FATAL VOWS | The Edge of Love (S1E9)

High school sweethearts Bob Duke and Liana Davidson marry young and have their first baby soon after. But the shattered dreams of youth will plunge one of them to depths of despair - and the other to the bottom of a cliff.

[@satob7690]

Wow, it's evil to kill anyone, but to push your baby off a cliff!! He has no soul

[@KimF1]

Or a very rotten soul...

[@virginianazario1508]

Satonya B , Absolutely, , I Cant Even Described, Something like that Human Being,

[@nitamay3534]

Evil man

[@geanettepartington691]

Yes, they are referred to as "baby-killers" in prison. If you get to prison, it makes you a #1 target of getting a taste of your own medicine.

[@Kat.Evangeline14]

Evil 😢

[@athensmajnoo3661]

Driving to a deserted dangerous cliff to celebrate a 5 year old's birthday? Hard to digest.

[@dianabondin2552]

Hehe yes good one , it is a very strange way to celebrate a kid 's bday birthday especially for a 5 year old.

[@christinelamphier1728]

What happened to Chuck E Cheese?

[@quickchris10comcast]

I guess they were so desperate for some dad time . . .

[@dianneohara1678]

If that piece of scum didn't want children he should have kept his trousers zipped. It's a classic case of me,me,me. To deliberately and coldly push your wife and child off a cliff is beyond evil. Not satisfied with getting the blood money for that, he decides he needs yet more and is prepared to take other innocents lives. I would never call him a man as that would be an insult to all truly nice men out there.He deserve the worse possible punishment available under the law. May he never have a moments peace, wherever he ends up. My deepest sympathies to the families of the victims in this heartbreaking case Many thank for this brilliant , ( though sad ), upload ~ hugs from Scotland :)

[@o.amoakohene8147]

😅😅😅😅😂😂😂that man love easy money

[@lisawentworth6831]

...he should have not married her...problem solved. To wait until the kid is five? That's cold!

[@jeffcampbell2710]

There's not a bit of evidence he did that. Only assumption. Prosecuting people off assumption is dangerous and extremely unconstitutional. If you agree with that, then you must give up your Constitutional right to a fair trial.

[@catspaw3092]

Once he found out that Liana was not his type of girl he should've broke up with her Bob wanted more out of life & he & Liana should've used protection. And knowing that she's Mormon should tell Bob right there that Liana was into the very conservative life.

[@kotorisama3080]

@@jeffcampbell2710except for the fact that he’s been recorded planning his parents’ murders. If he can have his parents killed for money what makes you think killing a wife and child he doesnt want and are baggage isn’t possible for him?

[@Joolstersims]

"Being a Mormon, you walk a straighter line"... Not what years of watching crime shows has taught me.

[@SonjaElizabethTeal]

😂😂

[@lavidalydia]

J C hahahaha

[@thechucklekouple8592]

😂

[@claire___]

HAHA!!

[@thishappycrafter272]

Hahahahaha

[@yebo-gogo]

I knew the parents would choose denial. It's far easier to go for full-throttle denial, than accept that you have raised two monsters. 6 life sentences - now that's what I call a sentence!

[@raeshelled]

His parents denial of his bad behavior is why he's where he is at now.

[@goodpeopleprosper635]

Absolutely!!

[@ber9313]

Same type of golden boy parenting with Chris Watts and Scott Peterson.

[@raeshelled]

@@ber9313 this is random but Chris Watts went to my high school 😳

[@ber9313]

@@raeshelled Did he seem like an unusual kid?

[@raeshelled]

@@ber9313 no not at all. He seemed nice. He was really quiet.

[@jamesl9371]

Murderers should be in prison for life with no parole. Never let them out

[@samyojita]

James Lade Depends on the situation. One can kill someone in self defense.

[@jamesl9371]

Samyojita Koirala well I don’t think self defence is murder or an accident is not murder

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

@@samyojita That is not a murder, it's a justified killing.

[@pattimaeda6097]

ALL criminals without exception life or “the chair”

[@missollyk]

Women if he says he wants out, grant him that divorce. It's not worth your life

[@pauladouglas9891]

I can't believe the parents wanted to stand by their son and refuse to listen to the tape.

[@ritawashere5787]

I'm not at that part yet, but I was going to see if the parents stood by their son. I hope he was on his own in jail.

[@ritawashere5787]

I was going to say they did have another son and then the video went on to say his brother was involved too. Yikes.

[@rocketta.chique5761]

Cognitive dissonance. He’d probably manipulated them his whole life.

[@Kat.Evangeline14]

Denial 😮

[@kotorisama3080]

It hurts too much sometimes if you believe the truth. Sometimes ignorance is bliss

[@kenyawalls2255]

Why do people think a baby equals your dreams are gone. He could have went to college

[@brittaolson6550]

Kenya Walls Absolutely! I applied to college as soon as I realized I was pregnant. I figured it was time I got my life together. I found a daycare across the street from campus and nursed my son 3 times a day, between classes (he had a feeding problem and needed frequent meals). Then we went home and did it together! It was the best time of my life.

[@nikkidoten3213]

Kenya Walls, well I can't relate to this lady because I had my son later in life when I was 28 years old. However, I started living after having my son. I live my life centered around my son, yes his dad and I separated during my pregnancy, but he is my world! Seeing him grow and tell me his weird jokes and stories is so refreshing and it gives me so much pleasure. My son drives me to be a better person and I am grateful to be his mom.

[@carolw1624]

Occasionally I think I might try dating again and then I watch a few of these shows to remind me about the shit humans out there and I am back to just hanging out with my dogs.

[@calgal5752]

Carol w Me too! We are much better off that way...

[@mistyhi63]

Pets are more affectionate anyway!

[@barbarakurtz7244]

Same

[@bullterriersmom4423]

Lol TRUE!! Get u a dog or a cat 😂😂😂 they are loyal and will love u forever no matter what

[@halloween482]

@@bullterriersmom4423 Yup, too true

[@jamesl9371]

Goes to show sometimes the “bad guy “ Roger is actually good. And “good guy “ Bob is evil, don’t judge people by the appearance

[@mattkaustickomments]

James Lade , I was suspicious why ‘straight’ Bob hung out with dirtbag Roger. The fact that Bob was quietly evil the whole time explains it.

[@enjolidozier1120]

There’s a difference between a stereotype and pure fucking evil 👺👹

[@renatagross5959]

If ever there was a case that qualified for the death penalty this is it.

[@TheWanderingFinnegan]

Premeditated murder by the state is never acceptable.

[@rocksiirose4536]

He needs to live in pain and agony for the rest of his poison life

[@orangesplaylist]

"I'm in a bad marriage. We want a way out. He said he's going to kill me" Some rando lady "Oh, we've all been there" I'm sorry, lets not? Normalize that type of thing. I've never been in a relationship where he said he's going to kill me. I don't know anyone who has, outside of abuse. That's not normal

[@IveGotItTwisted]

Not normal at all! When my husband is being a pain I may joke that I cook his food, watch out, but I've never said, " I'll kill you" or anything serious o.o That's not a joke.

[@nataliemeenakshithegreat7780]

No dear it isn't normal run please

[@RowanWarren78]

"Women aren't devalued in the Mormon faith. They are taught to be mothers and wives". The thing is, if a woman chooses not to be a mother or a wife, they are pressured, criticized, and in essence devalued for not conforming.

[@yettabonez5777]

Yes indeed they do!

[@Kellystella97]

So what you try to debunk in essence was a waste of texts sinds you point is exact that

[@KellyThutwa]

You are right! just like here in Africa

[@annagoodheart0711]

After watching the next murderous story of 'happily ever after' I just feel very comfortable being single

[@geraldbarreno535]

😃😃😃😃😃 wonder if u still single. 😃

[@deannaivetic7935]

Same here

[@PRTTYBRNEYZ]

U got to knock me out and drag me to the cliff cause I'm not going nowhere near a damn cliff,frfr!

[@chrysichrysi7889]

Ikr?!?!😱😱😱

[@smurfylee]

He could of taken off somewhere, changed his name and just become a dead beat dad. He didn't love his parents so he should of disappeared , rather than have that little innocent beautiful boy die, and of course his mother too. So so sad.

[@SonjaElizabethTeal]

Yeah. As pathetic as it woulda been it still would've been better than murdering them!

[@manichairdo6346]

Yes, he could HAVE, or.. he COULD'VE.

[@brittaolson6550]

Smurfy Lee So selfish and evil.

[@susanarsoniadou3588]

Bob was a high sociopath.

[@BinkyTheGoddessDivine]

She's the one who should've packed her bags and disappeared. Would've been alive. Sometimes, in life, you need to know when to cut your losses and move on.

[@veaudor]

Good grief!! You can't make these things up.. Horrid horror story.

[@WindDancer435]

The parents are just fools. Just like that other woman who was shot by her son and then defended him in court.

[@angelicadarlin8150]

The other woman's situation although tragic, was a little more understanding. These parents are just fuckknuckles

[@monty9619]

Narcissistic sociopaths raised narcissistic sociopaths.

[@gabe-po9yi]

Brilliant strategy on the part of the prosecutor to read out quotes Bob made in the convo about killing his parents and then ask him after each one if that was part of the joke. The best thing was when he told Bob, “Now, stop me when I get to the funny part.” Hahaha, PWNED!

[@daviegriffin3539]

🧐 #Brilliant 👏🏾

[@ginapafitis1966]

Yes👍🏻

[@anglofrancaiseyvonne9349]

That line again, "a beautiful, small quiet place to raise a family"

[@tea6306]

Yep!! It's usually the place where the most gruesome/unthinkable crimes take place. I can bet it is a beautiful place, but I'm sure it has little sprinkles of "Where the fuck did this neighborhood come from" scattered throughout the town lol

[@katrinarose72]

Dude. GR is a ghetto. The entire town. I grew up 100 miles north and used to party in RockSprings, right outside of GR limits. Even the lowest of scum wouldn't hang out down there. Anyone from Wyoming will tell you the same.

[@tonyneal4716]

......Where everyone knows each other and people don't bother to lock their front doors......

[@lilithclaws832]

Don't forget to mention, the place is so safe people don't lock their doors😅

[@Metaphysicalmindspace777]

So all those years he resented her and his kid. This scenario plays out in many relationships. They honestly weren’t a match. Sad.

[@nancychurko4261]

Eric would be 30 years today....so sad...may he continue rip.

[@bettypsonis1622]

So sad!!! This own father took his life and future because of this selfish and greedy piece of shit!!!

[@donnaq3711]

poor mother and child, both so beautiful and sweet

[@randomkeir]

You know that if Leann ever suspected he’d hurt her son, she’d have left him in a heartbeat.

[@michellec3135]

We can do without the input of the two therapists that sit there and state the obvious through the entire documentary.

[@savitaram3975]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@moniqueharrison316]

Right!

[@amberjones3381]

Exactly

[@Talby67]

Michelle C well let’s face it, there are some dumb shit people out there in the wold.. 😂😋

[@nthabisengp6229]

Michelle C I agree 😂

[@Bezoo-xg5gb]

What a horrible way for them to die, being pushed off a cliff!⚰️🤷🏾‍♂️⚰️🤷🏾‍♂️And then he tried to have.his parents killed,what a great & productive citizen he turned out to be?!😱🤷🏾‍♂️😱🤷🏾‍♂️

[@luciferalpha3080]

Classic story of the local thug being a better person than the squeaky clean one. Looks can really be deceiving.

[@tea6306]

These ppl are a little slow. They're justifying why he should've just stayed with her & toughed it out instead of ADMITTING they should've gotten a divorce. Husband is flat out telling anyone who listened "This isn't what I want", but everyone's just like "Op well everyone goes through things". Poor young ppl to be surrounded by oblivious adults who think perception is more important than peace of mind smh

[@bobipapy2404]

He did not want paying maintenance what a selfish monster

[@lela8081]

What a monster...rest in peace Erik and Liana:(

[@tmf6687]

He has pushed his wife and his son down the mountain, such a cold heart he has

[@igotbandaids]

I thought it was outlandish to even joke about hurting his child. People often act silly and joke about doing things to their spouse but a 5 yr old child.

[@charmanyhaddock3768]

He should have lost his balance on that edge

[@IveGotItTwisted]

@@igotbandaids Absolutely. I joke with my husband about killing him or threaten, " I cook your food", but it's all in good fun. We're just being silly. My friend and I may joke that she wants to eat her kids some days but again, harmless and silly. We would never joke about actually hurting them :/

[@LearnPatente]

@@IveGotItTwisted joking to want to eat your kids is scary, out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks, what exactly do y’all think? that’s weird.

[@justrandom8766]

You could just leave. Hes pure evil.

[@taniarysz7949]

A normal person would, but Bob was a money hungry, selfish psychopath

[@bsqwahlE]

No birth control, Shotgun wedding, No divorce, Religious and societal beliefs, Equals murder.

[@JM-ot8ux]

I am so fucking sick of the way hidebound traditions, misogyny, and plain old-fashioned STUPID operates in these dirtburgs.

[@judewishedhimselfout]

That's ridiculous. So many, many marriages started off that way back in the day. People didn't resort to murder. I'm not Mormon, but plenty of them get divorced. So this turd could have too. He's evil, and should be put down for his horrendous crimes.

[@changeintheair9648]

@@judewishedhimselfout Exactly. He was not trapped forever.He chose the path he wanted/thought would work best for him.

[@barbarachipman9436]

i am not a mom but i can tell you i would never let my child get close to danger. they had to be pushed. EVIL

[@crs7461]

what is more stressfull? Using a condom or raising a child you don't want?

[@igotbandaids]

Green River, Wyoming, a town of 12,000, if you are a teen and buy them...everybody 'knows'. Many small towns think they don't have a 'problem' so they don't have family planning agencies. (I do agree with w your point but there are usually underlying situations like trying to keep it hidden)

[@crs7461]

@@igotbandaids You're right. I wish there were more dispensers. Buying a condom as a teen was always awkward, even in cities..

[@brianrodney712]

There is always coitus interruptus.

[@itsjustnopinionok]

Im sure he could have got condoms from someone. But it would have all came out in the open regardless. He was a very selfish person. If not for his wife. He would have made someone elses life miserable.

[@lynnburkhalter1260]

@@igotbandaids Craig was a very small town and there was nothing for teens to do. Except go to the show.. When you have that? is where pregnancy is huge!

[@grantgoldberg1663]

Regardless of the age or whether you're the guy or the girl the most important thing to remember when you become parents is it's no longer about you.

[@monty9619]

I agree with the detectives there was something not right with the home these brothers were raised in. I understand that you can raise a child up right and they still may become a criminal but this type of crime is extreamly cold and very personal. And on top of killing his wife and child he and his brother attempt to kill their own parents. Something was not right in their childhood home. These type of Monsterous, narcissistic, psycho-sociopaths are created.

[@KelluyPowell-1985]

yeah they shot that guy's porch light out by the age of 3

[@tamarapas]

Sorry but a lot of us grow up in broken homes riddled with violence and drugs. Not all of us become cold blooded killers. I definitely believe the environment does help create the possibility but a lot of us use this to do better for ours and the world we impact

[@TheWanderingFinnegan]

I would be a perfect government parasite if my environment made me. I'd be a serial mass murdering genocidal child molesting thug.

[@Kathy-kr1sv]

​@@tamarapasYes. Well said.. And also some are just born to kill... MUST add these religions with endless needless rules are mind twisting crap

[@olilumgbalu5653]

"These type of Monsterous, narcissistic, psyco-sociopaths are created". Then it must have been his parents who created him, literally and metaphorically.

[@Emiliapocalypse]

When abstinence only education has tragic consequences. RIP 🌹

[@matthewthomasjames]

Emiliapocalypse But then again, how effective is contraceptive education if it's not used? And it often isn't, even when readily available. Goes both ways

[@Emiliapocalypse]

Ratty Hall It doesn’t really go both ways though. Because it’s about ignorance versus stupidity. One is being unaware of safety precautions because the adults didn’t think to warn you, and the other is knowing the consequences, then actively throwing caution to the wind. You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. You also can’t fix stupid. So if the argument is that we should not teach our kids about birth control and condoms because we think that they’re too stupid to use them when needed....well, then maybe society has a bigger problem. 🤷‍♀️

[@matthewthomasjames]

Emiliapocalypse Lets face it. Most youngsters who engage in premarital sex these days are fully aware of contraceptives, but choose not to use them. I think it's a rarity that accidental pregnancies come about just because a person has been taught that abstinence is best.

[@Trinkette__00]

@@matthewthomasjamesgo read something about small town American high schools. I watched a VICE report a while back about teenage pregnancies and lack of sex ed in schools, add that to their ‘Christian’ teachings and these teenagers don’t stand a chance of being well informed and educated to not become pregnant, it’s literally irrelevant that contraceptives are available.

[@lynnburkhalter1260]

I got pregnant at 17. I worked really hard to provide for my daughter.Her dad asked me 5 different time to marry him. Each time I said no! The reason? He was never going to throw it in my face that I made him quit school or keeping him from going to college. I was doing just fine taking care of my baby I didn't need him to help me. This guy pushed them. He didn't want to have that life in the first place. He wanted to go to college and leave that town. Its called get a JOB!!

[@IveGotItTwisted]

Marriage is for the 2 people involved anyway, not for the children! Marry for love, not because you feel like you 'should'. You should be proud of having raised your daughter well at such a young age. It's HARD having kids young and raising them. Way to go mama 💪

[@lynnburkhalter1260]

@@IveGotItTwisted Thank you for your kind words.

[@murugithecook]

@@IveGotItTwisted you're right. I moved in with my highschool sweetheart soon after we were both done with highschool and things went ugly 😢😢 first months we were all good til I got pregnant and things changed. Having no job he'd leave for 3 days leave Me with nothing I lost my pregnancy and things got worse he'd beat Me up call me stupid andi woke up one day and decide enough was enough. I left to my mum's picked up my broken pieces and I thank God I did make that decision. He is currently in Jail he stabbed his girlfriend soon after I left.

[@arthinwabrown]

Thank God you left Caroline; be strong, you can still accomplish your goals!!

[@murugithecook]

@@arthinwabrown thanks dear. I am almost done with my diploma in Hospitality management and I am at peace and most importantly I am alive.

[@angelmessenger8240]

'Poor boy felt trapped' by getting a girl pregnant and having to marry her. Well he should've kept his damn pants on then!

[@Emi14873]

Or prepared for child support.

[@abbysowe6258]

There were lots of things Bob's parents were hiding...

[@Bella-cz6od]

"Taking a leap of faith, they decide to pursue the case."- Perhaps wasn't the best phase for being tossed off a mountain. lol

[@nhistymehewill3831]

@Bella 😂😅😂 Right!

[@ashleyunderwood1574]

Listening to how much Bob whined about how miserable his life was is pathetic.

[@bakecookandcreate9948]

So in the end, the town thug Roger turned out to be a decent guy and the respectable Bob turned into an evil murderer! Wow!

[@Flamsterette]

All right - something I can watch because it's available in my country!

[@goodpeopleprosper635]

Bob parents are the true problem/villains. They raised a 😈 son who had no soul or morals b/c they let him GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING

[@yolandaharrison1081]

My Heart Thoughts through prayers goes out to her Whole Entire Family & close Friends I am very sorry for your lossess A Family that Prays together stays together be Encouraged for better days are coming take it All one day at a time for it gets harder each day May God comforts All of you in Gives you Strength Rest Well in Paradise 😇😇 Beautiful Angels 🕊️🙏

[@elsam6090]

Mom and baby together for ever

[@annagoodheart0711]

Whoever wants to go for a date after watching this, please watch out and take care of your life.

[@kelliep.8514]

That's a marriage on the rocks taken to a whole new level.

[@jackieann5494]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@brittaolson6550]

Kellie P. 😶

[@pauladouglas9891]

Good one, lol

[@helenmcdonnell2585]

😂

[@WWoftheW]

Oh shit 😂

[@ber9313]

Awe poor Bob didn't get "jeeps and toys". No sympathy for Leeanna and her son who didn't get to even live. Its all about Bob who didn't get to play.

[@catspaw3092]

Bob should've divorced Liana & left even if she didn't want the divorce he could've divorced her without her signature Bob would've been free to leave tow & start a new life. Sure he would've had to pay child support but he wouldn't had to be married to Liana anymore.

[@ninaray4479]

Ha Roger I'm watching you on tv now, AND here you are... you're on Dateline 20/20... you are a very outstanding man, plz don't ever let anyone tell you any diff... if it wasn't for you those sweet souls would never, never gotten ever lasting peace... I love Keith Morrison... he's a good Story Teller...

[@kientekarladambo1877]

I cannot believe hor only got 3 years!!! What da hell! Sick part was his father standing soooo close to his dear son and didn't know it.

[@ileanamuntean7338]

All he had to do is walk away. Yes, people might believe he was an ar ole (which they probably believed anyway) but that's far better than being a murderer.

[@bgtsfreds]

I love this show, the bad wigs just make it even better! Seriously though, what an absolute horrible person.

[@jeynjohnston8085]

Bob's gonna hear that bloody gurgle for an eternity now.

[@MsKeva771]

I'm a single mother in a small town and if my son had hopes and dreams of leaving and I knew he didn't really love a girl or see a happily ever after with her after she "accidentally" became pregnant I would have told him to go and be free. Be a father, love and financially support your son but go. ESPECIALLY if I'm in that small town to see about my grandchild. The kid would have my love and financial support, but I'd tell my boy to go. I wouldn't want my son to be miserable if he never wanted to be with her forever to begin with. All kinds of hell can break loose when a man is forced into something he never wanted.

[@ItsACTION386]

Jessica Rabbit I agree

[@ItsACTION386]

I think this with the looney tho whether it been a family or a job he would have still killed someone I think this was just in him

[@BinkyTheGoddessDivine]

What makes you think telling the truth to someone is the best way, and/or they would've listened to you? Truth is like poetry, and everybody hates poetry.

[@olilumgbalu5653]

I agree that forced marriage for any reason is not a good idea, however, in this particular case, Bob was clearly a sociopath/psychopath and even if had escaped this motive for killing, he would have found another with someone else.

[@Matthew-m2n]

Or!!! Just an idea!! Maybe you should teach your son about safe sex and why he should have safe sex until after he is married?? Maybe you should sit down with your son and tell him. No glove, no love. Or better yet let's start teaching our children that abstinence is best because sex is reserved for the person you marry. Nothing to do with religion. As parents lets make sure we have those uncomfortable conversations and make sure that our children understand about sex and what could happen if they have sex. Parents need to be more direct and teach their kids how to protect theirself and think ahead

[@rosesmith6925]

I could have sworn there was a witness that saw him standing at the bottom of the cliff (which would explain how he 'heard' the boys gurgling breaths and that he also Knew of the trail to get to them), but I guess that was another 'shove your loved ones off a cliff' episode 😶

[@IveGotItTwisted]

Sadly I've also seen other similar cases so it could have been another one. Not sure which one, there are too many :(

[@Aluminata]

The look on Bobs face at around 51.35 - is priceless...

[@petej8556]

Don't think I can really see anyone from this town taking the MENSA Challenge!

[@chrysichrysi7889]

Lol!

[@burly636]

Seems that jokingly killing your wife and SON would not be considered as venting, not even being perceived as a joke.

[@prettybrowneyez3338]

If this POS is capable of trying to kill his PARENTS for money..... Of course he killed his wife and child!!! Poor baby, and beautiful young woman... RIP. As I wrote this, the narrator said the same thing...

[@visitswflorida]

If he hadn't gotten greedy he'd be scott free to this day. No one can mess you over as badly as you do yourself. The fact that he would sleep with a thirteen year old speaks volumes.

[@visitswflorida]

I meant in his mind how he saw it not actual facts

[@crystalrobinson3101]

We never slept together

[@destiny_6ftstallion]

Definitely a chilling case. The two experts are seriously annoying. One is forensic and one is physcotherapy. I swear they seem more in competition with who's theory is correct or more plausible. And they really are stating the obvious.

[@michelesmith8645]

leonora lettman I really like them

[@fmcevoy1]

This clown could have talked with a career counselor. Just because he has a young family doesn't mean he can't take one course a semester at a nearby school. My brother got his B.A. online years ago, when online wasn't much of a thing.

[@Venus-gn5oi]

I don't think you need a religion to stay straight in life. I'm not a mormon, don't smoke, don't drink, never took drugs, never cheated...It's not a religion that makes you a good person, it's your own integrity. When you don't have integrity, no religion can help you.

[@brittaolson6550]

I’m glad Roger said something. I’ll bet he wishes he would’ve said something sooner

[@johannasimmons2459]

A child off the cliff? I don't know what to say, senseless people out here… smh..

[@ELZZEYE]

Local thug reminding me of Adam Sandler. anyway.... stacy and brian can go... We're already sorting things out while watching. We don't need them. LOL

[@humanearthling4661]

So long as people keep considering the wrong aspects of an issue, they will NEVER ask the right questions, to wit: Is a teenager MATURE at 16? NO A mature person does not get pregnant out of wedlock. A mature person has control of their impulses.

[@IveGotItTwisted]

A mature person doesn't get pregnant before they're ready to raise a child. Marriage has nothing to do with it. My 'husband' and I are common law but not actually married and our first is due in October. We're very happy and also mature enough to raise a child well into a healthy, happy, confident person. I can't wait to see who my daughter is when she grows up ❤️

[@IveGotItTwisted]

I get what you mean though and you ARE right. 16 year olds are not mature. Some 16 year olds who get pregnant are spectacular parents but that's the exception rather than the rule.

[@humanearthling4661]

@@IveGotItTwisted You are right of course. I know some women who are defined by maturity in raising their child at a very young age. Having a child matures one very quickly; it there is even a smidgen of maturity lurking there.

[@usutonueteuati1141]

It's so scary to watch it. I would rather stay single for the rest of my life than finding my brain splattered around the walls of the house. Oh what is wrong with them?

[@lesego20]

I actually enjoy the psychologists input 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@suevans6436]

These two spoil a good programme, their input is not needed we are not stupid.

[@laitemusironka9633]

Evil evil man.funny how the friend who everyone thought is a bad boy did good..why kill them surely.and as of the parents,their denial did this to him. Always thinking he is a perfect child

[@brotheramartey777]

Most parents really don't know their children. Children often have two faces, one for parents and another for the real self. A smart fellow knows that most people are depraved and will do anything for money.

[@lisawentworth6831]

Bad guy turned good; good guy turned bad. I guess you never know what is in the hearts of men...

[@lilraider22]

If he had "big ideas", he shouldn't have been playing adult and having unprotected s3x. I always find it interesting when people are selectivity religious. I am sure having s3x at 16 isn't encouraged by her religion. Also, forcing kids to get married is a terrible idea. I don't understand why men commit unalivings just to avoid child support. If he weren't going to be a father he could have easily moved to Texas with his brother and paid almost nothing in child support. His parents are in complete denial about their sons being horrible people, which they don't want to accept because it means they failed as parents, which isn't necessarily true.

[@anr8507]

It could seem odd but I enjoy watching fatal vow just to improve my english 😀

[@petierican6079]

Very interesting documentary but a little scary,,well very scary

[@neenanorto3399]

Bob is guilty,guilty GUIlTY!😡👹

[@rowredround7206]

Divorce is ugly, but growing up in a house where the parents detest each other is more damaging.

[@kindacrazyAna14]

And y'all had us thinking Rodger was the bad one!

[@clarisaantiagingdermatology]

Your channel is one of the best 👌 on KZbin. The production of your videos is outstanding 👏

[@Luis-ht4tl]

I love the voice of the lady narrador

[@pauladouglas9891]

He could have just divorced her, why didn't she think he would cheat? She forced him to marry.

[@SonjaElizabethTeal]

I am sure there was no gun put his head at his wedding...

[@victrola2007]

Local police clearly didn't follow protocol. No matter what, failing to do basic due diligence? Hell no.

[@wilhelminakey5776]

This is why if someone don't want you move on! Get a divorce! Religious people need to get out of a dangerous marriage/relationship! Your life is worth it! Tell your pastor to take your place in the your home and see what happens! People like this that kills their wife / husband and child/ children is just plain evil and selfish!

[@brittaolson6550]

Wilhelmina key Amen to that.

[@marwanochoq3768]

👍

[@gatocat3336]

What child would want to spend his birthday in such a place

[@jimboy419]

they sure talk slow up there in Wyoming

[@rosesmith7914]

LOL MAN U R FUNNY FOR THIS ONE SMH.

[@dsw_heelskill9013]

James HIgbie 😂

[@tarawehry7105]

Divorce is always an option, Murder is not.

[@smnvo1129]

Why Bob killed his wife and the son? Just get a divorce which is the best option for an unhappy marriage.

[@benjaminj283]

Don't blame marriage, blame the culture guided by nothing but passion. I am from a different part of the world where the culture is, first a man and a woman learn a skill and get a job to earn their living, then search out a like minded partner and then they get married for life and only then have children.

[@mymindseyesees2002]

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[@shortgiraffe6311]

This guy was a sicko! Back in the 80s, divorce WAS socially unacceptable but that doesn't mean people killed each other. This guy was an exception. In this day and age the couple would not be forced to marry but marrying wouldn't guaranty happiness. It is very sad that mother and son lost their lives. His parents should count themselves blessed.

[@jeanniecatton9168]

The "bad boy" Roger is the one with a conscience.

[@waderivers3304]

Can you imagine what that child must have thought the moment his dad threw him off? I can’t imagine how someone could do that to his wife let alone his precious child. Only justice is hell. He should have known that being a Mormon.

[@cristyramirez7329]

I thought only Laina was Mormon

[@birgittabirgersdatter8082]

Well it wasn't "his precious child" the child was not precious at all, but a burden instead. People don't throw away precious things, they throw away burdensome things.

[@TheWriterWalker]

​@@cristyramirez7329 You're right. Only the wife had been raised Mormon.

[@ohioartifactdude5658]

How on earth can the psychologist or whatever they are say that there had to be some secrets in Bobs home life? How do you make that leap with no evidence? Did his five year old have some secrets that made him kill him? Maybe he was just a monster who wanted to kill people for the money.

[@chrysichrysi7889]

Because alot of times, when spouses become abusive/violent it's usually because they have alot of dirt to hide. But I agree, without real evidence it remains a suspicion.

[@birgittabirgersdatter8082]

She was referring to secrets in Bob's family home. Bob's parents said they had a close relationship with their sons. Clearly they didn't and obviously there were some major secrets in that home.

[@BellaElla13]

It turns out the hell raiser is much more decent and caring than the “good guy from a “good” family….

[@nataliemeenakshithegreat7780]

I wish they had put her son in her arms for that journey to heaven 😭

[@TheWanderingFinnegan]

LOL wut?

[@JewelEzra]

​@@TheWanderingFinneganthat crap drives me crazy especially when it's about people that are murdered.

[@mymindseyesees2002]

user-sx9rx because it’s all about you

[@DCLauraG]

She was so beautiful and he has a beaker shaped head.

[@dolinaj1]

No birth control in Wyoming? No excuse for such a grim, life-changing event for a young woman.