NEW CAMERA! The War Within UI Changes: Everything Coming In 11.0

[@BellularGaming]

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[@chad53773]

Any chance you can provide a link to the Clean Icons Pack? Doesn't seem like anyone can find it.

[@melissa3920]

In the upper-right corner of the spellbook, there is an arrow that will give you the single page style back.

[@darrenzzz426]

I was about to comment this, can't believe they missed it.

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

If it looks the way it does now, that will make me happy.

[@TheRobochicken5494]

@@GoddessPallasAthena it does not and it still fcking blocks your entire UI in the middle

[@GodOfWar05100]

Bro how many times do you use the spell book? Especially since the new talents from where you get 80% of your spells, I only opened the spell book for the dungeon teleports you get from +20 keystones.. and that couldn't have been put on a button also, but I was lazy.

[@TheRobochicken5494]

@@GodOfWar05100 oh you mean the talents interface which ALSO covers your entire screen and makes it aids to configure your UI ?

[@DrunkenPIKEL]

its really feeling like since they moved away from the very large expansion specific systems they have been able to really improve all those rough edges that built up over time.

[@Candlemancer]

Turns out when the technical team aren't wasting their time on dumb throwaway gimmicks nobody likes, they can work on improving the core systems of the game

[@joelhodoborgas]

Yes for sure, those systems probably took a lot of dev time

[@Xero-Space]

​@@Candlemancercan you give examples of these gimmicks

[@DrunkenPIKEL]

@@Xero-Space these systems would be Azerite/Neck/Nyolotha barrowed power form BFA or Legendary weapons you upgraded. and then after the expantion was over these systems were useless. they were uses in WoD, Legion, BFA and Shadowlands.

[@benkelly7182]

@@DrunkenPIKELare you saying they aren’t doing this anymore? I quit playing a couple years ago and haven’t been keeping up

[@UghieYucky]

I think the Purple Quest triangle one should be used for main stories, the core ones of a Campaign. It stands out well enough from everything that it looks important.

[@-.-Monster]

the big orange question mark with the little frills worked well too. not sure why they went with this bricky look for DF

[@GoddessPallasAthena]

I actually could see the darker orange with the decorative border better. In Remists, I kept missing the purple ones because to me, they just didn't stand out and I wasn't used to looking for anything that color. I prefer having a limited number of colors for quests so it's not too cluttered-looking. I think the purple one needs to be bigger or something.

[@CarterArts]

The purple one stands out wayyyy too much in my opinion

[@UghieYucky]

@@CarterArts Thats why it should be for main quests haha

[@tadeasprikryl2407]

yeeees PLEEEEASEEE! this is annoying very much

[@RetroHoodie82]

I think the spacing is perfect with the spell book. Looks cleaner and distinguishable.

[@LedeannaCal]

I wish they would fix the sparkles on quest mobs if you turn highlight off some of us prefer a more immersive style.

[@ZorvaineVonSinius]

Fully Agree on more immersion options

[@DarkScreamGames]

Enjoying immersion means you like reading and thinking, Sadly that means you are no longer the target audience for a lot of the content.

[@ZorvaineVonSinius]

@@DarkScreamGames I get around that by entirely minimalizing my UI and using the ActionCamPlus Addon for a cinematic experience as well as prioritizing ambient sounds over everything else to give Modern WoW close to a Classic WoW feeling

[@SloppyConduct]

​@@ZorvaineVonSinius ACP is such a game changer, I love it.

[@Larindragon]

There is also a 'show silhouette while obscured' option in the combat section of settings. Which will also help a lot with the new camera view and keeping track of your character.

[@WilBgames]

the camera changes are huge. I hate playing zoomed out in a lot of areas because of the clipping

[@DreadedX]

I end up putting my camera more top down (not completely) these days to avoid it but I still died in RLP the other day because of a damn tree!

[@dominiksramko]

I just don't get why they don't make those objects between you and the camera translucent, like plenty other games do.

[@Hawk_R6]

How does the Bloodfang Mother Mount look like in arachnophobia mode?

[@mnkyboy0505]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@chestersayuri2246]

Actually camera change feels game changing as hell. Love it!

[@Dajova]

... which is funny, cus GW2 have had a occlusion slider for years, which lets you directly control what type of model that is gonna be able to control the camera or not, so them just adding a on/off option for that feels a bit late :P

[@pepepicapinto543]

@@Dajova ok

[@no-budhee6657]

@@Dajovayou mean a different game had different features? You don’t say…

[@Dajova]

@@no-budhee6657 That's the point. They used to be the masters of taking a feature from other games and make it even better. Can't remember the last time they did that tho...

[@Demunzz]

​@Dajova can't remember last time? Literally, this expansion dragonriding ur dumb bye

[@Kurnhelios]

I really hope this makes tunnel fights in WSG more bearable lmao

[@alaric3000]

The camera change is good, but we also need to see the outlines of any enemies that are either in combat with the character or even in the vicinity. So that you don't accidentally body pull while not actually having a view of your character.

[@-.-Monster]

this would be very nice. a slight red outline or even on a scale so you can make it very very visible. I know you read these comments blizz. do this one, please.

[@badvf]

isn't this what nameplates are for?

[@Razeki27]

You also need it for things like demon hunters spectral sight.

[@randomhuman19]

where are the settings to make the camera changes. cant find them in the beta anywhere.

[@tipep]

Is it possible to see the silhouette through trees etc.? Would fit well with those camera changes.

[@-.-Monster]

the silhouette thing is going to be a game changer for me. so often i lose track of my character in a fight. Still manage to clear all the stuff but this will make it feel infinitely easier

[@calventine]

Is it not always in the middle of the screen?

[@-.-Monster]

@@calventine in large aoe packs and what not its hard to tell EXACTLY where im standing

[@PixogenPixels]

@@-.-MonsterYou are always in the center of the screen? Even in a pack, you are still in the same spot.

[@-.-Monster]

@@PixogenPixels neat. then this change won't affect you :D

[@Zedman3333]

The purple icon which to me is the most visual appealing “looks important “ they have branded it “not that important “…. Seems strange….it should be the MSQ in my opinion.

[@AVBRIZE]

how do we enable that collision camera thing?? because its not working for me atm

[@hunterlepage]

I wish they would add a quest marker for quests that contribute to "side quest" achievements, like in Shadowlands the Sojourner achievements or like the side storylines in WoD (because its hard to tell whats an important sidequest, a generic one, or a garrison one)

[@hotchrisbfries]

8:30 Setting Pings to "assist only" or leader exists in game right now. I use it all the time in LFR and other pug content. This isn't a TWW only exclusive

[@esnevip]

the fast snapping zoom in is acceptable, the annoyance has always been the SLOW zoom back out again

[@Thrano]

It's a very minor thing, but it irks me that you can no longer shortcut to the dungeon journal by clicking on a raid or dungeon icon on the map. Instead it places a map marker.

[@ATC980]

you missed the most important part, can you see any of the self highlights through trees etc.?

[@chrisk8609]

When questing together, my group of friends always places the old classic target markers over everyone's heads so we can keep up with whos who and where. So any clarification ui changes are awesome imo.

[@mooonpaw]

@Bellular - Ok bud, we're gonna have to have the talk. Just embrace the head you got and get rid of whatever you're trying to do with your hair. You can do it. Have the confidence to be you. No need to hide whatever. Life it too short. Just let it go and drop the worry. :)

[@RyanGrella13]

Any idea if we're able to change the color of our outline? or would that be an unknown add on floating around for that?

[@HeidiBullard]

I like the tooltip feature for the character screen. It will be nice not having to have a spreadsheet or log on to every alt, just to see who does what profession.

[@countryclub1113]

OMG... I was literally not looking forward to this expansion and even considering not playing it because I have a fear and disgust of spiders. I can't really even look at one without feeling like gagging, so I usually skip any spider quests in the game or have to suffer my way through it. I've been doing that for the past 18 years in WoW lol! So, this Arachnophobia mode! THANK YOU SO MUCH BLIZZARD! Now I want to get the expansion and switch that on! What great news!!!

[@CHRSS111]

”There’s the inn, here are our profession trainers and… Oh, here’s a map with all the treasures ”rare” enemies in the area on it…”

[@Away.Aweigh.A.Way.]

It wasn’t clear if this is the case, but I would like the self outline option to be camera dependent. Meaning that in normal situations where I’m just moving through the environment with nothing obstructing my line of sight between the camera and my character, the outline goes away. Instead it would only appear if there was some kind of obstruction, be it a cluster of enemies, characters, or in game options, or if say I have the camera zoomed out a bit and there’s a tree halfway between the camera and my character, then I would see my outline through the tree and know exactly where I am. This is a welcome addition but it seems like it’s either on all the time or off, in which case I’ll likely leave it off.

[@ZackJustGames]

in beta messing around with this stuff. my only concern not mentioned here is that for the aura and target reticle for your character i wish u could change the color of the highlight. i dont have colorblindness but as i aged i noticed some mixtures of colors are hard to see for me.

[@cracklingice]

This is cool - now make it so that trivial things like trees an ceilings don't occlude vision. It's so annoying when some tapestry on the wall or ceiling prevents you from seeing the floor.

[@ecTRICKY]

They need to make the raid markers themselves better, outline on the ground, possibly a vertical line rising up to the icon

[@Jonas.Sargent]

Warband: it would looks so much cooler if they turn the camera into a more frog point of view. As someone who is standing with them. This current view looks to much like the rumble style of small little hero figures you collect. The concept looked much cooler.

[@Jaberdeen]

Can someone point me towards the clean icons pack please?

[@Netskyjke]

The camera and character highlighting option is incredible! Why can't we have the same features in all versions of WoW?

[@noelheesen]

the UI change we really need is horizontal nameplate stacking like it used to be pre BFA., (edit: pre SL, so BFA included)

[@andresv.9365]

I remember in WotLK a raid mate could never join us for Maexxna in Naxxramas because it triggered his arachnophobia hard, to the point it was unbearable to him to play there. The Arachnophobia mode is an amazing idea.

[@taederias1804]

At the same time, it feels… weird, to have that there specifically? Like, there must be people afraid of tight spaces… or large open spaces and great heights… or dead and/or rotting bodies in particular, of which there are a ton in certain areas. I suppose it must be common enough to maybe present a noticeable problem (?), but on its own, it seems like one specific thing among many possibilities being singled out and put among settings that have little to do with it.

[@Leichtzumerken]

@@taederias1804 I second this. I have a Phobia myself and avoiding your irrational fear is a very unhealthy way to deal with that.

[@FAILoZOFF]

sounds a lot like he just didn't need/wanted anything from this bose rather than imaginery phobia.

[@michaelbitzer7295]

​@@taederias1804 it seems more like an experiment to me. Them testing new tech for large scale model replacement and for them to gather data on accessibility features like this.

[@NevilleTheWizard]

What about if you are afraid of spiders and crabs? It oh… lol

[@llynellyn]

Hang on, so Naxxramas now has an optional CRAB WING!?! Bring it on :D

[@sleepingcolossus]

9:46 "Now you're going to be able to collect appearances for all classes & armor types" Are you sure about classes? If I remember correctly, during the War Within Deep Dive panel they mentioned that class specific gear will only be collectable by that specific class. ie Only my Hunter can collect Giantstalker's Gloves for example. Did this change during the beta?

[@Candlemancer]

Class specific raid gear is probably still locked, but you can collect items your class can't use and view everything you've unlocked for a different class. Also there are class-neutral lookalike pieces for a lot of tier sets that unlock the tier piece appearance for all classes of that armour type, so you will be able to collect some of another class' set.

[@sleepingcolossus]

@@Candlemancer I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

[@hceruz]

Blizzard should allow players to customize the position of weapons on their backs based on their preferences and the needs of their character models to avoid clipping problems

[@JebesNikove]

I am always super excited about UI and QoL updates :D

[@pastpresentfutureTV]

When watching the Blizcon tournament, it has orange circles under the characters indicating opposite team which makes it much easier to locate your enemy while ZOOM at max camera! Why can’t they do that for arenas!?

[@MostCoolestName]

pretty good stuff, an update to spell icons would indeed be nice

[@305c5]

So now that one toon can collect all transmog appearances, what's going to stop anyone from needing every item in raids? Especially casual players who do lfr, are they removing the roll system? I'm confusion

[@JohnMcBeth-t8n]

I old. But the character silhouette options will make raids easier for me to keep track of my location and focus.

[@JurjenRozeboom]

Hi man. Do you have a actual gameroom tour on KZbin?

[@AndreasMnck]

Next thing they need to do is combine the quest log across characters.

[@Just_jarmo]

The new spell book looks awesome. I find it to be a perfect upgrade as is, the spacing is not a problem for me

[@thenjry]

God, these look so good. Also, can these along with so many other gameplay-neutral, purely win-win UI/UX updates and upgrades get ported over to Classic, please? For instance, retail's click casting interface. No one has a good faith reason to believe stuff like that degrades Classic. Get it done!

[@LemurFrenzy212]

Some really nice changes here, less map clutter makes me happy.

[@mazz85-]

Was it Fallout Tactics camera that just showed thru walls and objects when char was in funky spot ? That could work too.

[@GhastlyH]

I can't wait to see what the camera changes will bring to machinima making.

[@lightcred8758]

was hoping for camera zoom out like old times...

[@JGeary387]

Yes, I agree. Please, please, please, update the Health Bars and customizability of them. I hate having to use Plater and other mod for it…

[@cookie_doki]

new spell book is really nice being able to see so many spells at once

[@jackvai2681]

the camera-fix is a great upgrade.

[@soujourne]

effin bliz should not restrict flying unless evereyone is restircted in flying, dragon riding is just flying but fk those who dont like it?

[@killerninja566]

regular flying being locked is kinda BS I don't want to always be having to be using dynamic. I hope pathfinder is easy I barely use the dragon mounts already unless it's a hike.

[@curiousabout1]

I think it's a reasonable, or at least not terrible trade-off instead of not having flying at all in the beginning of an expac.

[@anengineerandacat]

How about... silhouette while occluded? This would work very nicely with the new camera.

[@Paranitis]

One that would be great is to have a toggle to not be spammed with quests your alts haven't completed yet. I have 30 max level characters, and I only do the quests on my main. So every time I log into Valdrakken I have one or two NPCs shouting at me to do this thing or that thing, which I don't want to do.

[@no-budhee6657]

They won’t pop up on your alts anymore. That’s what the warband competed quests toggle on the map is. If you want to replay the quests on an alt, you’ll need to pick them up from the quest giver.

[@cbbpspike]

I'm wondering how the new spellbook works with creating macros with the shift click function. Can you have the new spellbook ui open with the macro ui?

[@JAFARS0N]

Microsoft has to: - Remove Token from the game - Add the game in Xbox game pass - Add PvP focused end game too, like castle and siege dynamic war thing.

[@JAFARS0N]

With these changes: - More people will sub Xbox game pass to play WoW (they will earn more money) - Less people will grind some random shit and invest more time in activities that they enjoy - not things that they have to

[@bushtactics4936]

rip i can only pay for sub with wow token :/ cuz my country don't even have paypal , doubt the change will make the game any better , but hey i can live with it , can find other means to pay for my sub

[@Candlemancer]

Are you even old enough to play this game?

[@bushtactics4936]

@@Candlemancer 28 , engineer , been dependent on the token since it's release x)

[@xentharas5629]

8:37 how do you change difficulty without a group now? Will the panel always be there? Most people farm old raids solo, so there has to be a possibility.

[@Candlemancer]

He never said it's not still available where it always was

[@xentharas5629]

@@Candlemancer nice, i thought, it might be changed, blizz normally does that

[@Sloff1155]

Raid control also needs a new UI.

[@Ribbitking]

Where do you get the clean icons pack?

[@mugglescakesniffer3943]

When do we get the pathfinder map toy for Dragonflight?

[@jeremiahbrownlee2299]

I really want to be able to place the camera over a shoulder, instead of square in the middle.

[@georgecorg783]

A search for spells, with related passives and a feature to highlight if not on your bar. There's the problem right there. There too many!

[@sobiru5189]

How does this fix the camera issue when a tree is between you and the character? You won't still be able to see.

[@MrSherlock2]

LOL, when a game starts to lose player base, everything suddenly can be fixed. What's next?

[@kmered1]

the game isnt losing player base though. bellular did a video going over the numbers...

[@jamesgarrett1300]

Have they changed the visibility of trivial quest markers?

[@lennyvalentin6485]

Spellbook needs a search bar.

[@jomoelle]

Will the camera changes make ground casts not land on the ceiling?

[@archivist_of_dragonstone]

Will my hunter's spider pets turn into crabs too? :D

[@diamondead]

Yep

[@Randy246]

If spiders turn into crabs will they be able to use the large knife toy?

[@MarkTheMadMan]

Works with mounts too

[@drudle]

@@Randy246 No, lol.

[@WhiteCarBlackWheels]

is it bad that the things im always most excited for in the new expansions are the UI changes?

[@Kiljoy_]

Is it me, but I been playing SOD all the time and I stepped over to panda mix and it seems like pressing skill buttons are so unresponsive. Takes several times for the buttons to cast spells or skill?

[@andrzejkulakowski]

Next quest marker should be an indicator for "quest that's not worth doing but buy wow token instead"

[@okdmrz]

I like all the added new features and QoL, but I kinda wished they left the "crusty" windows the same style. What you call "crusty" in my opinion was the fantasy/rugged look of Warcraft that I very much prefer over the overly clean modern look that in my opinion doesn't match the fantasy genre.

[@tooreosonecup4995]

5:20 I wish so bad they had this for cursor. I lose mine all the time

[@thejoeapparition1637]

I’m ok with all these ui changes but I hope there’s an option to keep the old looks without needing an addon

[@deathbreach3448]

I’m going to keep proposing this because imagine… (Human Model) The armor just looks wayyyy cooler on the human model, yet it would remain undead.

[@jhodathekid]

The Cataclysm upscaled textures still aren't even in the game

[@Tantakugames]

as a colorblind person, the new quest icons are great

[@tawahachee8914]

They should not touch old icons imo. They are legacy at this point and seeing them the way they used to be is heartwarming for a wow veteran. If anything, they could fix them a lil bit to make borders better and stuff, but please do not redraw them.

[@philipje1]

Just give me the old UI. Allow me to toggle it on or off. Now I require to download a mod to revert everything. Who am I kidding, I am not going to play the next expansion

[@itszeonblyat]

Games evolve, but at least we have access to a huge variety of addons that allows us to do stuff like you say, changing the UI to however we like it. Not many games do this, so I think we already have a lot of freedom

[@vilgefortz9816]

New camera mode will reduce my headaches by approx. 20%

[@sockmonkey3393]

THe camera is kind of a double edged sword, if there is a tree you wont be able to see the swirly your about to die to but i get it about the camera zooming in and out quickly.

[@ChinnuWoW]

Why is there a 5 sec casting time to switch flight modes? I know it’s not a big deal, but WTF kind of bizarre thought process caused this? It should be instant cast.

[@Skinface1000]

Arachnophobia mode FTW! Best feature any game has had for sure!

[@GPTLeader]

Best Feature for me 5:40 😭🥰

[@ronsorage78]

to bad you cant set certain mounts to regular flight. now i get to find what mounts ARENT DRing so i can use both.

[@chachachii_]

The new update that lets you hide quests you've done on another character is GREAT.

[@zackshilakintheakakpack2426]

please give us FOV higher than 90... T_T

[@fentdealr]

They should make it possible to change the backdrops because they are now taking away all the very unique back drops for classes/races like demon hunter or deathknight... i would very much prefer those art styles over some little campfire

[@NoNameNeeded-u3r]

what if I hate spiders AND crabs??!?!?!?!

[@trsxaelarka4704]

Honestly, I'm not a big fan of this idea that "more modern" means an icon looses a lot of its personality. It's like the de-evolution of firefox symbol, the more "modern" something gets the more flair and style it looses. The list items for transmog is a perfect example of this, it didn't look old, it looked stylized. Modern should mean more high res, more vibrant colors, maybe the buttons for spells have a themed border depending on if they're class/spec/general, this sanitization of aesthetic for the sake of "cleanliness" really just makes the ui bland and boring.

[@ArthurPessoadeSouza]

Camera changes are missing the most important feature, change the alpha/make invisible items between the camera and character

[@Gikaser]

So they will actually make “less bad res” the old xmogs?

[@theend6032]

I can't wait to play this in classic.

[@deutschlanddeutschland7111]

spellbook design is adjusted to viewing habits that come from looking at phones

[@Sheriff_K]

The new Spellbook is gonna be impossible to put skills onto my bars.. I already have to close talent window and open spellbook to place new talent skills cuz they cover my bars. 😒 Edit: Oh wait, it makes the bar strata pop out over it? Hmm, that makes it easier then.