Behind the Scenes: What Chick Learned from Coltrane

During a soundcheck in Barcelona, Chick reminisces with the Spanish Heart Band about Coltrane, Wayne Shorter and Ron Carter. The drummer of the Spanish Heart Band, Marcus Gilmore, also recalls a story from his grandfather (Roy Haynes) about how John Coltrane recommended Wayne as a fill-in for himself in one of Roy's bands.
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[@gupta__g]

What a vibe .. Rest in peace, Maestro

[@phillipargall3654]

Amen 🙏

[@Gregorypeckory]

It was glorious having Chick around! 🎶🎵❤️

[@TheSeeking2know]

The genuine love of music and people and sharing the music with them is obvious. I love it when musicians discuss musical experiences and history. It's something that should never be lost.

[@AlexAlguacil]

Those are also scales from Debussy and Ravel (and Bartok)

[@skineyemin4276]

Yeah, but, they ever thought to use those ideas in that capacity. Even Stravinsky was living during the time of Bird and never seem to get the virtuosic connection with bebop, at least from an executional standpoint, Stravinsky's trip was a bit more "other". That was the genius of Trane and Bird before him, that and the foundational blues based aspect of bebop and hard bop. Too bad Art Tatum wasn't a bebop thinker, even though, he was so incredible that it didn't make a difference..., but, just imagine if he did.

[@rileymerino6340]

Skin EyemIn why is it important that Tatum didn’t like bebop? I would argue he was still a revolutionary player and thought about music differently from any of his peers or predecessors, and shaped bebop in the way he influenced Oscar Peterson and countless others who would shape the genre!

[@skineyemin4276]

@@rileymerino6340 I never stated that it was important nor did I state that Tatum "didn't like bebop". It's obvious that Tatum was "revolutionary player". I'm not following your gripe. If you actually read my comment, I typed: "Too bad Art Tatum wasn't a bebop thinker, even though, he was so incredible that it didn't make a difference..., but, just imagine if he did." Tatum wasn't' a bebop thinker because he was 11 years older than Bird, and was from another era. Trying reading instead of skimming then reacting.

[@dijonstreak]

yup. just like i repllied ( commented ) nothing new here

[@tehwinnerz5006]

Why can’t they be BAM scales.

[@garydonnelly100]

The perks of having a gig with a legend...and having the grandson of another legend in the same band.

[@gundamwing7781]

Rhythmatist whose grandson is in his band?

[@Yotamoss]

Whos the grandson?

[@davidrourkemusic]

Marcus Gilmore's grandfather is Roy Haynes

[@tuckerdrums3514]

Marcus Gilmore himself is a modern legend.

[@musicality8425]

I'm going to miss Corea, Wayne and Hancock beyond belief but they'll live on forever in space time, which will always return me to forever till I'm dead, too.

[@thort9ac]

Best 2 mins of my time spent this week!

[@johncoltranesethic18]

Oh yes. The arpeggio/scale thing goes to another level on Interstellar Space. Trane plays a scale on two octaves, in one, carving out the pentatonic or gradually splitting the tone and this gives you different time feel. Like, the two octaves souns like 6/8 the one like 4/4 ecc. Splitting the tone gradually transform parts of the pattern in harmonics or in timbral thrills so a pattern of six notes could become a pattern of two apparent notes with 4 micro variation of timbre. All this subtelties are apparent in his "late" playing. Glad that you published a video on this Mr.Corea.

[@ValirAmaril]

man I wish I could understand what you're saying. I love Coltrane, especially his late phase.

[@jaxonellis2995]

@@ValirAmaril I know right?!? It's like Japanese Algebra.

[@johncoltranesethic18]

Sorry guys, i didn't wanna be exclusive. I'm really happy to talk about this stuff! So here we go. When you play a note on guitar and you mute it you hear another note ringing softly. That's the harmonic! There is a series of them (watch adam neely's beautiful explanations about it) and all togheter they make up our fondamental note, the one that we play on the fretboard. Same thing on the sax but to get there we have to use our face muscles and our palatine veil (the little muscle on the upper part of our mouth). Now this is fine if we play one note but what happen if you play a group of them? Some of them will sound cohesive transposing our group of notes (or pattern) to the interval of the harmonic. Let say that you'r harmonic is a fifth. You play your phrase, make a little move with your jaw and your phrase is now a fifth higher! But some of theme are more misterious. You do not have really a transposition. Some notes are like silenced and produce just a little variation on the tone of the instrument. Some of them produce an interval smaller than a semitone, other ones a multiphonic (two/three notes at the same time). Multiphonics and notes succesfully transposed are the things that you hear the most when you do this operation. Now Trane get that really well. Let's say that i'm playin a six note pattern. Than i split it up to a particolar harmonic (chirurgic work of precision there!) and my pattern sound not fully transposed. Some notes are definetely there but other notes have other roles! The notes that are there we could feel them as strong accent and the other one as little variations on this notes. Let's pretend that we have two actual notes and that the other ones are just variation. If you play very fast (as Trane did a lot of times) you can hear the movement of six but the strong presence of just two notes! And you can do that mantaining the same position, just modifiing your embrochure on the mouthpiece. So it's a pretty economic practice too in terms of movement. I reccomended to you the live in Belgium here on youtube, 1965. If your lucky you can see that in action on saxophone (the camera work is a little bit "enthusiastic", so to say. XD) In interstellar space Trane does that with a couple of different patterns based on the same scale. The album has not apparent beat (even though you can spot Ali claves pretty quickly when he uses them) but the statements of Trane are used by Alì like a point of reference to create metrical time in the torrential flow and viceversa. I can think about a lot of examples but the more evident is surely on Mars (3:40-4:56). Sounds a lot like what Mr.Corea is doing on piano, at least conceptually. I hope to have served a little bit your curiosity and the work of one my greatest inspiration both in life and music! Have a wonderful day!

[@jaxonellis2995]

John Coltrane's Ethic As I said. Japanese algebra. I’m a huge music fan although completely musically illiterate.

[@ValirAmaril]

@@johncoltranesethic18 thank you for your patience but I'm afraid this is over my head. Sounds super interesting though, maybe I'll catch up to your level of Trane science one day.

[@KiraPlaysGuitar]

Wayne Shorter going to John Coltrane's house to practice. Damn, man. What are we doing wrong these days.

[@axeman2638]

everything

[@KiraPlaysGuitar]

@@axeman2638 Yeah... On that note, my house for practice sessions.

[@mediumstudio]

That's like stories from the Bible or Lord of the Rings stuff

[@timcardona9962]

Freddie Hubbard talks about practicing with Trane and Shorter and how they would work out of books for violins, harps, etc. And how at various times one could play something that the other couldnt play and vice versa...what a time that must've been !

[@KiraPlaysGuitar]

@@timcardona9962 Working out stuff for violins or other instruments totally, that's the vibe. But if I had another one or two people on the same shit with me, keeping me on my toes DAILY, it's a totally different game. Sitting here transcribing by yourself with no direct feedback or 'challengers' is just way less motivating.

[@carlitosdelpuerto]

I LOVE YOU FOREVER ARMANDITOOOOOOOOO

[@BruceLeroy2620]

Wow Chick was so knowledgable about his craft, always sparing time to give a little of his wisdom back...tbh I’m finding it really hard to comprehend that he’s gone...he’s lockdown blogs kept me going and have inspired me to buy my own piano...I’ll be practising on it with him never being far from my thoughts 🙏🏼🙏🏼 🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹🎹

[@MiLaDoB]

You are my hero Mr Chick...all respects and love ....greeting from Toronto...a Lebanese born musician

[@KayBenyarko]

R.I. P grand Maestro

[@jeffreykwon3173]

Beautiful and memorable moment with Chick♥

[@danieloduntan1983]

This is so pure - we're so blessed to have these insights. Thank you Chick and everyone in this video, it made my day.

[@ryanz4772]

Thx for posting

[@luisdavidgonzalezcarmona3805]

Ahhhhh, this is absolutely amazing

[@michaelgreen5206]

Love you Chick! Thanks for all the beautiful music you gave us, you'll live forever!!!

[@andym28]

Hey Chick I'd love if you could do a video on Paco de Lucia. Either a performance or chatting about the maestro.

[@braveman1641]

This video made me so happy... RIP great one

[@jojotheoj]

Wow what a phenomenal bunch of humans around that piano, discussing more phenomenal humans. Love. 🎷 💗

[@brianking2365]

HUGE inspiration. Maybe one day I can play even a shred like him, that'd be awesome. RIP Chick

[@pascalsolal]

Music is wonderful. It takes the best out of human beings.

[@flame-sky7148]

I can play like that in my sleep, then I wake up. 🐭

[@Myaccountishacked]

Beautiful.

[@KerwinYoungComposer]

Yeah, so kool!! With Marcus!!! Dope!!!

[@derekkase7884]

The love the fun the vibe when music is vibing

[@NikolaiRyskov]

He is amazing!🙏

[@horstlippitsch]

The living legend!🙏

[@ABEL_ROJAS_AREVALO]

Descansa en paz gran Maestro y gracias por todo

[@fndngnvrlnd]

Keep soaring Chick Corea!!!! 😇😇😇😇😇😇

[@fernandoparedes4109]

Un gran maestro que se nos fue, pero siempre vivirá por ser un gra musico y un ser humano noble.

[@WrvrUgoThrUR]

One day, they will speak of CC with the same kind of legendary posthumous reverence.

[@ericworthamii6945]

My hero

[@bameno6641]

awesome !!! omg. just found jazz 1 week ago 😮😮😮

[@SnazzyPiano]

Amazing. Jerrye Albert

[@sebastianschweigert7117]

Damn Chick plays those arpeggios so smooth

[@patrickholmes7851]

R.I.P. master

[@MrThomas1958]

thx

[@solarwind1985]

A master!!!!!

[@SeanRainey]

Yamahas are my absolute favorite pianos

[@Tubulous123]

Yes!!!! thank you!!! 1Nation4Life

[@patxmcq]

1:57 SING YER SHIT!!! Ya man!!!! Chick knew what was up!!!! RIP Chick the greatest!!!

[@indriadrayton1132]

1:56 a McCoy Tyner note. My heart ached when he died 3 days after my Dad's 90th birthday. Then my dad died 2 months later... He reared me on a diet of jazz. My heart aches still aches....

[@cycleoflife565]

Hang in there Indria . I lost my Mom recently and she introduced me to jazz. The memories will carry us through the tough times.

[@RonMazasco]

Same story here. My father of 92 , who died in march. He was my first influence to become a jazz musician (while my late mother's record collection covered the biggest part of latin america).

[@jond532]

Does anyone know what chords these are??

[@alexpavchinski]

i min and ii min triads, 2nd Inversions over a stationary C-7.

[@andybaldman]

Just randomly talking about learning from Coltrane...

[@fatymasilva2259]

❤❤

[@BrianQuesta]

WOW WHAT A HANG

[@MySynthDungeon]

Cool Cats!! :-)!

[@jakezonis17]

Marcus Gilmore, grandson of Roy Haynes

[@Tylervrooman]

Carlitos is a beast too!!

[@pputnam100]

I was like, who are all these young kids gathered around Chick...? I take it they're his current and last band.. what an experience for those young dudes. They'll be in the same position one day with other young dudes

[@jond532]

What chords is he playing at the end anyone???

[@Hexspa]

Subtitles are wrong at the end

[@charlesrivera9877]

yea this stuff is really exemplified in Interstellar Space and anything from 66-67

[@0SW13]

it is, but if you listen out he was doing it as early as africa/brass (1962)

[@charlesrivera9877]

@@0SW13 100%

[@hazardousjazzgasm129]

@@0SW13 Thanks for the heads up, gonna pay attention to that next time I listen

[@minojazzz]

1:45 whis is the song? Link please😂

[@gundamwing7781]

Is that the drummer Marcus Gilmore?

[@arisumego]

Be careful out there Chick

[@clement904]

damn, this didn’t age well... but he died peace, according to Gary Burton

[@vidsforsquids]

👍🏼👍🏼

[@chrislight1712]

Got it.....

[@intuneorange]

Nicholas Slominsky Thesaurus of Scales

[@2HellWUtube]

Which song is the riff at 1:45 from?

[@zachnguyen1206]

McCoy Tyner

[@zachnguyen1206]

Check out stepping stones by woody Shaw

[@user-bk8ti4ys2r]

What song was he playing at the end

[@ram-4]

It's not a "song", it's the classic McCoy Tyner 4th voicings he (McCoy) used to play when he was with Coltrane. Listen to A Love Supreme and Crescent by the classic Coltrane Quartet.

[@user-bk8ti4ys2r]

RAM4 ahh okay thanks it just sounded so familiar from somewhere

[@user-bk8ti4ys2r]

SIIC I hear a bit of it

[@Bati_]

I think you can hear this theme in McCoy Tyner's Passion Dance from The Real McCoy album...

[@jambajoby32]

Benny golson used to go to coltranes house too ! Maybe chick means Benny?

[@MrNewktrane]

No, he meant Shorter. Also Pharaoh Sanders, Eric Dolphy, King Freddie of Hubbard, etc. The great Mr. Golson comes in much earlier with Trane back as kids playing their horns in Philly. When both were in the great Earl Bostic band they would ask him endless questions about the sax & he provided the answers to them. As for Shorter, I remember watching a great & rare Art Blakley documentary where with Wayne standing right by him retold the story of a group of musicians watching a young Shorter on stage at Birdland. One of the musicians said " Man this guy Shorter- he's playing like scrambled eggs!" Trane then said " But it's the way he's scrambling those eggs"!

[@user-cj3qt5vc6h]

Папа Чик...,!!!)

[@daoistdansah54]

Beautiful ....[sigh]

[@alannoob1926]

Who else saw the comments before he died and now? 😔

[@ulob]

Now sing your .... part :D

[@joaquin8637]

where is Shelly Miscavige corea

[@intuneorange]

Hiding from the truth

[@newmoneymarcus]

Is he talking about Alice Coltrane?

[@hazardousjazzgasm129]

John

[@SecretEyeSpot]

listen to my doves coo by 1:12

[@karu6111]

man, musicians are a whole 'nother species...

[@normalizedaudio2481]

I'm working on that exact thing. (down with Ticketmaster...boycott)

[@carlbowles1808]

Chick credits Coltrane. It's called humility, something sorely missing in this era of excessive pride.

[@johnparadise3134]

Why would anyone give this a thumbs down? Just don’t react at all…

[@Trollbot007]

At the end...all an inside joke guys...don’t you dare try understanding...preaching to myself!!!

[@motoputz3201]

what a loss

[@bandicoot5412]

What a genome fest!

[@hazardousjazzgasm129]

?

[@nicholaschen9545]

Did that guy put his foot on the piano bench? Why not poop under the hood next.

[@dijonstreak]

..all this stems from the Classical seed...nothing new here...come ON !!

[@RockyStonester1]

why are you expecting revolution from a 2 minute video of jazz musicians talking

[@hazardousjazzgasm129]

Except for the Pandiatonicism, walking basslines, non-functional harmony, mode-based improvisation, etc etc.....

[@joeschneider67]

I am sure Jesus Molina and Justin Lee , they both play better then chick Corea

[@itom1994]

The hell u talkin about

[@Bruce.-Wayne]

@@itom1994 ...lol...he's on coke

[@hazardousjazzgasm129]

LMAO