Behringer MS-1 / MS-101 Sequencer and MIDI capabilities

Checking out the sequencer and MIDI capabilities of the Behringer MS-1 / MS-101 analog monophonic synthesizer. The Roland SH-101 clone (with some extras). Sharing the learning, discovery and exciting parts of exploring a new synthesizer.
Video contents
00:00 Intro
00:20 Sequencer
00:54 Recording - Pink Floyd On The Run
03:16 Saving
03:49 Recording - New Order Blue Monday
05:24 Real time playback features
05:30 Doubles, Triples, Quadruples
05:50 Swing
06:04 Hold step
06:14 Accents
06:18 Step mode
07:12 Recording - Giorgio Moroder I Feel Loved
07:50 Transposing
08:15 Recording - Giorgio Moroder Chase
09:24 Sequencer rate
10:10 Recording rests
10:24 Recording - Jean Michel Jarre Equinoxe 7
12:11 Sequencer problems
13:40 No Sequencer off from remote clock start
14:10 MIDI capabilities (or lack thereof)
14:30 Note and Velocity YES
14:40 No mod wheel MIDI data etc
15:20 MIDI Thru (Yes)
16:07 MIDI IN (from DAW)
17:00 Conclusion
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[@ranzee]

Update: It looks like firmware v1.12 may have addressed the sequencer issues. Here's the video of the firmware fix: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i32ziH6Fi9yDj9E

[@YoungNino2017]

there are so many explanations of how you get this stuff to have as little lag as possible in ableton, including buying expensive hardware to address the issue... what I find works is setting your track delay -50 ms or so... record a 4 quarter note 1 bar clip.... then compare that with what's coming out of the actual synth. With the track delay at Oms you hear they don't line up... - 50 ( for me with my current setup) they align.

[@kentaccordionist]

You forgot to mention that the ms101 although mono can transmit poly information when used as a master keyboard.

[@ranzee]

4 years ago I guess I did :)

[@ThinkerThunker]

Well, I came here to learn more about the B MS-101, but learned a ton about sequences. I for one would love to see more tutorials on exploring great sequenced songs. (Subscribed!)

[@ranzee]

Thanks mate - I plan to do more of these style of videos too :)

[@napoleonblownapart9043]

Can't wait to pick one of these up!

[@ranzee]

Hey everyone, hope you enjoy this video - I'm learning this synth, so bear with me - hopefully it helps you guys out too!

[@bradleysmith4409]

Very nice and helpful video, thanks~

[@ranzee]

Thanks Bradley!

[@Jameselcome_303]

very good , thanks for upload, thinking of buying one, keen to see you make tracks with it too

[@charlyjahn9942]

Dear Ranzee, verry nice viedeo about the sequenzer of the MS-101. I love the 101-Sound and the easy way, to creat the wonderfull old analog sounds. I own the Roland Boutique SH01 and happy abaout the nasty 101-Sounds in my setup. 😍 Best reguards from germany

[@ranzee]

Hey Charly! The SH-01A is really awesome - and as I own one, believe me - it is very close to being the real thing!

[@RetroPlus]

Nice studio, you have a great collection of synthesizers and keyboards.

[@ranzee]

Hey Retro!, thanks mate.

[@iqi616]

8:07 FINALLY! This is the fundamental feature missing from so many sequencers e.g in the Roland Boutique JP-08. _All_ sequencers should let you modulate the sequence from the keyboard. It's the feature from CV sequencing that has been most frequently omitted and it's those upstarts at Behringer who have got it right. I'm hoping the Crave implements this too.

[@ranzee]

Yeah, I love this feature. The original SH-101 you had to hold a button down - so this is much better!

[@888berg]

Great work Mate! Very much interested in seeing this play with the rack mounted Boog for CV shenanigans.

[@ranzee]

hey 888berg - thanks mate - I will endeavour to get this happening!

[@kenneth1688]

Great video on your synths

[@ranzee]

Thanks Kenneth!

[@sonorstudio1]

Nice clear presentation. Thumb’s Up

[@ranzee]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@program17]

Your videos are so wonderful. Greetings from Detroit. Thank y for sharing.

[@ranzee]

Thanks so much :)

[@program17]

@@ranzee do you know how I can edit a pattern on the sequencer? Like if I mess up on a note to go be I and edit it?

[@ranzee]

@@program17 The easiest way is to use the SynthTool software from their website. There's a video on my channel about it if you want to check that out first :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ3EqHSnidVgpMk

[@FoxyNirvana]

Great tutorial.... make it up as you go along is my life lol .... still not sure about this synth ... have pencilled it in ... awesome video 😎✌️

[@drummer4hire12]

At first, I thought mine was broke.....2 days later.....have not slept a wink. This thing is solid as the day is long.

[@UltanMashup]

Thank you!

[@truman90]

Thank you very much

[@idgasentertainment6409]

Man, finally someone to help me

[@jugglerjoe]

Great tutorial on the sequencer. I kept looking for this but instead everyone else is just demoing the sounds.

[@ranzee]

Thanks jugglerjoe :) Appreciate you taking the time to comment!

[@joomzb]

Great tutorial thanks! I've got the odyssey and struggling to work out the sequencer which is the same as sh-101. Is there a good manual or how did you find out the key combos etc? Edit: Just found there was a second English section of the manual at the end with more detailed sequencer instructions. All good now :)

[@ranzee]

Hi joomzb! glad to see you got it sorted :)

[@naoto7193]

great video! I wonder if you can use them knobs as a midi input too, for all my other vsts..?

[@ranzee]

Unfortunately not - they are similar to the original SH-101 in that regard.

[@nikofsberlin]

great video. enjoyed watching and actually the perfect video to watch, when you just unpacked it and don't know about all the features it got..... and are to lazy to read the manual :P Greets from Berlin

[@ranzee]

thanks Nikolai - glad you liked it.

[@andrewspencer4843]

Just ordered the MS101 to go along with my Hammond XK3C, Leslie and Yamaha S90es. Great vid. Never used proper synth sounds before so should be a good test for me!

[@ranzee]

Awesome stuff Andy - enjoy!

[@andrewspencer4843]

ranzee cheers! Just arrived so I’m having a go with it whilst watching your vid for help. Managed to do I Feel Love (of sorts). Wonder if I could do baba o’riley or won’t get fooled again?

[@andrewspencer4843]

@@ranzee I've just ordered the Behringer RD8 drum machine as well. Going on the quality of the MS101, this should be great. Have you had a go on one yet? Cheers

[@ranzee]

@@andrewspencer4843 that's great! I haven't got one - but I've seen them in action, I'm sure you'll enjoy it :)

[@drummer4hire12]

@9:29......How did you access the note value like that? I cannot seem to change the note values for the sequencer. I press play then press and hold pattern while turning the tempo dial. Nothing happens. I changed the clock source in the synth app.....still nothing. What am I doing wrong?

[@KoruSkillaTV]

Great Video! Any chance to turn the auto Arpeggiator of? It automatically starts as soon as I play mIdi notes from my ableton "external instrument" channel :(

[@ranzee]

Hi Koru, if the ARP button light is flashing it means you have it in HOLD mode. You just need to toggle it off. If you mean how it starts a sequencer automatically, that has to be done via a SYSEX message which I've explained on this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i32ziH6Fi9yDj9E

[@YomYestreen]

Really helpful video! I expected that none of the controls would transmit MIDI CC data but I was shocked to find that the pitch bender does not transmit MIDI. Deal breaker for me. Close but no cigar... Thanks for the informative video!

[@ranzee]

Fair enough, but just remember the original SH-101 didn't even have MIDI. So all the controls would be analog CV internally, and I'm thinking this wouldn't be easily translated over to the digital side with MIDI.

[@ultrajayme]

Guess there's always the VST 🙄 🤣

[@f_stop]

Great video, thanks. I was just wondering what that Ableton device was (next to Spectrum)?

[@ranzee]

Hi! That's Oscilloscope - a Max4Live device.

[@f_stop]

@ranzee Thanks. Can’t wait get my 101.

[@paulmssn]

Hi, your video is great. But I can't get the audio signal from ms01 on my software, how did you connect the synth ? Do you still need an external sound card or not?

[@ranzee]

Hi Paul, audio comes out of the AUDIO OUTPUT socket on the back. You can also plug some headphones into the HEADPHONES socket. Yes you will need an audio interface to hear it on your computer. Please check the manual that comes with the synth - this is all explained in the first few pages - it even gives you a diagram on how to connect it to your computer. If you don't have a printed copy of the manual - you can download one from their website: www.behringer.com//Categories/Behringer/Keyboards/Synthesizers-and-Samplers/MS-101-RD/p/P0D8D/Downloads

[@guillermorayabatanero6623]

Is it possible to program note sequences with "empty" steps, to make something rhythmic? (with no external midi tricks)

[@ranzee]

Hi Guillermo, yes you can enter "rests" instead of notes. Details are mentioned on this video, in the user manual and also you can use the sequencer editor on the Synth Tool app ... details on this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ3EqHSnidVgpMk&lc=UgyR4ADgQfGqTB9M03J4AaABAg

[@TJ-hs1qm]

Hi Ranzze, nice coincidence. We were debating latency compensation in Ableton Live over at sequencer.de when I saw you posting this video demoing exactly the issue at hand :) The magic wand that seems to yield the least amount of audio lag is described in this article here ask.audio/articles/synchronizing-hardware-in-ableton-live-9 Checkout the section about the External Instrument. Make sure the Monitor option on the armed audio track is set to Auto and NOT In. Midi jitter, is the one thing, though, you can't avoid, unless there's a tight external clock source (I guess u knew that). I noticed that jitter can cause the signal to be up to 3 ms either before or after the pulse. So for those longer recording sessions, I have the midi 2 Ableton Link app on my Ipad. I think, if I link Live running on my Desktop to this app on the ipad, the jitter becomes less obnoxious at least there isn't as much drifting away from the grid over a longer period of time. For shorter recordings (say 16 bars) I straight up quantise the audio recording (right click context menu), to a 1/4 grid, if I want to keep the shuffle of the original sequence. Anyway, thanks a lot for the demo, if seen horrible things done to the MS 101 :) but this was very musical and I learned some famous patterns. cheers

[@ranzee]

Hi M. Le biberon, thanks for linking me up to the discussion. I'm glad it isn't just me then :/ ... I should also mention that I've raised the issue with Behringer via a Support Ticket - so I will report back when I hear a response from them.

[@SpiltMilkable]

Great video , can you let me know how i set up the beatstep pro with this please im using ableton and can only get sound from the internal sequencer. Thanks.

[@ranzee]

Hi Tred, you can use it via MIDI DIN (so MIDI OUT BSP to MIDI IN MS-101) ... BTW: there's an update to this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i32ziH6Fi9yDj9E this shows that they fixed the sequencer and other issues.

[@jimshannononsounds]

Cool synth

[@ranzee]

Cheers Jim!

[@mooseteets]

at 10:12 you change the sequencer from 16th to 8ths what did you press to do that ? turning the tempo knob just changes the sequencer speed for me.

[@ranzee]

Hi Mooseteets, when you send the MS-101 an external clock - it behaves this way - well at least it was back when the video was recorded! Behringer have been mucking around with the firmware since I did this video - and I believe they've taken stuff away and then added it back again - I really need to do an update to this :)

[@sachamuki]

Hi Ranzee, is it possible to record a sequence or arp from the internal sequencer of MS 101 in Ableton using a external instrument in a midi channel ? Tried many settings on ableton midi preferences but everytime its creates loops, change the tempo or octaves or just BUG...... so i use the ableton arp etc .. its so easy to create a quick sequence on the internal sequencer of the Ms 101. your help will be fantastic.

[@ranzee]

it should be - make sure you have updated the MS-101 firmware (as there were some essential sequencer fixes in the latest firmware). We could try this out on the live stream on Saturdays 2PM UTC - I'll flag this comment as a Q&A for the stream.

[@sachamuki]

@@ranzee did you try ? cant see it

[@jamesrdelaney]

Hi.. can you recall a sequence from midi? Ie for recalling different sequences when moving from one song to another in a live set?

[@ranzee]

No, you have to use the buttons.

[@nelsoncolereis4058]

Hi Ranzee, do you know of a way to turn local off on the MS-1? When I have midi in and out connected to my daw, the local control on the synth causes a double trigger. (from synth and from Ableton). Couldn't find it in the manual. Thanks!

[@ranzee]

Isn't it available on the SynthTool?

[@frigoverkehr9445]

@@ranzee yes!

[@myriaddsystems]

I love love the classic baselines G Mororder and New Order

[@ranzee]

it was fun doing this too :)

[@ydp.archive929]

Hi! would you mind if I ask how can I change note value when seuqencer is synced external midi clock on MS1? on the manual, it says that I can change note value by adjusting tempo know while pressing Patter button and also yellow indicator would show current note value. but i can't see yellow led when my sync is on Internal Clock but also External midi clock. still I can change value with same method on Internal Clock but not external midi clock

[@ranzee]

Hi - something you could perhaps ask the manufacturer - I've not tried it :)

[@christopherrusch]

hello! amazing video! what delay were you using?

[@ranzee]

Built-in Ableton Delay from the "audio effects" section.

[@marcoagius6926]

hi! can you do these sequences on the roland gaia too? i think the gaia has a phrase recorder not a sequencer. are they similar? thanks

[@ranzee]

I don't know, sorry.

[@jeffgraham4974]

The start timing in ableton has always been a problem for me is there any way of actually calculating the delay setting for a midi clip like you can in logic so that the audio will record at the correct timing ?

[@ranzee]

Hey Jeff, there's a tonne of things it could be and you could try. Take a look over on Ableton's forums and check out the latency threads - there's some control and settings you can tinker with. Off the top of my head it is based on the track under the MIDI side. If you need more help about this, we can raise this as a topic on the live stream - let me know.

[@jeffgraham4974]

Ok thanks for that, I’ve got the same issue with my ms where the sequencer sync start is delayed when started via ableton. A midi clip from ableton seems to be ok if you turn sync off in the midi settings

[@FKU7777]

Hi Ranzee/ I'm tryng to sequence the MS-101 externally from Ableton 10 live as I'm fed up with the step limit within the MS-101. I can play notes from Ableton when I audition them, so I have a good MIDI connection and the channels are matched, but when I run Ableton there are no MS-101 notes played. Basically i want the 101 to playnotes from the patterns in the Ableton sequencer. Appreciate any pointers! cheers

[@FKU7777]

Update: I can get it to play now, after messing with synth tool. I have another issue now but think this is a midi bug 😫

[@ranzee]

Firmware up to date?

[@srivatsanb4839]

Hey! Nice video.. I have a question. Do you know how you could set the tempo of the ARP function to the host bpm? I try to do it by tweaking the tempo knob using my ear but it's not perfect to bpm's like 93 or 78 or other odd bpm's. Let me know if you know how to. Thanks

[@ranzee]

Hi ! You can set the clock source to external using the SynthTool app - download is on the MS-1 page on the Behringer website. Simply connect up your MS-1 via USB to your computer and use the App to make the change.

[@srivatsan01]

i tried and had no luck with it. is there any forum or page where i can read about it? also i noticed that i cant feed in my midi input to the MS101. how did you manage to do it? thanks

[@ranzee]

@@srivatsan01 I have a Patreon where I can offer support (link in the video description). However, you may want to check you have installed the latest firmware, downloaded the latest version of SynthTool from Behringer.

[@cedricdesbans6060]

Great video!! Thanks!! But do you know how to turn keyb local off please?

[@ranzee]

Have you checked in the SynthTool? The latest version may have this - if not, you could put in for a feature request. (I'm not in a position to check sorry)

[@elissitdesign]

I was able to mitigate some of the delay by going to Preferences > Audio tab > Driver Error Compensation and putting in the same number that's seen in output latency. If "overall latency" says 5.6ms I put -5.6 That locks it in.

[@elissitdesign]

I really hope they add MIDI CCs to the new analog Behringer line; Neutron, Model-D, MS-1, etc. This would make it much better for performance and recording altogether.

[@ranzee]

Is there something specific you'd like me to ask the devs? I have a direct line of contact with them.

[@SuckeroftheYear]

how did you connect your ms-1 with midi or just with usb ? sorry im a noob :) is it poaaible to get midi out from the ms- 1 ?

[@SuckeroftheYear]

it wont work with mine...i wann just use the synth in abelton without any tool tried everything ecept a midi cable to usb

[@iqi616]

My favourite sequences are on Vangelis' Spiral album.

[@ranzee]

Yes, there are some amazing sequences on that album, agreed!

[@Strages_Powers]

nice video mate, do you know how to do program changes from ableton? I cant find any info on midi. is it possible?

[@ranzee]

There is no patch storage on the MS-1 - therefore you can't do program changes. If you mean sequence pattern changes - that feature isn't implemented.

[@Strages_Powers]

@@ranzee thanks mate, yeah I worked it out

[@bbdeng8689]

Thank you but can you please show us more from the beginning setting in Ableton?

[@ranzee]

Hi BB Deng, not sure what you're after specifically ...

[@TooSlowTube]

14:06 MIDI capabilities.

[@protobaby1]

once you do a pattern can u make it shorter i test and it can be made longer but how i can delete a step ?

[@ranzee]

the more complex editing is done via their SynthTool software.

[@carlitoscalmer8732]

I think The delay is normal ableton to hardware latency. Put the monitor mode in „off“ instead „in or auto“ and it should be gone. I had the same with other hardware, thats why im monitoring now directly thru my rme interface and totalmix and record everything in off. Just a Bit sad that you cant monitor with effects on the tracks

[@ranzee]

There has been updates since this video, so the latency issue has been addressed.

[@marcogegenheimer8909]

Hey man! Great stuff. I tried to use the shift key just as u do at min 6 but id doesn't do anything. Am I doing anything wrong. Nothing happens when i hold down SHIFT and turn the glide wheel!! :(

[@ranzee]

Behringer have been mucking around with the firmware - so it could be something they've removed? I need to update mine and check what they've done - video to come!

[@marcogegenheimer8909]

@@ranzee started working all of a sudden. Thank you!

[@cbass909]

Hye What's exactly the notes to played directly on Keyboard to have the Jean Michel Jarre sequence? Thanks guys

[@ranzee]

they are just C notes played up an octave and down.

[@cbass909]

@@ranzee Ok thanks a lot

[@bradleopard5515]

could you show me if you can use the midi function for sounds such as organs and strings etc.??

[@bradleopard5515]

All i hear is one sound/effect used in different ways. This may be a stupid question as I am new to midi but can you get different sounds, organs, horns, strings etc.

[@ranzee]

Hi. This is an analog mono synthesizer. The sounds are generated from it are using subtractive synthesis - and it isn't polyphonic. If you want to get other sounds like organs, horns, strings etc - you would need to connect this up to a DAW and use a virtual instrument plugin. This makes the MS-1 a MIDI controller. The audio then wouldn't be coming from the device - instead from inside your computer.

[@Samson_ktn]

Hey ! thanks for the video! I just got my MS 1 but the MIDI IN doesn't work ... I update the firmware but nothing ...

[@ranzee]

Support ticket to Behringer is probably your best option here.

[@program17]

Hello. How do you change the sequence from 1/8 to 1/16th? Mine won't change when I move the tempo knob while hooked up usb midi. When I turn the tempo / gate length knob it has no effect.

[@ranzee]

Hi Program 17, Behringer took that feature out of some firmwares. They put it back again on their latest firmware, so all you need to do is update your MS-1/MS-101.

[@program17]

@@ranzee hello. it says I have the latest firmware. Do I have to set it to AUto in the synth tool to have it work with straight midi?

[@ranzee]

@@program17 well that's puzzling! I've got it to work when it receives an external MIDI clock (in the video it was receiving clock and note MIDI from Ableton Live). Perhaps that is something to do with it? I'm sure we can get to the bottom of this!

[@program17]

@@ranzee I'm going to just try with regular MIDI. I will let you know how it goes

[@d.b.cooper5775]

Just got mine, curious as to why the arp divisions reset back to 16ths every time i start stop my DAW. Something im missing or something they need to fix.

[@ranzee]

Hi Caine, the firmware is a bit basic - and the microprocessor they put in this is quite simple with little room for complex algorithms. Welcome to the land of cheap :) .... Having said that - have you made sure it is up-to-date firmware using the Synthtool? Download it from their website - there's a video on my channel if you need links etc: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ3EqHSnidVgpMk

[@d.b.cooper5775]

@@ranzee Yeah maybe I'm expecting a little to much. As for the sound though, it's sounds amazing. Slight 3k whine on mine but nothing a little eq doesn't fix. Edit, whine was from usb switching to midi fixed that.

[@troublesomecorsair]

Aw darn. Just the sequencer. The Roland Boutiques send midi cc with their controls but none of the Behringers do.

[@ranzee]

there maybe some movement here in the future - but perhaps not for the MS-1

[@sandorkis8813]

Hi! Is it possible to hard sync lfo to a Daw's midi clock?

[@ranzee]

Hey, I don't think it is possible without using another external module, which you could do via CV. The synth features are relatively close to the original.

[@keithtckr5]

@@ranzee WHAT SHOULD WE BUY TO MAKE THE MS-1 ARP SYNCH TO CUBASE

[@DJJUANG2000]

When I press pattern + turn tempo knob, nothing happens. Can anyone help"

[@therealdoron]

I see it always starts to play from the last place it stopped, this is so frustrating.. it should always start at the begining of the pattern!!! if you know a fix for that please let me know..

[@ranzee]

Have you checked into the SynthTribe tool? Download it from the Behringer website. There's a few settings in there that might get you what you want.

[@ochentronix3293]

HI.. YOUR VIDEO IS EXTRAORDINARY ... MY QUERY IS ... AS I SEE YOU OCCUPY IT WITH ABLETON .. THEN .... CAN YOU USE IT WITH ANY VST?

[@ranzee]

Sure - but it isn't the best for a midi controller

[@clocklife]

Do you happen to know if this guy can send polyphonic midi from the keyboard?

[@ranzee]

i believe it does!

[@clocklife]

@@ranzee Thanks so much, I'm gonna give it a shot!

[@sebastianotrovesi2650]

🙏❤

[@keemosabey8501]

WHERE IS THE MIDI CC IMPLEMENTATION CHART FOR THE MS-101 ???

[@ranzee]

Ask Behringer :)

[@dzungalas]

I like your video,but it is hard to see sometimes which button u press cos your hads cover the wiew,otherwise realy good video.thank u.

[@ranzee]

thanks for the feedback - I actually say the button combinations also - so the audio is part of the instruction.

[@dzungalas]

ok : )

[@travisdickens5618]

I wish I had bought the red one

[@Eisenbahnpatrouille]

Never too late for a 2nd 101 :)

[@mikemelon]

does it do slides?

[@ranzee]

Hi Mike, yes - when you tie the steps it slides.

[@headfullofsnow2001]

Do you know if there's a midi cc message for a slide?

[@cristiandanielvinoduran4174]

I bought one today I really dont know how to usé it, so I think I am going to get rid of it, dont even know how properly with this

[@ranzee]

What are you having trouble with? The sound generation is a copy of the original SH-101 - so this should be fairly straight forward. However, I do think they could have done a much better job with the sequencer :)

[@cristiandanielvinoduran4174]

@@ranzee hey thank you forma answer well my main problem now is When I récord it plugged directly to my focusrite 2i2 3rd generation it makes a weird noise like a pink noise something like that, and another problem is Midi clock usb sync I dont have a drum machine so I sync it with my daw waveform 11 and it works properlly for about a minute then it gets out of tempo

[@cristiandanielvinoduran4174]

Sorry for my English I am out of practice and I am frontera Bolivia so my main language is Español Jejejej saludos y gracias por responder

[@ranzee]

@@cristiandanielvinoduran4174 I would log a support request with Behringer

[@2f126]

if only you could access the sequencer without having to stop and start the clock :/ it would be incredible!

[@ranzee]

So you mean changing the sequence settings whilst the sequence is running? There are some performance options whilst the sequence is playing - like glide, swing, double/triple/quadruple step, mute step, transpose ...

[@2f126]

@@ranzee i mean (with the clock running) enter notes, program a sequence, and it will play it back i guess the term would be "programming on the fly" bzzzzzz