Behringer Pro-VS mini: final notes
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MPC ONE: my three reasons + jam
11:43
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@peterfuzz3887
@peterfuzz3887 3 сағат бұрын
ahah, in fact Goliath is the Pro-800 !
@mark35mi
@mark35mi 3 күн бұрын
Kindred spirit. LOVE Stereo spread! A reason for loving the Bi=naural of the Super 6 etc... (tho out of my budget). Thanks for the video! As I am not a Reason guy... what might you recommend that offers Binaural/Great Stereo processing? Thanks! Subscribed!
@RaquelFoster
@RaquelFoster 10 күн бұрын
Really surprised to hear someone say the NDLR has a good user interface, because the Conductive MRCC has by far the worst UX of any MIDI device I've ever used. From the random menu structure to the LEDs that are 10X too bright and bleed into each other to the inability of the developer to debounce the encoder, it's just terrible. It's funny that their only other product is an arp - because the arp on my MRCC would actually crash the MRCC. And you definitely couldn't leave it on because it would eventually lock up, and even if it didn't the screen would burn in because any traffic (including clock) keeps the screensaver from working.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 8 күн бұрын
I must admit that this statement only refers to the quick jam mode. If you go deeper into editing the small display becomes burdensome. Just from the features the MRCC looks quite good...
@EaselCat
@EaselCat 10 күн бұрын
what the hell is wrong with your audio
@tappy72
@tappy72 11 күн бұрын
nice jam
@durmstrang.techno
@durmstrang.techno 12 күн бұрын
@AdamsOlympia
@AdamsOlympia 13 күн бұрын
First time I've seen the MP controller pop up in a video when I wasn't specifically looking or it. I'm surprised it's not more popular; It looks incredible and perfect for hybrid setups.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 12 күн бұрын
Yes, absolutely!
@Lord_UND_Himself
@Lord_UND_Himself 17 күн бұрын
I completely agree with you dude. Do you really think they’ll be able to add something like voice spreading in a firmware update? I might be wrong, but I think I read that the Steampipe was a mono signal path and stereo after the effect. I think the Minilogue XD works a similar way
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 17 күн бұрын
I assume that the complete signal path before the DAC is digital, so in principle a program that can be changed ... The Minilogue XD is different, it has an analog filter that is mono.
@AlfredoEsqueda
@AlfredoEsqueda 18 күн бұрын
sounds very digital
@djHarlanD
@djHarlanD 18 күн бұрын
🤩🪃💛🖤🏴‍☠️
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 18 күн бұрын
😊
@barryjefferies3201
@barryjefferies3201 19 күн бұрын
HeY There Pete My man 👨 ❤🎉😊... Absolutely L❤VE Your Show and Since going Dawless 5 years ago all my FaVe Synths were bought after your Demonstrations and Classic JaMs. ❤❤🎉... i Just had the new Behringer K2 MK2 Delivered as the demo sounded Great and it had the New additions such as the VCO FM And SYNC to name a few and it does sound 🔊 good, I Do however imo..😊.... disagree with the notion that it's basically a Clone to the MS20 ❤❤🎉😊... As I've had the,, mini :" for 5 years now and think 🤔 the MS. Is Much Warmer , Beefier and has much more Personality than the K2 ,,,, That being said, ... i really dont mind as id prefer a slightly different sound 🔊 to complement the mini bar 😊🎉 Im Wondering if you will be doing a Video 📹 on the New K2 M2 , as id Love to Hear Your Thoughts on the Subject 🎉🎉 All the best Pete , and have a great Christmas 🤶 and Happy 😊, Healthy New year ❤❤🎉😊jaffa Jenkins Dawless jams 😊
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 18 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot for the great feedback! 😊 My focus has shifted a bit towards polyphonic synths, but I still love by mono babies 😉 However, I did not take the update to the K2 mk2 ...
@barryjefferies3201
@barryjefferies3201 18 күн бұрын
@PeteMidi AAaaaH Hah.....PoLY .... I MuST InVesTegAte..... Thanks for your reply Pete. .... And have A Happy 😊 and Healthy New year....jaffa Jenkins Dawless jams..
@s1Lash-s1Lash
@s1Lash-s1Lash 19 күн бұрын
which effects/pedals are you using for reaching this good stereo sounds?
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 18 күн бұрын
For this jam I used the internal FX of a Behriger XR18 mixer, a combinig a triple delay and a reverb (lexicon emulation).
@DorkyThorpy
@DorkyThorpy 19 күн бұрын
Thanks man I enjoyed the sounds at the end
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 18 күн бұрын
😊
@EnricoCosimi
@EnricoCosimi 19 күн бұрын
Erica's Steampipe is .ensMkI; you are comparing SteamPipe 2 MkII with the hw version from MkI. There's no spread in MkI as there's no spread in hw version...
@rickhopkinson
@rickhopkinson 19 күн бұрын
Cool video 👌
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 18 күн бұрын
😊
@PaulHofreiter
@PaulHofreiter 20 күн бұрын
I was originally waiting for the desktop version too but I waited too long and Thomann lowered the keyboard price to $766 bucks…getting an MPE controller with the synth for that price was a no brainer. So now my previous midi controller is sitting unused. I was using a Panorama T6 and I liked it but I like the feel of the UBXA way more. I’m surprised so many people didn’t like the keyboard actually - unless they were not expecting synth action, pianists wanting weight or something, I don’t see anything to complain about at all. It feels GREAT.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 20 күн бұрын
I can understand, in my case it was just the lack of space for another keyboard...
@xisotopex
@xisotopex 21 күн бұрын
how does this compare, soundwise, to the deepmind?
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 20 күн бұрын
Sorry, I cannot say, I never had the deepmind...
@xisotopex
@xisotopex 20 күн бұрын
@@PeteMidi have you had or tried any of the virtual analogs, like the modal cobalt? how does this compare?
@weave_of_k
@weave_of_k 21 күн бұрын
Can you not just use an external reverb with true reverb?
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 20 күн бұрын
The problem is not the internal reverb, all voices already sit on (stereo) center position before going into the reverb...
@ColeDano
@ColeDano 21 күн бұрын
I kept thinking when I heard the demos that something is missing, you’re right it’s the stereo spread. Your demo here shows the impact it makes.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! 😊
@ColeDano
@ColeDano 3 күн бұрын
@@PeteMidi Girts just said they will be adding the voice spread back as a firmware update in a recent video. The funny thing is people with the module were complaining to the dev that it sucked. Such is synth life.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi Күн бұрын
😊
@Greyson_ketchabrick_617
@Greyson_ketchabrick_617 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for bringing this point up. For what I want to use it for primarily I don’t feel like will be as negatively effected (I’m thinking more karplus plucking type sounds), but for the more wind-inspired sounds I can see how the stereo spread would be essential in an ensemble type of effect. Hopefully this will put it on their radar and they will be able to address it with a software patch/firmware. I still am strongly considering purchasing the Steampipe, but this is helpful to know. Thanks!
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 21 күн бұрын
Great, thanks for the feedback! 😊 I think the sound is already excellent without stereo spread, but as you said, for some sounds the distribution of voices makes up the ultimate ensemble. It's a pure software issue, I think there is a good chance that this feature will be added...
@MrRakken
@MrRakken 22 күн бұрын
OMG this is what I'm looking for. Thanks.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 21 күн бұрын
😊
@itsJoel59
@itsJoel59 22 күн бұрын
Have you had any experience with the latest firmware Pete? 🙂
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 21 күн бұрын
Hi, unfortunately I did not find the time to check it...
@CaidicusProductions
@CaidicusProductions 22 күн бұрын
Couldn't stereo spread be achieved by some sort of post processing, say in a DAW or via a pedal of some sort?
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 21 күн бұрын
Difficult if not impossible for polyphonic sounds. You would have to separate the different voices in the DAW to get them on different tracks for individual panning. To my knowledge there is no viable solution …
@marcbrasse747
@marcbrasse747 22 күн бұрын
Understandable conclusion. I also find real stereo spread very important while using MPE because it creates a great ensemble effect, identifying all the subtile expressive details much more clearly. It’s like sitting in the middle of an orchestra section.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 22 күн бұрын
I fully agree 👍
@coco805
@coco805 22 күн бұрын
Dude if you don't want it just don't buy it. Why you gotta dump on a cool new module? Just don't buy it!
@davinsosa1438
@davinsosa1438 22 күн бұрын
You should relax, bro. All he said is “I have a slight preference for the software version”. He’s not dumping on anything 🤣
@coco805
@coco805 22 күн бұрын
@ the video is titled why I cancelled my order. That's pretty dumpy. But whatever gets clicks I guess...
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 22 күн бұрын
@coco805 Hey, stay calm, I even say that I will buy this synth, if stereo voice spread will be implemented, which in principle should not be problem at all. Because it does not become clear from the specification and from the loopop video (which has got a few clicks more …) I feel that the information about this missing feature could be relevant for a few people. Yes, for me the conclusion was to cancel my order after I realized that the “SPREAD” parameter of the hardware actually means something different , but for other people this may be different.
@devawer
@devawer 22 күн бұрын
Because silence is always the enemy of progress.
@TooSlowTube
@TooSlowTube 22 күн бұрын
Too many synth "reviews" just focus on the positive, then you get one and immediately spot a limitation that bothers you, that none of them mentioned. If someone watches this and doesn't mind about the limitation, they'll still buy it. If they buy it not knowing and are disappointed, how does that help the manufacturer, in the long term? It's far better to bring it to their attention. The manufacturer can decide for themselves whether to change it, but when it's just a change in software, like this, they clearly could.
@vinylarchaeologist
@vinylarchaeologist 22 күн бұрын
Thanks, Obama (2:38)
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 22 күн бұрын
😅
@4CloudySky
@4CloudySky 23 күн бұрын
Unfortunately it is a common problem even in vst world. Especially if you want to spread it by pitch.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 22 күн бұрын
Yes, absolutely. Also in MPE implementations you rarely find the possibility to control individual voice panning (e.g. by vertical or horizontal slide). It seems that developers often overlook that humans have two ears 😊
@4CloudySky
@4CloudySky 22 күн бұрын
@@PeteMidi hehehe, I guess they like this cat on the video, lol. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5yoY4adnJ2bf5osi=qZFLpkVKt6j6Xrh5
@4CloudySky
@4CloudySky 22 күн бұрын
BTW, you should definitely try Plasmonic. It has everything done right in terms of constructing a virtual instrument.
@Heavens_Dome
@Heavens_Dome 23 күн бұрын
THANKS!!!!we wait
@samprock
@samprock 23 күн бұрын
That sucks, thanks for sharing Pete! Stereosness is important, even flagship synth may not do much. How to get it to plug under Ableton? Beautiful playing, mate!
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 23 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 23 күн бұрын
Yeah - don’t order * anything * off the back of a synthfluencer/synth mafia/hypebeast video … ! ☺️ Great, useful info - thank you! Hardware VSTs really have to bring something extra (and certainly not * less *) to justify themselves … !
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 23 күн бұрын
😄Thanks for the feedback!
@fumarolas
@fumarolas 23 күн бұрын
Oh I'm glad someone else noticed the stereo spread omission! It's such an important feature of the original ensemble and I also decided to stick to the software version because of that (and lack of audio over usb). It's a real shame. Hopefully stereo voice spread is something they can still implement in the future. Do you know if there's a way to make the Steampipe Reaktor Ensemble MPE? I recommend mapping subtle randomness with Expression Control, it brings even more character
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 23 күн бұрын
Yes, I also hope they will include stereo voice spread with an update. So far I did not find an easy way to integrate MPE into an existing Reaktor ensemble. I guess there are solutions, but not straight forward as far as I can see …
@DankePlace
@DankePlace 23 күн бұрын
Personally I don't think it's a very good synth, not in the traditional sense, it's good sounding, just something that I would ever use, and that's why I shy away from the Osmose, the engine.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 23 күн бұрын
I think it’s a good synth because it shows a really interesting approach with a nice user interface and great sounds at the end. I also don’t like the osmose sound engine because in my opinion it’s not really accessible, I do not see an intuitive way to create sounds.
@DankePlace
@DankePlace 23 күн бұрын
@@PeteMidi oh the Osmose is the opposite of what the Steampipe can do, ie the hands on ability to changes in real time, rather than try to use a UI that is almost impossible to use on the Osmose. Just a synth that I doubt I would personally use.
@coco805
@coco805 22 күн бұрын
@@DankePlace then like just don't buy it?? I think it sounds awesome and unique, but it's okay if it's not for you. Just annoys me to see someone spend so much effort to make a vid dissing a module, you've no idea how much goes into a module to just dump on it cause it doesn't have a specific feature you want.
@DankePlace
@DankePlace 22 күн бұрын
@@coco805 I never made a vid, I am not dissing it, no idea why you're complaining about my post when it's an opinion. Nor do I care.
@guiom77
@guiom77 23 күн бұрын
Hello Pete ‼️💥🎹 I wish you a good weekend ‼️
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 23 күн бұрын
😊
@alogghe
@alogghe 23 күн бұрын
Very useful warning, thank you. I was also quite close to purchasing but decided that I should rather spend some more quality time with software versions and my faderfox.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! 😊
@errorkit
@errorkit 25 күн бұрын
too bad it's mono
@barryjefferies3201
@barryjefferies3201 26 күн бұрын
Can Always Rely on Good old Pete to give you just what you wanna Hear when Researching a Synth ❤❤🎉😊.. Thanks Bro..jaffa Jenkins jams 😊
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 25 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the great feedback! 😊
@schbeidettim5690
@schbeidettim5690 27 күн бұрын
That was great.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 27 күн бұрын
Many thanks! 😊
@petrokemikal
@petrokemikal 27 күн бұрын
The behringer prophet 800 isnt cheap its just normal.. The synth world is full to the brim of ripoff products.. And I mean full !!! That prophet 5 wouldnt cost 1/5th of what they are making on it... Not talking about quality or sound mind you... The prophet is amazing.. But its vastly overpriced, along with just about every other synth/drum machine/speakers/ soundcard you name it... All a market ungoverned and allowed to set whatever prices they feel like setting.. As long as every other product is expensive then nobody thinks any different.. Then products come along like behringers latest synths, and people think how do they make them so cheap !! Well I guess your on the path to figuring that one out arent you.. Rember this, behringer are makig money on there synths, there a buisness, there not making them for free or aiming for low margins.. There just setting reasonable fair prices on them.. Everybody else isnt..
@Kung_Fu_Jesus
@Kung_Fu_Jesus Ай бұрын
Could you let us know what was constituting the sequence at the end, I could hear in our Peatre with different divisions but also some nice Rich chords in there occasionally, was that in the oscillators or the sequence?
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 27 күн бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, the chords are mainly from the sequence/arp of the keystep.
@wudimusic
@wudimusic Ай бұрын
How did you set it up so one Pro-800 controls the other one? Is one midi-out on the others midi-in ? this would be no option for me since is use and Oxi One with an S61 i think about how to tackle this problem, since my first Pro 800 is on it´s way..
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 27 күн бұрын
Yes, one controls the other via midi, over usb in this case, routed within the iPad AUM app.
@wudimusic
@wudimusic 26 күн бұрын
@@PeteMidi Thank you for your Answer, your setup is so neat, i still havent figured it out.. i want to implement a 2nd Behringer Pro-800 in my Setup. I recently got an Oxi One, which is insanely Powerfull and controlls all of my Hardwaresynths via Midi. I wrongly guessed, Pairing 2xPro800´s could be done Vanilla or via PC-app & routed like an Model-D for true Stereo. Since i own a Tascam Model 24, i try to avoid PC´s/Mac in the longterm, still thank you. Ill figure something out maybe my 2x8rotary encoders could controll at the same time via MidiCC inputs. I´ll see, when worst comes to worst i do it like that. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXTFhZmFlpmfmas
@wudimusic
@wudimusic 26 күн бұрын
and thank you, for your quality content
@johnnybigpotato2404
@johnnybigpotato2404 Ай бұрын
excellent tune at the end. :) Thanks!
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 27 күн бұрын
😊
@dkb219
@dkb219 Ай бұрын
If you load up a bunch of percussion sounds on a Volca sample and synch it with one of these, you can get some pretty fun and interesting stuff going. It can also make you terribly late for work, but everything has its downside.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 27 күн бұрын
😊
@steveparadox1
@steveparadox1 Ай бұрын
Great demo. Sounds amazing
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi 27 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot! 😊
@RaquelFoster
@RaquelFoster Ай бұрын
5:53 starts like Music: Responmse
@DankePlace
@DankePlace Ай бұрын
Erae I just emailed to get some info on import duties, still awaiting a reply. I don't think the Osmose is my thing, it just doesn't articulate the gestures I want like the Erae does.
@PeteMidi
@PeteMidi Ай бұрын
Yes, same with me, I'm really convinced about the Erae concept, but the first version touch surface could be a but more sensitive and homogeneous. I hope the second will do the job!
@DankePlace
@DankePlace Ай бұрын
@@PeteMidi I think in my situation, the ability to custom any gesture for my unique play style has benefits over any traditional keys layout. DeLaurentis shows a perfect example of what you can achieve, so I am excited to finally get something that will allow me to approach music with my style.
@StaticCat
@StaticCat Ай бұрын
Good video, very instructive. Question please, how have you got them connected? The keystep to rd6 via midi. How clocking the 800?
@TheMachinesWon
@TheMachinesWon Ай бұрын
Do u ever see an error on ur display reading “filtr/vibr pdl” how do I get rid of this bug? It happens whether I have midi plugged in with other synths and without.
@paulmarland
@paulmarland 5 күн бұрын
I am also seeing this error - Music Tribe suggested a Full Reset, which I did, but this did not fix it. It seems to go away after a while but it is frustrating
@Aetila
@Aetila Ай бұрын
I wish people made prank videos....playing on an expesive new Obie...but let the Pro 8oo sound via Midi connection...people would praise the Obie and would dream about it, they wouldn't believe that i was the sound of the 350 USD Behringer Pro 800, hehe.
@robashton8606
@robashton8606 Ай бұрын
Blue Room vibes during the jam at the end. Love it.
@muppetpaster
@muppetpaster Ай бұрын
D is Going for under 200€ nowadays