustration over how her fleshly sister kept rejecting those issues. A couple of interesting side points regarding that drama: Part of it was actually taken from another drama which had been presented in the mid-seventies. (That particular drama was mainly focused on Elijah and Elisha.) In fact, for the two audio recordings from the Society, the same cast was used for the major characters, such as Jehu and Jezebel. What’s more, the Society shows part of the recording session for the 1990 version of the drama (the scene between Jehu and Jezebel, just before she is to be dropped) in the “Organization” film.

[@cupcakes1990]

A fever dream is the perfect way to describe the first 30 years of my life lol. I say that all the time!

[@tea_time_t]

35:00 I don't think that most public school teachers would even go that far. They might say "Okay, I need to get a written form from your parents about it being against your religious beliefs for our records," but most teachers aren't going to argue like that about religious beliefs. That would bring hell down on them for promoting a specific religion.

[@clarissascidmore210]

I'm a 5th grade teacher, so here's what I imagine: Student has to research a supreme court case or something that has to do with gay marriage. The cases are randomly assigned. The research products were going to be displayed outside the Social Studies classroom. The kid says "I can't do this one because of my religion,"and the teacher lets him pick a different case to research. The end.

[@JehovahsMostSecretWitness]

What I notice from the intro is that Bro Malenfont likes to say "How many people today (insert negative thing here)?" He doesn't give us any numbers to chew on, he just makes up imaginary scenarios that make it seem like the world is worse than the JWs

[@shironamii]

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮 is all I can feel Also 'we aren't a giant corporation' EXCUSE ME WAHT

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

🤣😂

[@alphaspearl9728]

we're not a giant corporation, we just have a governing body, we are called an organization, we have meetings...

[@FantasyVisuals]

@@alphaspearl9728 and we Watchtower have a financial value of over 60 Billion.

[@cupcakes1990]

"We're not a giant corporation. By the way we have billions of dollars in property/assets. Oh and please meet our new GB member, the real estate agent!"

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

@@cupcakes1990 🤣😂

[@PastPresentFutureProduction]

LOL “we should do research on being bold” should have played the clip from the courtroom “it would be presumptuous to assume that we’re the only organization”

[@NewSkiwi]

Exactly. Such a coward!

[@schueylerblack1852]

My ‘acts of faith’ as an unbaptized JW were kinda cool. In choir, they had Christmas concerts which I opted out of. Instead I was allowed to write and produce and perform my own song, which I would then have to show to the class. the first year the teacher let me do this, I got a standing ovation from my class. Considering I wrote the song about depression and isolation , I still got in trouble at home, simply bc the optics would be I wasn’t part of a ‘happy’ people (I wasn’t). Or the time I accidentally won a study body election without knowing what it actually meant, only that it sounded fun. Or when I created a thriving alternative to the school newspaper just so I could get my fictional stuff published, only to be told that was still a part of ‘worldly politics’. I wasn’t really coached to do any of this, so I feel for the kids in these interviews (and the comments) who lacked if not all autonomy through their formative years - only knowing what they were *not* supposed to do, and just waited for someone to tell them what they *should* do.

[@laceyjimenez7302]

Ugh so triggering to feel like I’m stuck back at these all day torture sessions

[@lavernethomasbey6822]

They all look dead in their eyes.

[@edwardjjanzen23]

'we love people', or so they claim. and yet, when do you ever find them in poor areas of town? when do you find them in dark areas of a city? when do you see them speaking to the homeless, the drug impaired, or tent people? you don't. in my life, living in 22 different cities, i have never seen them in such areas, though i have lived in many. you will find soup kitchens, churches supplying shelter and meals, but, you will never find them. i guess their God has no love for such people. a few years ago, the governing body asked the congregations to welcome into their homes refugees. did they? even of their own faith? i have visited many of their congregations in many cities, and i have yet to see this so. this question of love, for them, is quite hypocritical. it seems to center around the refusal of military service, and little else. their ministry is mostly rural or suburban. so, how is it they can call themselves God's people, when their ministry is such as this?

[@concamon1364]

The leaders are divorced from reality I WISH Americans were collectively this active in educating themselves and acting in their best political and humanitarian interests. Most people in real life are really not invested in politics and nobody cares enough about you to pressure you into doing anything. That type of urgency only exists online in certain echo chambers tbh The clip with the little girl was gut wrenching in every way.

[@Mary-t2p6p]

The good news of Jehovahs Witnesses does not equal the good news of the kingdom of God talked about in the Bible. From this extends all disconnects.

[@charrua59]

Jesus said to follow his steps closely. Nothing about living in a convent 😊

[@sjoerdglaser2794]

What I find interesting is this. We're talking about an American branch (or circuit or whatever), led by Americans, being directed by an American governing body that also consists of Americans. And it still out of touch with AMERICAN life!! The JWs are biggest in Africa, imagine how out of touch they are with non western JWs. How are those people seeing these talks?

[@Chronicroc]

Oh yeah!! At the assembly I went to, there was a woman that gave her experience at work (I think in place of the boy talking about the gay assignment). It was really crazy because the "challenge" she was facing was her coworkers nicknaming her "cult girl". I was so surprised that they allowed the word cult to even be said, honestly. The resolution of the whole situation was basically just that one of her coworkers didn't call her cult girl and ended up studying. Joy!

[@thomash.schwed3662]

Then again, I honestly never thought I’d see a demonstration in which the script called for one of the participants to openly question the Governing Body. Yet, we saw it here!

[@Chronicroc]

@@thomash.schwed3662I was genuinely so surprised when that part came up at the assembly I attended as well. It’s such an odd move to acknowledge a problem and then do nothing with it lol.

[@NewSkiwi]

H Malefont says "we" dont force people into our mold - what a lie! Becausec2 seconds prior he said that some young ones dont know know what sex they are, but never mind, we'll help them get the picture, "OUR PICTURE".... Isnt that forcing these young ones into "OUR" mold?????

[@KairiMorin]

Thank you for choosing to alter the voices of children and blurring them. Children are typically pressured to speak (and I don't mean generally in religion this happens). Thank you for doing your best to keep their identities from being spread. The Internet is not great at not doxxing people.

[@FantasyVisuals]

0:56 " they view us as apostates because we don't believe in the trinity " First century Christian believed the Trinity. So that makes JWs .....

[@boringtonianInBrazil]

I thought first century christians were basically JWs in fake beards....

[@adamantiumbullet9215]

With Watchtower, every accusation is a confession.

[@heidijay5902]

Even when I was PIMI, I always wondered what level of crazy thought that everyone but JW’s dying at Armageddon was good news… Never ever thought the JW message was “good news”, I had way too many questions, guess that’s why I woke up.🤷🏼‍♀️ Now I struggle to get my head around why it took me so long to leave.

[@LonjeMarie7]

That guy, being and fake and phony in the gray suit was absolutely creepy

[@johnrob6132]

This bloke Mallefant clearly loves the sound of his own voice. How can anyone use so many words to say nothing. I remember the circuit assemblies from my past in this organisation. Everything on the programme was carefully rehearsed and scripted, even the chairman`s words of welcome. About 30% of the audience slept through most of the programme. The most active part of the assembly was backstage in the audit room where the money was counted and they always finished the programme with an appeal for money as there was always a shortfall!

[@barorepor3079]

One of my father's coworkers was a JW and he tried hard to get us into their "club". I am glad my skeptical and rational father always politely declined the invitations. These guys really scare the crap out of me....

[@kerrydwyer1879]

I just laugh now,quote a scripture to show they are wrong.I am female. I wait for a reply and carts pack up and go...Elders walked away( so disrepectful).And etc's. And I'm on a mobility scooter now..They are still rude,as usual...

[@nairb906]

I wonder why William malignant is not a member of the governing body.

[@thomash.schwed3662]

As I as I’m aware, Malenfant has always claimed to be of the earthly class. The one non-negotiable requirement for appointment as a member of the Governing Body is that the individual must claim to have the heavenly calling. But, he’s been prominent in other ways, including serving as vice president of the Society 2014-17. And, if memory serves me correctly, he’s also been a “helper” to the Governing Body since that arrangement started in 1992.

[@NewSkiwi]

He is "clearly" 🥱 reaching out! ,😁

[@nairb906]

@@thomash.schwed3662 He better start claiming he's anointed before a bunch of other 50 year olds step in.

[@mrssomuchmore7193]

You do such a good job breaking down the talks! I just can't stomach watching jw videos anymore. The arrogance, talking down to the audience, thought-control, the speculation...using words like "possibly, might have, perhaps, maybe, would have, could". I remember when everything started to hit me, I was sitting in the Hall on a Sunday. We had a visiting speaker and he was making super broad statements about how bad people in the world are. And I thought about all the amazing, loving worldly people I knew. I was working in an assisted living facility at the time. My co-workers were amazing with the tenants, and the families were too. They went above and beyond for their kids, were there for their friends and family and took care of their parents and older friends, no matter their beliefs. I walked out of that meeting and the only other time I went to the Hall was a couple months later for the Memorial. After that i was doing REAL research and never went back.

[@skoomaphd7982]

Why do JWs love to portray “worldly” people like used car salesmen 😆

[@sombrehero3738]

It makes me laugh how much they bring a Bible verse into absolutely every aspect of their lives. They will no longer need a lawyer or a doctor after Armageddon. I have a question, they won't have time to learn how to be a carpenter for 1000 years? x)

[@SisterOfTheFireflies181]

🤣😂Great comment!

[@sprink88]

Mal in French means sick, I’ll or bad… Enfant means child, so William Malenfant means literally a sick child. How true…

[@markweatherill]

Great stuff, and the JW version of the Holocaust is certainly worthy of exposure.

[@FantasyVisuals]

All versions of the Hologram deserve exposure. Official Jish population figures published in 1956 are a VERY interesting read

[@catfatherb2072]

The Europa documentaries cover that thoroughly ​@@FantasyVisuals

[@fuzzyh1ghland3r28]

@@FantasyVisualsI hope that was a typo and not a tounge and cheek way of denying something that actually happened

[@FantasyVisuals]

@fuzzyh1ghland3r28 " actually happened ". Ok 200k of them Germany 1939 , now find the other 9 million. Oh and ZyclonB is barely toxic to humans . Wisdom has chased you for a long time , but you have always been too fast haven't you.

[@murph8411]

@@FantasyVisualsjust because there were only hundreds of thousands of German Jews before the war, whether that was 300k or 500k doesn’t change the fact most of the Jews (and POWs, other civilians etc, that also numbered into the millions) killed were from Eastern Europe, Poland and the Soviet Union in particular. There were millions of Jews in Poland and likewise in the Soviet Union. You really think hydrogen cyanide based gases like zyklon (which was banned after ww1 because of its capability as a weapon) and the zyklon B used in camps was fairly harmless to humans? Why add an irritant to it then to warn humans of its presence?

[@f4rnsworth138]

Someone needs to send Malenfant saying Revelation is about prophecy to be fulfilled after 1914 to Dan McClellan. He'd have fun with that

[@obzenmeshuggah5912]

This video was a lovely Xmas gift. Thanks 👍🏼

[@nairb906]

Probably. Evidently. Perhaps. Maybe. We assume.

[@schueylerblack1852]

Merry Christmas

[@Sheol_Society]

Dude this video is really good. You could easily clip out 20 tiktoks out of every little point. They are really good !!

[@wangdicky]

Great video, I love your sense of humor...keep up the good work.

[@manny2032]

His mental eyes are blind. This organization will soon approach downfall.

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

I can't WAIT to see it implode. I've been praying for it to be so exposed that its members won't be able to deny how misleading and cruel and unforgiving it really is. The JW speakers are SO BORING! 🤣😂🥱

[@ricksanchez9669]

They're worth billions and have 8 million members. They aren't going anywhere anytime soon unfortunately.

[@manny2032]

@@ricksanchez9669 Yes. There are real states where they accumulated through donations, Kingdom Halls that were vacated and sold at a premium price ( maybe tax-free), etc. Only members who are so glued to this religion will stay. Members with open minds, like me, will be gone. Amen....

[@thetruthk5138]

They won't for years although they probably peaked in the eighties and a slow gradual decline. But WT Organizations will just reinvent it's self as long as the funds keep coming in and the die hards still attend.

[@thomash.schwed3662]

@@thetruthk5138I would actually say that the Society peaked in the run-up to 1975. The increases reported during the ‘80’s and ‘90’s reflected a combination of some returning after having left, some who had been studying for a number of years and the children of those who hadn’t left in the late ‘70’s.

[@DeclineofJehovah]

Maybe 1 in 100 JW teenagers "look forward to gathering for worship" lol. They might like gather but not for worship. BORING

[@markandrews6054]

It's English but not as most people understand it. The Jehovah's Witness talk constantly in loaded language terms. It's like a language within a language. What it appears to be saying on the surface to the untrained mind is one thing but to someone else very familiar with how their cult mind control works, the words and sentences they choose to use are loaded with an ulterior meaning usually guilt tripping their followers with some form of emotional blackmail to get their followers to carry out instructions which under more normal circumstances they would question the validity of the commands being given.

[@SnowmanTF2]

I could not help but laugh when the doubting guy in drama mentions he cares about his kid and wants them to do well then they have the other guy in drama throw out a scripture how that is biblically supported; like that is not one of the most common things across cultures and time.

[@unite4peace88]

Oh my Goodness man, I haven't laughed this hard in forever. I just found your channel, your sarcasm is absolutely hilarious and above all pointing out the ridiculousness of the dramas is spot on. Sometimes the humor is the perfect way to demonstrate the ridiculousness of this cult of Narcissistic lunatics. Keep up the good work sir. I will be looking forward to more of your vids. 😄😆😂

[@wallyparachnowitsch324]

if Jehovah brings me back ,will he bring me back gay. If not , then it really wouldn't be me, it would be a clone of me.

[@dpeon242]

💯

[@thomash.schwed3662]

Ostensibly, if we were to take the Society’s teaching on the resurrection to its logical conclusion, everyone raised from the dead would be clones of their previous selves, inasmuch as the Society has said that Jehovah would, in effect, recreate each person. In that case, what, really, would be the point?

[@csellejozsef4172]

1:04 “How many families are there today that don’t even talk to each other…?” eeehhmmm does my JW family count that doesn’t talk to me because I’m gay and left their cult 1.5 years ago?? Yeahhh there are a lot…

[@emoth]

Your pose in the thumbnail is making me giggle idk why. It's great

[@bubgerkirg]

it’s like the “ALIENS” pose haha

[@ThatGirl0930]

Interesting that those demonstrations didn’t mention the homosexual activity at Bethel- that’s been going on for years and still continuing to go on.

[@dpeon242]

It wouldn't surprise me if one or more them them GB members are suppressed homosexuals.

[@charrua59]

Plus the horrible sexual abuse of Bethel pillows 😄.

[@Chronicroc]

Need to let everyone in this comment section that’s agreeing with the organization’s stance against the “promotion of homosexuality” in schools know that you have fallen for their propaganda. You are just as out of touch as they are. I was in school a very short time ago, and I speak frequently to people who still are in school, and the situations like the one presented at this assembly DO NOT HAPPEN. Even the “real” example within the program is not “promotion”. One kid can ask another to sign a card or a petition without that being “the gays being forced down our throats”. If you truly believe that schools in America are being overrun with homosexuals, you are trapped in your own world of make believe bc you do not want to acknowledge that something that makes you uncomfortable is not inherently wrong.

[@dinotudisca3821]

When I was active the Circuit Assembly (2 day event) was once per year and a special assembly day (1 day event) was once per year. Have they gone back to 2- two day Circuit Assemblies?

[@altworldly]

It’s just one day, twice a year. I forget the seasons (spring and fall, maybe?) but there’s one assembly day with the circuit overseer as the guest speaker, and another day with a branch rep/bethel speaker. Two day assemblies were brutal

[@Denariusjay]

Damn they got rid of the 2 day assemblies? Damn this religion changing so fast I can't keep up lol

[@thomash.schwed3662]

@@DenariusjayAs recently as the early ‘70’s both circuit assemblies were three days, as they had been since the arrangement began during the ‘40’s. What would become the one-day circuit assembly (or, “special assembly day” with the visiting speaker) actually began as a special program (typically on a weekend afternoon)

[@ZMorice]

When I was a kid 70's-80's, we went to 4 day conventions and 2 day assemblies twice yearly.

[@dinotudisca3821]

@ Same!!

[@KatyCupcakes]

Thanks for the link

[@markprovan4332]

More braindead dribble. I remember a bone head telling me to forget about higher education, thank goodness I followed my heart, and became a teacher.

[@philip4790]

As a born in, I hated assemblies and conventions when they had other children giving experiences as they simply made me feel more guilty than I did already, as I did not measure up to the standards on display, which only when older do I see the standard as impossible and critically a work of fiction. Wish I thought this when a child, it would have stopped the crippling guilt

[@theconqueringram5295]

I love how you edit these videos!

[@Disfellowdipped]

The Malenfant impression (21:05) has me dyingggg

[@fernandoeguia9997]

Great video dude. Those 2 elders talking about their kids education was so cringe

[@SimonTamplar]

Insane stuff

[@kylekataryn3454]

the fun bit is trying to explain about this, and then explain how one got indoctrinated. It really makes one feel stupid.

[@thomash.schwed3662]

@@kylekataryn3454I’ve been saying that I could never run for office myself because I know I would get the question (of how I could have been involved with the Society for thirty-six years. My problem is that I’ve never really been able to put it into words; it’s that embarrassing.

[@brucehurt2521]

John wrote revelation on events happening in front of him. Caesar Domitian was nicknamed the "Beast"

[@schueylerblack1852]

20:51 😂the music into the voice

[@LePédantSémantique]

Here’s something kinda laughable: During our bethel tenure, Bill Malenfant was a less visible member of the WTS crew. Now that he’s one of the remaining group of peers, he’s risen to an online representative of the organization by outliving the others. Lesson learned: Don’t die yet! 🤷‍♂️ IJS

[@charrua59]

Are this people alive at all? Never seen eyes so dead. They lack any life.

[@dianneosborne8309]

Ancient Rome did have names and numbers, so the speaker is wrong

[@dianneosborne8309]

That is their roads, streets etc

[@LOH__]

39:51 yes! I had the same experience with my assembly interview as a teen. I remember being so uncomfortable changing an actual story to what they wanted. The speaker even asked if I was ok saying it different after seeing my obvious discomfort… and I was a good little witness and gave the version they wanted.

[@exjwcybergirl]

Excellent, well put together. Well done for sitting through their crap

[@Candide1952]

Amen to everything you said. It all reflects my experiences.

[@MaryWallace-wv2bn]

As he encourages using a cell phone so that he looks hip! 😵‍💫😀

[@daisydoo1177]

One thing that was really weird for me to observe is how members always say they have their “go bags” ready. I would wonder WHERE they think they are going with these bags when the tribulation hits. The organization has stated that there is no geographical location to go to like there was back on 66ad when the Roman army invaded and the Christians had to flee to the mountains of Pella. So, why are these members thinking they are going to flee somewhere? This made no sense to me. No critical thinking skills. Just magical thinking. Waiting for those instructions to blindly obey. And if the tribulation came, most likely the government would impose martial law and nobody would be fleeing to a central location or delivering a “judgment message”. But the organization just keeps telling people to obey the instructions that they will give to save their life. What sort of instructions would you give during a grid down scenario where the government orders you stay in place? Where are the people going to be “instructed” to go? I don’t know. This makes no logical sense to me. Hearing someone say to just obey no matter what does not sit well with me. That is a red flag for me. Never sat well.

[@montesterling5904]

When I was JW, I walked around in shame

[@ratta2006]

Born in, I left in 1991. Thank goodness!...This religious organisation is loopy!

[@Markyboyml]

This guy at the start is the JW Donald Trump. The gall and the temerity to be saying what he’s saying, with a straight face and obviously totally believing the GB rhetoric he’s been asked to spout. Even when it’s so blatantly bullshit! They never cease to amaze you do they?

[@altworldly]

He has a lot of Trumpy mannerisms when talking too, imo

[@Markyboyml]

The shrugs, the hand gestures, the way he nods his head from side to sides as he’s talking, it’s uncanny! Not to mention the condescension and the ‘it’s us against the world’ narrative he’s constantly indoctrinating anyone with who’s actually awake and listening (which isn’t many probably, I used to zone out about twenty minutes in and start day dreaming about my football team Chelsea or what I’d have for lunch once the morning session was done).

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

At least Donald Trump had a scowl on his face and his speeches reflected the issues he cared about & he was enthusiastic. GB people and anyone else who gives talks speak in monotones like funeral directors and make meetings so boring you just want to run out of there. 🤣😂

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

​@@altworldlyOn the contrary: He's boring everyone to tears. Where's the urgency? 😂🤣

[@ChristineRossi-rc7xl]

​@@Markyboyml🤣😂

[@notyomonky]

Thanks for another year of good content. Merry Christmas! At about 32:35 you make a great point- this personalizing of archetypal stories. It’s not enough to learn a lesson from David and Goliath like from an Aesop fable. You are expected to become David, and any opposer on up to Satan himself is Goliath. Even minor failings have cosmic significance- you’re not just disappointing yourself or your parents, you’re disappointing God and making Satan happy. This was part of the mentality that led to my father taking his own life. He was mentally ill, but in my conversations with him in his final days he had internalized this cosmic struggle, saw himself in a tug of war between God and Satan. It was a very real factor in his death. Parents should think twice about teaching these stories to their kids.

[@addieadair]

this is my first time watching your videos! ive been POMO for 10 years. you are so entertaining to listen to!! pointing out how the governing body has no idea what goes on in workplaces or in school is so real. it's sooooo obvious they have no idea what "the world" is like. the "picked among the class to support gay people" is so crazy 🤣

[@Theoverthinker81]

So the JW would happily accept others religious views being preched at them even if they dont want it? Hypocrisy is not condoned in the bible, and as they follow 'the truth' they'd be ok with it right?

[@thomash.schwed3662]

Is it any wonder that the brass at the Society’s headquarters are rank hypocrites?

[@larchwood20]

Malenfant didn’t just say that the prophecies of Revelation happen after 1914. He says “about 1914” which is interesting! Great video. Great hair. Merry Christmas!

[@altworldly]

Thank you friend!! And good catch, it really highlights how absurd the whole theology is

[@boringtonianInBrazil]

The branch havent been in a workplace or school for decades. Yes, they're out of touch, they're out of time.

[@lucasterable]

Thank you for the music credits

[@mayahdoss7050]

47:24 The apostate line is just the latest method for continuing JW's victim complex. The covert narcissism inherent in religion in general but specifically this one is something I'm still deconstructing 20 years after leaving. Thank for your service Brother AltWorldly

[@RetiredFFMedicBubbles]

I love! how you strip the layers and are able to break it all down to blunt samples (notice I said Samples of their words-not examples). As a former-the child indoctrination can only fully be seen/felt/known by fellow former children survivors.

[@milohilltop3691]

Apostate is such a cool title. I hope I earn it one day.

[@ThinkTankEntertainment]

The REAL definition of apostate is anyone who leaves their former religion or political party. It’s not as serious as JWs make it out to be.

[@angelawhitfield7498]

Grueling hours for children and adults to sit for days at these conventions. My kids would feel so very tired of sitting. Many would get tired of sitting and start to cry and they were taken to the bathroom for a beating. Yet, I was ingrained we had to do this to survive Armageddon with our families. Now looking back, I wish I had Not been so indoctrinated to this grueling life for me and my children.

[@nairb906]

The Holy Spirit is so exact when it comes to picking the 144,000. It's so exact when penning the Bible. So why is the faithful slave not exact in specifying doctrine to the one true religion? Is it sleeping when it comes to explaining the Bible and gods purpose in the most important time in human history? Last of the last days? It's all bullshit.

[@austinhowley3907]

Good work as always jakeroni

[@1697djh]

Did you hear about the JW Advent calendar? "The doors didn't open!"

[@theoriginalwaterbaby]

Hahaha and the final door (to heaven) is blocked by false leaders!! 😂😂😂

[@boringtonianInBrazil]

😅😅 nice

[@cupcakes1990]

This was such a good video. I had never really thought about the differences between circuit assemblies and regional conventions. I was just thrilled it was one day vs three lmao. But you're so right. It IS creepier! Also, when I did WT comments for an assembly, it was insane to me how controlling they were about wording when we did rehearsals. (Not to mention the more than usual high standards of what to wear). So I can only imagine these poor interviewees having to be personal and vulnerable yet not even being able to speak from the heart, especially the kids. Ugh. And then you're love bombed and praised for it so of course you don't think about any of that stuff. You're just happy you are considered spiritually strong for a while. It's like you can take a few deep breaths before you're under a microscope again. It's twisted as hell!