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What Drill Bit is Best? America takes on China. Milwaukee, DeWALT, Bosch, Ryobi take on Spyder 100x

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Tool Show

Tool Show

Күн бұрын

Way back in February of this year, Sypder, an American Bits and Blades producer, told us they had some new bits that were strong, durable, and extra long-lasting. Also, blue and purple. So we drove to Home Depot and Lowes, and bought every bit that claimed it would drill through metal. As it turned out, every bit we bought was made in China, with one exception. This DeWALT bit was made in Germany for some reason. Only the Spyder was made right here in the good ole US of A. Interesting. Are you ready for this? Let’s go.
Top 3:
DeWALT German Made: 556 Holes
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Spyder Mach Blue USA Made: 481 Holes
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DeWALT Chinese Made: 472 Holes
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Пікірлер: 670
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
While testing the bits, we also built a rig to apply lateral stress until each one broke. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYnJeGOpi5Vpfpo
@not_today_satan_7
@not_today_satan_7 2 жыл бұрын
I went and picked one up at lowes thanks
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Big ups to B&B. The number of holes drilled by hand here is immense. I can speak to having a long body breaking day of testing only to get 30 seconds of sped up footage. So Rob and the gang deserve props for bringing us this info. My money would be on Matco Hyper-Step as nothing else seems to drill like it, but also $$$$
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
Super kind of you guys. We just bought everything we could find in the big box stores, but several tradesmen have commented on some serious metal drilling contenders (many made in the USA) that the pros rely on. Not gonna lie, I REALLY don't want to do more of this testing. It was miserable. But if people really want it, I might have to reach out to some Pros to put together another test. :)
@IceBergGeo
@IceBergGeo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow I'm surprised (and glad) you did all this testing on your own. Normally, you let other channels have all the "fun" and just report on their results.
@evolvingskills5903
@evolvingskills5903 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow why not put the bits in a drill press? You can set the rpm and possibly do like project farm with weights for consistency.
@sw5926
@sw5926 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow how about a collaboration? Project Farm, TTC, VTC, etc.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
@@evolvingskills5903 We specifically didn't use a drill press and weight, because we know the people who buy these bits in the big box stores, don't do that. We attempted to be as "real world" as we could for our test.
@VanD3rp
@VanD3rp Жыл бұрын
One of the things about making things is that you get better at making things. That’s the #1 reason to buy American made stuff. It’s not that it’s “ours” or any hippy dippy stuff like that. It’s supporting American manufacturing which will hopefully lead to more things being made here while continuing to improve on quality, price, performance and availability.
@wolviestryder
@wolviestryder 2 жыл бұрын
I actually didn’t skip a second in this video. Love it from beginning to end.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
That means a lot man! It's not one of our sponsored videos, so it was really a labor a love (with the emphasis on the labor). Glad you found it entertaining and informative!
@wolviestryder
@wolviestryder 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow I did. I work in the remodeling business and you gave me 2 good choices of metal drills I can pick from.
@noelwarner8874
@noelwarner8874 2 жыл бұрын
Always looking for quality made in USA tools and I’ll be looking for Spyder next time I need bits. Good reporting.
@cb2000a
@cb2000a 2 жыл бұрын
Bought the Spyder bits when they came out. Great for drilling metal. Expensive, but good bits.
@jtoker9758
@jtoker9758 2 жыл бұрын
Check out NOrsemen and drill hog
@timsaxon8944
@timsaxon8944 2 жыл бұрын
Really pleased this is an honest review and not a Spyder add. Thank you guys!
@Manu__R
@Manu__R 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an ironworker, and at work we use Champion Brute XL5 bits, they drill very well and are made in the USA as well. If you're not too sore (or if you can convince your brother), I would love to see how they hold up against their American brethren. Great video!
@drm437
@drm437 2 жыл бұрын
Those are the ones I use as well. They haven’t steered me wrong, but I’d be willing to give Spyder a try as their hole saws are pretty good. As far as where a tool is made? Whenever possible, I try to have it made in Canada/USA.
@jtoker9758
@jtoker9758 2 жыл бұрын
You ever try out any Norsemen drill bits? Or the drillhog? These are USA made. Wonder how those compare to Champion Brute.
@Manu__R
@Manu__R 2 жыл бұрын
@@jtoker9758 I haven't, no
@jamesbarthelemy5926
@jamesbarthelemy5926 Жыл бұрын
I used a couple spider bits for galvanized heavy Channel a couple years ago. They surprised the hell out of me. We were predrilling for wall panels, so we made a lot of holes with them.
@gabesmith6475
@gabesmith6475 2 жыл бұрын
I would choose Spider because America, but I highly respect German made tools.
@kevinlynch2915
@kevinlynch2915 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from ireland I would prefer to buy usa tools or Germanys I like both countries
@firebladex8586
@firebladex8586 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinlynch2915 I'm from Canada, and prefer USA, Germany, or Japan made.
@stanlogan7504
@stanlogan7504 2 жыл бұрын
They do a lot right.
@fatguy9
@fatguy9 Жыл бұрын
I think a main point of buying domestic is to keep your money circulating in your country more which benefits you overall more directly
@RogersTM87
@RogersTM87 Жыл бұрын
Yu should have got the skil drill bits, they have a couple diffrnt sets at Lowes concrete and wood and metal bits
@NonieTools
@NonieTools 2 күн бұрын
I just want to comment that when this video came out 2 years ago(wow!) I went out and bought the German DeWalt cobalt and the blue spyder bits. Im not using them every single day but they are all still incredibly sharp. My only complaint about the spyder is they don't stay put in magnetic collets (m12 installation driver offset head) but aside from that they are amazing. I use them for wood and they still deliver consistent, clean holes! The German DeWalt cobalt bits are incredible and i use them any time i drill through metal! Still going strong 2 years later!
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 күн бұрын
Love to hear this!
@benjaminbaker2465
@benjaminbaker2465 2 жыл бұрын
Germans have always made incredible things. For hundreds of years they have made profound weapons, tools, cars, etc. But... I will always buy American. More or less expensive, higher lower performance, doesn't matter. Given the choice, always buy American. It's a mindset, and I want my kids to think that way too, so that's why I do it! 💪 Phenomenal video by the way! Had me the whole time and totally subscribed now!
@forgottencameras
@forgottencameras 2 жыл бұрын
After working in manufacturing in the US, I'm actually surprised the US-made bit held up as well as it did, but would like to see a larger sample size. Consistency was the big issue I always had with US machine shops, and why we went to Japan.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
Good feedback. Appreciate it!
@Handyman247llc
@Handyman247llc 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, Drilling the point home, that there is a lot of inconsity in product production & performance. Seeing Spyder with those results is impressive and equally satisfying that it is American made. I did not know spyder made saw blades, that I am interested in.
@robertopics
@robertopics 2 жыл бұрын
Not all the spider products are made in the US. Paddle bits, circular saw blades, and reciprocating saw blades are made in China or Taiwan.
@abes8190
@abes8190 2 жыл бұрын
I tried the spyder drill bits to drill out a stripped lug nut. It didn't do very well. I ended up taking them back for a refund. The kobalt drill bits from lowes worked better and did the job I needed done.
@sparx1425
@sparx1425 2 жыл бұрын
While I understand the frustration of wanting our bit to win I respect the fact that you were being honest to the end, hats off to you brother🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
@MAX_max_2024
@MAX_max_2024 Жыл бұрын
extremely thankful for the video! I was using Ryobi bits with lots of frustration and had no clue they are SO bad. Just bought Spyder to finish drilling steel that Ryobi was unable to do, and completed job in 5 min after spending 1h+ yesterday with Ryobi. The drilling effort you made is impressive but tells a story very well!
@Duey_diditGarage
@Duey_diditGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Im 💯% Spider been using ther circ saw,recip and jig saw blades for 2 years and very happy with them gona get a hole saw set and these blue asap
@fomoco300k
@fomoco300k 2 жыл бұрын
You’re gonna love their hole saws! I’ve never used any better. I love their quick eject extra long arbor, and nothing cuts better or outlasts their hole saws. .
@Duey_diditGarage
@Duey_diditGarage 2 жыл бұрын
@@fomoco300k yeah that eject is the holy grail
@brandonpatton4776
@brandonpatton4776 2 жыл бұрын
The shear will power to drill that Many holes and keep count. Is intense. Thank you for the comparison and the passion you have for tools
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brandon. Yeah, it was NOT fun. Just in case, we recorded EVERY HOLE in 4k for reference. Just so there wouldn't be any counting issues.
@brandonpatton4776
@brandonpatton4776 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow just crazy. Your awesome
@halofan4646
@halofan4646 2 жыл бұрын
Really love this video it would be interesting to see more tests like this
@Darthwill44
@Darthwill44 2 жыл бұрын
Huh definitely some good food for thought with bits. Thanks for making this!
@toolnerd
@toolnerd 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and information! 😎😎🤓🤓
@atrainace114
@atrainace114 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah spider blue drill bits are awesome. I saw a few early reviews and immediately went out and grabbed some. Well, tried to grab some. They were so new at lowes they were still in the freight box that hadn't been unpacked so I opened it and got me a box to purchase. They are some of the best bits I have used in a long time. That dont cost 100 per. I hope spider comes with a larger set in the future.
@tommyobrien9480
@tommyobrien9480 2 жыл бұрын
Fair play to you lads that was some amount of drilling, very interesting results well done 👏
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tommy. Really was a mountain of work, and I couldn't have done it without my brother.
@contax50mm
@contax50mm 2 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see the montana brand. They are made in USA too.
@plgard
@plgard 2 жыл бұрын
Norseman™ Drill and Tool / Viking Drill and Tool
@matthewsquillante1590
@matthewsquillante1590 2 жыл бұрын
I mean performance can’t be ignored so I’d be inclined to go with the dewalt bit, but... that purple and blue lookin pretty good and it provides American jobs so maybe the spiders.
@9fingernic
@9fingernic 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! So interesting to see the varying results from different brands. I wouldn't say it's fair to compare something made from high speed steel with something made from cobalt steel. Though it's interesting that a cobalt drill only did 75 more holes than a high speed steel bit. I also wish a drill press with a weight system was used to make sure this was absolutely scientific, but I know I'm a little obsessive. I want to see Spyder make a cobalt bit with their blue coating! I own these Mach Blue drill bits, and they are phenomenal. Feels great to support an American business and keep the jobs here! Keep it up Spyder and B&B!
@tpress5050
@tpress5050 2 жыл бұрын
It needs to be noted that the Spyder bits are a coated High Speed Steel, and they did almost as good as the most expensive Cobalt bits. That is truly impressive! I feel like that's a very important distinction that should be highlighted. But the most surprising thing to me is that the DeWalt Titanium (a coated HHS) did just as good as the Spyder bits and are made in China, and cheaper. But, as you noted the quality control may be lacking, and you may not always get that performance. Over all a very cool test. Thanks for doing that!
@flashwashington2735
@flashwashington2735 11 ай бұрын
But: titanium oxide is a coating, too. You did n't expect that, too much pressure and rpm ... burn the coating? Bit is done. I also use cutting lube, watching speed and pressure. Yes I do with crayon type lubes. Those hex shank bits are primarily used by householders in those 3.6 volt things. More expensive mfg. Aimed at a market with discernment and expectations. They will pay more because it fits their weak slow screwdriver.
@nosidamXlynax
@nosidamXlynax Ай бұрын
i stumbled upon this channel in looking for 107 guage drill bits and i must say i'm very pleasantly surprised by your honesty and integrity in review even if it lacked some repeated testing rigger to get an average but that's understandable considering the energy and time that would take, at any rate i'm gonna subscribe and check out another video or two on you channel and hope that you've maintained such quality since this upload or even potentially improved lol. ^_^
@ToolShow
@ToolShow Ай бұрын
We appreciate your viewership! We've just launched our first tool testing series, called Tool List. New episodes will be out soon. Hope you enjoy them!
@kennycolonsamol
@kennycolonsamol 2 жыл бұрын
When i say I want good reviews… This is what I am talking about!!!! Reviews that really matters… informative to the max. Thank you!!!
@thebutcher7919
@thebutcher7919 7 күн бұрын
Would be interesting to break down the cost per hole drilled. Great job comparing those and damn! Dewalt has some explaining to do!
@dchargerfan
@dchargerfan 2 жыл бұрын
Someone finally did it. I’ve been waiting for a solid bit review!!! Looks like spider for me
@Marcus_Woodard
@Marcus_Woodard 2 жыл бұрын
Take a look at project farms reviews.
@PFab
@PFab 2 жыл бұрын
I wish made in the USA was more common. The quality is much higher standards here. Which is why the prices go up. Made in the USA meant quality. Today is all about money. It's sad. In the job site, we spend hours working with junk, throwing junk away and getting new. We are now programed this way. I'm a firm believer of quality tools. You pay for what you get.
@tedmcdonald3377
@tedmcdonald3377 2 жыл бұрын
Amen 😎🐔😎🐔😎
@paedahe4975
@paedahe4975 2 жыл бұрын
Preach it brother.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 2 жыл бұрын
Having made tools in the USA I can assure you that you're paying for a lot that you don't get too. We filled our scrap bin up fast.
@PFab
@PFab 2 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred you are correct. The limitations we have on recycling materials is pretty harsh. And in ways it is much cleaner (for us) to have another country to do it abroad. But in reality it's still our planet that we share the same air. Over time it won't make any difference.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 2 жыл бұрын
@@PFab I was just thinking the same thing before you said it. But NIMBY and out of sight, out of mind do exist. Still, we could do the hard things better here if we had the will to do them. We cannot force the far east to do them better. Oh well, I guess low price wins every time.
@darylsavage119
@darylsavage119 2 жыл бұрын
Since different coatings are meant for different applications, and the most of my work is light to medium steel, I always go cobalt bits as they seem to last the longest, regardless of brand. My particular favourite is actually the starrett holesaw pilot bit (I'm an electrician so most of my holes are 6mm anyways) £4 a bit I have a Milwaukee cobalt index for when I need a particular size but risk snapping the bit. Cost £40 I have a hilti cobalt index that I've had for nearly 20years. Every bit is still razor sharp and will go through anything Ive ever come across,but the index cost over £200 for 35 bits, so it's only used if it happens to burn out a cheaper bit first
@efenili
@efenili 2 жыл бұрын
More than made in the USA, which is very important to me, it's more about supporting independent and/or locally run companies IMO. The cost is almost always more, and in some cases way more, but I think its worth it to support those companies. The quality isn't always leaps and bounds ahead but its usually at least close to the top and that makes it worth it for me.
@myfaceback100
@myfaceback100 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot beat the Germans for engineering. Great video is good to see a honest review of the popular drill bits.
@PFab
@PFab 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The Knipex brand is one we don't compete with really.
@paedahe4975
@paedahe4975 2 жыл бұрын
@@PFab Do you have Knipex drill bits? Where do they sell those? Scam-A-Zon?
@PFab
@PFab 2 жыл бұрын
@@paedahe4975 I meant knipex tools. Never seen drill bits
@paedahe4975
@paedahe4975 2 жыл бұрын
@@PFab I know brother. Just razzin you.
@PFab
@PFab 2 жыл бұрын
@@paedahe4975 I was curious to see if I was wrong. So I did a quick Google search. All images pull up just hand tools. Nothing powered. No bits either
@rhavasy
@rhavasy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Spyder doing well with drill bits because my experience with their carbide hole saws in 304 stainless and even A36 hot rolled is the exact opposite - I got 0 holes from both a 1-1/2" and a 1" Spyder hole saw using a drill press to control speed (
@josephgrant9137
@josephgrant9137 2 жыл бұрын
Bosch cobalt bit set is a great bit also. Thanks Der Guy.
@doxdoomsday4948
@doxdoomsday4948 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is some dedication to making a episode! Thanks for your hard work.
@benfowler2127
@benfowler2127 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Dewalt cobalt bit set. They have easily been the best bits I’ve ever used. I’m not as active with them as I’m sure some guys are, but they’ve drilled through things I never figured they would have lasted through. I’ve also only ever used bits you can get from big box until I bought the dewalt cobalt. So there may be better bits out there.
@NonieTools
@NonieTools Жыл бұрын
Have you tried drilling through wood with them? I was shocked at how rough they are. They pulled the drill so hard it smacks into the wood. Leaves splinters everywhere. Goes very fast. The Spyder and Milwaukee titanium bits I have I can use for finish carpentry because they are so smooth.
@jeffshackleford3152
@jeffshackleford3152 Жыл бұрын
I used to work as a finish carpenter in commercial. I bought the dewalt cobalt for pre drills on hollow metal doors, closers, frames etc. I used to charge out the company for the dewalt black and gold because the purchasing person used to hate anyone who bought " needlessly expensive" bits. I would charge them 5 to 1 for the cobalt and make nice profit, I even bought a bench grinder to sharpen them.
@911skateordie
@911skateordie 4 ай бұрын
As an American man. Ive always been intrigued by german engineering and specifically german made tools. Not sure why exactly, i just think germans + metal = badassery. Thats why i have a good selection of American tools and German tools.
@jasonlopez7480
@jasonlopez7480 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Diablo guy but I’m going to look at Spyder now..
@kevinhoober1863
@kevinhoober1863 2 жыл бұрын
Rob, this video is GREAT! All the things that make this channel so awesome!
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin! Greatly appreciate it bud.
@Faulpelz55
@Faulpelz55 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I mostly use Ruko or Hilti Cobalt bits and some Milwaukee Titanium. Sorry, but not sorry for the result - as a German. 😁 We don’t get Spyder bits over here, but I will definitely try the German DeWalt bits. Hope they’re just as good in metric.
@jemarksanchez6644
@jemarksanchez6644 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely the spyder. I bought two cases sets of them, because made in the USA.
@preciousearthenterprises1577
@preciousearthenterprises1577 2 күн бұрын
Spyder all day. 1. It’s a quality made in the USA bit. 2. It’ll last me decades now that I’m semi-retired. 3. They can be sharpened. 👍🏽 It’s the metals used and angles of blade surfaces that count. It has both. 👍🏽
@parkerhammond3258
@parkerhammond3258 2 жыл бұрын
I'd choose the spyder time and time again after the impressive results and being made in the U.S. I'm very proud to see an American product laying down some numbers!
@jettschenker
@jettschenker Ай бұрын
I went and investigated at the store. As far as the Cobalt DeWalt, only the like medium to larger size s I made in Germany. The smaller sizes are made in Thailand according to the back of the packages. Not that that matters as long as they're effective.
@j-heratiochrist9105
@j-heratiochrist9105 2 күн бұрын
I have not read the zillion comments, but cleveland twist and or the greenfield drill bit names used to be good, I cannot quantify if they are still top tier, but they have traditionally been much better hands down than the box store junk, I freely admit i have not done any major drill purchases in walk in stores, and I'm sure there are some half decent ones out there like in the video, but if you want good stuff ask ask old time machinists what they order. This may be outside the parameters of your test, but just thought I would offer the folks out there some more options
@Wardmediagroup
@Wardmediagroup 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, straight to the point. Because of you showing this, I went and bought blue mach bits and drivers. I also bought several new saw blades, all Spyder. I bought Spyder blades for my jigsaw, my reciprocating saw (nice Spyder blade case) my miter saw and my table saw. In summary, this video printed me to buy over $300 worth of Spyder stuff. I did not know that they are all made in the USA. Great helpful video.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
Ward, I'm glad you loved the video! But full disclosure, I know for a fact that not all of SPYDER's products are built here in the USA yet. They're working on it, which is more than I can say for many others. So you can support their efforts by buying their products for sure. But if you're only interested in spending money on Made In the USA, then you'll need to check the label on each SPYDER product you choose. I do hope you get the same great life out of your SPYDER products, that we've got out of ours, and appreciate you supporting Made In The USA products. It's hard to do that with power tools, but there are many great bits, blades, and hand tools still made here.
@Wardmediagroup
@Wardmediagroup 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow Got it, thank you.
@IRAKLICHIKHLADZE
@IRAKLICHIKHLADZE 2 жыл бұрын
Rob, what happened with the great outfit your had last time. ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL EPISODE. No discrimination, performance matters. But, I personally love DeWalt drill bits.
@manmeetsmoney
@manmeetsmoney 7 ай бұрын
Leads us back to the age-old American Muscle vs. German muscle.
@disgruntledegghead6923
@disgruntledegghead6923 2 жыл бұрын
Came here from the Torque Test Channel. Pretty good review, but no KnKut? I drill a lot of HSS and boron steel doing auto collision repair. The twelve pack of 1/8" double ended bits from KnKut and a Drill Doctor are very good friends of mine. So is my Milwaukee 2703-20, but that's splitting hairs. KnKut. Made in the USA.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight Egghead! Hope you’re more gruntled in the morning!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 2 жыл бұрын
That drill they're using is running at the optimum speed for drilling a 3/16" hole into mild steel. But you still need coolant to not overheat the bit. There are certainly metal alloys that are more heat tolerant than others are. Some grinds will produce less heat than others too. This test would have come out different on a drill press using coolant. As to why I'd buy cheap bits it's because they're cheap.
@andrewk8636
@andrewk8636 2 жыл бұрын
Dewalt bits are very cheap. I got a set for like $15. Haven't had any problems with them. I usually try to use cutting oil but it's not always convenient so I drilled a ton of holes on my trailer without it and the bit still cuts like new
@flashwashington2735
@flashwashington2735 11 ай бұрын
This and pilot holes ,crayon wax like stick lube coolants. Keep bits locked away from glommers in company shop as well. Even the same! bits provided last 100x's, taken care of, longer then the ⅛ bits used by the 800 pound gorillas bouncing on the drill that's spun at 4,000 rpms.
@nakcrats1750
@nakcrats1750 Жыл бұрын
Best drill bit video I've see. After watching this I went to Lowes and bought the Spyder bits.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow Жыл бұрын
Use them for a while, then come back and tell us how they did. Our testing was obviously very limited. The true test will come as pros continue to use them on the job. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@geodude28
@geodude28 16 күн бұрын
How the drill bits after few time use??
@caligrown799
@caligrown799 6 ай бұрын
Just bought the spyder drill bit set today. Looking forward to using them.
@HartandHome
@HartandHome 2 жыл бұрын
We are building our own home right now and Spyder brand bits were THE ONLY ones that could do some of the work that we had for more than 3-5 holes. I actually stopped using mine because it was getting dull while all of its competitors are laying on the ground broken.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 2 жыл бұрын
Learning how to sharpen twist drill bits is a valuable skill. In a pinch you could do it with an angle grinder. A bench grinder is your best bet though.
@Dansk55
@Dansk55 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they made their cars as reliable as their tools. Great work!!
@DrewsBackYardMechanics
@DrewsBackYardMechanics 2 жыл бұрын
Lowe's sells CLE-LINE bits & they are also made in the good old USA I wonder how they would compare?
@ohdear4681
@ohdear4681 Жыл бұрын
This is one ifnmy favourite tool review videos. Top job.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow Жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciate that!
@alexludden6657
@alexludden6657 2 жыл бұрын
Never would have expected these. Numbers!
@froggoleavis9776
@froggoleavis9776 2 жыл бұрын
We need ProjectFarm on this !!!
@racinglightning01
@racinglightning01 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not at all surprised by the results. I've bought a few sets of those Pilot Point DeWilts, and they are some bad mamajama's.. They punch holes in steel fast, like drilling through soft wood. And a they last a long long time. 100% worth the money. Excellent review!
@arbuckleworkshop9857
@arbuckleworkshop9857 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve stuck to Milwaukee cobalt bits and haven’t looked else ware but I might look in to the German made ones cause in my opinion if you want a precision tool you go Germany, American steel if better for heavy duty applications
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone probably gets their steel from China today. Germany sold their smelters to China years ago. I watched a video here of the Chinese dismantling the plant and carting it off.
@grahamdeere9475
@grahamdeere9475 2 жыл бұрын
All I use are the cobalt Milwaukee bits as well. They're sharp, they cut fast and are easily replaceable if one breaks. More expensive bits are great, just not after 5 o'clock and it needs to be done.
@tcgly3273
@tcgly3273 2 жыл бұрын
Please do more of these types of reviews. Especially the ones nobody has ever done before!
@zijie-he
@zijie-he 2 ай бұрын
May want to use a drill press with a fixed pressure, it makes significant different. The low pressure causes heat and kills the bit quite faster.
@Sundayfunnies
@Sundayfunnies 2 жыл бұрын
I will definitely by the spider bits. They are made in the USA. Also they have the quick change 1/4".
@TheGingerWorkshop
@TheGingerWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! That was a different approach from most and i think thats a good thing. It definitely showed the B&B personality in it especially with the final results. Keep up the awesome work and hopefully you can squeeze in more of these from time to time.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud. :)
@matthewperlman3356
@matthewperlman3356 2 жыл бұрын
I'm familiar with that blue coating from lathe and mill tools; I think you would see some interesting results if you retested your top two contenders in hardened tool steel!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you trying to machine hardened tool steel? You're supposed to machine steel and then harden it.
@matthewperlman3356
@matthewperlman3356 2 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred modifications to existing parts.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewperlman3356 you're asking to do something that is inherently difficult to do. There are ways of doing it but none are easy.
@matthewperlman3356
@matthewperlman3356 2 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred that is the point. If the spiders are using the coating I believe the are, you won't see the difference until you push the nearest competitor to it's limits regarding hardness. At least a non hardened tool steel which a good cobalt but should do but not for long. I believe that with this coating the spiders will actually cut hardened tool steel. I do suggest using a drill press for this test though.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewperlman3356 I think a lot of what we saw here could be described as an edge use case. There are a lot of factors that determine if a drilling operation is successful or not. It is not as simple as chuck a bit up and go. I know if it were me and I couldn't get a bit to bore a single hole I'd be looking at the tip very closely to try to determine what is going wrong. Some bits do come with bad grinds that stop them from working. Some bits are made out of poor steel too though. I sharpen bits so I'm not a big believer in coatings. The coating is gone first time a bit gets sharpened. I guess the coating can help the margin some?
@ClericChris
@ClericChris Жыл бұрын
I remember the first hole I ever tried to drill too. No oil, cordless drill at random migrating odd angles, with undoubtedly a wide variety of pressure managed by how quick your arms started trembling with exhaustion. It may not matter though, the drill bit tips are clearly going fast enough to break the sound barrier; you can see the shock wave from the sonic boom pass through the puddles of molten steel. All this without a pilot hole. You would have been more correct if you claimed to be tig welding with drill bits, but cutting metal holes with them. Using your method to cut holes, a router would work better. They are even faster and more wobbly.
@alexalanis8077
@alexalanis8077 9 ай бұрын
Had an old man sharpen black oxide bits for years at a shop i used to work for. They were sharp enough for the job and lasted for many holes using cutting oil. Bit sharpening is a lost art. We tried a drill doctor. But the cuts were inconsistent anything under a 5/16
@darrenhenderson7076
@darrenhenderson7076 Жыл бұрын
DeWalt gold tips drill bits do me great never had a problem with them and can always buy them on sale at least 6 times a year
@paulshelley3770
@paulshelley3770 2 жыл бұрын
I never would have used even a cheap drill bit like that. I always use the center punch and cutting oil and I always check and file tips first, even on brand new bits but..... that's just me
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
As we've stated elsewhere, we were aiming to treat the bits like we expect most people to use them when they bring them home from Home Depot or Lowes. But I admire your dedication to doing it right.
@leftyz707
@leftyz707 2 жыл бұрын
Spider bro. Made in the states lets goo gets content.
@rodriguez4004
@rodriguez4004 Жыл бұрын
I think I will be switching to the Spyder's. I did start already, got me some of the augers for wood. They worked perfect.
@ericsmith4574
@ericsmith4574 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your test...I will reach out to see what other cutting tool tests you are planning.
@rikrstrongfitness
@rikrstrongfitness 2 жыл бұрын
The old saying quality over quantity. Thank you for the video, I learned a lot!
@robertfrate9738
@robertfrate9738 2 жыл бұрын
Hi rob, I understand your point, when I need to get the job done with ease, My go to is dewalt, I just hung a picture frame and I ordered the dewalt bit from Amazon, Lowe’s and hd didn’t have it, very interesting video ty, Bob,
@LvA1994
@LvA1994 2 жыл бұрын
Don't care where it's made. As long as the performance is there, I'm happy.
@EragonElda777
@EragonElda777 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this review, thanks for making it! I would go with Spyder. American made is very important to me...
@Kirkwoodjoinery
@Kirkwoodjoinery 2 жыл бұрын
Hi from Scotland, I have the spider quick change carbide tip holesaw and they are the mutts nutts. I’ve had my eye on the spider drill bit since they came out, I’ll get them at some point. China chose to make crap because there ethos is to produce crap and under cut the market.they could choose to do better I think which is why some of the Chinese bit did better than expected. They just can’t get over the cheep crap thing. That’s why it must be made in USA (not with Chinese soap alloy ), Germany although it’s been noticed that the Germans are using China (metabo ). So if I see China on it I don’t buy it. Now I got a dewalt countersink and it doesn’t say where it’s made 🤔
@defomatt2684
@defomatt2684 2 жыл бұрын
Those red helix cobalts are legit. By far the best I’ve used.
@plgard
@plgard 2 жыл бұрын
THANKS, We needed that!
@Hunteratloppshop
@Hunteratloppshop 2 жыл бұрын
Across the world, among machinists, USA, German, and Swiss made tooling is a staple of a high end shop. Niagara, drill hog, etc.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input! We've had several people in the trades tell us about brands like Drill Hog. In our case, we wanted to test whatever someone would pickup in a big box store. But if you guys like this video enough, maybe we should reach out to some of you pros, and get a list of "pro contenders" to put up against this Spyder and DeWALT.
@Hunteratloppshop
@Hunteratloppshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow here's an awesome way to test drill bits: Drill press with a weight tied to the quill feed handle. So that every bit receives perfectly even pressure, feed, angle, etc. I'd honestly pay to have access to a video that tested a wide range of drill bits. Sample size of 3 from brands like cle-line, Norseman, drill america, harbor freight, Amazon brands, etc.
@Hunteratloppshop
@Hunteratloppshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolShow if you order singles you really wouldn't have a lot of money invested in a wide spread
@mrgrimm1368
@mrgrimm1368 2 жыл бұрын
Matco Hyperstep drill bits are the best bits I've ever used. From the Mechanic side of drilling.
@andrewsalazar98
@andrewsalazar98 2 ай бұрын
Now that you have some of the winners, do a consistency test. One thing America and Germany have is a consistent power grid that can power the furnaces needed to temper steel, and when there are blackouts, you’ll see inconsistent products.
@RayW808
@RayW808 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it does, I'll try Spyder next time.
@jimivey6462
@jimivey6462 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 😯 Great test, full of surprises!
@miniripper
@miniripper 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your looking for American made but HMT turbo tips are simply insanely good!
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of those before now Gareth! Found a few videos and they look incredible! Thanks for pointing them out!
@collinsmith9941
@collinsmith9941 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it means that much, glad to hear it did good
@steveguzman6640
@steveguzman6640 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know they were made in America that's all I'm going to buy from now on. Thank you for sharing great information.
@evictioncarpentry2628
@evictioncarpentry2628 2 жыл бұрын
I've always used Dewalt titanium bits. They're readily available and work the best for me.
@andrewavellino6427
@andrewavellino6427 2 жыл бұрын
"MERICA! F*** yeah!!! I love seeing products made in America. Sorry Rob I think we should take a poll and you might be drilling some more holes. I would love to see how these bits do in some very hard metal. Anyone up for Rob drilling thousands more holes?
@jamesmarinelli2177
@jamesmarinelli2177 Жыл бұрын
Ryobi's kept breaking on me, im on internet trying to get replacements and saw your you tube video, ok Im buying Spyder from now on!!! Have to get from loews cant find on home depot site. Amazon doesnt have it only cheap ryobi. Thanks for testing !!!!!!!!!!!!
@michaeloreilly9485
@michaeloreilly9485 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a lot of bits including Spyder. I’m throwing all my bits out except for the Spyders or if I have any of the German Dewalts. I’m amazed at the the difference in performance of bits. I’m subscribed now.
@markfritz315
@markfritz315 2 жыл бұрын
I would be happy with the DeWalt German bit, the Spyder, or the Milwaukee to be honest. How many batteries on the drill did you go through? Looking at set prices now for the Spyder and DeWalt.
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
To make sure a low battery was never a factor, we swapped them out after every 72 holes. They were usually down by one bar at that point.
@imprezzs1864
@imprezzs1864 2 жыл бұрын
My girl needs to come back. You guys are an amazong team.
@maverickman009
@maverickman009 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for throwing up the major brands against something made in the USA and letting us see who takes the cake. I will gladly buy Spyder bits over any of the others now
@jerrodnewsome1495
@jerrodnewsome1495 2 жыл бұрын
Wow now this is true dedication 1000's of holes to see who was the best. Yes Made in U.S.A means alot to most ppl I know & work with or around. It means we are helping support our ppl here at home. You don't see patriotic people anymore they don't love this country.
@TheDTAnderson
@TheDTAnderson 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff thanks for the review!!!
@LGHTSPD675
@LGHTSPD675 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and well done, but as you admit far from a perfect test and doesn't incorporate many other variables for the durability and usefulness of a drill bit. However, the last question in the video is important for all to understand. Origin/Manufacturer doesn't matter, always choose the highest performer vs. overall cost. If you don't, then you might as well not believe in our American system. Our nation thrives on innovation, not nationalism. America is built on the idea that the best will win. A healthy dose of competition is what keeps us on our toes, if you purposefully select a product ignoring the poorer performance then you are doing that company no favors. Though your intent maybe altruistic, the reality is they will continue to produce a lower quality product because sales remain high/competitive. The longer these companies are artifcially held up and supported, the less they are aware of their need for an innovative advantage and change. If it goes too long, it may end up being too late for that company to have a chance to change. Just like Mom and Dad said, you have to finish your vegetables before dessert. Or put more realistic, brutal, and unemotional, it is the Law of Nature - only the fittest shall survive. Pain makes us fit and therefore it is necessary for survival. The only way they will become aware is by feedback or by pocketbook- can you guess which one generates change faster?
@sage5296
@sage5296 2 жыл бұрын
Even if the spyder was beat out by 15%, I think that really could be inconclusive, as given the variation I'm sure bit to bit variation could be still a fair amount even with the higher quality bit. I think the takeaway is that both the german made dewault bit and the spyder are good buys tho
@ToolShow
@ToolShow 2 жыл бұрын
That variation issue really needs to be addressed with some VERY time-consuming, and VERY expensive testing. I might be up to testing the top Spyder, DeWALT and Milwaukee from our tests. I'll have to see how many examples of each we bought. But I agree. Any bit that CAN do 200+ holes (this was some seriously hard metal) is pretty spectacular.
@loganbente6459
@loganbente6459 2 жыл бұрын
I have a set of Norseman drill bit 44170 for work. There made in the us as well. They are fantastic.
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