BEHRINGER WING 2.0 FOR WORSHIP | MIX BREAKDOWN AND NEW TEMPLATE

[@ItzCyCy]

One of the cleanest mixes I have heard in awhile. It’s 2 things… the mix itself but the instrumentation is master class as well, intentional, clean dynamics, very nice soundscape and distinct parts and all meshes so well. Great stuff and Praise God!

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you!

[@prospirit.me-gregory]

Your training skills are on point. You made it about the content and not about being flashy. I really like that.

[@alexleebataller]

Really appreciate that!

[@Palvader]

Your musicians are SO GOOD! I love your approach to the stringed instruments! So well done!

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you!

[@TGSounds-qd5cq]

Love the Snare Man!

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you!

[@marcelobustos5328]

Lee, a huge thanks for this video! We recently purchased the Wing and have had some struggles with it but seeing this video and being able to get your template it will surely make our job a lot easier! Bless!

[@alexleebataller]

That’s awesome to hear!

[@whoguy4231]

That mix sounded AWESOME ...Great job

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you!

[@TheJoshOrton]

It has no business sounding this good on that console. Fantastic job brother. Clearly you guys did a good job capturing everything. The only question I have is did I miss where there's some type of saturation on the lead vocal? There's a little distortion and it almost sounds like something's overdriven but in a really good way. Once again, great job. I rarely have anything nice to say these days with Church audio guys😂

[@alexleebataller]

Thanks so much man! There’s no direct saturation effect happening anywhere but the 1176 compressor definitely adds some nice harmonic grit. I could imagine that, along with the Distressor parallel bus might be what you’re hearing!

[@TheJoshOrton]

@@alexleebataller It's the distressor. I forgot you were doing that.

[@Palvader]

Woah, this mix sounds incredible! The sources are also incredible!

[@keith_hudson]

Perfect timing.

[@Cwhite.tx23]

Sounds incredible - sick video!

[@ricardohavinga]

That sounds amazing man! And that board is going to stir commotion among the gear snobs.

[@alexleebataller]

Haha thank you!

[@jesusinpresa]

You did a great job man!!!! Sounds incredible!!!! Blessings :)

[@LeviWhalen]

Amazing work man. I went back and listened to your video from a year ago and it’s awesome to see how you’ve improved! 🎉 Making me want to pick up this board.

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you!

[@IliezerSavergnini]

Muito obrigado pelo seu trabalho. Deus continue te abençoando.

[@Palvader]

Thank you so much for this very helpful video! I had no idea the Wing could run tuning plug-ins within the desk itself! Not even the SQ can do that!

[@CHHelmi]

Nice video! One suggestion, I learned to use the 1176 before the la-2a so the slow opto doesnt Need to work that Hard for the peeks

[@kojoXAppau]

This is superb,God bless you

[@alexleebataller]

Thanks!

[@dosbrosphotos.]

29:53 This is awesome! The production of the video is amazing! The mix sounds phenomenal! It’s just an amazing video!! Now my question that I time stamped. How do I figure out how much latency is added when running FX inserts? And is the amount of latency that is added determined on what fx you are inserting? Just trying to wrap my head around this.

[@illreel5169]

I always double mono pan on high demand tracks, I'm so happy this unit had motorized faders

[@K3dev]

The acoustic guitar sounds amazing!

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you!

[@josephkyei9606]

Great mix...you mind sharing the multitrack

[@alexleebataller]

@@josephkyei9606 free on my website!

[@donaldburns4462]

Wow! Impressive

[@timothy.cuenat]

Wow the musicians, i want that 🤪🤩 Thanks for your tips 😄

[@joeledwards8983]

wow....just wow!

[@domiageless]

Eeeeeeish Mahn, ❤❤❤❤. You are a gentleman to share this... Blessings tobyou Sir... salute 🙏

[@jasonstlouis9871]

Thanks for this video Lee. I'd like to know more about the configuration. I see two MacBook's and a USB Stick. how exactly did you configure them? What software are they running? Are you doing Multi-Track from the SD Card? Or MacBook? Also, can you expand further on the latency issues caused by the FX plugins? Since not all channels and buses were using Fx, does the console calculate the latency? How were you able to figure out 28 samples? God Bless.

[@petterrong1590]

17:39 Wait, what? It does true stereo panning as default? That's actually neat!

[@robh7671]

Sounds very good, but would your download BEHRINGER WING 2.0 work on the last update 3.03

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you! It works all the way up to 3.0.4!

[@ipsonidocnc]

Good Mix! Could you show a video mixing ambient microphones and preaching microphones?

[@alexleebataller]

Great idea!

[@amarmahapatra7046]

Thanks you sir

[@DecoJunior]

Sounds great. Congratulations. Big problem I see today is how to train this kind of Mixing if you don’t even access the Worship style multitracks.

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you! Good point!

[@realbingus]

We started recording tracks and playing em back for training new people on our team. It should be possible over USB, but since we’re also live streaming we decided to use Dante. In the future we’d also like to use it for the band during rehearsal, so they can configure their in-ear mixes without playing.

[@donzpressplay]

Tight band solid mix! 🤙🏾

[@alexleebataller]

Appreciate it!

[@emmanueladusei6735]

great mix. Can you share the multitrack so we can try our hands on it?

[@alexleebataller]

On my website for free!

[@neob9017]

Wow we need to get better sources, LOL that sounds incredible. Inspired to dive into our wing more

[@alexleebataller]

Good sources are a game changer!

[@abiasalencar]

The Best mix of this song, great job! Do You have the Multitrack of this version for download?

[@alexleebataller]

@@abiasalencar available on my website!

[@abiasalencar]

@@alexleebataller Thanks brother, God Bless You

[@fredbob7521]

Bravo. Good job... Beau boulot !!!

[@Kgn_prodution]

awesome i need the song thanks

[@alexleebataller]

Tracks available for free on my website!

[@zechpatrick]

your mix is 🔥🔥🔥

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you so much!

[@zechpatrick]

@@alexleebataller ❤

[@jcwonder007]

Hi Lee. I bought the Behringer Wing package on your website. Are the macros for the Pitch Fix included? Can you a video to explain how to work with this? Thanks

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you so much! Yes, they are included. Check the downloaded zip for the presets, also here is a video explaining how to use them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3WWnqSmfLOgfq8

[@meistudiosspecialevents6947]

Had to come back to this video... When you do the drum squash bus, did you send pre or post sends of the drums to it? Just love your posts.

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you! Post fader sends to the Drum Smash bus. 🤘🏻

[@meistudiosspecialevents6947]

@@alexleebataller thanks man! lol smash not squash... thats a vegetable.

[@jamesbourne2947]

Those Numans VOX mics just are the cherry on top

[@alexleebataller]

They really are worth the hype 🔥

[@andreinastase1932]

nice band you have🥴 love your mixing style. hello from a sound engineer in Romania💪🏻

[@fatcatnordleadx]

i got the waves LV1 , now i feel like getting the WIng. never expect so much plugins as compared to my M32s

[@alexleebataller]

Oh this wasn’t even the half of them, there’s several EQ and Compression emulations all built in to each channel. It’s a little absurd to have this much power.

[@pitchfordproductions]

The mix sounds fantastic and you've definitely given me a couple of ideas to try on my Wing! Also, having Brady on your staff I would imagine helps you tremendously in terms of making sure everything sounds good at the source. One thing I will point out (and there's a KZbinr by the name of Guillaume Lortie that explores this more in depth) is that the Pitch Fix plugin doesn't work the way that traditional AutoTune works (that'd be too convenient lol). By highlighting a note red, Pitch Fix does not pull a note to the nearest available note on one side of it or the other like AutoTune would. Instead, you're telling Pitch Fix which notes to pull to the grid and which ones to simply ignore (i.e. the note highlighted red would not be corrected at all). Ideally you would want to run Pitch Fix "chromatic" where it would pull everything to the nearest note. You would highlight a note red if there's a note that needs to be ignored because it's consistently doing more harm than good.

[@jasonhennessy6646]

CORRECT - This is TC Helicon's Chromatic pitch correction found in the Voicelive, Mic mechanic etc, it is not autotune, eliminating notes just ignores the singer from being helped and tuned by 100% at a speed of 60% in your settings. The correct way is to use it Chromatically all the time

[@nbkaudio]

Perfect - Nice Sound

[@alexleebataller]

Glad you like it!

[@felixlaemmli1355]

Hey Lee. Great mix. Thanks for the Video. One question, why do you “waste” a bus and an fx slot for your dry wet buses. Why not just use the dry wet percentage on the compressor? Let’s say all the drum channels on a bus, there you insert the smash compressor and set the mix to 25%? Or do you eq them differently? Thank you Felix

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you! Yes they are split in case I need to eq the groups separately. 🤘🏻

[@hamatvk2141]

Lee, I was interested to see you manually adding delay for insert compensation...i thought the wing (and other digital consoles) automatically had delay compensation built in?

[@alexleebataller]

After some testing with the console, it doesn’t have any sort of delay compensation. I’ve been thinking of making a video of some more testing.

[@colmhinchion1309]

Nice video. Are all the plugins you are using available as stock in the wing or are you using waves rack?

[@camstewart2833]

Great video, thanks so much! Quick question, why do you not have an empty FX insert on the vocal dry bus like you did on the drum dry bus to help for the delay compensation? Does the Pitch Fix FX on the vocal channels not introduce latency?

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you! Yes, Pitch Fix does introduce latency, but each vocal has the same processing, therefore delaying in time together into each bus. Vocal channels are sends only into the busses, which then are sent to Master. Hope this explains!

[@camstewart2833]

@@alexleebataller Awesome, thank you!! Could you maybe quickly expand on the delay compensation you did to the drum channels that don't have an insert on them, that stuff is still confusing me a bit. Are you doing that to only the drum channels or to every channel in the entire mix(guitars, vocals etc.) that doesn't have an insert on them?

[@camstewart2833]

@@alexleebataller Actually I think I get it now. You're just adding the delay compensation to any channel within it's own subgroup, like the drums, that doesn't have an insert on them so that they're in time with the other channels that do have inserts by the time they hit the drum subgroup bus?

[@alexleebataller]

@@camstewart2833 yes sir!

[@mixinglane]

I learned that in the Wing: * Effects selected in the channel strip slot does not add latency. * Effects added via the effects rack will add latency.

[@kpogbanogaga3589]

Thanks for the video it was really helpful, but I have a question is the drum smash, vocal comp and all the effect bus pre or post.

[@alexleebataller]

@@kpogbanogaga3589 all busses post!

[@kpogbanogaga3589]

@@alexleebataller thanks for the reply

[@13dew]

How do you get such clean recordings on the wing ?

[@dmoss1285]

thanks for another video Lee. Hey on the guitar panning tip, I think using the tilt feature on the wing would accomplish the exact same thing that you are doing and allowing you to go back to one channel strip per guitar. Im not talking about the tilt EQ but the tilt pan which compensates one way or the other to the left or right channel of a stereo pair. Its not a pan, but takes away gain from one side or the other. Also I think you mentioned, but on all of your vocal channels, are you unassigning them from all the main outputs and having only the reverbs and delays assigned to the main outputs? Thanks.

[@alexleebataller]

Yes the channels are not assigned, they feed into the dry and comp groups that are feeding to main outputs!

[@chronicmango]

How did you calculate the 28 sample delay? Does it change depending on which effects you’re sending to?

[@anubhabbora]

Hello, Where can I get the Mix Template that you mentioned in the video? I could not find it in the website.

[@alexleebataller]

@@anubhabbora www.leebataller.com/shop/p/wing-20-package

[@MEDIACRAFTdm]

Great Work! Congratulations! Can You kindly say how did you conect the Mac to the console for multitrack mixing? Is it through built-in USB connection? Dante? Ethernet? Best!!

[@alexleebataller]

@@MEDIACRAFTdm usb to the wing!

[@joellouisfire]

What IEMs are you using to mix?

[@alexleebataller]

KZ Z10 Pro, better than molds I’ve used. I have like 5 pair

[@joellouisfire]

@alexleebataller no way haha, that's awesome. Gotta give them a try, thank you

[@joellouisfire]

@alexleebataller btw, would you consider this the broadcast or FOH mix? Curious as to how this template would translate on mains

[@andreasfasekasch6633]

nice work. But are you sure that the console doesn't compensate processing delay? I'm sure the X32 don't but the WING do ;)

[@alexleebataller]

Unfortunately after testing, I’ve found there is no delay compensation on FX inserts.

[@RulesofSolitaire]

@@alexleebataller thanks for covering this aspect in this video. this is a topic that is very interesting/important to me at the moment. Have you measured the channel inserts? (not the rack). I have heard on another video that the channel processing is accounted for but would like to know what you found. I would imagine the bus to bus processing needs to be accounted for as well. I pre-ordered a Wing Rack yesterday and CAN"T WAIT to run pink noise through it with SMAART and measure the path lengths on this console. Also very hyped that this platform does channel delay in Sample resolution....can really get those inputs tuned up with one another. Thanks for the video!!

[@CamTalksTech]

How do you quickly change keys for the pitch correction? Hot keys similar to they bypass?

[@pastoraronmartinez47]

I just bought it, any idea to send it to live stream?

[@alexleebataller]

@@pastoraronmartinez47 thank you so much! Yes, you can use this for a live stream set up! All you would need to do is set up an extra output on your Wing and plug it into your streaming hardware. If you have anymore questions, email me! [e-mail]

[@Mheers]

Great video and mix! I saw you mention that this is for FOH. What do you do for your broadcast mix? Do you have another Wing or do you just mix out from FOH?

[@alexleebataller]

I normally use a separate spilt of the inputs into another mixing setup. Usually a Protools session.

[@hervechrissindayigaya5159]

this is 😍

[@samuelkennethacquah1068]

Great job mate. Please i want to use your tracks for a video. please can i use it? Good once again

[@alexleebataller]

@@samuelkennethacquah1068 they’re available for free on my website!

[@samuelkennethacquah1068]

@@alexleebataller thank you mate. Can i get your name so i give you credit in the video

[@alexleebataller]

@@samuelkennethacquah1068 Lee Bataller

[@samuelkennethacquah1068]

@@alexleebataller ❤️

[@Nujola]

Are all the effects and processing from the wing?

[@alexleebataller]

Yep!

[@jordangilchrist2096]

can you give frequency that y'all tune your drums to and what heads y'all are using?

[@alexleebataller]

We don’t tune to a frequency, just a good balance of tone and resonance while being pitch matched around the drum. Kick - Evan’s EMAD 2 Snare - Powerstroke P4 Coated Toms - Emperor Coated

[@maclawsonj]

Awesome mix,what mics are you using for the vocals?

[@alexleebataller]

@@maclawsonj Neumann KK205

[@АлександрАртамонов-ф7ц]

Is it possible to do same thing with alternative(orange color in wing) routing ?

[@akeyzstudio6620]

NICE SOUND can you do a studio one template also so we can buy with the same emulation of strips

[@alexleebataller]

Would love to! Gotta get my hands on Studio One!

[@stephenbates7179]

Dude, this sounds phenomenal! Question for your template, are the in ears post dynamics and pre fader? also how many buses did you have set up?

[@alexleebataller]

@@stephenbates7179 this template doesn’t have any IEM busses set up but you would want to make sure they’re set up as pre-fader!

[@stephenbates7179]

@@alexleebataller okay gotcha! With this template There are enough busses left over to send stereo iem busses correct? Curious what your iems sound like with this template

[@alexleebataller]

@@stephenbates7179 yeah, I left the first 8 busses open for crews that use busses for IEM. You could use this template for that case and they would sound great!

[@davidsurrealista]

What is the Sweet Spot for Gain Staging?

[@alexleebataller]

Healthy signal in the high greens/low yellow. Probably -18db to -12db. 🤘🏻

[@davidsurrealista]

@@alexleebataller Nice, I just bought it, I'll try it tonight.

[@itsdycmusic]

Question, was this only for the recording or also used for the in house mixing?

[@alexleebataller]

@@itsdycmusic it’s mainly optimized for house or live stream mixing!

[@bnato8209]

do you recommend this board for live performances? Really dont want to buy an analog board for live band practice if I dont need to. Thank you,. Great job on the vidja. Definitely saving this link.

[@davormaric4436]

Can you post all mics used?

[@alexleebataller]

Kick in - Shure Beta 91A Kick out - Audis D6 Snare top - Shure 545 Snare bot - Shure SM57 Rack - Audix D2 Floor - Audix D4 OH - Audix ADX51 Acoustic - K&K Trinity Pro Vocals - Neumann KK205

[@christembassyalvintexas256]

I do not see a channel for Hi Hat in the template? I also tried to use this as a template

[@IFGF_Plamongan-Indah]

Can we get source multitrack files for this song?

[@alexleebataller]

@@IFGF_Plamongan-Indah available on my website! Leebataller.com

[@francoisparent6478]

This sounds incredible! This is a FOH mix?

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you, and correct!

[@mikebauer2243]

May I ask, which lamp are you using there?

[@alexleebataller]

a.co/d/4URcwzM

[@Olonade_Ayo]

How do i link Ableton Live DAW to Wing?

[@millyhunter]

Hey great video, I was wondering so you input delay for every single channel? or just that Drum? (BTW love this mix can we purchase the song)

[@alexleebataller]

Thank you! Just the drum channels inside the group since the signal will bleed into the other microphones.

[@xlilxillx]

are you telling me there's no delay compensation on the wing? that is insane

[@MrJulicool]

Whats the name of the acoustic guitar microfon?

[@alexleebataller]

@@MrJulicool K&K Sound Trinity Mini Pro

[@gaspartv1537]

Poderia disponibilizar a multitracks para estudo de mix?????

[@frmtheden]

I have a question for you, did you run into any issues updating from 1.12ish to 2.0? I looking for resources on how to back up our routing and everything in case something happens. Anything I should be thinking about going from 1.12 to 2.0 should I go to 2.1?

[@alexleebataller]

The library and FX setting recall has been entirely reworked. I would save any main effects or routing as a back up on another drive, but your scenes and library shouldn't be entirely wiped.

[@jani93_]

Title song please? 🙏

[@jonathanmartin41]

Holy Forever by Chris Tomlin

[@Firetracks]

Love how y’all got it right at the source! Can’t polish✨a turd!💩

[@tekis0]

The bass drum mics sounded like they might be "out of phase." Maybe check the polarity? Sounding very good otherwise!

[@jthunderbass1]

Maybe it’s just me, but it sounds like alike you have tremendous compression that’s bringing up the noise floor. All I hear is a massive wash of background noise. Maybe I’m wrong.

[@alexleebataller]

Haha! it’s definitely not a ballad. It’s a live mix with a crowd, so you’ll hear a lot more background noise in the vocal microphones.

[@joshuaperry2789]

You WANT the microphone to touch your lips? 🤢 I’m sure you know how much of other people’s spit gets trapped in those things 🤢🤢🤢

[@alexleebataller]

Ha! You may be right, but it’s mostly a figure of speech. However we do disinfect our mics so they are pretty germ free. 😂