Behind the Scenes with Chief Osceola | FSU's Road to the BCS Championship

[@AltamaLFG]

It'd be extra cool if Chief Osceola was a scholarship that pulled a kid from one of the poor reservations that'd be truly life changing.

[@davidrodgers7224]

Beat idea I've heard

[@davesteller6301]

It actually should be and I always thought it was an actual Seminole tribe student.

[@coastdweller]

Well it wouldnt be a Florida seminole. Those guys are loaded. The tribe owns hard rock and thanks to dividends if you drive through the their reservations the houses look fit for an exclusive gated community and they deserve every penny.

[@obadinatucker955]

Wasn’t Chief Osceola black

[@coastdweller]

@obadinatucker955 no his mother was Creek/Muscogee and his father was actually Scottish.

[@mikepga1]

A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered forever. A gator killed in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt

[@alexiskinsey2120]

I think that their football teams need to fear the Noles spear

[@alexiskinsey2120]

The Noles never cheated when we playing football against other football teams & i say that the Gators ain't good when they play against the Noles & if they play against the Noles we are going to kick the Gators butt & they are going to lose

[@shplashonurmom8199]

Yea and then the Hurricanes wipes em both out lol 🙌🏻

[@Darkdemonoflite]

He wasnt simply killed in battle. He fought white ppl for years. He would put a spear thru all these ppl kn the stands. That's what makes this so damn weird

[@freshproducefloridapodcast192]

Chief Osceola is our hero. We did a full podcast to Honor his legacy. Check it out when u have a moment. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnmqoJ2jfb2ho5I

[@mr.skeptical3071]

Best pre game show ever!!!!

[@Clouden5]

Best tradition in college football

[@frankryan2660]

Racist

[@jamiebrooks2125]

Yea if it were a actual "indigenous native American".

[@gangstakoolaidman3811]

@@jamiebrooks2125cry about it

[@vaughnmeyerjr6502]

Best tradition in college football period it always brings a tear to my eyes and chills go Noles all day everyday

[@YouAintChris]

I love how every rider completely owns the scene of that stadium. Zero intimidation, zero question, the rider and horse truly are in character…. They survey the crowd, the field and everyone there feels the intimidation. That is their field; their land, their time. Almost as if Osceola is saying, “this is my land. Who are you and why are you here”. Much respect for such an amazing display and tribute to the tribe, every single time.

[@Revkor]

and the warchant goign such a banger

[@MrRN3]

All the way from Baltimore but it's all about Chief Osceola and Renegade, straight representing F.L.O.R.I.D.A S.T.A.T.E Florida state, Florida state, Florida state!!! And when you hear that war chant, you better fear the spear. #TRIBEFOREVER

[@jamiebrooks2125]

LMAO😂.. That fake as Indian😭😭🤦🏾

[@IngridScottflutist]

Forever a Seminole. Proud to be a Nole!! #FloridaState #FeartheSpear

[@gatorfam198]

Ingrid Scott fuck the noles go Gators

[@IngridScottflutist]

Gator Fam hahah that's why we are so much better and have pretty much taught the Gators a lesson for like the last 7 years. lol! #GoNoles

[@Biblical_DNA]

​@@IngridScottflutist You never were a Seminole because you never were a runaway. Only those that were actually runaways could ever truly be Seminoles! The Creek would get paid to catch runaways. It was the Creek that burrowed the Spanish word Cimarrón which was referenced towards runaways. Do you know what kind of runaways? Think chattel slavery. Think plantations.

[@Angus_Gibson]

I'm a Volunteer. My sister is a Seminole (at least, by choice of university). Love the story of the Seminole tradition!

[@t.m.9231]

Chills. Every time!

[@cassandramitch8793]

I love Osceola and Renegade!

[@jasminedubois6711]

The best mascots in College Football. They represent the teams unconquered spirit.

[@Biblical_DNA]

You should. You probably carry similiar European admixture. He was a European Creek after all.

[@timhollamby8728]

The greatest symbol of the state of Florida...The symbol of a proud tradition and people The Seminole Nation...OSCEOLA AND RENEGADE OUR WARRIOR SPIRIT!!!...GO NOLES!!!!

[@shplashonurmom8199]

I think the greatest symbol is a thing called THE U

[@deagenosceola9739]

Tribe were not a nation *

[@burky0082]

I know I’m late to this video but by far the most badass entrance in all of sports and awesome that’s it’s not considered offensive. Why doesn’t a tribe member take the role? I’m just curious

[@pahwraith]

Seriously!

[@GIRTHYANDITCURVES]

A change that really needs to happen asap. Not even my tribe but the red face just feels ehhhh 😭

[@erenjaeger1738]

Buddy no. Imagine a native american wanted to do white face for celtic culture XD

[@Idkwhattoput151]

I mean… it’s not like there is anything barring them from doing so

[@nick1512]

Did y’all watch the damn video? The Seminole tribe fully supports FSU. It is not a mockery it is a tribute to the great people of the Florida Seminole tribe. Yes there was bad history with the native Americans but this is not an insult get off your high horse and GO NOLES!

[@alirekc1181]

This is a mockery. He’s white trying to pretend he’s Native American. If they wanted to represent the Seminole tribe then they would of had an actual Native American represent themselves.

[@kingonthemoon7044]

@@alirekc1181 and as soon as a Native American student applies for the 4-year program and 2-year training I’m sure they will.

[@Mark_Cook]

@@alirekc1181 The chief is literally revered and basically being held up in a “god” status. Not only is the portrayal of an actual Seminole chief, but the tribe itself fully condones it. There are only 3000 Seminole members and with it being unpaid and requiring 30hrs a week I doubt they even can find an actual Seminole to do it. You idiots are literally speaking for and directly contradicting the actual tribe. Hilariously it’s borderline racist to do so by assuming you know “better” and directly talking over them.

[@zacharyradford5552]

Proof you don’t know shit about the Seminole tribe.

[@vaughnmeyerjr6502]

​@@alirekc1181hey dumb dumb do more research before posting that person riding Renegade earned that right by being on the Dean's list by being on the top of that list it's a tradition that the Seminole Tribe endorses so get out of here with that crap you don't like it then don't post stupid shit

[@towdjumper5]

Great stuff. Go Noles

[@boogie8128]

Why is red face ok?!

[@joesilver8017]

why are you implying that natives are red

[@rick2sIick]

the seminole tribe directly works with fsu and interviews the people wanting to play osceolo and they have to approve mostly all of it

[@theassassin2514]

He literally said it’s researched and okayed by the tribe so STFU

[@quinnparker749]

I always loved this entrance but I always thought they got a real Native American to do this. I'm not sure what to think no tbh. But if they are ok with it I am too.

[@zacharyradford5552]

Seminole tribe has always been a mixed tribe.

[@chelseysunshine]

UNCONQUERED

[@nobodythatneedsanything]

Lets not get all SJW on here. The Seminole tribe has authorized and condones the mascot of FSU as well as the ceremony. They are showing respect for the tribe and give their name prominence and let it not fade away into the footnotes of history like other Native tribes. Seriously, a bunch of triggered people getting mad at people for try to show respect and honor a battle scarred folk and one of their revered leaders, ridiculous.

[@XENO-bp1fe]

And they get lots and lots of money for doing so

[@alexiskinsey2120]

Go Noles & their FSU Mascot's & that is very awesome

[@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall]

Applaud the Seminole Tribe and Florida State for not caving to the liberal mob by getting rid of this. Arguably THE BEST tradition in all sports!

[@Banthisyoutube-zs6sx]

The tribe had to step in and stop the cancelling of osceola

[@Biblical_DNA]

Osceola wasn't Seminole and neither were the Red Seminoles because they never were runaways. The real runaways were Africans, African mixed with European and Native Americans. Why? The majority of the runaways were running away from chattel slavery from the plantations they were enslaved on.

[@kimpuccio]

Shouldn’t they have someone who’s like, actually native to do it though?

[@dayman7061]

We should cancel this, right?

[@adamwilson2002]

@@dayman7061 no

[@madscout96]

From what I understand, yes, Chief Osceola is played by a member of the Seminole Tribe. FSU has a relationship with the Tribe, and FSU doesn’t do anything regarding the Seminole name or imagery that the Tribe doesn’t agree to.

[@tednorberto3086]

Back in the day Heston would've jumped on it.😂

[@gatorfam198]

they can't get a real Indian to do it

[@tonebone2895]

Gator Fam Gator Fam Right? You'd figure since the whole "ceremony" is supported and approved by them.

[@flyonawall6521]

I guess FSU didn't feel like traveling thousands of miles to Bombay to get one? Even Billy Powell wasn't 100%

[@brandyb2931]

The Chief Osceola's are portrayed by a student at the school who has at least a 3.0 grade average, good behavorial records and excellent riding skills. They train up to 30hrs a week with the horse to perfect the routine. The tribe us supportive and backs them on this and is proud of it. Why should anybody complain?

[@nathandubose2876]

@@dimitriyakushev3076 yet they pay ugga and Bevo and the tiger at LSU bull crap

[@Darkdemonoflite]

@@brandyb2931 good grades so u can portray a man who would have hated you lmao

[@baltazardelacruz2003]

Gooo noles

[@SomeGuyFromOK]

Wait, so it’s a white guy… not even a real Seminole??

[@Biblical_DNA]

Osceola wasn't a Seminole. He was a mixed European and Creek Native American. The majority of his admixture would have been European because both sides carried European admixture while his mother was half and half. That would make Osceola 75% European and 25% Native American of Creek. Not Seminole. The Seminole were simply runaways.

[@zacharyradford5552]

The Seminole tribe is a mixed tribe of whites, Spanish, natives, and black.

[@bertrandqualo8147]

Best pregame ritual by far

[@alexiskinsey2120]

Noles are awesome football team

[@michealgoldberg9518]

I read a post that this guy was part of the tribe. He look it lol

[@Riospfc]

White guy? He don’t even look native 🧐

[@Biblical_DNA]

Osceola was 75% European. So what are you talking about? 🧐 Osceola was only a quarter Native American from his mother side because she was mixed. His father was a "white guy".

[@Gopanthersrule]

Go noles

[@razzle2112]

is the man portraying Osceola a native?

[@Connorstalions23]

He’s a white frat Boy

[@bqeli]

Yes, he´s from Florida... if you see the skin colour is a racist attitude, agree?

[@Biblical_DNA]

Osceola was mixed with majority European. If you want to get accurate put a Puerto Rican student or Mexican on the horse.

[@razzle2112]

@Biblical_DNA his mother was creek and his father was a Scottish man so idk about Mexican

[@Biblical_DNA]

@@razzle2112 "Creek" is simply Native American. No different than Taino in Puerto Rico or Mayan or Aztec in Mexico. They are considered Amerindian. Yes. Mexicans are mainly Native American (Amerindian) and European (mainly Spanish) ancestry, with a smaller proportion of African ancestry

[@2CENTZZZ]

Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. JOHN 14:6

[@That540iMSport]

Here Illinois can’t have chief illiniwek

[@54683NS]

All that [indigenous minstrelsy] is "researched and developed by Mr. William Duram... he researched and did a lot of thought about how the paint was actually going to be applied and it all goes back to roots with the Seminole tribe"! So why don't the Seminoles themselves take over these "honors" and represent themselves?? And before that in the video we learn that the tradition of Oceola and Renegade was started by that other guy's father in 1978?? So is 1978 going back to the roots of the Seminole tribe!? They're "thrilled to be able to continue to do it to this day with the support of the Seminole tribe of Florida..." Notice he doesn't bring up the conflict of interest involved in the "support" they receive: As sportswriter Dave Zirin has explained, "For the wealthy and powerful Florida Seminole tribal leaders, the cultural elevation of the football program is a part of their extremely lucrative gaming operation. Defending the school’s use of the name is about defending its brand. That is why the chairman of the Florida Seminole Tribe of Florida, James Billie, [supports it all]." Of course, they also have to suppress in videos like this the fact that the majority of Seminoles, who live in Oklahoma now (because they were ethically cleansed from their lands in Florida) do not accept even the usage of the name Seminole for any sports team, much less a minstrelsy show pretending to "represent" Seminole culture.

[@pc5487]

Bro everything FSU does have to be approved by the Seminole tribe of Florida. If they want something gone it would be gone faster than you can blink

[@tednorberto3086]

Big Money gets it's way.

[@obadinatucker955]

Wasn’t Chief Osceola black

[@Biblical_DNA]

No. Osceola was majority European. Like 75% of his ancestry because he had European ancestry on both sides of his family. He was like 25% Native American.

[@natureboy7278]

I think it's very disrespectful to have a white man dressed up like Chief Osceola one of the greatest men that ever lived

[@HawaiianStyle808]

The Seminole tribe approved it...

[@natureboy7278]

@@HawaiianStyle808 Anything these days can get approved for the right amount.

[@Mark_Cook]

@@natureboy7278 So the tribe itself which has like 3000 members and has had a close relay with the university for decades has not only approved it, but encourages it. Yet you are here to tell everyone that you speak for the indigenous and this is not ok. Wow.

[@natureboy7278]

@@Mark_Cook people will do anything for money dummy remember that

[@alexiskinsey2120]

FSU is the best football team ever & Go Noles & i would like to see our FSU Mascot's & i think that other football teams need to Fear the Spear

[@XENO-bp1fe]

No Seminoles wanted to be the mascot... jee... I wonder why.

[@obi-wankenobi7521]

The Seminoles approved this and helps make sure the clothes are historically accurate

[@noelle6481]

@@obi-wankenobi7521 of course they would because they're making money off of it.

[@obi-wankenobi7521]

Noelle win for everyone

[@williamcasey8791]

because they are miami fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go canes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@loveone789]

Hold up... so it's blackface

[@troygerren7519]

I thought this was a real Indian

[@Connorstalions23]

He’s a white frat boy

[@Biblical_DNA]

Osceola wasn't a real Indian. He was a real Mestizo. His ancestry was majority European and a quarter Native American of Creek.

[@michaelpeace8310]

He's not a mascot.

[@flyonawall6521]

He's not a chief.

[@samuelhayes8793]

He looks a white man?

[@thataggiekid]

Samuel Hayes I always thought their mascot was a real Indian. 21 years old and I find out it’s a white guy...

[@ronniekassis6089]

Most racist act in soprts