BELOVED SON and the HIPPOGRYPHS - Bretonnia vs. Empire - Total War Warhammer 2

[@ThE_BoI_WhO_MMd_wThUt_prTEctn]

Day [REDACTED] of infiltrating CA(?) to buff Steam Tanks During my time in this building,I have come to notice many smaller sounds that get shadowed by the high-pitched screeches and constant chanting. These voices seem to lament something,perhaps they are the souls of those CA has killed with their DLC,and the chanting symbolizes those who have bent the knee and accepted their cruel fate. On another note,I really shouldn't think about it too much,my mission here is to give the Steam Tank it's righteous power,and I won't rest until it is done! Eventually,I reach what I assume is the final chamber,where all of CAs darkest secrets are held. A chill runs down my spine,but Sigmars light warms my every step. Ready to fulfill my destiny,I open the door...

[@RustlessPotato]

Is this becoming an SCP entry ? :P

[@matics453]

This just keeps getting intense.

[@Byzantine_Orthodox_Christian]

Why don't you just buff them your self it takes like 3 minutes in pfm

[@sirunklydunk8861]

"Charge down those gunners for Ze- HEY, THAT GUY IS GIVING PIERRE THE BIRD! LET'S KICK HIS ASS!" - Companions of Quenelles

[@jiangxina4142]

Ze Hey is a bad combination

[@Khorothis]

That feel when a game's outcome is impacted by a bad UI and an even worse algorythm. That feel when the guy not only doesn't blame those things, he says it was his fault and he should have known better, knowing that those things exist. I have so much respect for you Indy for always being real, 24/7, when it shines, when it pours, always.

[@josephcowie342]

I mean, he did make a mistake. Not in the not checking the corner thing, that's a problem with the minimap, but he never checked the minimap for the entire time it took for Zintler's to cross half the map. The corner thing is super dumb and not his fault, but if he'd checked his minimap he could've responded more effectively.

[@michael6109]

I'm the player in the video. I put the knights there as a cheeky sort of experiment because people don't usually expect a defensive faction like the Empire to vanguard deploy behind you like the beastmen. We were in a custom lobby not ladder and I had no idea I was playing Indy. It was extremely high risk to have a unit that expensive isolated and I would not have done it if I knew I was facing a skilled player. I wasn't trying to exploit the UI, and I had to run my knights across the map to get to him so they were visible on the minimap for quite some time. I took a chance and it payed off.

[@TheChaosstep]

That was a Steam Tank disguised as a mage....

[@nicktohzyu]

7:00 it's not about micro, it's about setting them on guard mode. When off guard mode they will stop to fight anything, whereas on guard mode they will only do what you tell them to do

[@citizenwayne9800]

CREED!

[@DeliciousCornbread]

Empire Special Forces indeed. Sneaky sneaky Zintlers.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

shuper shneaky!

[@nicktohzyu]

7:00 it's not about micro, it's about setting them on guard mode. When off guard mode they will stop to fight anything, whereas on guard mode they will only do what you tell them to do

[@TheDinofou]

hmm but they wouldn't chase if the unit routs, would they ?

[@loudmusic4us179]

@@TheDinofou They wouldn't. It's just something that needs to be adjusted by CA

[@jiangxina4142]

@@TheDinofou Chasing fleeing are not Chivalrous

[@metalhead1ist]

Damm, 217 kills for empire swordsmen. How did that happen?

[@michael6109]

Hey Indypride, it's Jackasstrophic. That was a great game! I had no idea that was you. I'm a big fan, and I've pretty much learned everything I know about the game from your videos. Keep up the great content man! P.S. Sorry for the lag, I'm stationed in a rural part of Germany so playing with people back in the states can be a little bit frustrating connection wise.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

it was a fun game mate thanks for playing! yeah the lag was annoying but it happens and not your fault at all haha

[@Daluxolo]

Another great fight and cast. This shows off one of my favorite aspects of your videos and casting, and that’s making videos of fights you lost. A great fight is a great fight, and your commitment to showing them regardless of winning or losing is admirable. Keep up the great videos Brother

[@milkandcookiesTW]

glad you enjoyed it my friend!

[@lek1223]

i would love to see this army comp attempted again. It seems you got screwed by unlucky enemy comp, unlucky charges and their rear cavalry.

[@Skaitania]

Hiding Reiksguard in plain sight. Literally. I can't believe that worked...that's my level of mess-up!

[@ernestoa.jimenez3206]

Taking notes all along. Thanks for the strategic analysis. It really helps now that I'm starting to do Multiplayer!

[@milkandcookiesTW]

sure thing ernesto!

[@LemanRussVanquisher]

Very well played to both of you. The Knights of the Lionhearted were absolute death machines this game.

[@MrJimmibambo]

You should have focused demis when they engaged COmpaniones :P Lourn plus sword and Hippos charge, they demis would be histor yin a matter of seconds :P But it's easy to say after the battle. Epic Video thou :)

[@destroyerinazuma96]

On tabletop single entities are often used to block charges and save other units. An example is the goblin hero on a wolf - cheap, fast, versatile. If the need arises, one can throw him under the bus "for the greater good".

[@TheAuzze]

Just a hypothesis but I think cavalry charges that go limp happen when they try to charge the rear of a unit that's running away from them.

[@3v1l0773r]

I actually heard a voice line of Louen saying Beaquis' name when the Red Duke contacted me with diplomacy and he didn't say it the way I thought he would. He said "Be-Qui" or "Be-Kwi". Think of the "Kwi" part pronounced like "Kiwi" but without the first i.

[@barrywise7185]

17:20, you're talking about how much work your knights did chasing off units in the back, ~170 kills. Im staring at these swordsmen sitting at 217 kills. Probably a lot of peasants, but still. good god, what a terrible ending for these heroes of the empire.

[@heirofcarnage1782]

Yeah, kills alone isn't a good proof of usefulness. I had a game where my best unit got like 70 kills. But they were all artillery kills. Wiped out 3 units of enemy artillery.

[@barrywise7185]

HeirofCarnage, right you are my good man. Kills does not equate to damage done or value generated.

[@heirofcarnage1782]

@@barrywise7185 agreed. Holding ground and killing key targets is so much more important than grinding down chaff. Also killing monstrous units. People see a small kill count and never think "were those enemy peasant bowmen kills or grail guardian kills?" I remember watching HeirofCarthage once, and he sent his hero unit in against some trolls and a giant, and then forgot to micro the hero. Being a beast, the hero won the fight. But Heir didn't even notice (suprise, that's just heir =p) and so on the end was like "only 10 kills? Dang, he didn't do well"

[@milkandcookiesTW]

yep always gotta look at the context in which a unit performed! Like a few games ago a Hell Pit Abomination didnt get many kills but it did significant damage to 2 separate mammoths and terror routed some other stuff, so it generated a lot of value. the Knights of the Lionhearted were definitely important this battle though

[@omarenriqueguzmanlopez3522]

I love your channel your one of the best warhammer total war narrators and players

[@milkandcookiesTW]

thanks henry i really appreciate the kind words!

[@sirtrevis]

Yes, he is.

[@Lucaeus]

love the gameplay, I've been waiting for this matchup for a while!

[@briancline7349]

They should give the Royal Hippogriffs a couple extra models for that price if you ask me. They should be like a flying equivalent of demigriffs, less powerful of course since they fly but still they should just be a little stronger than they are and I think adding a couple more models with their added health and damage output would help towards this goal. ... speaking of tier lists like you did at the end, could you make a tier list/analysis video? I’ve been curious to hear about that topic for a while.

[@eVeNmOrEiNsAnItY]

This kinda illustrates why I don't like the Demigryph knights. The Empire just shouldn't be able to field elite cavalry that can outcompete Bretonnian elite cavalry. It goes against their jack-of-all-trades purpose. And here their presence lets them heavily defang the Bretonnian cavalry power.

[@paladinshark2448]

eVeNmOrEiNsAnItY I love demis because Gryphon cavalry man! It’s awesome! That aside Demi’s actually are mid range for their class. They aren’t cavalry, Reiksguard, Knights of the white wolf and the Inner circle are the best cavalry the empire fields. Demis are monstrous cavalry on tier with things such as Juggernaughts and mourn fang riders. Hippo knights count as monstrous I think actually. So compare hippogryphs to Demi’s for how their use.

[@eVeNmOrEiNsAnItY]

@@paladinshark2448 Exactly. The Demis rinse Hippos and Bretonnia has no equivalent. I wouldn't mind them if Bretonnia had them or an equivalent... but they don't. They have no place on the Empire roster while Bretonnia doesn't have them. Monstrous or not, they are completely aganst the spirit of what the Empire army is supposed to be in their current form.

[@paladinshark2448]

eVeNmOrEiNsAnItY the main thing is the cavalry in their “class” hasn’t actually been added yet. Mournfangs, Juggernaughts, Balefire Taurus riders, Rhinox riders and the other monster cavalry options aren’t actually in game yet. That said, it’s Gryphon cavalry man! The empire has a Gryphon motif, so they fit the aesthetic snug as a glove. And if they nerf the Demi’s, the empire will just be trash frankly. They don’t actually do the Jack of all trades thing for a lot of reasons. Halberds are too expensive, state troops aren’t strong enough to successfully “hold the line,” powder is too hard to protect and too expensive, you name it. The empire needs its Gryphons rn, so a nerf to them will have to see a substantial state troop buff.

[@spacewolfblackmane19]

@@paladinshark2448 personally I just blame gw for never updating the roster ever. The Brititonean army is the smallest in the game as far as I can tell. And even the Empire who does not specialize in cav potentially has access to no less than 17 unique knightly orders each with their own specialtys, back stories, strengths, weaknesses quirks, and traditions. And Bretonnia . . . Has has none that I can find at least none represented in the original t.t. hell they had to invent the hippogryph knights just to help fill out their roster for crying out loud.

[@LyricalDJ]

I agree, especially since in the lore Bretonnians nobles are the type who train and believe they can and ought to defend their land from dragons and whatnot - and what's more, in the lore they _can_. Not all of them can, but the elite knights definitely should. Take the units in this battle: Demigryph Knights and Royal Hippogryph Knights. Demis (regular ones, not the halberd type) have greater numbers (24 versus 8), are considerably cheaper (1500 versus 2000), they have shields, more amour and a higher charge bonus. The Hippogryphs have higher health per model, higher armour piercing damage, they can fly and can cause terror. Now of course these units need not be equally powerful nor serve the same purpose, but to me, considering the cost and stat differences, this very much looks like either the Demis are too powerful or Hippogryphs are too weak.. or both. Especially considering the lower amount of models in the Hippogryph units. I'm fine with demis being the Empire's best heavy AP cavalry.. I'm not fine with them being this much better than what Bretonnia can field. I mean, demis can be used against a broad variety of unit types and they'll still do well even if the enemy unit is not one of their preferred targets. - edit - Just noticed that Demis with halberds were used, well, generally same picture. A bit lower general attack stats and losing the shield in favour of a boost to their anti-large damage.

[@kevinho3538]

Keep up the great work Indy! This was a really fun battle. Also, not sure if I asked this already but is it possible that you can show us some more mirror matches? Civil wars are really common in the warhammer universe and I think it would be interesting to see personally.

[@nedimbajgoric2909]

Your knights had those lame charges because they were exhausted

[@D2themax7]

Do you think that the Empire update should give them the ability “dab” or would that be too OP?

[@ajanimartin6860]

I found this channel about 3 weeks ago. I love strategy games and want to make them when I grow up. If you want I can share some of my ideas.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

what are some of your ideas?

[@gplr1882]

France vs germany

[@Jaevwyn]

gplr1882 not realistic. French didn't run away

[@jessepigram1039]

@@Jaevwyn I think gplr1882 is referring to pre-nerf France.

[@heirofcaelos6698]

@@Jaevwyn Have you seen medieval France? That was some scary stuff back then.

[@heirofcaelos6698]

Second only to the Old Norse warriors, took on Rome, took on Greece, took on England, took on Russia, took on France, the Byzantine Empire didn't even bother fighting back...

[@Jaevwyn]

Túrin Turambar Turun Ambartanen nobody alive has seen medieval France, or medieval anywhere for that matter. So no, I have not.

[@razelostein9558]

tbh, many might disagree but if youre going with hippogryph knights, take alberic. he is much cheaper and a bit better for gooning targets the louen because of heoric killing blow and anti large. and you already bring a life damsel so its kinda pointless bringing a expensive lord with regen (well not pointless but ineffective cost wise) i bring louen only when i need an independent lord who dosent rely on support. but thats just me and ill be happy to hear what you all think

[@CompetitivelyAwesome]

One thing I dislike about WH is how an awesome charge like at 8:05 by the hippogryph knights gets only about 7 kills (they already at 22 kills before the charge)

[@paladinshark2448]

Bruh what’s that thumbnail picture that is a kickass demi pic would love that for my desktop

[@ghostly9450]

so much chivalry! ride, my knights, ride :')

[@1YCARADOFACAO]

And THAT is what we call a battle!

[@Warsong16]

I'm not sure but i think as units get ore and more exhausted there charges are hindered as well. Just anecdotal evidence on my part, but i think there is something there.

[@Warsong16]

To clarify, i am referring to the speed at which they close the gap between the target at during the last seconds before connection. They seem to be much more "limp dick" when exhausted and hardly change their speed or animations at all when exhausted.

[@restorationofidentity]

CA better fix this issues. That jade wizard shouldn't hold an entire unit of Calvary. It's so frustrating to see!!

[@koheletcalaforexclan6508]

Yes, another grand battle!

[@milkandcookiesTW]

indubitably my good friend!

[@ionutstir5164]

Can you try wood elves + bretonnia + empire vs dark elves and vampires ? :3

[@hughwoodford]

Hi Indypride For the record, it's 'Bay-a-kwiss"

[@heirofcaelos6698]

No, it's french, therefore, silent 's' given it is the last letter.

[@cha7278]

Anyone else finds it weird High Elves don't have Grffins in WTW2? I can remember the Lord Eltharion model in table top...

[@khelgarironfist3301]

Many factions lack many things

[@coryallen2202]

You should give call of warhammer another go. While yes there is plenty of content now in tw warhammer, it would be nice to see a few of those who have been neglected.

[@shadowknight4535]

As of Right now 0 Comments when I am writing this.... Does this matter.. no.

[@shadowknight4535]

I took to long to write this... I have perished

[@ghostly9450]

your intentions were noble and pure hearted. you will not be forgotten!

[@kylesprenkel680]

I think charges in the warhammer series of total wars are kind of jank dont know what they did but the whole get stopped as soon as they make contact thing irks me real bad. Like i explained to my friends who this is their first total war, way back when when you told a unit to move somewhere it went there it might be dead when it get there but at least the whole unit does not get stuck on one guy. it might be my only complaint for TWW1-2

[@connerhurd277]

@milkandcookiesTW you should download the Kimg Louen reskin. He looks alot better

[@BiLLYboomBOOM]

Amazing battle... High IQ plays frim both players

[@lennhsu]

IMHO The demigryph would have caught the companion even if they were not blocked by the life mage, it wouldn't really change the result.

[@alexsitaras6508]

The questing knights do have some pretty good AP damage and sustained melee stats, might have been able to drop a model or if they got their charge bonus.

[@Wildboy789789]

They ruined king louen, I belive he actually has to be fighting to get his regen... I know it's so dumb, he was my favorite lord

[@milkandcookiesTW]

he doesnt need to be in melee to get his regen, I'm not aware any significant changes have been made to him recently at all. He's a beast, just very expensive

[@karlfranz8345]

It` pronunced Be-Kiss.

[@methar8916]

I'm French, if you want to pronounce Beaquis correctly, it's "Béaki" Also nive vid' ;)

[@heirofcaelos6698]

I believe the correct pronunciation is bee-ah-kee.

[@heirofcaelos6698]

I realise that is what you spelled out, I was simply providing a phonetic spelling.

[@Hexamus]

Hey, Indie. Do you ever get nerd rage? If so, what do you do to calm down.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

lol yes. just step away from the game and go do something else, read a book, go get some food, hang out with friends, hit the gym, whatever

[@Hexamus]

@@milkandcookiesTW Nice! I don't really get nerd rage all that often but I was curious since you always sound so chill lol

[@sushanalone]

Heir never posts his losses...

[@robnoel5736]

Not true at all.

[@emorsi]

I wonder if Bretonnia and the Empire should always be allies on the battlefield and in the Campaign... could they be enemies in the lore?

[@jessepigram1039]

They clashed on a good number of occasions. The Warhammer Fantasy lore was intended to allow for any battles to be reasonable within the background. I'm not sure the Bretonnians and Empire ever even had a real alliance within the lore, they just helped each other when needed and otherwise left each other alone, for the most part. Presumably because of the huge and varied threats knocking on both of their doors.

[@emorsi]

@@jessepigram1039 Thank you very much for the info... and I think it's something like the rival nations France and Germany in the past... only nowadays they are really allies... hm... but I so like to see those Warhammer Nations to be allies... and to go together against the dark creatures of this warlike world.

[@teroslarone1171]

moric Louen and Franz are accrualy pretty good friends and while their have been sone border skirmishes between the empire and bretonnia, full out war is simply unfesibal with all the other threats they face.

[@Avokad]

the game still has abyssal ai i mean there are so muxh things that just cant be excused

[@Epig420]

Mass crossbows should be a thing against Brets because most of the time the issue is Peasants and not Cav, Bret Peasants in general I think are too good and their Cav aint that scary

[@Advo42069]

that's lame that units can hide in the UI

[@ДимитърАпостолов-п7ф]

7:00 - me everytime I TRY to play Bretonia in Multi. They are just so brokenly weak! The whole idea that that your ONLY tool is the most micro heavy unit type in the game(heavy cav) is crazy. Worst inf and artillery in the game, mediocre heroes, insanely expensive cav. Simply broken. They are good on campaign thou .

[@bacnguyen9304]

I would say that bretonia are one of the few faction that empire can have infantry supiority on . infantry for the human faction is pretty garbage they have cost effective low tier but when come to mid and high tier they get absolutely wrecked and warhammer style of combat did not favor the humans faction in general if this was medival two it would be different because it have formation and somewhat physic base combat and the weapons the humans use like spear pike and halbeard would be more effective war hammer fighting is like everyone just use sword and polarm did not give you range advantages

[@hellhelghast]

karl franz with stronger meele strength than a motherfucking hippogryph doesnt quite feel right

[@milkandcookiesTW]

Ghal Maraz mate, the very weapon the entire setting is based on! im cool with it

[@hellhelghast]

@@milkandcookiesTW True dat, but its a dwarven runehammer after all

[@hellhelghast]

@@milkandcookiesTW Tho, even as a hardcore bretonnian fan, im okay with franz winning that engagement, the "Duellist" trait doesnt feel strong enough sometimes

[@someguy1914]

i watch your shit more than netflix bro

[@milkandcookiesTW]

lol thanks bro, glad you enjoy it. plenty more on the way :)

[@captaintrainer9490]

This battle those not have my consent

[@platoonmexx9278]

that empire army makes no sense to me what so ever, from everything something, but from nothing enough to fullfill its role

[@milkandcookiesTW]

looks like a solid army to me

[@platoonmexx9278]

@@milkandcookiesTW but he cant answere any common bretonian build :o multiple grailknights will rek him and archerspamm too with this build even foot squires would dumpster him no offensive magic to force the enemy do smt just 1 cav unit means they will get gooned and trade under their price ( yes there is zintlers, but they r so far spread, they cant help each other) nothing at all to answere archers // that cannon dont really does anything vs 4 in this case or more units, and then again shooting these cheap archers would be very worth for the bret player i c why he picked the 2 handguns, but the hammer of the witches is a trashy pick to follow that up, he basically relies on those 3 units ( and hippos, but they again will get gooned) to deal with all of brets mobility, but how he wants to protect them? there is no light wizard and not enough helbards spearmen are nice and fine with their chargedefence for 300 bucks, but they wont really deal the dmg vs the high armor quickly enough unless the bret player makes hugh mistakes, i dont see the empire army winning :D i d ditch some spears, the hotw, the handguns and maybe zintlers, and get instead silver bullets vs grailknights more helberds and more demis prbbly even stirlands revenge, that stalk vanguard ap is always good would you really pick that army like is vs bret? :O

[@milkandcookiesTW]

The Vanguard play with Zintlers shouldnt have worked, there was no way to hide them, so I dont think the unit pick there is bad at all, but deploying them in the back of the map is super risky. I dont think the army comp he had "makes no sense", I think it had plenty of good tools and killing power against the things that make Bretonnia scary, but I do agree that its not the build I would have chosen for Empire vs. Bretonnia. I just dont think it was a bad build. this game would get super boring super quick if everyone always rocked the perfect counters and meta in their army comps though. experimenting and trying new stuff is half the fun of this game!

[@platoonmexx9278]

@@milkandcookiesTW thats for sure, imagine where we d be at if no1 ambushes u with 9 gold scurvy dogs in ffa;P

[@milkandcookiesTW]

@@platoonmexx9278 like honestly why even live in a world without 9 gold chevron scurvy dogs in ffa lol

[@blaf55]

:O WHAT Indye lost

[@MadMax-vs9up]

miu miu - miu miu )))

[@loganjones9528]

BRETONNIA!!!

[@Atreides1GDI]

217 kills on empire swords... lol

[@Jinpachin]

U lost 1500 gold to good strategery

[@Erebus2075]

yer bad AI, ai taking choices you obviously wouldnt take, and Camera+UI should never be the issue or reason for losing+frustration :) doubt it will be fixed sadly

[@kissstranger2314]

Pronounced "Beaky"

[@Chikanuk]

You main problem here - you cant utilize you goonssquard. He expuse KF? OH NO HE POP DAMAGE SKILL WE ARE DOOMED RUN AWAY! You play as lady damn KING LOUEN LEONCOEUR, not some Tretch Craventail. KF only on top of the horse, no units around, you have gryphs, louen and spearmans around him. Just charge him and kill. Even if guns and cannons shoot your gryphs to death - it will be superb trade. This game have like 3 moments where you can just good KF and every time you avoid fight cuz he pop damage ability (sic!). He have only 40 mdef - pretty easy target in melee. And dont bother with this nonsense RoR units, if you want strong roster - just bring grail knights. They are BEST cav unit in the game, period. They can charge demis face to face and win easily.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

all good points. but just remember im not bringing the meta everytime, this isnt a top tier bretonnia build and im well aware of that ;P my play and builds are dictated by content ive covered before and keeping things fresh and interesting, and what i think will be fun at the time. playing a random quick battle or battle list game with a fun and unique army will always be very different from what i would bring in a competitive tournament setting. there are games where I could 3 shot Skrolk from the start of a match with fireballs from across the map for example, but im not gona do that because it would make for a garbage replay. im still going to try my best to win, i just might avoid some stuff that would make for worse content. i definitely made plenty of mistakes this game though :)

[@Chikanuk]

If you can 3shot Skrolk - do it. Cuz if you must weaken you playstile for the sake of good replay - this replay already bad. Whats interesting in game, where one player dont play seriously? This is like - "Oh, i play with Kholek and 2 shaggoths and my opponents dont bring anti large or even missiles at all! Now i will afk with my monsters cuz i want interesting replay!". Just do you best, everything you can, and if you opponent give you a tough fight - this is good replay. IMHO. P.S. Do you best != always picking optimal tournament rosters, or (especially) some nasty QP cheese tactics, ofc.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

always picking optimal tournament rosters = same or similar army compositions most of the time = awesome and fun niche units go unused = content i dont wana make lol. i appreciate where you're coming from, but i dont agree with it. experimenting and trying different stuff is half the fun of the game. sniping out a lord 30 seconds into the match is not fun, rewarding, or interesting to watch in my opinion, and i play this game to have fun at the end of the day. i will do it if i need to, but it is likely not a replay i will post, because winning a game in the first 30 seconds of the match will not keep many people excited or eager to watch a foregone conclusion

[@Chikanuk]

@@milkandcookiesTW For some reason part of post where i specially point what im not talking about "tournament rosters in every game" is missing after i send it. Im taking about -"I can assasinate Lord but i will not do this", and this is not make any interesting games in my opinion. This is why i mention "if you want strong roster". If you want fun roster - its ok.

[@milkandcookiesTW]

ah i gotcha

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

even against high elves and dark elves are you drunk?

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

wood elves are hit or miss depends are the army comp

[@milkandcookiesTW]

yes bretonnia has an advantage vs High Elves. Grail Knights absolutely dumpster Dragon princes and HE cavalry, which gives them the mobility advantage right off the bat. As a faction, High Elves are reliant on relatively low hp, high melee defense units with Martial Prowess and physical resistance. Grail Knights are a counter to the majority of the HE roster, even Phoenix guard because they so easily bypass their physical resist, and deal so much damage off the charge that HE units quickly lose their Martial Prowess buff. of course High Elves can win, its just not advantageous for them. Bretonnia vs. Wood Elves is one of the most lopsided matchups in the game, heavily in Bretonnias favor between equally skilled players.

[@sephiroaone-of-nine101]

​@@milkandcookiesTW debatable also banking on one unit to carry out all the damage is foolish, a good magical spell and well place charge can destroy anything thats decently strong or mass archer fire

[@Aw3someToTh3Max]

tbh empire player played quite bad...so many times I saw forgotten units its not even funny....and running around with your ground cav against flying cav?? cmon man...he could just keep his front together, and attack brettonia's archers with his cav, so that when brettonia landed he could keep the flying units grounded so that the demis could come in with Karl, instead of having them run around like morons...gg anyways

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Those questing knights lost the game, quest failed.

[@mrshroom2]

first

[@shadowknight4535]

Beat me by 10 seconds