You need 2 summing mixers... 16 chan is a good quantity... 32 ideal... other point, the use of analog gear must be through inserts in the summing mixer since it has physical room to go, while in the box is digital...

Thank You Oliver. I've watched a lot of videos on this topic, but this is the only one that worked for me.

Thanks for the demonstration ☺️

Thanks for comparing!

N > 1:30 B > 1:43

Cheers Oliver! Great video

If you have two Pulltec’s you can do this vocal trick: Pulltec cut low 10 Hz boost high 5 kHz, then LA2A into second Pulltec boost low and cut high back. This brings the vocal upfront in high density mix. By the way I would love to hear the Audioscape 260 VU 🤟🏼

Ed Wynne never had any tube compressor 'magic' yet he made some the best music of the last century...

Behringer needs to make a 500 series.

Thanks for the video! Now I know that it's better not to buy 369-KT. Even through KZbin it sounds like a crap. Nice case for DIY though...

Great video, very good explanation of the settings. Really surgical and versatile compressor 👌🏼

I wanted to hate them, unfortunately I could not !! hahahhahh lol .. Honestly I really like everything this company does just from the reason that they give producers (like me) the ability to step up their game with not much of a money, it gives a poor producers the feel of being professional in what they do, they open doors for era that was kept only for A-LIST producers, no more :]

There are more coherent sublows with tne neve, and behringer seems to mess up with stereo image a bit... Kick tends to hit a little more in the L than the R

Great video! Subscribed…

The small differences are what make the difference. If I want the 33609 sound, I want that exact sound. If I wanted "almost the same sound" I would buy the plugin for 50$.

If the settings of two plugins are the same, there is no need for the two plugins to exist. Just those plugins are different, and categorized into variety Each manufacturer may include different settings using different technologies. Users can create and save many settings, and control various settings with the knob included with the product.

your doing a really good job ...thanx

Great review, as a studioowner myself is see more and more the importancce of good psu designs in the rack units. Please compare noisefloor and show it on an analyzer plugin, with more and more analog stuff in a big mix, all mathers, especially gainstaging and noisefloor. Thank you !

I’ll get the more affordable but still stellar IGS rubberbands

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Like the Neve is grabbing the 1/8 notes and the Behringer is grabbing the 1/4 notes

At around 8 min, the Neve looked and sounded more subtly responsive and even when the Behringer was grabbing the snare more?

Open it up! I wanna see the guts

The fact two hardware compressors null out this much is f*¡g insane! I have a real itch to get this one!!!

Behringer is working more like a plugin with strange saturation on high mids. Just look what is happening with snare, how clean and soft it is with neve, and harsh with behringer. I wold love to see comparision between behringer and an UAD 33609. Bcs maybe its better to buy 50$ plugin than 500$ unit... i can bet they sound allmost the same.

There are parts of this shootout where the units don’t have matching settings and it sounds weird.

thank you very much dude 👌

There are still AudioScape cup holders up for grabs! Get them while they last!

When I use HW insert in Pro Tools (latest version) with my Apollo X6, apparently latency is compensated automatically because the outcome of your test on my system is NO DELAY between the tracks. Even by listening to the same track in parallel with HW insert there is no perceived phase shift... It's a sort of mistery which is apparently non documented anywhere, but It works for me...

I find the Neve more polished with a bit more of a natural low and high end (I would hope so for the price lol) but the Behringer has a slight 'cool ugly' thing going on in the upper mids - I really like what it does to the snare, and it's otherwise pretty close. NGL I know they're not a transformer maker originally but Midas has done a really good job on the transformers in all this stuff, kicks the ass of the old Behringer output transformers if you want colour. I like my Klark Teknik boxes a lot for what they are - really cheap way to play around with these older style designs.

Good demo but I was really distracted by your fingernails. I hope everything is ok.

Im hearing a little bit more musical Pumping on the Neve. On the Full mix it is realy noticable when all the Instruments play. The guitars have that little bit of a ducking effect in grove with the Kick, to leit it through a bit more. But still very close.

It does sound great. You're other video really helped decide to buy that Chroma Console, now you've talked me into this lol. Loved the song also who was the artist you were mixing here?

do non linear units null against themselves?

the cumulative effect in the mix is key, the behringer is brighter and squealing the mids, the tone is rawkus, once you pile up a few instruments recorded with this it's really going to give you a hard time in the mix, high end gear gives you that last 10% of polish that allows for more clarity once the whole track is mixed, listening to tracks over and over is less tiresome and that's what separates a classic track from others, people need to listen to them over and over, they will only do this if their ears aren't warn out, if you are going to record a couple of things then go for the behringer, but if you have to process 10+ tracks of audio +add effects then use something more subtle, warm audio, avalon, stam, hk, manley, ssl... I've worked with 100+ tracks of audio many many times, something with the behringer tonal quality might only go on 1 or 2 of the tracks, why lose the stereo image and room tone that you spent time carefully setting up... I'm sure people will make great records with it but they won't be great because they used the behringer, however using some high end gear can make average music into timeless music. that last 5-10% that good gear gives you is what makes an average song into a spectacular piece of music... ...that'll do, is the enemy of greatness.

You have 128 channels so I don’t think two is really gonna matter. Why are people making a big deal about this?

Since you have two, you could do the Andrew Scheps vocal trick. 1st Pulltec cut the lows at 100Hz and boost the high at 5kHz then into the LA2A into the 2nd Pulltec bring the lows back in and attenuate the high back down. Works really well in a dense rock mix 🤟🏼

ahhhhhhhhhh AHHHHHH EQ! AAHHHHH!!!

+1 for a 24 frames per second frame rate video from a European creator!

Was looking at Stam for my EQP-1A/LA-2A lustings but you're talking me round to Audioscape mate!

Do you have the problem with the buffer size limitation? (Max 512 samples)

Give away yeeeeee 😊

yep, that why most people just use the Digi design converters to get the automatic delay compensation. Plus there easier to mod then apogee and this new Chinese crap parts in converters.

I’d be willing to bet if the behringer unit had the Midas name on it it they wouldn’t,’t be able to manufacture them fast enough. I honestly believe this is an outstanding tool.

Thank you, this is so use full. 🤞🏽🙏🏽

Now change your buffersize 🤣 How is this still a thing in ProTools?!

For the minor differences it ain't worth paying the extra 2k for the OG.

Ah yes, the dreaded delay compensation : / Good stuff ! Solid info

Well done thanks ill be going through this process soon as well Some whack comme ts from people that obviously have never touched hardware in their life if they have then their moxes would sound horrific with everything that comes with no delay compensation for hardware inserts Good video thanks

And in the newest update it got worse. In Logic you have a plugin that calculates the latency. Ridiculous not having the same in PT. Thanks :) I have that VLA II Pro