Behringer 369 (Neve 33609 Clone) Sound Check

[@gabedestellano]

My God! Someone who actually knows how to use a compressor on KZbin!

[@MixedByDotRob]

I came for the compressor, but stayed for the music! 👍

[@A.T.82]

The same :)

[@texacomann]

❤The music ❤what you need a compressor anymore?

[@RoyChartier]

Great song!

[@PatrickStefan]

sick vocoder!

[@G4Nazarener]

@@PatrickStefanI think it’s a talkbox: kzbin.info/www/bejne/npCvZqlvhLmGrsUsi=Rc-fNr7bYkUoVrR8

[@MicRoussos]

This is a great example of “it’s not the car, it’s the driver”! It’s how you use it! Great video!👏

[@andreievkalupniek5717]

It creates space and brings forward the vocals and glues the bottom to the rest of the mix

[@MattnUska]

This is a way better demo than the official demo.

[@caminglis53]

Actually the best thing Behringer ever made has to be said

[@markmorrell3494]

33609 is one of my favs, and have worked with a few. All different revisions and one was specifically modded to be aggressive. From what I hear, this is so in the ball park. Definitely on my buy list.

[@guterton]

I think it's worth it, I like this box more and more.

[@kylemccombmusic]

Extremely good demo, thank you for sharing. This thing sounds seriously great!

[@piterb.5444]

Came for the compressor, but just found my new favorite artist!

[@NikolausBrocke]

First, great song. And the compressor ... very convincing.

[@mathumphreys]

Wow! This is the track to demo this thing. Love it when you are really pushing it.

[@joekaplowitz2719]

Thank you for the video, music and for showing the guts inside the box!

[@Zenvo-uu9tm]

Thank God a cool sounding demo track ❤. Not another "splashy already squashed" drum example

[@pongtrometer]

So many flavours 🍭 the power of sculpting using your ears

[@XNBeatsMusic]

Hey, a lot better than I expected.

[@carl-magnusconsitt7389]

Well done, this is how you use the compressor in a real song! Impressive showcase, this should be Behringers demo of the compressor. Sounds very good! Im just bought one after your demo! 😀👍😛

[@Mheyos]

Dude, freakin good test and sound love it, thanx for that. Definatly gonna buy one, it s really woorth it :)

[@KacyDennis]

Thanks for taking the time putting this video together. 👍🏼

[@SonicProvocateur]

Man, I really wanted to hear those auto recovery settings on program material. That tells alot about how it actually stacks up against a real 33609, which is dry and weighty.

[@Furybeatsgme]

It's actually very clean and musical sounding behringer did a good job, wish it had a sidechain and mix knob so it could be used with more bass heavy music

[@bolttracks]

being a hardware unit, you can just blend it with the dry signal within your DAW

[@dna598]

See Dan worralls video on emphasis/de emphasis eq. It's effectively sidechain filtering. Basically, if you cut the lows with an eq before comp, with the same eq boosted after the comp, you have a hpf sidechain.

[@Furybeatsgme]

@@dna598 I'll have to check that out.

[@sweetspike]

@@dna598that’s not a good tip and that’s not what the side chain hpf detection does I own a dramatic audio obsidian and won’t mix without the hpf detection in and set to 330hz. Opens up kicks and big snares 3:10

[@dna598]

@@sweetspike I said "effectively". It does exactly what's needed.

[@BMRStudio]

Sounds like a Studer reel to reel with DBX preamps…

[@bassface84]

Great sounding compressor. Was trying to follow the knob tweaking but I'm over here grooving too hard...

[@Aliceinternetz]

thanks, finally a usefull demo that is banging the transistors

[@paulsvenson7585]

Thanks. Sounds good. Great song and recording!

[@p.m-audio]

best compressor demo i ever seen, thanks for this. Very Great Compressor, but not my expectation when i compare it to the original. the price is awesome

[@artysanmobile]

The 33609 has long been a favorite of mine. Subtle or outrageous. Both are easily found and even the switch stops don’t get in the way. Please let Behringer’s clone be expensive enough to be taken seriously.

[@j.charleshiggins5503]

Guy is a talk box beast

[@cylonvoiceguy]

Came to post this! daaaamn that was a great performance I'm still smiling over here hehe

[@breakburrito]

Those drums....sound huge on a tiny speaker. Brilliant performance too.

[@Elektrifekt]

This demo sold me this unit

[@Didirocku]

I’m buying one because of this video

[@kurtralske4026]

Good demo, unit sounds good....and the track is DOPE !

[@gwsound]

Thanks for the video. Noticed that you have the unit in dual mono and not in stereo. This has some effect on the stereo image.

[@guterton]

Yes, that's because I like every compressor unlinked better and almost always use it that way. However, things can get weird when exaggerated like this, or when the L/R signals are very different.

[@gwsound]

@@guterton it depends on the way that the compressor handles its stereo side chain. In general for a mix bus the stereo mode should sound better.

[@dangerdaveball]

Holy cow these guys are great

[@Polentaccio]

This was fantastic... we also have to challenge the " has to live up to the real deal". Is the pricepoint good? Is the sound good? Hardware makes the diff no question and just gets you there quicker. I think it's great we have more options for small studios. I think this unit sounds good personally.

[@FuranGameplays]

The transients are being tamed very nice, sounds tight and groovy

[@JohnGauge790]

Man it’s got the weight too. Impressive. That track goes hard.

[@SuperSonicIL]

That's it I'm getting one!

[@guterton]

Go for it, it's a good steam engine💨

[@kinghandlee]

Looks great and sounds great!

[@SONORSQ2guy]

Great compressor and song!

[@vminator]

Sounds great but the ONLY negative I've personally noticed from the 369 is those threshold pots seem to be really hard to turn and sound like you're stripping a plastic screw head when you turn them. That being said, I'm still gonna get one.

[@guterton]

Agree, these potis aren't that good. I hope they keep up some time :)

[@barisbungybass3577]

Sir! Why didn't you work in stereo mod. Any explain?

[@GivingGodTheGloryG3]

It seems to sound even better the harder you push it

[@future_Victoryofficial]

Is there an EQ like this On the market for Mastering? Tkx

[@gbengaolajide9378]

With the Preamp leak/teaser, I think it will be worthwhile for behringer to come with an excellent eq in this price range. It will become the holy trio 😂

[@everythingjingabell8416]

for each track, these compressor sound amazing to me.

[@chinmeysway]

i guess no attack setting in milliseconds hmm but if for subtle comp on mic bus it’s ok. i just don’t get buying outboard gear for doing subtle things.

[@SylvanPaul]

Totally agree

[@Michael_Geyre]

Great demo, great song Thanks 🙏

[@panamawedding]

There’s no practical difference between this and the Neve, especially if used as a mix bus compressor, low ratio 1-2db rounding of peaks. Heck, I’d even argue it’s not all that different than an API 2500 or SSL G comp. Anyone claiming the difference is more than subtle at best is full of nonsense. It’s incredible that a compressor of this quality has been brought down to a price point accessible by a broader section of the market. Love or hate Behringer, they are taking advantage of economies of scale rarely seen in the pro audio market.

[@pyratellamarecordingstudio1062]

It’s definitely different. But pretty good comp for the price

[@panamawedding]

@@pyratellamarecordingstudio1062 nah

[@Spidouz]

Well, maybe YOU don’t hear the difference, but it doesn’t man others won’t hear it. I know it sounds harsh, but it’s true and don’t worry, I don’t hear it either. But I’ve done some test in a good studio between Neve and SSL compressor. I knew which track was with the Neve and which track was with the SSL… and yet while switching back and forth, I couldn’t hear the difference even thought I could SEE the selected track in my DAW. I’ve done the same test to my friend which is a mix engineer (Gold and Platinum records), and every time he could point to the correct comp model while doing the test completely blindfolded and without looking at the track or myself. It’s at this exact moment I finally realized that even thought I have a really good ear (I’m a recording engineer), my ear was not trained to hear properly the differences in compressors… I finally understood that I couldn’t hear everything my friend could hear.So just like me, you might not have the perfect ear that some engineers will have… Now having said that, I have absolutely no clue if the Behringer is close to the Neve. It might be close enough to the point it doesn’t matter… I just don’t know. But if some people claim they hear difference with a SSL or else, they might be right, even if YOU don’t hear it. But in the end, that’s the whole point… you don’t buy gear for others (unless you’re a commercial studio). So why bother if you don’t hear it, just buy what makes you happy. But you can’t claim others are wrong if they think they hear differences, regardless if the differences are really founded by great engineers that can hear it, or if the differences are just in the head (I’ve done so many ABX blind test that I know that our head can trick us to hear differences when there’s none. One day, I proved it to a client that was swearing he could hear difference… when in fact he was just listening to a copy of the same file and I just renamed them ‘without treatment’ and ‘with treatment’… he was swearing the file ‘with treatment’ sounded better… when it was actually the exact same file than the other. When I explained him it was a copy and he was wrong, he started to claim that my computer “changed” the tone of the file when I did a copy and when I renamed the file… claiming that when I renamed the file, it did _edit_ the file so that’s why it sounded differently… I swear to god, some people just don’t want to let it go. So yeah, our head can play a trick on us, it happens too… but then it’s up to anyone to decide which product they want to purchase, regardless if the differences they’re hearing are really there or just in their head. You just can’t affirm without any scientific data that they’re wrong to think there are differences… as said, you might just not hear them. If you can’t understand that, then you’re not mature enough to even comprehend the art that music is.

[@VinceJackson1]

Everyone wants to hear this compared to the Neve & other clones but for the price this is an excellent mod opportunity! I'm sure mod companies will have upgrade as soon as they get there hands on it.😀

[@otusplay]

Thanks for the video!

[@guterton]

bitte

[@Miltersen]

Sounds pretty good.

[@pyratellamarecordingstudio1062]

It actually sounds good. Be interested in hearing it vs a uad or acustica plug-in. Good video!

[@guterton]

he did a vs uad: kzbin.info/www/bejne/epLOYZRuaruVaa8si=k09J8QjwCVL4NT_J

[@lacollastudio2166]

What. A. Tune. Is it out?

[@eddiexx]

VERY nice mix, regarding the compressor settings they all sounded great. matter of taste

[@Novasoul]

Excellent demo (and song)! Do you still have this unit? Any follow up thoughts since owning it? Thanks.

[@guterton]

Yes still have it, still like it. I filled the knobs with glue so that they don't break off.

[@RayoBeatz]

i think this would do great as a budget mastering compressor i do not think i would get this for vocals at least not from what has been demo i'd get something else like the wa-1b

[@RayoBeatz]

actually pairing this up with the klark eqpt eq would make for a great combo mastering set

[@yaguazo7]

I love everything about this track! Ofcourse your work on it as well!! Got my "STANK" face ON!!

[@yaguazo7]

Oh yeah sorry, Great video/sound DEMO!

[@BolotonMr]

Thank you very much, great demonstration. I have 2 questions. One about gain staging. At what dbvu level does the song enter the compressor. Second, what is the process flow, does the signal go first to the compressor and from the compressor to the limiter or first to the limiter and then to the compressor? Thanks

[@guterton]

Hits at about 0vu (you can see at 5:30) signalflow is comp into limiter.

[@BolotonMr]

@@guterton ❤️

[@rarianfields]

Well damn, this thing sounds delicious

[@guterton]

yes I think it's a great box so far :)

[@devondetroit2529]

I wanna see a 909 thru it

[@ParadNorthProd]

Interesting that there is NO mention anywhere of this unit being a Diode-Bridge compressor. That's a key element of the original. Wonder if this is really being done with VCAs instead.

[@juicythedj750]

It does work with actual diode bridges. It was confirmed by Behringer in a comment on their announcement video. :)

[@guterton]

You can see the (2x 4 discrete) diodes in the intro-shot at 0:08, bottom. As far as I'm not mistaken.

[@atacamabeatsindierecording8406]

I wonder where is a diode bridge in a plug in ?

[@DaveyMulholland]

​@@atacamabeatsindierecording8406😂

[@1981BoogieMan]

😂😂😂​@@atacamabeatsindierecording8406

[@lucasjuniorproducer]

[@guterton]

It's dual-mono, that means the detector is independent for left and right

[@BolotonMr]

Do you think carnhill transformers would improve the replica?

[@guterton]

I don‘t know.. I think the stock ones are fine :)

[@StudioFanThess]

why mono mode?

[@guterton]

I really dig dual-mono in general. I admit it sounds pretty vague with A LOT of GR, but I wouldn't normally set it up that way.

[@davids840]

Could you take some HQ pics of the inside in order to see what opamps are used? Sounds damn good! It's pretty wild to have a 3 trafo stereo path for that price (and you even get a free compressor in it lol)

[@canecreek00]

Lol Op-amps, even the expensive op-amps are cheap, it’s the transformers you should be looking at, and it appears this one has custom transformers made by Midus.

[@jimmarrer]

the signal path is discrete transistor,chips are for things like meter driver circuit,etc..

[@davids840]

@@canecreek00 Yep transformers are custom so not much to look for (unless someone dares to tear one down)

[@theCarouselPainter]

Now waiting for someone to compare it to the heritage clone and the real Neve

[@KooperDun]

Are the threshold knobs bad?

[@guterton]

At least they feel bad.. Threshold and Gain-Knobs. I hope they last a bit but I would not be surprised if they break first.

[@KooperDun]

@@guterton omg, because I really want to buy it but afraid they will get break too soon, do you think there is a better or easy way of replacement ?

[@2dots720]

Great sounding

[@brankodragicevic307]

Nice test and nice sound! Why is mono selected instead of stereo though?

[@NachtSchreck13]

Dope tuneage! Super tight 💪🏼.

[@jeremythornton433]

Nice! has it been released yet to the public?

[@Cinemasweet-i2b]

One day I will get

[@theCarouselPainter]

When this unit sells for a couple bucks second hand, i'll jump on it right away!

[@partlysimpson5154]

IT would be nice if they start maming all the hardware clones, ssl and etc. That would be steal

[@Studio22mix]

I ordered one as soon as I heard from it, definitely curious about this one. For the money definitely worth a try and see if I like it. The Klark Technic LA2A clone is pretty good too and the Pultec clone is pretty dope too. I hope Behringer continues to surprise us with more great gear, a tube mic preamp would be nice or even some 500 series who knows what else they’ve got up their sleeves 😊

[@guterton]

Yes, I have these Klark's too and still like them, especially the kt-2a. I installed better tubes in both, which makes them a little smoother.

[@BamBam_PDX]

Swatty and Moorea are two of my best friends! I was like wait, I know this song. 😂

[@guterton]

:D greetings and tell them: great music!

[@rickblackers88]

Seems great!!! Cheap for us?

[@TNS-AudioMastering]

interesting, not a bad compressor!.. easliy one of, if not the best for that price. cool mix btw, the bottom end is really nice..

[@AndyDrudy]

Great track!

[@johnisrael5183]

Man...my mouth is watering....GOTA HAVE IT!!

[@SourDiesel69]

And here I was thinking the warm audio bus compressor was worth it

[@TheWarriorSongProject]

@TheWarriorSongProject 0 seconds ago Who gives a shit what this was mixed on. This is nasty fucking amazing.

[@johnhenningfield4360]

I have no problem with this, hell if I can swap out parts to my liking then I’m okay with it nonetheless it sounds awesome go Behringer 👍🏼

[@gabedestellano]

So here's my rant about Behringer. Back in the day they used to be an incredible high-end outboard gear company where all of their equipment was made in Germany. For one reason or another, and I'm not going to pretend to know the reason, they stayed in the business but unfortunately had to outsource their gear to China. Fact of the matter is, the genius of Behringer is still there and it's clearly behind so much of their equipment so when people piss and moan about them ripping other companies off or whatever they piss and moan about when it comes to Behringer, I think they should just look at the situation as being an incredible value for equipment that would cost easily five times as much if it was still made in Germany. And as they have control over what they release, does it really matter who's putting it together? I'm never going to be one of those people who know about labor practices or trade practices or any of that shit but one thing I do know a lot about is equipment. I know what works and what doesn't, I know what's good and what's cheap and by cheap I mean made like shit, I know when I've scored something that is pretty damn incredible for what I paid and that happens more often than not with Behringer equipment. I have a number of their mics that cost under $20 and I use them on a regular basis in recording and stage applications and Not one of my peers have ever asked me what I was using because it was terrible. However, "Dude that sounds incredible... what are you using on that?" is pretty common for me to hear on a Friday or Saturday night. I use their UMC-1820 quite frankly because the Midas preamps are just the shit. Especially for the price I paid. The amount of recordings that I've made with that and not one person, not one single customer ever has been disappointed. In fact because of most people's surprise at the quality and my recommendations I'm sure that I've helped them sell so much gear. But whatever, I do the same with any company that I dig and Behringer's just always been there at the top. Everybody knows that they're inexpensive, but what everybody doesn't know is that about 90% of it is just incredible, sadly just because they're afraid of trying it out incase their gear snob egos get crushed and they have to admit something that goes against every other sheep's opinions. Baaahhhh

[@paulmint1775]

Cool tune

[@juicythedj750]

Wow, if you pause at 0:10, looking at the solder patterns for the switches and knobs, it seems like they used actual stepped rotary switches 😮 I just saw another video about the various 33609 revisions and different clones where it turned out the almost 2000$ Heritage Audio clone was using cheap 3$ continuous potentiometers.

[@RoofLight00]

This has got stepped pots.

[@juicythedj750]

​​@@RoofLight00a potentiometer only has 3 pins... It could have a "stepped" feeling by adding indents in the moving shaft, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a continuous and less precise control. In the Behringer I'm counting 16 pins for some of the rotary controls so they are in fact 16-position rotary switches, not cheap pots. Maybe not all of them - hard to tell with the video.

[@ClarenceJrRoss]

Well well well! I didn’t think it would sound this good 👍🏽

[@guterton]

I feel the same way, was a big surprise

[@kidam2448]

Merci beaucoup!!

[@spenzasequenza]

Jetz hesch denu scho?!

[@guterton]

Jep :) schnälle Finger gha..

[@benjamon4922]

Geile Video, geile Sound! Guet gmacht 💪! Bisch zfride mit dem Teil?

[@NURREDIN]

I like Behringer's engineering,and I have several of their products all of which stopped working.. I wish they would manufacture their products in Germany,even if they have to raise the price. It's really annoying when you're working on a project and their equipment just quits working. WHERE is this unit manufactured? If it's China,it's a "no go" no matter how good it sounds when it's new.

[@bobdobalina4044]

Which unit?

[@iloveACID]

Servaral? Which ones have stopped working 3 to 5 pieces ? Was that in warranty time. Did you have good customer support . And what was the issue with product. This is interesting 🤔

[@NURREDIN]

@@iloveACID Sorry it took so long to reply.Been busy on my 9-5! The units are The composer PRO-XL MDX2600 AND THE Multicom PRO XL MDX 4600. They both sound great, but both units had power supply issues.

[@iloveACID]

@@NURREDIN no worries 👍 so older gear. There new stuff seems much better quality .

[@fejneerg]

I'm just here for the vocoder solo

[@frankensteindrumco.1927]

No diode tho.

[@christopherpederson1021]

compressor sounds good

[@midimoog]

I can hear the difference but I'm not sure what it is. I'm an experienced user with lots of high end professional gear, but to be honest, I don't quite know what I'm doing when it comes to compression...

[@J.G.arspoetica]

💪GR8!

[@strolantic2930]

fantastique resultat

[@pirated8557]

Wow!

[@lennypichardoborrello6532]

sounds awesome, listening in a crappy speaker, great mix!

[@future_Victoryofficial]

On my list insert it into SSL Fusion tho

[@SchraderBeatz]

Geiles Video und Teil Gruß Abo ist da❤

[@EchoReverb6]

good music