Behringer UB-Xa Favourite Presets (Sound Demo)

[@JohnTrasher]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qH3GkHaslKp0l9k I made quick tutorial how to make the ubxa sound more fatter and how it sounds against other competitors.

[@albeckwall]

One of the better sounding demos out there. Does it sound exactly like a 1980 OB-xa....i don't friggin know. Does it sound like a good poly with musical potential.... definitely.

[@JohnTrasher]

Exactly... and less menu diving than the hydrasynth which had poly AT as well

[@mwdiers]

Exactly the same? No. Better. The polyAT makes a huge difference. The first preset in the vid is a perfect example. I was going to trade my Summit for one of these, but with the revised price, I think I'll keep both, and use the Summit's effects with the UB-Xa.

[@BengtHaugen-c3e]

i think for us who didnt have the real deal, its not a biggie..i just need something that has the vibe and sounds good, this defnitely do that

[@osirismaximus2787]

You play very nicely. It's so important when showing off a synth to play something good to do the patches justice and you did not disappoint. Nice work!

[@JohnTrasher]

Thank you very much! When you look at my older videos you see me struggling hard :D mostly relying on sequencers,

[@Outdoorshuntingshooting]

I remember walking into a used music gear shop in Nottinghill i think., late eighties, they had a room full of Oberheims, sequential circuits and, moogs, prices? were practically free.

[@3DomTV]

I think that's one of my earliest memories. and possibly one of the precursors for my autism hahahaaa

[@analogsynthplayer]

@0:18 CS-80 Sounds good

[@sirsilver1968]

very nice ive got the UBXA Desktop coming this Monday cant wait

[@JohnTrasher]

@@sirsilver1968 thinking of switching to desktop as well

[@realmchat6665]

I like your playing, good way to hear the synths sounds.

[@synthsamuraiproductions]

Sounds great. Nice demo

[@JohnTrasher]

Thank you! I like this synths too, sold my hydrasynth for it :)

[@blueeyedsoulman]

I don't know why but I really prefer the sound of the Pro-800. Guess I'm waiting for Uli's ver of the Prophet 10.

[@andrewhughes6966]

🤦‍♂️

[@JohnTrasher]

I also have the Pro 800 in my eurorack System, but tbh i dont use it that much... for the price its definetly okay and in a Mix nobody hears a difference i suppose, but after playing a little more hours with the ubx, its really fun. And way more intuitive than the hydrasynth which i sold to get the ubx

[@klownaround5464]

@@JohnTrasherselling THE HYDRA WAS A MISTAKE TOTALLY DIFFERENT BEAST - you should of just saved $$ or got the Explorer and paired them - that’s what I’m doing - i actually got the first HYDRASYNTH and then also picked up the Explorer for layering 2 different sounds

[@klownaround5464]

Berhinger UBX-A on my list but I’m gonna wait until Guitar Center or Sam Ash get them in store on display to try them out in person - i can’t tell Thru KZbin if the sounds are truly worth it yet and once ppl start making sound banks pack for sale where they make better sounding presets then I’ll take the chance

[@danielalzapiedi7171]

What did we pay in 1980 for anything that sounded 1/2 as good as this. And had 1/10 th the mojo. ? So nice!!

[@boeiend100]

prologue 16 has a similar price, although discontinued recently. Plus for prologue is that it got a 3th digital custom osc + effects. Plus for the behringer is that it got aftertouch and sequencer. Someone should compare both soundwise

[@JohnTrasher]

I had the minilogue xd two years ago, but at the time it didnt resonate with me so much

[@tsmith7146]

Here in the UK, the UBXa (£999) is cheaper than the price that a new Prologue 8 was - the Prologue 16 was at least half as much again and went for at least £1700.

[@Donetur]

I owned a Prologue for some weeks, I ended returning it because it had an annoying noise. First the software didn’t work for me, I tried in two computers and it was not my issue (I am IT). On the other hand, it sounded good but the filter was a bit noisy, distorted like a MS20 maybe, I didn’t like it too much, but when the sound was created and the filter was not moving too much it sounded good. It costed to make it sounding good sometimes. Still it was a bit thin, but it sounded vintage. Maybe I had a bias because I compared it too much with my Prophet 10 and it is far from a Prophet in sound quality, at least no matter what I do the Prophet always sounds good and fat. But it was a good synth I would have kept if it didn’t have all these issues. Nevertheless, I think the Behringer is better, I don’t own one but I mean judging per the demos, although I would go for a real Oberheim (and that’s exactly what I am going to do this year). Note: the Prologue is not linked to a Minilogue, contrary to what people may think.

[@Claude_van]

Nice reverb!👍🏾

[@JohnTrasher]

Specular Tempus (upper left corner)

[@kagasachi]

are you playing a song at 4:35? that progression sounds so familiar

[@JohnTrasher]

Its this song: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpStfIR3p7mUhq8si=wsd8MMP_uGBqh9Ex

[@EchoKraft]

Haters are gonna hate but I think this sounds amazing. For those of us who always wanted an Oberheim or a Dave Smith / Oberheim instrument this is it and for a lot less money I have a Dave Smith instrument or sequential circuits rev two which I love I think this is going to go well sitting next to it. Thanks for the demo.

[@JohnTrasher]

Hab auch den Rev2, die quali vom keybed ist schon nne andere liga, nur eben kein poly at

[@odmusicman]

I have the UB-XA on pre-order here in the states. I am on the fence between the UBX and Rev2. I am a player's player and composer so I really like a good keybed. Also, the Rev2 probably has better oscillator circuits, but again twice the price. @@JohnTrasher

[@WeibchenOfDeath]

Nice!

[@Pieces_Of_History2]

i have mine too for about 1 month. It is surprising where behringer has come. The sound of this is way warmer than one would expect. Great bass, tho i find it growls a bit too much when in unison. ( I do stack the whole 16 voices) so thats the issue. Going to figure out how to just stack like 4 voices maybe because 16 voices in unison just sounds waaaay way way too much. asides from that, to be completely honest the keybed is junk. I don't care what other people say. IT is EXTREMELY light, and due to the keys being so light and slightly thinner it doesnt take much to hit and trigger wrong notes when playing. asides from that the sound is truly amazing for the price.

[@JohnTrasher]

Press shift + Unison to cycle through the number of voices

[@klownaround5464]

Yea it needs effects connected to sound good i guess

[@KBizzy]

Love the sounds. What effects are you running it through there?

[@JohnTrasher]

The specular tempus in the upper left corner. "Spacious" is the Algorythm.

[@DillaDawgForever]

Finally someone just playing this thing and not talking like a nerd

[@JohnTrasher]

Haha thx, i know, that bothers me too :D

[@markk.8410]

Thanks a bunch for uploading this. Having owned an OB-8 previously, I've really considered picking one of these up. After selling the Obie, I bought a Prophet 08 and still have it. How would you compare both the build quality and the overall sound and feel of the UB-Xa to your Rev 2. Of the two, which is the one you would call a "must have"?

[@JohnTrasher]

Rev2 has the better keybed. It misses the Poly AT though... the rev2 8 voice variant is almost double the price, therefore i wouldt opt for the ubx... if i am honest, i think i will swap to a desktopversion and get a nice poly at midi Controller... thinking about the osmose expressive e :D If definetly comes down to the price you would have to buy... rev2 also needs external fx... but the keybed is why i keep mine

[@maxmeier532]

Can you comment on the fan inside the synth? Is there any noise, little noise, a lot? There seems to be an option to turn it off completely.

[@JohnTrasher]

it turned on after a while, but like my PC fan, you can hear it, but only when there is nothing else going on in the room ;)

[@Bloor005]

It sounds so nice and you play amazing. Doesnt sound quite like the original to my ears. But then those probably had a lot of processing in the records I listened to. Not a fan of the way Uli runs things though so I'm always reluctant there.

[@undercoverneunzehn]

You are typing this on a fairtrade laptop?

[@Bloor005]

@@undercoverneunzehn I'm not talking about the Chinese factory ffs. I'm talking about the way he (Uli) treats journalists and reviewers, and also small retailers.

[@xntricity6446]

​@@Bloor005I agree however.... His engineers have created this masterpiece so hats off to them. I'll purchase it so they get their well deserved salary.

[@Bloor005]

@@xntricity6446 His engineers? You mean Tom Oberheims.

[@Shred_The_Weapon]

Is it me, or were the oscillators detuned? C-minor voicings sound kind of like B-minor ones.

[@JohnTrasher]

Dont have an absolute hearing :D

[@Goettel]

Reminds me of why I got rid of my analogue synths back then. But in a good way.

[@JohnTrasher]

what do you mean exactly? I actually like the sound and controls are quite immediate... except for the Mod Matrix for poly AT and so on...

[@Goettel]

@@JohnTrasher It sounds like a great analogue synth, with all the benefits and limitations that entails.

[@metaspherz]

Maybe somebody can tell me if I have a defective unit. After a week I am about to return it. There aren't any usable presets. I suppose the sounds are like building blocks and are meant to be designed, like make my own sounds. But I don't know how to do that. I sold my DeepMind12 to buy the UB-xa but the DM12 had a ton of great sounds right out of the box compared to what I got with the UB! Plus, the volumes of the presets are not loud in my DAW or using headphones. I have to turn the volume control up to max and also in the DAW and it barely makes a sound. I use Studio One 6 and have never had issues with any synth, in fact they all have ran hot and would clip if I wasn't careful. Not even remotely a problem with the UB-Xa. So, could I have a defective unit? I don't know. I am disappointed so far. I actually bought a bank of presets from SynthKing, so now I have to figure out how to install them. There are no instructions how to do so. I am at a loss. Every other analog synth I have owned has come with amazing preset sounds and software , but nada for all four banks of the UB are terrible. Are they starter sounds or what? Or do I have a defective synth? I have listened to your playing and several other demos and they all sound great, but my unit sounds like a little kid's starter piano with dinky, plucky sounds. There are no big, dynamic, or genuinely inspiring sounds whatsoever. If anybody has suggestions, thanks in advance. But I will have to call Musician's Friend in the meantime.

[@JohnTrasher]

@@metaspherz did u try using the headphone output? I use the headphone out for my poly D as well. The basic presets were not my taste either... they need FX. The deepmind has fx inbuilt. Ask synthking how to install, i suppose you have sysex files right?

[@MLochMusic]

How do you play so good? I should take lessons but so put off by having to learn and read music that I hate. I just want to be able to play.

[@JohnTrasher]

Cant read sheet music either... i mostly look out for synthesia videos where the notes are visualized. I play guitar though too

[@MLochMusic]

@@JohnTrasher Thanks for the reply John. Do you know all the scales and chords and inversions then? Just trying to make a start. Feel like Im watching a tenth dan and trying to reverse engineer a white belt lesson

[@Martinez-mr3uy]

Nice patches, these are all factory presets? We gotta wait a couple months here in the States to get ours.

[@JohnTrasher]

Yes these have been factory... Bank C is quite usable

[@Martinez-mr3uy]

@@JohnTrasher good to know, thanks

[@DankePlace]

This is an awesome synth and you and I have very similar gear, this synth is a pad monster and deserves hands on. You should try the PAT with your Rev 2 and DM12 stacked, I think you will shit yourself LOL.

[@JohnTrasher]

They dont respond to poly AT, or how would you set this up?

[@DankePlace]

@@JohnTrasher they both respond to PAT, check menu and also manual. You need to turn on feature in Rev 2 as I have one and experimented with it, the patch needs to have some sort of PAT feature enabled too. DM12 I have touched the PAT feature but it does state it responds to PAT. There is quite a lot of Sequential synths that respond to PAT, just they do not have PAT keybeds. This is why I want a UBXa, PAT keybed would give me that ultimate PAD experience. Rev 2 is a certainty, DM12 I have to re-check but have read previously it does respond to PAT.

[@DankePlace]

@@JohnTrasher I just checked the manual, DM12 does not respond to PAT, but I am 100% certain I have read it does.

[@JohnTrasher]

@@DankePlace cant have it all for 700€ :D i had the hydrasynths, and beeing able to play with PAT is really a good XP. i was thinking about the osmose and alike, but they are little too expensive yet for my taste

[@DankePlace]

@@JohnTrasher I had the HS desktop, never really liked it, that was my foray into PAT, along side the LPPM3, which for some reason did not send PAT to my Rev 2

[@mattdavids3357]

Sounds awesome but I saw Berhinger and thought it was gonna low cost. Haha.

[@pickyyeeter]

It's pretty well priced for a 16 voice analog synth with polyphonic aftetouch and MPE support

[@witchdoctorwise]

its an insanely low price for what it is. Like unprecedented in the history of synths.

[@bengsynthmusic]

Does it have USB audio out?

[@JohnTrasher]

Good question, but i think no

[@Outdoorshuntingshooting]

some of the 12db filter sounds are reminiscent of a certain Japanese behemoth. I like it, but will wait to pick one up used when the early adopter braggarts realise they bought another piece of gear they'll never use.

[@JohnTrasher]

See my latest video :D

[@WesWookBeats]

16 voice poly for under $1k that sounds on par = 🥇

[@htechdance]

It's $1200.

[@ReggieBishop]

​@@htechdancethat's a steal 😅

[@michaelpierce3264]

fantastic!

[@JohnTrasher]

Thanks! The more i play the more i love it

[@zechariahfrink3707]

This thing sounds great. Fuck these haters dismissing this. Instrument. I don’t care what anyone says this and other Behringer synths are great instruments for the money. And to all the Oberheim purists, yes those are great, made by a legendary synth builder and inovator BUT I still think their stuff is overpriced for what it is. This synth has some Yamaha CS-80 kinda sounds from what I’ve heard some guys do with it. The whole point of this “gear” is to MAKE music not just sit around and nerd around technical specs and snob on brand names and all that other useless bullshit. If you can make great music with it nothing else matters. That’s my two cents and I’ll be getting one of these and a deep mind for my setup soon.

[@JohnTrasher]

I totally agree! Still keeping my poly d... yesterday i played on a moog model in a shop... 5k forca mono synth, wtf? :D

[@sK3LeTvM1]

There has been a lot of hyping and fuzz about the Behringer. But reality is that you already see first second hand s appear. Personally, I would say, put i.e. a Novation Summit aside, and decide for yourself...

[@JohnTrasher]

Never tried the novation products...

[@jochenh.7428]

The UB-XA doesn't have the mojo of the original. I don't want to play piano or organ sounds with it. The pads and brass sounds feel smaller There's a reason why I still have not heard a good Jump sound out of it. It's more a further analog synth. If you want to have an Oberheim, you might be okay with Gforce OB-X and that's it possibly.

[@JohnTrasher]

You may be right, i felt the same when i listened to the jump preset... it may be possible with a layered / doubled patch though

[@unclemick-synths]

I suspect a contributor to the reason Jump doesn't sound accurate is down to the EQ and ambience in the record (on the 1984 album there's a lot of mixing the clean to one side and reverb to the other). It's probably a source of a lot of the "accuracy" issues with other hardware/vst clones. Even Michael Jackson fell into that trap with the Beat It gong sound - the sound on the Synclavier demo record that he wanted for his record had been processed so the guys created a version of the patch for him with effects in it.

[@Dudderlyful]

@@unclemick-synths I mean the track 'Jump' is a professionally produced record, its not a bunch of people playing dry instruments which got recorded and released lol. I don't think I have to highlight how ridiculous that comparison is, but if you're judging the synth base don that then you are off your nut.

[@Dudderlyful]

Sorry this comment is aimed at @jochenh.7428

[@cnfuzz]

​@@JohnTrasher the jump preset will never sound huge even on a obx-a and you know why, because on the record it was taped miked through a big marshall stack , that is why it sounded ballsy , i have the magazine article from 84 where he discribed it , in the article he even says obx instead of obx-a

[@maikmario71]

I don't like the synthetic cold sound from Behringer synthesizers, they're too lifeless and without character for me, they all sound the same, it's a shame

[@JohnTrasher]

Shouldnt synths sound synthetic? :D

[@pinocarella_00]

non mi convince.

[@Strepite]

Guess it’s cool but not my cup of tea, all the demos that are popping out now sound way too outdated and “vintage” but in a cheesy sense. Guess I’m not a fan of Oberheim sound…

[@gcoudert]

I agree. As amazing as they may sound, I rarely find a place for that American Oberheim or Sequential sound in my music and I much prefer the Japanese sound of Roland, Yamaha and Korg synths.

[@Strepite]

@@gcoudert I find Sequential sound quite modern but warm and creamy. Especially modern synths like Take 5… Completely oposite of what I’m hearing here

[@JohnTrasher]

@@gcoudert do the "japanese" also make analog, or mostly digital? But i get the Idea... what would be an equivalent to the rev2 in your opinion?

[@unclemick-synths]

The Synth King patch bundles seem to have more quality to them.

[@Strepite]

@@unclemick-synths A bit better but still waaaay too oldschool for my taste. Nothing wrong with that, just not my cup of tea…

[@emilianolasalle]

And the oberheim sound? Sounds like other behringer meh

[@allkeyspro6606]

I agree!

[@jmoffitt36]

I agree while it’s a decent poly synth. The SEM filter is what makes the OB so good. The filter on this is really off. I’m completely happy with my Deepmind 12 and Pro 800. I’ll pass on this one

[@allkeyspro6606]

There’s something in the envelopes which sounds off to me. Obviously they are digital, it gives this a cold and sterile quality.

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

​@jmoffitt36 This doesn't have an SEM the OB-X had a SEM filter and the OB Xa and OB 8 had the CEM 3320 same as same as some of the prophet 5 revisions.

[@AdamTheAd-vanc3d]

​@@allkeyspro6606They are FPGA I think and being digital too precise. You kind of have to have to play your keys with timing thought to get that nice vintage wonkiness . I had this same thought on the P800 but, you can really get those nice out of sync overlapping releases and attacks simply by releasing your fingers off some notes on chords slightly faster or slower. I know it's not the same but it's a worthy work round.

[@frankweber356]

Hardware with a sound of a Plugin.......forget it.

[@JohnTrasher]

is das nicht bei allen synth so? :D

[@frankweber356]

Nein......die Unterschiede werden geringer, aber nur wer sich davor setzt wird es merken. Man kann es vergleichen, wenn du vor einem Original- Gemälde stehst, oder es auf dem Bildschirm siehst. Irgendwie so.Wen es nicht stört.....@@JohnTrasher

[@robertmichalscheck3072]

Sorry but most of these presets sounded awful,cheap

[@JohnTrasher]

Did you headphones / stereo speaker?