Belief, Faith, and the Church Sex Scandal (Pt. 1) | Bishop Barron | SPIRITUALITY | Rubin Report

Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to Bishop Barron (Auxiliary Bishop of Archdiocese of LA) about religion, his belief and faith, the child sex scandal that rocked the Catholic church, and more.
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[@edwardarnautovic6948]

Ex-muslim here and a follower of Jesus Christ now!

[@james-ch]

@@amanda.collaud if anyone's a false christian, it's you

[@AJ12-76]

Amanda why are you here on this channel?? You do realize the Catholic Church was founded by Christ right? Apparently you think some Protestant cult is the one true church. Read the Bible.

[@followersofyeshuahamashiac462]

Edward Arnautovic thats AWESOME!! Definitely look up the Bible Project podcast/videos amazing ministry that truly helps you to understand each book in the Bible and helps explain the Truth. When your ready for more Dr. Michael Heiser is an Ancient Near East and Biblical Hebrew Scholar who has a podcast called The Naked Bible. The Bible unfiltered or with out "tradition " Hopefully this will help. I know from my own walk both have made me dig deeper and find the truth. And its AMAZING 😁😁

[@littleboots9800]

@@amanda.collaud You liked your own comment, didn't you?

[@jesussotelo4775]

@@amanda.collaud I used to he like you,then I did some research on church history and the church fathers and to my shock the early church fathers like polycarp who was taught by the original apostles who were taught by Jesus Christ himself were all from the catholic faith. Now I'm on my way home please I implore you ,sola scripura is a false doctrine which is why there are over 30,000 denomination all claiming to have the correct interpretation of the the bible and that's how we got Jehovah witness and the mormons.

[@nathanhirst97]

This man is an example of religion gone right

[@splinterbyrd]

Well he's certainly not Left

[@emmashalliker6862]

He's not right wing.

[@DMServant]

@@splinterbyrdhe ain’t affiliated with any political party. He affiliates with the church’s teaching.

[@nathanielberry4965]

As an atheist, I still have nothing but respect for men like Bishop Barron.

[@sellington100]

Glad to hear that. Have you read “Seven Story Mountain” by Thomas Merton?

[@spiderrico1247]

How can you not respect Bishop Barron??

[@pinkpanther776]

@@spiderrico1247 Nathaniel said he has "...nothing BUT respect for men like Bishop Barron."

[@scooprammer5934]

@@spiderrico1247 i dont, he is part of the problem

[@scooprammer5934]

@@publius1252 my comment is none of those things you said but let me try a bit harder for you :- barron is an expert at talking about what he cannot possibly know, he spews out bs trying to make it sound all intellectual but bs it still is. And the organisation that pays for his life has produced more sex abuse victims than any other organisation in recorded history, by far. The churches policy of moving paedophiles to new areas, bullying victims and putting the church reputation before stopping rapists and protecting children is disgusting. So my friend let the catholic church die out which it will, eventually. Ffs nuns killed babies in Ireland. Today, do we need the catholic church/barron something born from mans mind and ignorance and the church has been consistently wrong in its ever changing interpretation of the bible and what god wants. I feel sorry for jesus, he was practicing jew, thats how jesus lived yet christianity ignores that and makes it own rules up, its pathetic. Maybe barron should try a proper job instead of walking around dressed like an arse leaving a verbal trail of bollocks wherever he goes.

[@MaryJaneOctane]

As a catholic, I can totally relate to questioning your faith. Thanks for interviewing a man of the cloth, Dave. Just another reason why I respect you so much!

[@danieljackson3619]

Wow, I wasn't expecting this. Dave has such a huge variety of people on his show, making it clear he isn't just trying to cater to one audience.

[@MrDyl666]

Daniel Jackson that's why Dave is great. He's not an echo chamber of 1 opinion repeated

[@karlmarx809]

Daniel Jackson He needs more SJWs. He should get Ta Nehisi Coates on. Preferably with Larry Elder, hah!

[@Coy4173]

Problem is Troy apparently a lot of the SJWs turn down the offer because they think Dave's to the right or they can't really back their position when asked about it.

[@afarm39]

That's the problem with the regressive left. They are so far left that even someone who is a liberal looks like someone on the right.

[@danieljackson3619]

***** A quick perusal of your google+ profile shows me you're just another one of those arrogant, uninformed atheistic assholes that I deal with weekly. That however was already obvious when you compared belief in God to a schizophrenic person believing there's people waiting to murder you outside. In other words, you think religion is a mental illness, how original. You rejoice at more and more people losing their faith, but if they're turning into people like you, I cannot see how that could in any way be a good thing.

[@mattcurry6850]

Bishop Barron has a true gift. Non confrontational, balanced, intellectual beyond most, truly reverend. An open mind and a committed voice for peace, tolerance and love.

[@andrewf.castaneda4695]

There's a time to become confrontational for example when Rubin interviewed Barron on Gay Marriage, for the bishop to have stated that he would NOT strive to change Gay Marriage as determined by SCOTUS; he failed as far as I'm concerned!

[@KingoftheSlavs]

Today I had my Confirmation and Dave invite's a Catholic priest on the show. Is this a sign from God lol.

[@tkunzy3707]

Or simply a coincidence :P

[@PonderingThought-ke6qb]

KrólMaciuśPierwszy-KingoftheSlavs I remember my confirmation. My confirmation saint was Padre Pio. I'm actually surprised that Rubin has an audience members in early to mid teens. You're going places

[@KingoftheSlavs]

In my country we have our Confirmation mid to late teens but thanks for the complement anyway :P. And if your wondering my patron Saint is Jerome.

[@lawdogattorneyatlaw4886]

Mine was Pio as well

[@aileenbordelon7884]

Mine's going to be Saint John the Evangelist.

[@WeirdEducator]

Bishop Barron does a wonderful job sharing our Catholic faith with a world that is increasingly unfamiliar with our Church.

[@lobsterbobable]

Not true. We are learning daily about the child rape factory that is the Catholic church. It's disgusting and you should quit because you are feeding and paying and defending babyrapers. You are as much to blame as they are. Quit.

[@erathor9120]

@@amanda.collaud Hey there. I would really wait before saying the mother of God allmighty is just an ordinary woman. The Hail Mary Prayer is the fulfillment of what mary fortold herself. This prayer is straight out of scripture: Luke 1:28 "And he [the angel Gabriel] came to her [Mary] and said, 'Greetings, favored one! The Lord is with you.'" Luke 1:41-42 "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the child leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and exclaimed with a loud cry, 'Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb.'" After wards in the prayer we plead for her intercession to her son. Which is part of jewish tradition. Where the mother of the king was always highly venerated and asked for the favor of her son. Luke 1:48 “For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.” Have you called that woman blessed yet? Don't you want to become part of her prophecy? God bless.

[@Againstfascist]

@@lobsterbobable Were you abused? If so, I'm sorry.

[@youkokun]

As a millennial woman who reconciled to Catholicism in 2013, I'm so ecstatic to see Mr. Rubin interview one of the figures who helped me along the journey. It means so much to me that you hear out even those you could easily dismiss as the enemy.

[@nickj5451]

Praised be Jesus Christ, forever and ever!

[@myopenmind527]

youkokun what does "reconciled to Catholicism mean"?

[@colin4758]

I believe it means she either re-joined Catholicism or converted to it.

[@punkfanatic82]

My father did the same thing. He spent most of his school years including college in a seminary but lost the calling after graduating. After his brother passed he seemed to find religion again and dove in head first, which I appreciate seeing. Even though I am an atheist I appreciate the things that come from religion.

[@2009glories]

You read the bible but choose to ignore what Jesus says about His body and Blood : kzbin.info/www/bejne/kISwkoRpd8t_ec0 I see you did not understand that Jesus is in the confessional and you are not confessing to the priest but to "Jesus Himself". What protestant who so loves Jesus would not give all they have to tell Jesus, in person, they are sorry for their sins and get special graces and blessings for taking the time to make this special meeting. (I mean, seriously, if you did something to hurt someone, would you just say you are sorry without meeting them in person to tell them?) You kind of missed that, when you "used to be Catholic" and you also missed that the mass readings "is the bible" and "Jesus is present" in case you want to ask questions. You kind of missed that monks gave their lives to hand write and preserve the bible so that all the world, protestants included, could read the bible today. Also, the priest sacrifices his life so you can have the Words of the bible, in "Jesus' Presence", every single day of your life if you choose, not just one day or in some bible study. You can't get a more personal relationship with Jesus than in the Catholic Church.

[@tfernn]

I love Catholicism 💙

[@erathor9120]

@@amanda.collaud Jesus loves him, he died for him.

[@james-ch]

@@amanda.collaud maybe your jesus, but not ours

[@Nimbereth]

@@amanda.collaud Where is Sola Scripture in the bible?

[@AJ12-76]

Nimbereth exactly it’s not. It was written by a stupid outcast of the church Martin Luther. He was more a heretic than a “reformer”

[@littleboots9800]

@@amanda.collaud Shouldn't you be picketing soldiers funerals with the Westboro Baptist Church or something?

[@eatgrass123]

As a conservative Catholic and someone who disagrees with Rubin on almost everything politically, I have to say I love his interviews and he has a great personality. It's nice to see liberal journalists who actually care about diversity of thought and who aren't walking around trying to be offended all day. Good job, Rubin!

[@troychavez]

Because he is not a regressive liberal, he is an actual liberal

[@eatgrass123]

@@troychavez exactly. In other words, not a modern-day liberal (leftist) but a classical liberal.

[@EscapingAtheism]

Fantastic conversation!

[@danieljackson3619]

Escaping Atheism Just subscribed to you.

[@onlinealiasuk]

I am intrigued I have subscribed and will come back to hear more later

[@Ahmad-hy6pc]

tj will take a shit on you.

[@sparkomatic]

Bishop Barron is a brilliant evangelist. Much love to him. And Mr. Rubin is a shining example for all in the media. Great job!

[@raimethefumeknight2062]

sparkomatic Not an evangelist, he's Catholic, evangelists are protestants

[@sparkomatic]

Raime The Fume Knight not true www.wordonfire.org/resources/blog/bishop-barrons-top-10-resources-on-evangelism-and-catechesis/5325/

[@marcj2551]

Raime The Fume Knight I think you mean Evangelical.

[@brucebooher2288]

I was away from the church for 45 years. I would have come back years earlier had I had access to Bishop Barron.

[@2009glories]

You read the bible but choose to ignore what Jesus says about His body and Blood : kzbin.info/www/bejne/kISwkoRpd8t_ec0 I see you did not understand that Jesus is in the confessional and you are not confessing to the priest but to "Jesus Himself". What protestant who so loves Jesus would not give all they have to tell Jesus, in person, they are sorry for their sins and get special graces and blessings for taking the time to make this special meeting. (I mean, seriously, if you did something to hurt someone, would you just say you are sorry without meeting them in person to tell them?) You kind of missed that, when you "used to be Catholic" and you also missed that the mass readings "is the bible" and "Jesus is present" in case you want to ask questions. You kind of missed that monks gave their lives to hand write and preserve the bible so that all the world, protestants included, could read the bible today. Also, the priest sacrifices his life so you can have the Words of the bible, in "Jesus' Presence", every single day of your life if you choose, not just one day or in some bible study. You can't get a more personal relationship with Jesus than in the Catholic Church.

[@djaprildirty]

Rubin you are awesome!!! I love my Catholic Church thank you for having bishop baron on!

[@djaprildirty]

Bigtombowski as they should, it was a really messed up situation. Certain catholic dioceses and priests messed up big time, and should be criticized. But just cause some dioceses messed up does not mean the church as a whole is evil. lol I'm gonna stop talking cause I could go on forever

[@zephyr056]

+Bigtombowski Well Bishop Barron put "church sex scandal" as the headline or title of this video. The church is now trying to turn the sex abuse issue into a winner for themselves. They are telling how bad it was and how hard they are trying to stop it happening and how much they care for the abused children. And the next thing we will know the Catholics will be telling how wonderful the leaders are to repair the damage and they will forget who it was that done the abuse in the first place.

[@agentjs09]

What a strange viewpoint. How can this situation ever be a winner for the Catholic Church? It sounds like you are really reaching here. There are some people outside of the Church who are legitimately concerned about the victims of the sex abuse scandal. Those people are on the same side as those within the church who are just as upset and wanting to make changes to prevent it from happening again. There are others who are not concerned for the victims, but who love that the abuse happened and revel in it, simply because they hate the Catholic Church and want yet another excuse to beat us over the head. It is pretty evident that you are one of the latter.

[@zephyr056]

+agentjs09 The holy leaders had done everything they could to attack the victims and cover it up. It is now that these very leaders are preaching how they care for the victims and are trying to help them. This clearly shows it to be a damage control action. So to limit damage can be seen as a winner. And yes, I do have a hatred for the Catholic leaders. The Catholics do not only specialize in sex abuse. They do other bad things too.

[@zephyr056]

caroline Karungi Yes I accept that priests are brothers, uncles, sons etc and they are real people. But there are issues that make the fact that they are priests, a relevant issue. In many cases it was being a priest that gave them access to the children and as was shown, gave them protection that outside offenders would not have had. I accept that it was a relative small percentage of priests that were to blame for the abuse. But from what I have read it was a huge percentage of the leaders who did the cover ups and allowed it to continue. And I can imagine that there were innocent priests hurt by the situation and were robbed by being restricted or made to feel guilty of having closeness or innocent affection from children.

[@vonneely1977]

A gay Jewish atheist & a Catholic bishop having a nice civil conversation. There may be hope for humanity after all. (Also has great potential for a "walk into a bar" joke)

[@RichardOliverWY]

Here, here! Two smart guys being civil. Oh, it is more than like water on a desiccated landscape.

[@Indexanimisermo]

@von neely they can have their convo b/c this Bishop is an "impostor" who does not teach Catholic doctrine but by his conduct teaches against it. He is one of those infiltrators that got into the seminaries. These ones have breached a very sacred trust and I fear for his soul and all those like him...

[@Peteraddavideo]

A Gay Jewish atheist who may be willing to change! So, therefore,​ it does not matter who we are for the present but whom we wish to become within Christ.

[@jennifersypal8085]

Indexanimisermo Lti

[@str.77]

If I were you, Indexandimisermo, I would rather fear for your own soul. (NB. If I was me (which I am), for mine.) There is a honest worker in the Lord's vinyard and you can't suffer that. You must tear down what he tries to build up.

[@lordtomosdecree]

man this conversation is so...damn interesting, love it! cant wait for more

[@RubinReport]

Just wait for part 2. That's where it really get's interesting...

[@GreenGearMood]

You buy the whole seat, but you'll only need THE EDGE! * ~ * ~ The Rubin Report ~ * ~ *

[@umejiaku6]

....Yup...it's a job...needs clicks to keep doing it.

[@nikolaibreckenridge2287]

Cause he owes you, right?

[@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns]

where was it? before.

[@nickj5451]

Praised be Jesus and Mary! So pleased to see many non-Catholics happily listening to Bishop Barron and not defensively. Rarely does anyone convert over a single conversation, so whether or not they agree, I am just happy that they listened. Debates are good, but I could hardly expect anyone to believe without sincerely attempting to pray, with at least an attitude of "Well, IF this is true, then I should know it." Experience proves what reason alone will never prove. Anyone can get frustrated that its a bad argument, a non-argument, poor logic, a cop-out or whatever. But no, it is not an argument; it's a recommendation, if you want to know! Take it or leave it! God bless these two and their listeners!

[@mensmans9241]

He kind of reminds me of a vicar that ran the church in my town a few years back. I'm an atheist myself but often talked to the guy as I lived opposite the church and he was always up for a chat. He even visited when my daughter was born, never ever trying to convert me. He was a fascinating guy to talk to.

[@christianalmli9085]

This is why intellectual diversity is the only form of diversity worth cherishing.

[@InnisReturns]

FINALLY a sophisticated theist is on the show. I've been seeing nothing but fedoras on here when it comes to religion on this show. We need more theistic intellectuals like this to mix things up. Get Dr. William Lane Craig on and Dr. David Bentley Hart on here too!

[@ThePharphis]

WLC isn't sophisticated. he's a professional debater that admits that facts are irrelevant and that personal revelation (his only) trumps everything else.

[@InnisReturns]

ThePharphis WLC is sophisticated. He's got 2 doctorates, writes many books with credible publishers and peer-reviewed academic articles. No offense but you probably just think of him as a debater because you just watch a lot of youtube videos about him, but real research shows he's more than just a debater.

[@ThePharphis]

Real research with hardly any citations. He's made his motivations and reasoning clear in his book reasonable faith and his dishonesty clear in his debates.

[@InnisReturns]

ThePharphis By your standards? Or the standards of Oxford University Press? Because by the likes of Oxford and such he's got enough real research and citations to get published by them. He's got enough to have 2 doctorates and years of peer-reviewed research. Where's your 2 doctorates and stack of publications from peer-reviewed journals and book publishers...? Perhaps the guy who has spent decades researching and debating theism vs. atheism would be a great pick to have a more sophisticated dialogue on the matter. You can disagree with him, but it's pretty undeniable that Dr. Craig would be a step up if Rubin wants to have a more sophisticated dialogue on the matter.

[@ThePharphis]

Innis Returns He isn't willing to have an honest dialogue, though. He has made this clear in his writings. He places faith above anything else and that means above the truth.

[@CarlosRodriguez-dh7mm]

This man speaks from wisdom. I'm personally Protestant, but even though I don't agree with everything he presents, I think everybody from every walk of life could learn a thing or two here.

[@Sebastian-hg3xc]

You'd be wrong. :o)

[@plantmom4909]

I agree Carlos :)

[@TheLikeMike44]

Why So?

[@TiffTheTyrant]

caroline Karungi truth. When you learn the real fundamental reasons for Protestantism it is something I can't agree with whatsoever. I'm in RCIA and now I realize I had NO CLUE what the Catholic Church actually believed until I was in RCIA.

[@TiffTheTyrant]

caroline Karungi haha I know...it was actually astounding how little I knew compared to how much I thought I knew based on vilified judgement about the catholic faith. The more I learned, the more truth was uncovered and I couldn't go back to my former self. It all made sense. It was so humbling and the humility in knowing I know so little about everything is a gift to me if that makes sense. It makes me curious about everything in life now and I look at life with a different lens.

[@marcj2551]

Hey it's Bishop Barron on the Rubin Report! I've met him many times, especially altar served at mass with him three times. He came to my High School.

[@jims512]

"Though hast made us for they self, O Lord, and our hearts are restless until they rest in thee." - St. Augustine

[@TheSPACEDIEVEST1]

God bless you Bishop Barron

[@andypandy6719]

Wow. I'm not religious in any way, but I really enjoyed listening to this discussion. Thanks, Dave.The world needs more people like you.

[@jamaicanification]

So I live in a couple of worlds right now. I'm a liberal and progressive who's followed TYT for a long time and know Dave Rubin through that even though he has left and followed everything since. I'm also a Christian and I have followed Bishop Barron's youtube stuff for almost 7 to 8 years. I never expected both worlds to come together here. Wow I'm surprised this interview is even happening.

[@xtusvincit5230]

I could have written your comment myself. My separate world came crashing together in this interview. I was shocked to see this happen. I also am glad that many who would never have heard of Bishop Barron get a chance to hear him. He may convince no one. But, it is good that people can see that very intelligent and and educated people can have faith.

[@myopenmind527]

Nicholas still it's bests to believe things that are true.

[@jos_meid]

+My OpenMind Absolutely. Like the teachings of the Catholic Church.

[@jamesnubz]

as an atheist, have to say I'm slightly impressed

[@RoyKoopaling]

JustAPerson You know, I liked him. And I liked this interview. But I wasn't swayed. I don't feel threatened by religion anymore, as I did when it still had real influence in our society. So I'm able to be open minded and let my defences down, but there are just too many holes in his arguments. I was impressed by the man's personality, but not by his arguments.

[@interstice8638]

Chríss M Agreed, he is obviously intelligent and articulate, but a lot of what he was actually saying had no real weight to it. The "leap of faith" disregards the need for logical explanation replacing it with "just trust me lol", and of course if you're willing to do that, you're willing to believe anything that comes next. To say that people with no faith can't live as fulfilling lives is insane and it implies that he has a quantitative measure of life fulfilment.

[@ClassicalTheist]

Interstice Well, keep in mind, he didn't have time to articulate beyond his argument form contingency to further arguments great philosophers and theologians have put forward for, say, the Incarnation. Such arguments do exist and I'd encourage you to look deeper into these. The argument from contingency isn't the only argument for God's existence either. There's the argument from change, from being and essence, from efficient causality, among many, many others. This was just a foretaste and not meant to be an impenetrable defense, but like an Abstract you'd read on the front of a paper

[@interstice8638]

If you can find holes in the abstract of a paper, it speaks volumes about what you would find within its body. Most of what I see are just the "god of the gaps" arguments. The unknown should remain unknown until it can be proven, and to fill it with a best guess based on an ancient manuscript that has been translated poorly is anti-scientific, and impedes discovery. Objective moralities can be found in secular philosophy, there is no need for religion in modern times.

[@RoyKoopaling]

Alex Wallo But Alex, Thomas Aquinas is often regarded as the best if not one of the best theological philosophers of all time, and well, I honestly think looking at it objectively, all of his arguments have been soundly rebutted by other philosophers.

[@mattdasher8586]

This guy was once the priest at my church when I was a kid. His church was Sacred Heart in Winnetka.

[@invidious07]

This guy is Christianity at its best. If church was even half as good as this I would actually go.

[@NBarker1993]

All people should go not for other people, or things, or to change anything externally. But to humble oneself before the Lord God and ask for His mercy. Changing oneself spiritually that will manifest itself in normal everyday life is the key. The bar for this is high as the Bishop explains, but is set high for a reason and should always be striven for

[@raimethefumeknight2062]

GGodHand May the God Hand bless you with a fist bump

[@eurly93]

It isn't the original pre-denominational Church, the Orthodox church is. The catholic church split from the church in 1054 when the Catholic church wanted the bishop of Rome to have universal jurisdiction (ie. the pope) along with disagreements over the source of the Holy Spirit. So you could actually argue that the Catholic church is the FIRST denominational church.

[@Ryan-co9xc]

Paul D. You couldn't have said it any better. Христос васкрсе!

[@tonystark8757]

Paul D. Then where is the rock that Christ built the church? Is it the Patriarch of Alexandria? Constantinople? Moscow? Nope. Christ gave that authority to one man, Peter, not one of the other apostles. Therefore his is the one office that is the rock upon which the church rests, and no amount of Patriarchs can hold that same authority. Hence why the councils of the Eastern Churches have constantly failed and the Eastern Communion is full of confusion on who's part of it and who's not.

[@casper9597]

Bishop Barron is my hero in modern evangelization and defending the Catholic faith. I have learned plenty from him. God bless him.

[@BorisMiljkovic]

Your guest inspired me more to pursue science than Neil Tyson. Amazing person!!!

[@joshuawashington758]

I'm more of a Pentecostal /Kierkegaardian Christian with a few reformed leanings. Many of the Catholic thinkers (especially Chesterton) have always seemed interesting to me.Dave, I'm glad you actually got Bishop Barron on your show. I've seen a couple of his lectures on Aquinas. He's a pretty good thinker.

[@vincentsheehan3193]

I can listen to Bishop Barron all day - a great Christian communicator.

[@Boletodecinecom2011]

Bishop Barron is not only a very intelligent pastor but he is very wise as well. I like his videos a lot. God bless Bishop.

[@BrendanBeckett]

Robert Barron is my favourite religious intellectual. I've been subscribed to him on KZbin for over 10 years as a stone cold atheist.

[@scarboroughstudio]

Brendan Beckett your post was quoted in the introduction of Barron's new book. ✊

[@catholicspaniard8796]

@@scarboroughstudio Hey, that is right! I just read that book with the interview with Allen, and this comment was featured there. NIce!

[@KunalBajpaiKanpur]

The best part of Rubin Report is nobody shouts.

[@borisvandruff7532]

Kunal Bajpai This comment didn’t age well. Blaire White vs. Candace Owens, anyone?

[@Camilingue3]

Just when I thought to myself " I haven't seen Dave's show in a long time let me see what he's up to" and the first thing I see is him interviewing Bishop Barron wich is one of my faves catholic intelectuals of the 21st century. Dave you are the best honestly thank you so much for not being afraid to show all points of view all arguments inviting people of all beliefs whether it be political, religious etc for this I am fangirling seeing two of my faves :) Keep up the good work. -Your catholic number 1 fan😂👐

[@madonnahurchla1938]

Bishop Barron approaches faith with a philosophy that most can relate to. Love the interviews

[@djaprildirty]

His contingency argument was pretty convincing

[@jacobarrowood3587]

Inb4 triggered atheists

[@JBlackjackp]

I count 5 "the catholic church rapes children" comments I assume that is the banner they are marching under.

[@GreatestGamer9000]

Jacob Arrowood where? many are quite surprised to see a bishop on rubin's show since rubin is an atheist

[@brianward6291]

^ 100% correct! LOL!

[@danieljackson3619]

Ryan Bland Look again. I've seen many. Comments equating religion with magic, saying Barron's delusional, that he'd be destroyed in an argument with Hitchens or Harris, and on and on. I'm gonna edit in everything else I noticed; "Religion is a mental illness." "This guy [the bishop] is a piece of shit." "Bored of his babbling." "Imaginary friend." "Imaginary deity." "I tried listening but couldn't help thinking BULLSHIT." "What is this tool?" "The mental gymnastics he does is amusing." "Religion is so fucking stupid. Any half witted atheist could destroy this clown in a debate." "This guy is overflowing with bullshit." "No kicking Bishop Barron up the arse? Shame." Keep in mind, these are all from different commenters.

[@Sebastian-hg3xc]

To be honest I'm a little sad about this guest because I've heard all of his arguments before. So most of the conversation is pretty boring and sometimes a little frustrating, because Dave doesn't push back against his arguments, which is just his usual style. I don't think pointing out fallacies in his arguments counts as being triggered, but I understand that it's *in* now to deflect criticism of SJW onto regular people, even if it doesn't quite fit them. So I guess have fun with the accusations.

[@sharvaree19]

Thankyou Dave Rubin. You are essential to the preservation of sanity in the world.

[@nicksterwixter]

Bishop Baron is one of the best representatives of Catholicism on the planet. Very, very happy you had him on Dave! Great discussion.

[@TheCharlesagain]

Bishop Barron rocks. A mix of Bishop Fulton Sheen and St. Patrick, with Aquinas thrown in.

[@maryangelica5319]

Holy crap you got Bishop Barron?!!! That's freaking awesome!

[@Pilkie101]

A bishop? Finally somebody whom I can agree with. Right wing Christian conservative here and yuge Bernie guy!

[@Pilkie101]

evilmanimani #openminded

[@grazenevan6970]

Pilkie101 Cognitive dissonance alert

[@Pilkie101]

Evan Adamou For you? Lulz

[@toahordika6]

I'm a socially conservative Christian and I liked Bernie a lot. I could never support him though because he supports abortion.

[@Pilkie101]

evilmanimani He has compassion, more of which is needed in politics

[@mohamedmuhumedhussein4469]

Raised Muslim. Immediately left that religion when I read the Koran in English and I understood everything about it. Spend a decade in the agnostic secular wilderness but it was the Catholic faith that brought me back to the (real) God. My understanding of the true world would be something like these two decent men conversing. Unconditional Love is the ultimate truth. Thanks Rubin and Bishop Barron.

[@aidaruilova140]

Bishop Barron is wonderful! One of the greatest theologians/thinkers of our time! #Truth

[@rivinish]

Bishop Barron! What a lovely surprise! If someone isn't familiar with his work on KZbin, you should definitely check out his channel. Very interesting perspectives on culture, film, religious and secular literature.

[@kayseeff]

I love Bishop Barron's channel! So glad you had him on

[@JurkusMartynas]

I'm just happy to see people in the comments discussing religion sanely and not shouting at one another. That's why more theologians like Bishop Barron should be doing interviews like this one.

[@rohinimalhotra6931]

I so LOVE to listen to Bishop Barron. Ours is a reasonable faith...and he is soooo enthusiastic!! And learned...

[@katieehalt1738]

THANK YOU for interviewing Bishop Barron. :) I definitely like and respect your show even more than I already did before.

[@maryarchived]

i love bishop barron! my school shows his videos on theology/doctrine. your guests are so diverse and i appreciate it

[@virginiaechaluce3646]

My faith will not be changed no matter what I was born as catholic families,until I died I remained the follower of Christ.I loved Bishop Robert Baron show especially the Catholicism.Thank you.

[@erosmangr74]

I was a believer for a decade and a half, and explored much theology along the way. It is the theistic view that is empoverished and which moves in circles; when I embraced the natural world, it was so much more beautiful and complex than before. As a believer, I hit the wall of what could be known countless times, but now, there is always more to be known, and no walls.

[@mansonandsatanrock]

I respect Dave Rubin, for having an entire bunch of different people on. He is truly about free speech, and ideas, I see.

[@FreedomToons]

WHAT? YOU GOT BARRON?

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

FreedomToons love your videos man! So happy to find a Catholic animator on KZbin!

[@goaltender330]

I love your videos man keep it up. Not quite as Libertarian as you but I love the content. Catholics unite!

[@LauraBeeDannon]

tim spangler hey fancy meeting you here tim..lol

[@RGTomoenage11]

tim spangler Tim, come home already. We love you.

[@flamemojis]

Carsonian The Great adam4d goes in tho

[@asoaresjr]

Much respect for Dave and his way of conducting a poignant, yet very respectful, interview. Bishop Barron is one of the best communicators in the Catholic Church today. A true example of how living what you preach is contagious and transforming.

[@Glowwriter]

The quote is "I am who AM," not "who I am." Those are two very diffferent things. ILY, Bishop Barron! Thanks, Dave, for having such a great light on your show!

[@dumms9181]

I'm glad to see a very civil discussion between two people with very different opinions. Very interesting and engaging and make me think more about my beliefs. Both of them were great in this show and was very enjoyable, I hope to see more stuff like this soon. Keep up the good work!

[@visvamba]

This is the kind of open-ended, open-minded dialogue we need today.

[@thomasulrich8690]

Dave Rubin and Bishop Barron are an example of how to have an intelligent, engaging conversation with someone that has completely different opinions yet can be respectful and not yelling past each other. CNN/Fox, etc can learn a ton from this interview.

[@henry3613]

Bishop Robert Barron is such a great guy!

[@lars526]

THANK YOU for putting this man on your show. He's fucking brilliant.

[@mrsomeone846]

Wow my priest is so boring compared to this guy, also can you bring on Dave Cullen from Computing Forever?

[@MrDyl666]

Mr Someone this guy backs up his beliefs with knowledge Proves that religious people can be educated and not base everything off the old book I might be agnostic but I do enjoy religious people like this bishop Think he's the future of organised religion

[@crazyprayingmantis5596]

Vasilije Injac Congratulations, you're the only person in history to find the overwhelming evidence that Christianity is true. I've got a question for you. What is God?

[@danieljackson3619]

Crazy prayingmantis "The only person in history to find overwhelming evidence that Christianity is true." Nice demonstrably false claim you made there. So much for atheists caring about evidence. How many people would you like me to cite in refutation of your claim? 1? 10? 100? 1,000? There are innumerable people out there who found "overwhelming evidence for Christianity", you just don't accept it as such.

[@ewanrobertson9524]

if there is overwhelming evidence, tell me what it is

[@JRLeeman]

Mr Someone please, god no, not that douchebag. He already has had Sargon of Akkad, that's more than enough in the way of narcissists whose sole validity in their intellectual contributions come from the fact that they have a large following

[@problematic7993]

Being anti-religious is immature.

[@agentjs09]

Apparently in today's culture it makes you "intellectual."

[@jesussotelo4775]

@@agentjs09 lol most new atheist are intellectually lazy and lack basic abilitie to utilize the laws of logic.

[@johnspinelli9396]

Exactly, I dont have a problem with atheists or secular people but I dont get why they generally hate religion

[@BlueMoonHoax]

I loved this. I'm a Christian and I love everything about your show, Dave, and this was a wonderful interview. Much love.

[@jaycully7736]

Good for you Dave continuing to interview people with vast differences in opinion in politics, religion, values to the benefit of everyone..well done!

[@StJoseph777]

Bishop Barron is like the new Fulton Sheen! He's awesome!

[@andrewf.castaneda4695]

You're really stretching it, Fulton Sheen, when he completes canonization, hw will have earned it.

[@karsyjames1081]

Truly! We thank the good Lord for him sharing his gift of wisdom.

[@Bardi1717]

This is great, an interviewer that gets the best out of his guest by sensible questions instead of being obnoxious and insulting.

[@JesusPedroza]

Hahaha! Highlight quote: "No man of God should be on the comments section of KZbin" - Dave Rubin. Glad to see His Excellency, Bishop Barron on other people's shows. Happy to see people who are so different with different beliefs have awesome conversations. Thanks Dave Rubin for having His Excellency on your show!

[@Chris-qi1uh]

Really cool interview. Check out his series titled Catholicism. It blew me away at a time when my faith in God was at an all time low a few years back in my early 20s.

[@kingxerocole4616]

I had exactly the same experience as this Bishop when I was 14. I was confirmed into the Catholic Church, and then finally started wondering more about it. I discovered youtube debates, the Four Horsemen, and 4chan. I knew I was either gonna become a priest or an atheist. I think a lot of other atheists are the same. We were swayed by arguments.

[@kingxerocole4616]

I was swayed long before memes were called memes, long before rage comics and r/atheism. I was swayed by debate, literature, and introspection.

[@kingxerocole4616]

It was 11 years ago, so I don't exactly remember. I think I was the only one in my friends group who was super interested in the subject. Eventually I got to college and found some likeminded friends but also found super religious friends and everyone in between.

[@kingxerocole4616]

But I can say I was raised very religious by devout Catholic parents. I got into many debates with my father, but he respected my own views. Point being: I had no social pressure to become religious or irreligious, I was just swayed toward the direction of being a non-believer through my own research and study. Like I said, I was so invested in my pursuit that I was either going to become a priest or an atheist.

[@kidart89]

I had a similar experience, too. I remember questioning, watching KZbin debates, going through internet forums, listening to the Four Horsemen, etc. Now I'm a seminarian lol. (And I have to say, Bishop Barron's work had a lot to do with my quest, so I'm really happy to see him have a conversation with one of internet's greatest guys :) )

[@kidart89]

I had a similar experience, too. I remember questioning, watching KZbin debates, going through internet forums, listening to the Four Horsemen, etc. Now I'm a seminarian lol. (And I have to say, Bishop Barron's work had a lot to do with my quest, so I'm really happy to see him have a conversation with one of internet's greatest guys :) )

[@lerrato6027]

I love the Rubin Report because its one of the only places you can see someone discussing opinions with people of all beliefs.

[@tokillthedragon]

I love Dave Rubin and I love Bishop Barron but I never expected the two of them to cross paths. This is great.

[@Triadus56]

Oh man, this bishop needs to do a show with Stefan Molyneux. "The middle ground is having a good argument" is straight up his alley.

[@Tyler_W]

Triadus56 and unlike a lot of the absolutely wonderful people on here, Molyneux is an atheist (I think more of an agnostic if we're being honest) who actually has an intellectual curiosity about these sorts of things and isn't a total dick about the fact they're intellectually superior by virtue of the fact he doesn't believe in a God, at least he isn't now because he definitely was a few years ago.

[@nohbdy2325]

Man, Bishop Barron really gets into the good stuff at 8:00.

[@FishBallista]

This guy is a top tier sophist. Honestly these arguments are really powerful if you want to convince someone without having to be correct.

[@kenvee9446]

Bishop Barron is the sort of Catholic thinker more Catholics need to emulate. He has an idea or two in his cannon that require continued discussion and definition, but he is generally a great rep for the Church. Faith and reason together are very attractive.

[@truegirl2anna]

love love LOVED this!! Very eye opening!!

[@mcurcio8315]

I love being catholic❤️

[@spiderrico1247]

Thank you Father Barron,, your humility and selflessness attracted me to seek once again a relationship with Jesus ,,, coming from a recovering Addict,,,it's vital to form a relationship with ur higher power,,, you've helped me with that,, thanks again Bishop Barron

[@LarryReynolds591]

Bishop Barron is the best!! Glad you could get him on!

[@Nimbereth]

I love being Catholic.

[@daveedzee]

Wow Rubin. What an amazing interview and guest. This is why I subscribe.

[@Joe-pe6qi]

Holy fuck! Barron is someone I did not expect to see on the Rubin Report. Glorious!

[@susanburrows810]

Disgusting...you. Sinful, unrepentant, presumptuous. You need Jesus, his forgiveness & besutiful life of caring about others, his wisdom, insight, dignity, humility, and self- control.❤❤❤

[@Caritasaveritas]

Awww...there you go, again, Bishop Barron. I start the year off with Thomas Aquinas’s five proofs for the existence of God. Your talk directly coincides with the opening of the school year. Thank you🍃 Thank you💗 Thank you🍃 You are the grapes 🍇 Better with time.

[@DinoCon]

I've been a fan of Bishop Barron for a while. I HIGHLY recommend everyone here check out his channel. Some of THE best and most insightful movie reviews you will ever see on KZbin.

[@2ndai385]

If only more people could sit down talk.

[@lindareid841]

Dear Bishop Barron, I am SO with you in Spirit! Your intelligent and heartfelt and grounded answers to the questions posed were so appealing to people of genuine spiritual pursuit. Of course, the non-believers will bash you because they have closed their hearts and are satisfied with the things of earth. But you have spoken true, in conjunction with the great minds of our tradition!! Thank you for your presence on social media.

[@joeythemonk007]

This is a very civil and great discussion. I appreciate Dave Rubin for asking very honest questions with an intention to let the ideas out rather than to corner the other person. Bp. Barron is a passionate witness to the gospel. There's always the question of why I need God, if I can be a good person and if I am satisfied with my life. You can understand the position of Bp. Barron and other Christians, if you understand their basic strong faith that our life on earth is just the preparation and the beginning of life eternal; that humans are not created for a very insignificant span of 80 or 90 years; that what doesn't last doesn't matter much. Our death is compared to our birth, when the child would have felt like dying and being thrown out of existence from the mother's womb, only to find that being in the womb was just the preparation for life outside the womb. You may not believe in eternal life and judgment. But if you do, then definitely you would want to know who God is and what was His intention in creating you, what account are we to give to the one who made us and to whom we are answerable.

[@jcawalton]

Brilliant.

[@hillarybm92]

If someone has no personal connection with God, he or she most likely won't believe in God, and stay an atheist. You need the personal relationship or emotional connection.

[@npSylarpp]

a monologue is not a relationship

[@biggsydaboss3410]

Ruy Brb0sa You haven't met my wife ;0)

[@garywood97]

So why does God suck at communicating with such a large number of people?

[@hillarybm92]

gary wood what % of people say they have a connection with God and what % say they have none?

[@hillarybm92]

Vasilije Injac knowledge comes from ones experiences as well. not challenging your path, but I don't think most people find God the way you did.

[@tylerdipietro4201]

Dave Rubin is my favorite liberal. Dave Rubin is a charismatic and open minded liberal who even though he has huge disagreements with this man he sat across from him with a smile, heard him out and was fairly respectful. Because there are some liberals( most of them unfortunately) who for whatever reason are so committed to atheism and nihilism and shaming white males who disagree with them like the bishop here or Jordan Peterson that they would treat him like crap but Dave set aside all prejudices and heard him out. That is the sign of a truly intelligent man. God Bless you Dave!

[@JoeyC0914]

I honestly appreciate Dave hosting Bishop Barron. We are all searching for love, happiness and truth. It's amazing to see the grace of God work through people to bridge gaps. In today's society people would rather draw a line in the sand. Good Job Dave and God Bless!

[@landoffireflies2790]

Great vid Dave! Keep up the work of letting different people on your show. You're one of a kind!

[@StickyTank]

bishop makes an enormous mistake: atheists dont stop wondering, they just dont make assumptions without evidence. he jumps to a conclusion that has no basis in fact and is solely derived from a bronze age book. all his arguments kinda went the window at that point. you cant say "well, i dont know so must be god" and be content with that non-answer.

[@ces4621]

Exactly what I was thinking.. He jumps into inserting a deity instead of accepting the truth we simply don't know.

[@mrsomeone846]

StickyTank you've made an assumption and misunderstood his point for a God of the gaps argument to explain things we can't yet explain. He's taking about why things happen and what the purpose is. Science asks "how?" in terms on the process. Religion is about asking "why?" in a more philosophical sense.

[@thatonedude675]

He makes a heavy distinction between wonder in the spiritual and the physical world. No one has evidence for jackshit on what happens after death, so saying that you have evidence of what does and does not exist in death is a backwards thing to say. You know about as much as the religious know, the religious just have a different theory than you do.

[@tkunzy3707]

When there is something you can't explain but need meaning or understanding of why or how, insert God here.

[@karlmarx809]

StickyTank I don't think you understand what "faith" means

[@FPOAK]

Happy to see Bishop Barron on here. I'm not religious, but I really enjoy his channel.

[@johnspinelli9396]

Bishop Barron and Rubin are a power duo