“And as soon as I heard it, I ordered a second one!” Love it!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
😄
@TedBrownMedia Жыл бұрын
@@PeteMidi as soon as they announced the td3mo i put my name on the list 3 months after buy the td3
@martinkaiser52634 жыл бұрын
I found a very simple solution for creating lovely Arps with the TD-3. If you use Logic Pro you can connect the TD-3 as a "External Instrument" inside Logic. Then set in the TD-3 the clock "internal". Now you can load in Logic a MIDIFX ( i use XFER Cthulhu) in the TD-3 instrument. And you can play beautiful Arps with the TD-3. If there is interest in this solution i will try to make a video (never did one before) Sorry Pete dont want to hijack your thread
@efoildelights46624 жыл бұрын
not excactly the same thing here. but yes you can do that and use max4live mono sequencer for example in ableton
@a.a4864 жыл бұрын
hello Martin . do the video please :)
@joeschlicht2 жыл бұрын
I don't have the TD3 yet (ordering soon), but I use Logic and am interested in this solution, please. A video would be great!
@martinkaiser52632 жыл бұрын
@@joeschlicht here you go kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJfElJiOabRgqsU
@joeschlicht2 жыл бұрын
@@martinkaiser5263 Thanks!
@DjDarkD4 жыл бұрын
Of course someone from Germany came up with the solution! You guys breathe acid technology.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😄
@pintfetzer34614 жыл бұрын
One thing that Germans can be proud of, technoooo:)
@pintfetzer34614 жыл бұрын
Bin auch deutscher weisste:) Und nachdem der deutsche dank dem Österreicher genug an Identität und Stolz verloren hat, is Techno definitiv wat, worauf ich stolz bin:)
@KRAFTWERK2K64 жыл бұрын
TRANCE..... AND ACID!
@pintfetzer34614 жыл бұрын
@Imorelle was?
@GruntUltra4 жыл бұрын
Never seen this channel before - clicked the link, jammed the arpeggiator while head-banging in my desk chair, clicked LIKE, clicked SUBSCRIBE. Done
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the great feedback! 😄
@matthiasfeigl29114 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@ThatSockmonkey3 ай бұрын
Here I am the same way, 4 years later
@loslosbaby3 жыл бұрын
This exceeded my expectations about what was possible! Great, simple setup, and deft, and subtle DJ'ing on it...NICE!
@PeteMidi3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! 😊
@freddyluvless10634 жыл бұрын
Lovely! Reminiscent of Hardfloor sounds
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@unused00112 жыл бұрын
Mine is coming today, I am very glad I watched this, thanks 👍
@PeteMidi2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice feedback! 😊
@brianwilliams3621 Жыл бұрын
Hi Pete, I came across this video whilst searching for TD-3. Really rather good and has inspired me to use the arpigiator on my Arturia Keystep to drive my TD-3. It's an easy function to use, so hopefully the tunrs wibe almost as satisfying as yours. Brian
@PeteMidi Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice feedback! 😊
@ianmacauley49964 жыл бұрын
Really Brilliant, Pete. Well Done! Entertaining talk-through, enjoyable video action - and Mesmerizing Arpeggios! Floated straight back to TD Phaedra & Rubycon, thru late 90s trance, and landed somewhere leftfield of today. You're very inspiring, Mate! Liked & subbed. .... Time to stretch my keystep ... Vielen dank und beste grüße aus Warschau!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the great feedback! 😊
@ianmacauley49964 жыл бұрын
@@PeteMidi You deserve every word. You're a great musician 😊
@rickc21024 жыл бұрын
After that jam, it's time to listen to some tangerines dreaming.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
😄👍
@josephwright59213 жыл бұрын
The dream is always, like love on a real train
@ASH-ou4cg4 жыл бұрын
GREAT melodies! You really made these boxes sound musical and not just 'bleepy noises'. Great job!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 😊
@Lethoscorpia4 жыл бұрын
Awesome work, technically and musically
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@ewetoo4 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant idea, and what a beautiful result.
@seandunlevy52894 жыл бұрын
Great video. Right now I am converting SNES audio boards (64Kbytes of RAM but 16-bit samples are stored as 4-bit ADPCM) because they support upto 8 channels and the option of any combination of channels through the FIR filter so: dft([a(0), a(1), a(2), a(3), a(4), a(5), a(6), a(7)]) = [A(0), A(1), A(2), A(3), A(4), A(3)*, A(2)*, A(1)*] I think Nintendo give some examples: 7F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - echo 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 18 - Eliminates 4, 8, 12 and 16 kHz. 0C 2B 2B 2B 28 FF F8 F9 - Band-stop between 6 kHz and 8.5 kHz (-15 dB). Smooth Low-pass cut-off at 13 kHz (-18 dB). 01 02 04 08 10 20 40 80 - high-pass filter 00 00 00 40 00 28 00 FE - notch filter with 8KHz at it's centre 34 33 00 D9 E5 01 FC EB - Ripples at 11 kHz ~ 13 kHz, 15 kHz ~ 16 kHz. But what the researchers have not made plain is that the 8-bit values are signed. For what it's worth, the SNES has a seperate daughter-board for audio. It has 64Kbytes of it's own memory, an SPC700 processor running at 1.024MHz and powerful DMA. I need to look much further but it seems very likely that the 8 FIR filters represent not consecutive samples but rather 64 or 128 samples apart and so knowing this, the cunning programmer can update the FIR setting so that one effect merges into another without having to suspend play. AFAIK the boards cost $20 but programming would require either a system with multiple parallel ports (kind of unlikely) or someone better than me at USB 2.0 communications so that: www.raphnet.net/electronique/snes_apu/APU_Interface.png The address can be set & held (or more specifically, increased after every write) and the 8 (4 x 2-bit) data lines are sent serials (again set and hold). I'm damned sure I can get the thing working on a PC but it isn't much use if it isn't possible to make hundreds or thousands of them that are cheap and reliable. I would be interested to know if Pete Midi is old enough to remember SNES games. In fact, when I worked for Core Design, I wrote a Master System, Megadrive, PC, NES, Game Gear, Gameboy, MegaCD & 32X music/SFX driver but because we only ever did 2 SNES titles, it wasn't seen as worthwhile to produce a sound drive. I know that C64 chips are now worth a fortune but how many broken SNES's are lying around with perfectly fine sound cards? To TEST them, a parallel port solution is acceptable but as for converting ti USB, no idea.
@Syncopator4 жыл бұрын
If you'd like to crank it up a notch, try using odd-length sequences. Example: - create a bass line on your primary sequencer in 5/8 or 7/8. - create a modulating arpeggiator in 3/8, made up of intervals taken from an appropriate chord, transposed up an octave such as 12, 16, 19, 21, 24 steps, etc. - run both sequences at the same BPM, and so that note changes are in sync. - listen to both the original bass line plus the modulated line as a complex melody that will be in key against the bassline. - Profit! The resultant melody sequence will be either 15 or 21 notes in length (5 or 7 * 3). Sequence lengths that are prime numbers often work best, as ones that are not may repeat a little too often. I've gotten some amazing results-- even tried a bass sequence of 31 16th notes (31/16?) against a 3/16 & 5/16 modulation which can produce an interesting melody of up to 155 notes before it repeats (though finding a workable 31 note bassline can be a challenge). This is a composition technique first described by Joseph Schillinger in the 1930s.
@sndrcve4 жыл бұрын
Syncopator would love to see a video demonstrating this 🙂
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Yes, poly-metric variations can be nice...
@triggerwarning57624 жыл бұрын
No
@Subtronik Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Finally makes me interested in the TD-3.
@PeteMidi Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice feedback! 😊
@ObKling4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your videos, Pete. Clear, organized, and informed. Hope you keep them coming!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@THESYNTHBARD4 жыл бұрын
Great video Pete! Wow, Behringer really has a thing about over selling the arppegiation capabilities of their synths. They market the Pro 1 as having 3 patterns on their website. In reality it only has Up and Up/Down. Technically you can toggle it to OFF but, it seems cheap to consider that an arpeggiation mode.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Yes, the Behringer product descriptions are really Interesting... 😉
@lit20212 жыл бұрын
Well, Pro-1 is the recreation of the Sequential circuits Pro One, so of course it has only two modes. I have the Pro-1, but I rarely ever use the built in sequencer and arpeggiator, since I have that in the Keystep.
@giles30004 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a beautiful journey those chord changes take u on ! NICE
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@bobbymobetta3 жыл бұрын
I've had a RD-8 about 6 months and a TD-3 about 3 months. While I've had some pretty good success pulling badass sounds from the TD-3 with a canyon delay (though any delay will help it shine) and a phaser, your device sounds like exACTly what I WANT my TD-3 to sound like all the time. It's truly the missing circuit for the TD-3 I honestly think you could try and put together a standalone box as an add-on for 303's. Really appreciate all your videos man, you very much know how to nail down the particulars of a thing and speak to what matters.
@PeteMidi3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the great feedback! 😊
@oldbatwit51024 жыл бұрын
People on other channels twiddle knobs to make funny noises. You actually make music that is worth hearing.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@iqi6164 жыл бұрын
Great music - added to my "Musical Inspiration" playlist.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@PerfectlyNormalHumans10 ай бұрын
This is clever. I have experimented with a similar implementation that only requires a single TD3. Basically I create the patterns in the TD3 sequencer, then I record them as MIDI clips into Ableton. Then I use the MIDI scale filter to conform the pitches to a scale of my choosing. Then I can use the MIDI clips plus filter to control the TD3.
@PeteMidi9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@Uthelion4 жыл бұрын
Today i got my td-3. I am using the arturia keystep to control the td-3. The keystep also has a sequenz- and arpeggiator function. Works good for me and its a quick setup.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
👍
@nsns79932 жыл бұрын
Very interesting approach! Receiving my second TD-3 today can't wait to try out some weird hacks! Subbed!
@PeteMidi2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@lajosz14 жыл бұрын
It `s genius. __ The equipment is excellent, but .... much more important is the music that you create, that this music is ABSOLUTELY magical and works literally as moving to another state of consciousness. __ I completely flew away after a few minutes of listening. BRAVO.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Great that you like it, thank you so much! 😊
@steveclifford68934 жыл бұрын
Im dancing in my undergarments by the light of the moon reflecting off the Danube! I`m mesmerized , Pete you are the Pied Piper of Techno !!! Market it that add-on !!! I want one !
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
😄Thank you so much!
@onkelberra31664 жыл бұрын
I just love the sound you got goin here. I´d love to hear more of this! I am still waiting on my 2x TD-3´s :( (SE yellow)
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! 😊👍
@OHMR-bo5qz4 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff! Thank you for showing us how to achieve this hack. The sequence you created sounds great.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@Imetalman20002 жыл бұрын
Those trance progressions always slap on the TD-3. 🙌
@PeteMidi2 жыл бұрын
😊
@ajmagana11314 жыл бұрын
Didn’t build one, I uh just connected it via midi in from my Alessis andromeda or my darkstar and boom td-threpeggio. Also logic or ableton midi effects + arpeggiator etc etc
@pokerdealer20034 жыл бұрын
My old Roland mc505 with a td3 does some amazing arpeggios, I love the heavy slap. Great vid got a new sub.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! 😊
@ArcAudios774 жыл бұрын
The 505 Arp is very hard to beat in my opinion. Great Unit that I'm still using :) Cheers Guys Subbed
@BlueSunset22024 жыл бұрын
Der Wahnsinn, echt einfach geil, der sound erinnert mich ein wenig and Virus b/c arpeggios, nur einfach viel saftiger. Echt gut gemacht von dir !!!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Vielen Dank für das tolle Feedback! 😊
@aleszapletal4174 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing! Keep making great acid music ... Greetings from Czech republic
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! 😊
@thatbehringerguy4064 жыл бұрын
I do prefer the TD over the original. Obviously cost is a factor but having that stellar overdrive is such a gift.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
I also like the overdrive 👍
@steveedwards44952 жыл бұрын
Brilliant this. New favourite track.
@PeteMidi2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! 😊
@iosmusicman3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I nearly ordered one right at the start of the video as I am an aggregator addict. I have a Raspberry pi and am a software developer but don't have the time to fanny around to that extent. Nice jam. Thanks. Lee
@PeteMidi3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice feedback! 😊
@gowithgroove4 жыл бұрын
Damn that sounds good! Well done, sir.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@ManCalledMif3 жыл бұрын
mind expanding demo. beautiful sounds. so glad i bought two: a TD-3 and a TB-03. couldn't decide which was better so bought both
@PeteMidi3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the feedback!
@marcfaur4 жыл бұрын
Happy I discovered your channel!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice feedback!
@snares1874 жыл бұрын
Recently ordered a TD-3, after watching your vid now I want a second one. haha. Hearing the two combined and esp with that arp sound was ace. Love your solution to the Arp too, it sounds amazing :)
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@mrbrotherman4 жыл бұрын
A sound of a generation with a added twist , inspirational top notch Pete midi :)
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 😊
@boymatmat4 жыл бұрын
VERY NICE, nice performance and good explanation, GOOD JOB . I don’t have a Td-3 but I’m really thinking about getting one
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the nice feedback!
@aaronbarrett98943 жыл бұрын
You can do all of those things in synth tribe, it's your firm ware updater and it's got some other functionalities.. You can also load a library of patterns. It is a full interface that lets you control the nuances on the unit.. It's not perfect yet but it's not buggy and it's free.
@hovermotion4 жыл бұрын
So cool...these sounds bring back good times.......
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
😊
@Francois.de.Benedetti3 жыл бұрын
Super clear and informative, thanks Pete, greetings from Berlin !
@PeteMidi3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the nice feedback! 😊
@rawDIYman4 жыл бұрын
WHAT a GREAT DEMO!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@WakingPath2 жыл бұрын
Hi Pete! Great video and arps! I'm a longtime tb & clone owner. You've really taken it to the next level. Is your tutorial video for setting up the arpeggiator incoming any time soon? Maybe you could suggest other ways to achieve this (max for live perhaps?) Keep up the great work, I'm subbed and looking forward to more of your quality content & demos/jams! Super helpful in helping me decide which offering from Behringer is next on my shopping list. Thank you!
@clarenzlarka3 ай бұрын
That soundwd great. Im new to all this so i dont understand why you hooked up two but the result was good.
@PeteMidi3 ай бұрын
😊
@Zeal8084 жыл бұрын
I like that arp at 8:00! Cool set up
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@texacomann4 жыл бұрын
Dein Kanal gefällt mir! Deshalb thumbs up und weiter so Pete! Grüße kommen aus Germany's Odenwald....!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks - vielen Dank!
@H4NDCRAFTED4 жыл бұрын
One of the thing the Bassbot has over this, that generative patterns. Still sold mine , I prefer the sound of this.
@nate76454 жыл бұрын
love this jam!!! beautiful!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 😊
@foxholeartist4 жыл бұрын
As I am not a huge fan of acid itself, I must say that your video sounds way more tempting than original Behringer ones (and they are good at presenting their products tbh). Spacey and rich sound.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the great feedback!
@SourDiesel694 жыл бұрын
I’m getting my third TD3 in the mail today! I’ll probably get a fourth to sequence my 2600!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
😄👍
@SourDiesel694 жыл бұрын
Pete Midi I actually sent one back. It’s tough to come up with good sequences with three because of the quirks of the sequencer. I bought the MS1 instead
@disparity-bit4 жыл бұрын
I might have to order a second TD-3 as well. This is amazing work, Pete!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the feedback! 😊
@marcbrasse7474 жыл бұрын
"He's got crazy flipper fingers. Never tilts it all." (from Pinball Wizard by The Who)
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
😄
@8-BitHeart794 жыл бұрын
Great song! 😉
@matthewstein11104 жыл бұрын
I actually ended up keeping my 2nd TD-3 and couldn’t be happier!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@jonmaddison8 ай бұрын
Nice! Subscribed. I think I'll stick to external arps coming in over MIDI for now but I like the idea of the two variants of the same pattern. Have done similar with TD-3 + Crave. Didn't sounds as awesome as this though!
@PeteMidi8 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@aliendreammusic71713 жыл бұрын
I am.. mesmerised that is ! Thanks
@PeteMidi3 жыл бұрын
😄
@DjGrzywa6 ай бұрын
sounds beautiful❤
@PeteMidi6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@edwardbyard65404 жыл бұрын
My TD-3 just arrived. Time for some fun! 👍
4 жыл бұрын
id be sitting there for hours playing that great stuff thanks
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
😊
@foxholeartist4 жыл бұрын
You should post more of your music stuff. It's great
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
I will do my best! 😊
@thefoxfamily3414 жыл бұрын
Yes please do this
@8-BitHeart794 жыл бұрын
Pete Midi any links if you are on streaming services would be great to! 😁
@StaffanNilsson14 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing and inspiring. So glad I found your channel.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@AntAciieed4 жыл бұрын
In this time , the most precious sound in the universe is the 303, The 303 extends life. The 303 expands consciousness. The 303 is vital to tekno.
@Cyberphunk3034 жыл бұрын
He who controls the 303, controls the acid!
@UNSCPILOT2 жыл бұрын
Love the refrence, great comment, an a neat Synth too
@LouisSerieusement4 жыл бұрын
putting arp on 303 clones always yielded great results
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Fully agree!
@TsavosAlliance4 жыл бұрын
Now I'm tempted to buy one!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
😉
@stevecautious4 жыл бұрын
That's really great, and indeed mesmerising!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@ridgerider74022 жыл бұрын
Really like your sounds , you cracked it ☺
@PeteMidi2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! 😊
@filippoarlenghi62479 ай бұрын
Very human video in this field thank you
@nikolaynikolov23853 жыл бұрын
Nice sound thanks for the lesson!!!
@PeteMidi3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice feedback! 😊
@darrenlee19384 жыл бұрын
That is stunning!! Well Done
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@JN-vv3uf Жыл бұрын
extremely enjoyable! love it.
@PeteMidi Жыл бұрын
Great, many thanks! 😊
@AlkisT Жыл бұрын
I'm loving this. One of these days I should probably take my head out of my arse and actually use the fact I'm a programmer towards controlling my equipment...
@PeteMidi Жыл бұрын
😊
@a3c0i3d9092 ай бұрын
Mesmerising ❤️
@Screwhead4 жыл бұрын
Dude that Jam A is insane!
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
😊
@citizenofearth4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna buy 3 TD-3s ... :-D
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
😅
@adventureswithsteve29814 жыл бұрын
This Makes owning 2 TD-3's worth considering , maybe Behringer will fix the Appreciator , Awesome tunes :)
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the feedback! 😊
@stubrakon96833 жыл бұрын
More great work! Thanks. You make it look easy!!😀
@PeteMidi3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! 😊
@Emontop14 жыл бұрын
Great review and tutorial 👍👍👍👍😀🎛🔈
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😃
@zo1dberg3 жыл бұрын
It's like you've got that thing telling me a story.
@gapster772 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Hypnotic.
@PeteMidi2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@davidbrown86004 жыл бұрын
Truly wonderful. Sounds amazing. Thank you very much.
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the nice feedback! 😊
@jordanWAH3 жыл бұрын
My Bass Station II has an ACId function in the mixer or filter I think? But even though it cost about as much as both your TD-3's and PI together. (maybe a little more) I don't think I can do what you're doing here, it really sounds amazing! Brought me back to the '90s! great video! I guess Behringer is cheap in more ways than one!? lol!
@PeteMidi3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! 😊
@thepetlamb3 жыл бұрын
Nice sounds!
@PeteMidi3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@doralfasi908 ай бұрын
i cant find how to apply the arpegiator can someone explain me please?
@dianamiino7391 Жыл бұрын
By the way, this was a beautiful jam 💛
@PeteMidi Жыл бұрын
Many thanks! 😊
@mitchminimal69424 жыл бұрын
Excellent work! Yes mesmerizing... Thank you
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@swillm3ister4 жыл бұрын
Hello Pete, would it be possible for you to show a walkthrough of how to do this process of creating the arpeggiator, including the code?
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm just preparing the source code and tutorial...
Great stuff , I just got a td3 and would love to set up a psi like this . Great job
@PeteMidi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! More details about the setup in the next video...
@PsyGoaLover Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I am not a dj, producer, just a home guy who has been into spy/goa trance for the last 20 years or so. Love the TB-303, so just bought the TD-3 to play with. Your video here totally blew my mind as to what a couple TD-3's could do! I have to ask, you were using the blue TD-3 for a basic background line, then using the red one for the enhancements? Also, what is that little keyboard thing u were using to change keys, I assume on the red TD-3? I don't know much about this stuff, still learning, but ABSOLUTELY LOVE what u did in this video!!!
@PeteMidi Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 😊 In my arpeggiator approach one td-3 plays the basic pattern, the other, in principle plays the same but with different notes given by the little keyboard. The note transform is done by a python script but can also been done by blokas midihub or mozaic for ios or... I tried to explain this a bit in a successive video.
@Phoenix_1982_MD3 жыл бұрын
Geile mucke! Wo ein Wille ist, ist auch ein Weg :)