Behringer 369-KT - Baller On A Budget!

Here it is! I have managed to grab the new Behringer 369-KT and today we're going to put it up against the UAD variant of the revered Neve 33609 and see how it fares!
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Timeline:
00:00 Intro
01:05 - How Does The Hardware Feel?
02:23 - Software vs Hardware
10:22 - Mixbus
15:00 - More Thoughts
16:21 - Outro
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[@AKMacintyre]

Fanatastic Video, Ollie ! yes the knobs seemed like you were screwing in RoboCop's Helmet lol

[@OliverShillito]

They truly feel dreadful.

[@Studio22mix]

I've got one coming in two weeks, nice to hear everyone seems to like it a lot on the reviews so far. Behringer has a 1073DPX clone coming, the 1273, I hope that one is just as amazing for 640 euro. Love to hear the comparison with the real deal, so I subscribed. Great channel 🤟🏼

[@OliverShillito]

Thank you! You will be pleasantly surprised. I am just shooting the second video now. That’s all I am saying.

[@EpicWinz]

Im obsessed with bus comps, so this is a must buy for me ❤

[@MixedByDotRob]

Great video! I never liked the UAD 33609 plugin ... always sounded a bit flat to me. But I'm really pleasantly surprised by the Behringer!

[@OliverShillito]

So am I so far. For a device a cheap as it is, even if it isn’t identical to a Neve. It’s still a great sounding compressor!

[@joesalyers]

Thanks for making this video but could you test the auto release modes since just using 100 milliseconds is just peak shaving and the 33609 and other diode bridge compressors were built for program audio leveling not really aggressive compression.

[@OliverShillito]

Sure thing. I’ll test the other release modes when I do the hardware comparison!

[@joesalyers]

@@OliverShillito Thanks Cheers!!!!

[@ramspencer5492]

Cool video. And you've got a the Neve coming over for s direct comparison. Subscribed. 😎 As far as plugins of this one, have you tried the Arturia version? The sidechain lets you dial in a fairly convincing Neve 33609 sound.... At least for a plugin. And I'm not a plugin basher at all

[@OliverShillito]

I haven’t actually. I’m fairly sure Antelope make one too but I need to refresh myself on their plugin suite!

[@GeoffBosco]

Finally, a demo on something other than a full song.

[@kevinlentz7604]

Song in the middle awesome 😮

[@philippekuhn7791]

can you explain the different setting of slow and fast attack on the two channels in the first 14.35 minutes?

[@OliverShillito]

I’ve found the difference between fast and slow fairly minimal so it doesn’t make a huge difference really even if I did forget to change the Behringer. Fast is 3ms and slow is 6ms, so there isn’t much in it!

[@RJ1J]

33609 is meant to be a buss compressor and a mastering compressor, hence a limiter. Sounds a lot better on the full mix than on the drums. I think your snare was way too high in the mix. The compressor isn't fast enough to catch super loud snares, which threw off the overall effect of the hardware compressor.

[@OliverShillito]

Well, I’m going to shoot it out against the real one. So I’ll try out some of the different release modes on some different source material and see how it fares!

[@jmoemorris4133]

I really like that Neve plugin especially with the snare it just has more punch and snap, with the attack and release set right to a song that Neve has it for me.

[@OliverShillito]

Fair! We’ll see how it stacks up against a real one soon!

[@lubos.8827]

why is the Audioscape level needle moving?

[@OliverShillito]

It was on the bass track!

[@chrisdover8507]

Hey Ollie can you use ‘access analog’ to do a solid comparison against a genuine Neve? Access analog is only like $10 to use the Neve

[@OliverShillito]

I could do that but I’ve found that Access Analogue doesn’t sound right to me. Not sure if the audio gets compressed or something but I used to used their SSL Fusion and once I’d bought my own, it sounded totally different! I have however got a Neve arriving in the post tomorrow for said comparison. So watch this space!

[@chrisdover8507]

@@OliverShillito can you post a blind test on slutz once you get the Neve? Exciting

[@OliverShillito]

I’ll look into it!

[@EchoReverb6]

mono/stereo swith change anything ? thanks

[@OliverShillito]

I tried both but it’s subtle if I’m being honest

[@MoreMeRecording]

You like the way the h/w chewed up the highend more? All I had to do was listen to the OHs from that drum buss and I knew it was what I was expecting it to be. RIGHT up there with WARN Audio Pultec nonsense lol.

[@ericofelix2005]

Can we use it deliberately as a single mono channel processing, for example for vocal? Although it has the name "Stereo Bus Compressor"

[@OliverShillito]

It can be used as dual mono and has two separate sets of controls so there’s nothing stopping you!

[@ericofelix2005]

@@OliverShillito nice then! That means I can use it on different mono tracks all at once, and stereo too for bus compression. This is so great! Their sound also amazing for its price range 😁

[@2112jonr]

Espen Kraft made exactly the same complaint about the knobs being WAY too stiff. A knob even broke off on his.

[@OliverShillito]

Yeah, they are total garbage.

[@lukegowest]

Hi, I want one of these, but I can't find one. Noone has this in stock. where did you get yours? thanks,Luke

[@OliverShillito]

I got lucky and found one brand new on eBay! They are out of stock everywhere until a couple of months time I think!

[@Ricochetmex]

You should consider some blind comparations once you have the Neve, that would be super interesting

[@OliverShillito]

Working on that very plan!

[@royallmuzikproductionzuk7912]

Hi there nice review. What’s the deal on the availability in Uk ? Does anyone know in the comments. I’ve tried a few shops and I can’t get next day delivery 😢. Really 🤔 one shop says till November another one says 2 wks . Anyone with a link for next day delivery please send 🫡. Cheers

[@OliverShillito]

As far as I am aware it’s out of stock literally everywhere! Not even Thomann have them in stock at the moment! I guess you’d just need to pre-order one and wait it out!

[@peterskorec4421]

hardware is adding depth as always

[@MoreMeRecording]

At the expense of the high end. As I thought it would end up like, typical lipstick on a pig we see and hear from Behranger and even WARM. Dude even looked like he wanted to like the h/w more toggling back and forth and I'm sure it's because of the fact that the plugin retained the high end where the Beranger just ate it.

[@vkay121]

the voice over mic has this hum going , thankfully it gets cut off when the "daw" audio plays

[@OliverShillito]

It does. Sorry about that. I realised after the fact that I’d left my air conditioner on and you can hear it 😂

[@tobiaszachl]

Thanks for the review. btw: when your mic is on, there's a hum...

[@OliverShillito]

Yes I’m aware. Sorry about that. Will fix it for future videos! Definitely left the air conditioner on by mistake 😂

[@JesusSanchez-pz1ii]

Beutiful

[@1loveMusic2003]

I prefer a slower attack on drums to prevent the spitty thing.

[@georgeogrady449]

Equipment sound better then computer

[@Firetracks]

Hardware won hands down!

[@1loveMusic2003]

The plugin is chocking the snare the hardware isn't IMO

[@c03x157]

The hardware sound better 🎧

[@EchoReverb6]

hardware win more thickness . beef lowend .

[@united100]

hardware wins over the plugin.... Biiig time.

[@OliverShillito]

Yeah I think so too!

[@jaroplichta]

I can't agree. Your mind would like the hardware Behr.. to sound better now that you've bought it. But I have to say that in this case the software Neve sounds better, punchier. Behringer muddied the low mids. As I have a Neve 33609 in my studio and I compared it with the UAD plugin, I can say that the plugin is very close to the original and we can consider it as a reference.

[@OliverShillito]

I wouldn’t say that has influenced me. It’s out of stock everywhere so I could just as easily sell it. However I do have a neve on the way also to shoot it out against so let’s see how it fares!

[@tecno8335]

Behringer should of let Klark Teknik make this instead.

[@vonantesberg]

I bow down to the rip off king because the rip off king rules.

[@rickyhypeprod]

I just tested one of these, the only thing that it has in common with the original units is that you need electicity to turn it on...

[@luvitluvitbaby]

Software by 10,000 miles!

[@nicefish10]

Fucking Behringer ripping off Neve now>…..pathetic they can get away with shit like this.

[@OliverShillito]

I’d hazard a guess that the patent on the 33609 has ran out. There are several companies now making 33609 clones. Audioscape are due to release one as well soon!

[@EchoReverb6]

....hater

[@RockmannMusic]

Haha, you again

[@Studio22mix]

If BAE, Warm Audio or Heritage Audio do it, we call it a clone, if Behringer does it we call it a rip-off ... Come on dude 🤣

[@RockmannMusic]

@@Studio22mix Some fishes just stink

[@JewelzFinazzo]

I dont trust anything by Behringer. And no one will change my mind.

[@OliverShillito]

I was in that boat too but credit where credit is due. I think this unit is pretty damn good!

[@QuantizStudioRecords]

So you re not an openminded person. The Behringer is really awesome in these years...synths...digital mixers...at very fair prices

[@Whyme103]

I have expensive gear, however my first piece of Behringer was a condenser microphone 20 years back and I was impressed. Since then I own plenty of Behringer gear, I can care less what someone else says how they hate Behringer.

[@JewelzFinazzo]

@@QuantizStudioRecords their synths do not match up with my Moogs and Oberheims. Nor their outboard gear with my Neve, SSL and other outboard gear. And so on.... I'm so closed-minded I even eat my hot dogs sideways.

[@DanielIvan707]

Plug ins suck compare to hardware

[@mirkomarkovic3438]

That sounds nothing like a 33609. Not a bad comp but way too pricey, $200 tops.

[@OliverShillito]

Well I guess I’ll find out tomorrow! I’ve got a Neve on the way to find out!

[@MixedByDb]

@@OliverShillito ooo waiting for that

[@mirkomarkovic3438]

@@OliverShillito good cause the plugin doesn't convincingly sound like a 33609 either 😂

[@dr.donath]

If I am correct, there are plenty of compressors on the market with similar capabilities for $200. Can you name a few?

[@mattdegnan2989]

Neve plugin wins easily