Best Locking Bit Holder?

[@Korupt0r]

The Wiha CentroFix is definitely the best bit holder I’ve ever had used and the bonus is that it also takes Japanese bits from Vessel, Anex and etc.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Will have to look into it… a couple recommendations for it so far 👍

[@woltergrant]

This is very true, you really need to try one of these if you have not. The wiha problem is the wobble of the bit holder itself not the bits it holds on to. This leads to having to order about 10 and find the best out of those and send the others back. Talking to leaders in the industry, this is a common problem and will not stop being one until a standard is developed. “The problem of concentricity… The shaft of the bit sleeve is hexagonal and any deviation on one side will cause vibration. Slight vibration will not affect the daily use of screws on electric drills and screwdrivers. At present, several international bulk manufacturers have not set industry standards for concentricity and do not inspect concentricity before leaving the factory.” Even better bit holders than the Wiha are the “Milwaukee Quick-Lok” three bead universal double head and the bit holder that comes with the “Vessel GS38P01CCS” bit set. These two are the only bit holders on the market truly compatible with both 13 mm and 9.5 mm detent bits. They are also the only two truly universal bit holders working with both single ended and double ended bits as well as E6 and C6 bit types. The problem with them is they’re both only available in China and you have to order them from there. Lots of information here, but I thought I would share because it took me forever to figure this out, and no one seems to know or have the answers.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@woltergrant appreciate you taking the time to share all the info 👍👍

[@TheDankFarmer]

I love my wera bit holder, Ive had no issues in my m12 impact - but I dont do anything too crazy. They make a longer shank Rapidapter - it has graduations notched in so you have adjustable length and fits in the klein

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I think that will be the most “I like” comment on this video. I have people comment about them all the time. I just recently got one that was not part of a screwdriver and able to be put in stuff. Good to know on the longer. I actually saw them when searching for the picture after I filmed

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

Ive broken 2 wera extensions then I got the impaktor with the ring magnet and it works for deck or open like situations. I tend to favor the smallest usable and appropriate solution which is the wiha now formaly thr dewalt.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@MattHmm-rq6dn 👍👍

[@geraldroberts4721]

I really enjoy this type of video 😊. I agree, there is no do all and I think that's why most of us have a "bit" of everything in our arsenal. Thanks for sharing.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@geraldroberts4721 appreciate it. It takes a village of tools to get the job done 😂

[@sloanNYC]

Great breakdown. I never took the time to compare, just kept pliers ready to pull bits out! Thanks!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Appreciate it 👍👍 They are always either hard to get out, or come out in the fastener every single time 😂

[@mickbrown942]

Great review. Wrestled with getting my bits out several times this week- add that to the heat and humidity and my irritation level maxed out. Will be buying one of these this week. I’ll read thru the comments on everyone’s opinions but really anything is better than my current one.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍.. they are a superior option in my opinion. Like I said, if you haven’t used one you will be happy with any of them

[@AlexanderGreene-rm6nf]

The key difference in why I like the Milwaukee is the fact that to remove the bit you pull the collar towards the front. This helps in two ways, removing bits is easier one handed, and when drilling a hole of larger diameter than the bit holder itself, ejecting your bit into the wall cavity when pulling out is less likely. Ask me how I lost an $80 dollar step bit :/

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Losing a bit can still happen with them… I’ve had it happen too. It is at least a little less likely in my opinion than a regular one.

[@stringlarson1247]

Ha. I don't think I need to ask. Telescoping magnet ? I keep one around also a large magnet tied with a length of paracord. :) I like the Wera and Milwaukee pull-release for exactly the reason you describe.

[@RobertoDominguez-cj6fu]

Dewalts locking bit holder won project farms showdown for best bit holder, so your assessment makes sense.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I hadn’t seen that one, I will have to look it up… now I feel like I’m a little smarter than I thought I was 😂

[@RobertoDominguez-cj6fu]

It truly must be the best if two unbiased youtube tool channels ranked it #1 😂 now im sold! About to order one right now.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@RobertoDominguez-cj6fu 😂

[@robertcasey3528]

They're all pretty much the same.

[@russalbright4213]

I am a huge fan of the Apex bit holders. They are not locking, but I have never had any issue with needing pliers to get bits out. Great magnet, available in multiple lengths, and I have never broke one in forty years of using them. They are on the expensive side, but to me, worth every penny. You can just tell by the heft of them that they are well made.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍… I believe I have one of those I bought… but it’s for Japan bits I bought on accident. I may have to try that out

[@bulshavix6]

I use the dewalt wobble. You have to take some bits out w pliers but it never falls out and the wobble is always the first thing I try. It saves so much time switching to the right angle. Also it makes it so you can get on way more stuff easily than a straight bit holder even if you have room

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I e got one of those too. I like it better than the Milwaukee. The Milwaukee like these is “beefier”, but the big ball makes it a little hard to get in places.

[@girishkukadia1293]

Nice comparison, just what i was looking for. Thank you.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

You are welcome… hope it helped 👍👍

[@sheirzadhosseini6825]

Morgan, I’m a Milwaukee guy. But, without a doubt when it comes to the bits and bit accessories by far DEWALT is the most innovative - as an example just look at their pivoting bit holder. No one else is doing that. I also think for the price their bits and bit accessories provide the most bang for the buck. Still a Milwaukee guy, but I have to give credit where credit is due.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I have always had a ton of Dewalt Bits. Back when I was using their boxes I was buying all sorts of kits to get parts. I have enough Dewalt bits to last a crew of 20 people for their careers 😂

[@hachi-rokuperformancegroup3987]

Black and decker put out their swivel/pivoting bit holder about 20 years ago. Had one and liked it enough to get one for my dad. They must have the patient on it because if only seen b&d and dewalt with it available

[@jasonstorie8740]

I’ve been an appliance service tech for about 30 years and I use the pivoting dewalt as one of my bit drivers and I love it for certain applications but I hate trying to get the small bits out

[@natepeterson7145]

​@@jasonstorie8740I'm an appliance technician also and I think DeWalt bits are one of the best but I've been trying WIHA t15 and haven't broken one out of the three pack in about a couple months. I usually end up breaking one a month on Milwaukee and DeWalt

[@tannerwest6823]

Irwin also makes a great one. Been using the same one for a couple years now and it’s been through hell and back. I’ve also enjoyed using the Diablo 6 inch bit holder recently

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I think I had an Irwin one at some point that came with some spade bits

[@zanehamilton1720]

I have the Dewalt one in the 3,6, and 12 inch versions. I use them quite a bit and they are very handy. My drill bits have the 1/4 bit end on them so if I need to drill a hole through a thicker wall I just pop the bit in the 12” and go. I also have some 12” driver bits with the 1/4” on them to where I can put the 12” bit holder in my Wera bit holder handle and put the 12” bit in to reach screws way behind something. I would even say I use the bitholders in my Wera handle as much if not more than in a power tool because I am not a fan of individual screwdrivers lol.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I have all the Dewalt ones and use them pretty much the same as you 👍

[@JC_1095]

I’ve been using those Dewalt bit holders for years. I like the fact that they actually work with wiha double sided bits. There is a little springy up and down play, and it wont let the bit holder lock, but you can make it work. Not a lot of other bit holders that are compatible with them, unfortunately.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I hadn’t tried any of those… appreciate the info 👍

[@coryvanliere2027]

I believe the wiha centrofix will work with the double sided style of bit. They also work with the leatherman style half bits. Best locking style of bit holder available as far as different styles of bits

[@JC_1095]

@@coryvanliere2027 I heard the centrofix is lopsided or spins weird with an impact or drill. I wonder if the slimfix takes their double sided bits. The bit holder in the wiha ultradriver works perfectly. IDK why they don’t sell that as a standalone bit holder

[@bulshavix6]

I use the dewalt wobble every day. It’s by far the best and not in this video

[@stringlarson1247]

I have an OLD dewalt that has a sleeve for screws. It was originally for drywallers before all the magnetic versions came out. I still use it for longer screws in awkward spots when a magnet won't help. Not sure if they still make them.

[@duncdunc76]

Great info. Ive used the Dewalts for over 3 years professionally to build outdoor structures and they work well but the release collars always fall off with extended impact use. They still work like you said, and most of the time I can still pull the spring retainer back by hand. But the collar will fall off after time if you use them on an impact extensively garunteed. But like you said the thin barrel is nice for getting into holes and for using as a drill bit extension for drilling deep holes with any reasonably sized drill bit diameter that is larger then the bit holder, like 3/8".

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Agree, that’s when I’ve had issues too. Usually heavy framing applications. They may not last the longest for anyone with high impact applications, but as Matt Hmm commented, at only $9 it’s the cost of doing business if they work for you

[@donjuan8450]

The only thing I dont like about the locking bit adapter is if you are using the bit to fasten or drill somethin through a small opening and into a confined area, when you pull the drill bit holder out of the small opening, it can potentially be unlocked inadvertently. Ive had to use an impact drill to work within door frames and door strikes to install access control door systems and this was an issue.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Yeah certain ones go a certain direction. The Milwaukee and WERA you push up so it won’t catch going in a hole, but coming out… then it’s the opposite on the other two. I’ve had more problems with loosing bits with non locking type, but like I said.. it depends on what you do. You are working in tighter places than me most of the time. Appreciate your thoughts 👍

[@alvinbk92]

Rapidadptor is my favorite for the shortness and decent magnet. I love the way the wiha ejects the bit and how slim it is. Wiha would be my favorite if it had a better magnet, it can't even hold a screw.

[@alvinbk92]

Milwaukee feels cheap

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I feel like the Milwaukee feels the beefiest of the bunch… I agree on your Wiha and WERA assessment 👍👍

[@homerj1640]

Festool sells some of these like the Wera (probably made by Wera) they make one for Centrotec chucks but another for the Tid18 which is the more common E6 style and impact rated. I'm not sure if you can purchase just the bit holder alone but a small set is called Bit cassette BT-IMP SORT4 (item number 204384). It does have the Festool price of $42.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Festool loves their tools 😂… they are pretty good though Appreciate it

[@shakyzeg]

My research several years ago determined the Wera is impact rated. I wish I could find the reference I used back then. I would have sworn it was their catalog back then. I paid $7.99 for my Wera, so it has been a couple years. I have 15-20 of these adapters from many different brands, including the full magnetic Wera. I have 3 of the Wera you showed. They are my only duplicates for a reason. I use them in my impact driver 99% of the time, because they are easier than the built in 1/4 holder. I haven't tried that Milwaukee. I'll check it out! Thanks for a great video!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Thanks for the WERA info… $7.99 is a good price. The Milwaukees are pretty good. I haven’t broke one yet

[@Metal_seer]

@@shakyzeg Maybe so, but Wera makes an "Impaktor" holder for impact bits. Mine was delivered today.

[@Metal_seer]

Thanks for the review. I just ordered the Wera Impaktor, which is impact rated and has a magnetic ring to hold the screw in place. Its negatives are it is expensive ($24) and bulky/heavy.

[@Metal_seer]

For the longer shaft impact bits, DeWalt sells a magnetic sleeve which is only $7. I just bought 4 for $20, so I leave them on the bits I most frequently use, as they are tight to get on and off.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@Metal_seer I haven’t tried that one yet… I just realized recently WERA had impact/non impact setups

[@JesusRamos-zs3zq]

Have the 3 inch wiha bit, its the best bit ever!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@JesusRamos-zs3zq I wish this Wiha was magnetized enough to hold screws, the size is the best

[@ST-0311]

Harbor Freight has a Hercules 3" impact rated quick release bit holder. It has a forward release collet styled sleeve, and pops the bit up on release. It also has good magnetic hold. It's held up for over a year of moderate use without issues. I also use the Diablo 6" and 12" locking bit holders when I need the reach, and they have been great. They use a rear release mechanism. They are not magnetic if that's a deal breaker. That said, my go-to is the DeWalt. I've been using it in impact drivers for a year and a half, and haven't broken it yet. I love the extra side clearance due to the slim design. I keep looking at all the magnetic hold bit holders in my bit drawer wondering why I still have them. I haven't touched one since I got the DeWalt. I also have the DeWalt pivoting bit holder. It's good to have in a pinch, but also a PIA to use. It uses c-ring retention, and it holds bits in really tight. However, if you're using 1" bits plan on extracting them with your Cobras. It's like a dentist pulling teeth to get them out.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I have that pivoting one as well. I am the same with the regular bit holders. I used to keep them when I was using the Milwaukee for their slimness, but since I got the Dewalts I haven’t been using them either

[@Intoxacajun]

I've gravitated toward the Dewalt locking and carry the long and short in my bags. Like the smaller diameter. I like the Wiha but not holding screws with magnet put it below the Dewalt for me. But for extensive impact driving I have to go with dedicated one piece bit drivers.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@Intoxacajun your comment is pretty much how I feel. The Milwaukee ones have held up in the extensive work for me, but sometimes they don’t fit in tight places. Appreciate your thoughts 👍👍

[@jeffs2809]

I like the dewalt, just because it fits in the smaller spaces. I can’t speak to durability, tho since I have several of the same size that I swap around. I’ve just started using the Milwaukee locking version & ran into some problems with it not fitting into some places. I’ll give it another go though, since right in the middle of a project with a lot of room to work right now. I will say that I absolutely despise the magnetic Milwaukee versions. I leave a bit behind more often than not with those things & only use them if I can’t find any thing else.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Yeah the Milwaukee magnetic ones seem to let the bit go, and the Dewalt likes to hang on to them. The Dewalt gets my nod too mainly for the size. I use the Milwaukee ones when I’m framing generally now, but you never know when you will need to get in a tight spot

[@W00dy_NL]

After watching a bunch of vids from you lately I've just subscribed. I like your honest opinions and you show everything nice on cam as your talking about the tools. For me the number 1 is the Wera Rapidaptor, so nice to use. I have longer version in the box with my most used smaller drill/driver. I think it's 100 mm long but could be 125 can't remember. For tight place I use the Wiha. But mostly use a separate magnetizer on my bits before. I wish they made it longer... Good to know the DeWalt is available in a longer size!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I saw that WERA had some longer ones when I went to get the picture after filming. I feel like mechanically it works the best out of all of them. Appreciate the subscribe and the compliment 👍.

[@RileyKnifeandTool]

Nice layout of some great options. I just ordered the dewalt off of your link to try out. My current favorite is the Wera due to the magnet and ease of bit changes. It is expensive though. If the dewalt magnet is better, though, it'll probably be my new go to.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I really like both, but I keep them all over and getting them nearly two for one makes a big difference.

[@DarkWoodPicks]

Milwaukee, Wiha, DeWalt, Wera. I have been using the Wiha one for a little over a year. Absolutely love it. Mine is magnetic so that's concerning. Usually goes between my M12 installation driver and my 4v screwdriver. I like how it's slightly slimmer than the DeWalt.

[@DarkWoodPicks]

I want to add that if I have a 6-in or longer extension that I am going with the DeWalt. Reasoning is if you stick the Milwaukee into a hole and go to pull it out, unless you tape it there's a high chance that it ends up kicking the bit out.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@DarkWoodPicks yeah if my Wiha was magnetic it would be great, but all my screws fall right off. You are right on the longer ones

[@toolswithtim]

Since all of those seem to have drawbacks, you might want to try the Bosch, they're impact rated and pretty compact!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@toolswithtim 👍👍. Thanks

[@three-phase562]

I do prefer the slimline versions of the locking bit holders. Gedore / Carolus do a similar version of the Wiha / Dewalt , but I have only ever seen it available in their kits. Not sure if the Wra TriTorsion are locking versions or if they are just magnetic, not picked one up to look at yet.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I like the slimmer options myself. Sometimes the slimness doesn’t matter, but when it does.. it does

[@vince613]

I really enjoy using the Wera holder, however, I tend to back off it when I really need a workhorse. Milwaukee holders have held strong over the years. Diablo makes a really solid holder as well, and their design is almost identical to Milwaukee.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@vince613 i agree, I have yet to have a Milwaukee like the one in the video break

[@thomaskubiak7019]

I have a few different ones. The Milwaukee is the one I use the most as it gets best up. My others one I use is a Diablo version. It’s ok, nothing to write home about. I believe the Wera ones come in 2 different styles. If you have their Impaktor series the. They can be used in impacts. Otherwise I believe they are just for the screwdriver handles.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@thomaskubiak7019 I like the Milwaukee one too, it has been my most durable

[@ronaldelkins7287]

I’ve got several Milwaukees and really like them. I recently got a Hart from Walmart…it’s identical to the Milwaukee. It’s got to be made by the same supplier. It’s less than $5.00.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I need to go to a Walmart tool section. People have told me they have gotten better.

[@GustyOinker]

Another great comparison and opinions. Thank you 😊

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Appreciate it 👍👍

[@randallanthony2776]

My favorite so far has been the Diablo ones. I have the 6”, but they have a 12” long and around a 2 or 3 I would say

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I’ve seen them, I believe I have one in my Spade Bit set. They look a little like the Milwaukee ones don’t they?

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

Bosch and diablo are same company same thing besides blue anodized vs red anodized. Some of thoes were made in Switzerland then Taiwan (maybe China by now). The milwaukee last I checked were China and they are different enough. Functionally to me there all the same do the same thing don't break similar size. You are not missing much by not having the other ones.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@MattHmm-rq6dn 👍

[@maintenanceessentials]

Totally off topic, i know. But im curious as to if you have a favorite Veto Bag and maybe(just an idea) do a video on your 2-3 favorite bags/pouches and why they work for you. Ive grown tired of my current set up and since you and i seemingly do similar work, im curious as to what you're go to load out is bag/pouch wise.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I may look into doing that. Currently I’m using the MP2X and the SBLD the most, but I’m also still in the tryout stage. I’ve kinda started using the MP pouches as a “go bag” that also clips on my hip. I’ve screenshot your suggestion, good thought 👍

[@stringlarson1247]

I cut the velcro pocket flap off both my Veto TP2 and TP3 to get extra space since I didn't need/use a secured pocket. I also attached a 1" wide leather strap on the belt loop part so I don't have to mess with the tote handle when wearing on a full belt. It just tucks out of the way, and when I take off the belt, it's there (same with my leather parts pouch on the other side). This makes it easy to carry the fully loaded belt and keep everything upright. A good leather punch and Chicago screws with some Loctite (red) make it easy to experiment with rather than using rivets.

[@Hazan1fan]

The fix for the non-magnetic Wiha, is a diamond coated bit. In my opinion they grip even better than magnetic…(Also, Wera does make an impact rated bit holder)

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍.. yeah there are certain things where magnets are important, but a good bit is generally always a better option even if it is magnetic.

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

Thoes work well but I tend to have that stick factor wear out quickly. But I do keep one around for the just in case situations.

[@Jesus_Strong]

The Milwaukee and Dewalt I both use, I use the 6 inch version of the Dewalt as well which have broke easier than the smaller ones, I do have the 12 inch one for only tight areas but I have snapped the locking mechanism in the past. The larger size Milwaukee are great if you’re not in tight areas and all around but doing electrical work I find that Dewalt works best for me. On the Vessel USB I use the Anex double ended bit which I’ve only found on Amazon Japan but they come in a few different lengths but I think I bought the 2 or 3 inch for the Vessel and I put a vessel magnetic slip over to super magnetize the bit.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

It’s good to see (not good I guess… but I know it’s not something I’m doing 😂) that I’m not the only one with the Dewalt issue. For as much as I’ve used them, and at $9… it’s not a dealbreaker for me. It is still the “most” useful in my opinion, but the others aren’t bad. I also still use my Milwaukee’s a lot. I have almost bought those Vessel magnets a couple times. Haven’t yet.

[@Jesus_Strong]

@@MORGANSMaintenance only reason I got the Vessel magnet attachments was because they were red to fit the color scheme but the Makita ones work just as good, those Anex double ended bits are already magnetized but the magnetic attachments are a game changer!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@Jesus_Strong 👍👍.. I often buy based on color myself 😂

[@Jesus_Strong]

@@MORGANSMaintenance 😂great minds think alike!

[@myHVAClife]

I use the Dewalts in my HVAC BAG. I have had no issues with them.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍 I’ve had a few break, but there are some jobs I do where it puts them through it..

[@lockhammer3481]

I have a theory if you climb a ladder the magnetic bit holders get weaker the higher you go, the bit will stick in the screw and come out of the bit holder only to fall to the ground below in the grass, bushes, cat litter box, toilet, etc. I only use locking bit holders when on a ladder. I actually prefer buying the bits longer like 3 inch and only use the magnetic bit holders to hold the screw at ground level.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

The screws hanging into the fasteners is the biggest issue of standard ones for me, more than even the bits being hard to get out.

[@VRCM_Skywarn_XUSA]

1/4" Ratchet/Socket bit locker/holder. Like the Pittsburgh 1/4" swivel ratchet, with the 1/4" Wera socket/bit holder. Thats what I did. I couldn't find a decent, socket version bit holder. Wera seemed the only one decent. And it costs, $30 plus shipping. Because my area, is a battlezone.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Good idea on the socket/bitholder combo 👍

[@nachoisme]

I use a Makita with a magnet and a clip. Works well and never lost a bit but still have to pull a bit to get it out but not too hard. Very slim and they come in 2 1/8 (or 5/8), 6 and 12”. Works for me🤷‍♂️ they are similar to the Milwaukee but I think they are just better quality

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Makita are one of the boys I haven’t tried a lot of… even though I hear they are some of the best. I have bought so many Dewalt and Milwaukee sets that I never buy many other ones to try

[@stringlarson1247]

I've got a couple of magnet sleeves - Makita and Milwaukee. They work quite well with a the longer bits.

[@timothygrubb85]

I like the Dewalt bit holder and started buying them after hearing about them on one of your other videos. On a side note, if you use those cheap drywall screw dimple bits you should check out the drywall screw setter from Rocky Mountain Twist. It does a much better job of making a clean dimple and the bit is made in America.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Appreciate it, I will try it. I normally use my Drywall Gun, but for small jobs sometimes I just use those. I tried the Bosch version and didn’t care for it

[@Jonytofu]

I'm looking for a locking bit holder with a self retracting sleeve. It doesn't seem to exist. At this stage I'd rather give up the locking feature to have the sleeve and just use a regular magnetic but holder with a retracting sleeve

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I haven’t seen one of those myself, would be pretty handy

[@carnold.knowledge]

Once I found the PB Swiss PB 450.M (magnetic + ring), I never looked back. Not cheap, but it’s a BIFL type of product.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I have only used PB Swiss with just the magnet. I hadn’t seen those. Their “just a magnet” is pretty impressive.

[@OnusBones]

VERY interesting and useful. For me, magnetism is a big deal. A couple of things worthy of investigation: 1) magnets don't like sharp blows, and will lose their magnetism. What happens to any / all of these in an impact driver over time, i.e. how quickly do the magnets become useless? And, 2) they aren't locking, but how is the magnet strength and durability of the Malco and Klein flip-bits, with the 1/4" one you can partially pull out to hold a bit?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I have used the Dewalts and Milwaukee both a lot in framing with 3” screws and lags. They have both kept decent magnetism. My MALCO’S have all been phenomenal.. haven’t had issues personally with Klein, but others have mentioned having problems with magnets breaking in comments

[@UnderBakedOverEngineered]

If you use 29mm bits like the Wiha Maxxtor or Makita Shorton you can use no adaptor for the truly shortest length.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍.. appreciate the info

[@mrweisu]

Can you get these locking bit holders in a screwdriver handle?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@mrweisu there are lots of handles out there that you can put them in, but they don’t sell them in one, except the WERA

[@jonathanrose456]

I’ve got the wiha & using it with wiha bits, it’s a solid magnetic connection

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@jonathanrose456 it magnetized the bit if you use Wiha bits? As far holding screws?

[@jonathanrose456]

@@MORGANSMaintenance yes 👍 the wiha bits are a little longer on the base

[@jaydoherty8402]

Hey Joey, I was looking at bit holders after watching, and I stumbled on some new Malcos in 3/8 and 7/16 size. I thought they might be fake (I guess I’m skeptical on that sometimes), but I found them on the official Malco website. I probably won’t pick one up right away (got enough flip sockets for now with all the Klein ones recently), but maybe down the line since I like their flip sockets and I know you do too. Maybe other people know about these already, but it was news to me that Malco had 7/16.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I hadn’t seen that one.. only a 3/8 and 5/16… will check it out. Thanks

[@stevenr5762]

Where did you get the grey tray in your Milwaukee Packout?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@stevenr5762 I picked it up of Etsy Tool Haul Etsy Edition - 3D Printed Accessories for Milwaukee, Dewalt, & Nohlster #tools #milwaukee kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWKsYZaeeL11iLs

[@stevenr5762]

Thanks

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

As for the milwaukee/bosch/diablo thick style ones they tended to be marketed as spade bit ready and that's true extra tough. I've even adapted them to hole saws with a adapter before still won't break. I don't tend to use rhe wera ones much though they do lock onto jis double sided bits and other odd things. I have since gotten solutions for the jis 13mm issue engineer dr22 and tone has a fantastic one (thanks for rhe commenter that lead me onto that on the vessel video). I have destroyed a few of thr dewant collars but if you really love the form factor it's just cost of doing business. Thoes wiha I turned you onto work great and I don't really notice the magnet thing. I have a box of 1in wera acr bits (serrations kind) were pretty cheap on az. For all other sizes vessel sells bulk amounts of there bits made for the usa market. I kinda like that 1 1/4 slightly longer format. We buy them by the box for t10s (grk trim screws) as they last the longest over 1000s of tiny screw heads. I do suggest trying wera acr or the vessel 1ish in bit sets if you haven't already (holders garbage made in China but all the bits are japan). Just recently I dumped a massive amount of random milwaukee dewalt and many other brands bits into a scrap bucket. No more am I'm gonna store stuff that could cause me issues or I don't like. The box of dewalt tips cost 6 dollars maybe if you find better solution I say move on. As for your magnetic issue bummer that's a sticking point for you maybe try a better bit? It's something I didn't even notice actually while in use but I do appreciate the even overall shorter nature of the wiha besides the slimmer profile. Glad you had enough to make a video out of it look forward to more!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I’ll still use the Wiha, I mostly was disappointed because it is claiming magnetic right on the package and doesn’t do it. I like the size of it over Dewalt. I have a box of the ACR bits that’s I’ve been trying 👍

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

If you need more video ideas I came across Wurkkos HD01 it works well. It's a half price olight arcfeild pro with a side flood light. It's worth a try for under or around 30 bucks the best clone of that stilyle I've ever seen. Also maxedc has a video if your curious I ordered before his video and it's good stuff.

[@Environmenthrall]

The Wiha is my favorite, mine came from the little GoBox ratchet set. However, DeWalt would be my first choice for cost alone. The slimmer form factor makes them win by a landslide; everything else is practically worthless to me.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@Environmenthrall yeah slimness is pretty important at times for most people. I basically use my Milwaukee ones for framing, then use Dewalt for everything else

[@briankeen1167]

Love the review. I want to know where you got that gray bit holder inside your packout?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I picked it up of Etsy kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWKsYZaeeL11iLssi=a4yPOVH0zISKPEpA

[@Charlie-xw7od]

I've had 3 of the dewalt ones two of the locking systems failed I was using them to extend paddel bits for drilling though I believe the 6 inch long style dewalt locking bit holders not too happy with em one I sheared the bottom of the e6 anvil off in and could not get it out even used jb weld and a broke scroll saw blade I ended up just throwing it out

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I’ve only had the sleeves pull off mine. That leaves it so the spring won’t pull on the lock. I put those particular ones through a lot of framing though. Appreciate the feedback 👍

[@Charlie-xw7od]

Yeah I wrote this comment before you showed your broken ones I was like it's not just me !

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

Yep I have a graveyard of them too dosent mean they don't have there limitations. Cost of doing business if you love them.

[@juangallardo2218]

DeWalt DW2507 is the best by far Greetings from Chile!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I will check that out 👍👍

[@MadaraUCHIHA-hy9xe]

It's so frustrating when it get stuck, specially in hex driver, Me too i liked The DeWalt and wiha model, un less you work in tight space in the other side now days there are more Compact/stubby impact driver. By the way i thougt im the only one who eat bit holder for breakfast 😂, Thanks for sharing

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@MadaraUCHIHA-hy9xe it is frustrating 👍👍

[@search_eternal]

I like the Dewalt ones. But would like to try the milwaukee

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

The Milwaukee ones work well and are really durable… just won’t fit in certain places. I mostly use them for framing and things

[@Mack_Dingo]

Wera '897/4 IMP' Impaktor holder looks slimmer than '897/4 IMP R' Impaktor holder. Maybe try that one?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍.. I didn’t even know they had impacktor options

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

At least 4? Ones a depth set one(don't buy it junk), the one he said a ring magnet version (good but thick) and a extended sleeve style. If anyone has variety wera does!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@MattHmm-rq6dn I haven’t got into WERA much other than just screwdrivers. I need to dig into their tool catalog a little more

[@leonardpaciora5039]

Nice one Sir!!!!

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Thank you 👍👍

[@sethnerowski85]

What’s the point of a locking bit holder on an impact when they have a locking bit holder built in?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

So you can use 1” bits and have magnetism. You can achieve that with longer bit, but sometimes that’s not easy to use

[@ionut5316]

try Wiha CentroFix or old Festool Centrotec (which was made by Wiha)

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍

[@Metal_seer]

A simple test a superior bit holder will pass: Insert the bit into a 3 inch deck screw and hold it upside down. If it is a superior bit holder, the screw will not fall off. You will be able to screw in the screw without holding the screw with your other hand. Holders with mag rings can do this.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@Metal_seer very true 👍👍

[@Metal_seer]

@@MORGANSMaintenance Ryobi showed a video of its HP driver drill attached to a deck screw on a 4x4 slowly rotated until the drill was upside down, without falling off. Ryobi called it "the rotisserie test." An independent guy verified it in a video, but couldn't do it with other brands. Not that it has any practical value. It just shows how well the components can fit together.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@Metal_seer I guess that’s a good name for it 😂

[@ElectroAtletico]

🤣🤣🤣 Holy coincidence! This afternoon, prior to watching this vid, I drove past the HF and said to myself "....I need a new magnetic bit holder". So I got a HERCULES one for $5. Does the job.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Is it slim.. or thicker?

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

The one they have on the website that applies to you is girthy like the milwaukee/bosch/diablo dosent look like your cup of tea.

[@ElectroAtletico]

@@MORGANSMaintenance ..to be honest, it's just like the thin DeWalt basic bit holder. For $5 I'm happy. If it breaks, it's just $5.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@ElectroAtletico 👍👍

[@stevep1373]

Wera has a longer version if needed.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@stevep1373 👍👍

[@CygnusRising]

The Wera Rapidaptor *is not* impact rated. They have the 'Impaktor' line that's impact-rated bit-holders, but they're not the same as the Rapidaptors. I recently got one of the Malco 'BHE' bit holders, and they're pricy but impact rated and the *pure quality* you expect from Malco. It might not be markedly better than the Milwaukee, time will tell -- speaks to how solid those Milwaukee ones are for their price, honestly. You can buy just the Rapidaptor with just the holder in two sizes -- 2" and 4". I use the short Rapidaptor in the M12 Installation driver so I can use 1" bits with the 1/4" hex head, and the long Rapidaptor in a Wiha Centrofix handle (again, so I can use 1" insert bits) like a conventional screwdriver (or when I need more reach on the installation driver)

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Appreciate the info.. 👍👍 The MALCO’S are nice

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

Thoes malcos look scary close to the diablo one and made in Taiwan could be the same oem. If they were made in the usa it would sway me to ordering a few since even the flip nuts nutsetters are Taiwan now. Price wise there about the same as well.

[@CygnusRising]

​@@MattHmm-rq6dn On close inspection, you might be right. I can't find a *good* photo, but I think they have the same patent number ending in 1523 on them. Not sure if the Malco ones are assembled in the US or something like that. Either way, I generally think pretty highly of Diablo/Freud stuff as a good mid-tier brand that tends to hit a really good price:performance sweet spot of 'paying a bit more for a significantly better product' so if the Malco and Diablo are identical products that's not a terrible thing in this case... It looks like I might have paid a bit of a Malco name tax due to not noticing this; the Diablo ones look to be cheaper, although Diablo doesn't have a 3" shorty like the Malco from the looks of it. Sooo, maybe buy the 6"/12" Diablo combo pack, and the 3" Malco so you have the full set? Also the usual asterisk that 'not everything that comes out of Taiwan/China is bad'; 711L makes *great* stuff out of Taiwan.

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

I appreciate the analysis there and if it was pressing enough I would hunt that down but it's a few bucks. I think people are more oh cool thoes are made by the same people/plant out of curiosity. Taiwan has some of the best metal forging (sockets wrenches bits ect.) on a economical scale in the world. For me they often mean reasonable quality China on the other hand is made to a price point. Veto bags are fantastic but the price point is reflected. Country of origin is definitely no sure thing these days so we gotta be good shoppers and do our due diligence.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@MattHmm-rq6dn I agree on the country of origin. I like supporting local when I can, but any more “made in the USA” is not quite what it used to be, the same as getting your food at Wendy’s stinks. It’s part the company, but it’s also the quality of the employees many times more than anything.

[@Kenny-mg1ls]

Diablo makes some that seem rather similar to milwaukee and atleast the longer are cheaper aswell

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

They are similar 👍

[@Stefan_Kawalec]

Wera Rapidaptor is the best non-impact. Milwaukee is the best impact. They both are quite wide, but it's normal for locking bit holders.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

The mechanics of the WERA definitely releases the bit the best. It’s like it’s just sitting and takes no effort.

[@Stefan_Kawalec]

@@MORGANSMaintenance And it's funny how shitty Wera Impaktor is at the same time. I have 3 or 4 Rapidaptors and they last ages. Impactor stopped holding bits after 2 months. Good thing about Rapidaptor is the releasing mechanism works no matter how much dirt and dust is in the bit holder. And when it gets really dirty one squirt of WD40 fixes it.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

@@Stefan_Kawalec good to know on the Impactors.. I was looking at those last night

[@rustangrex9833]

Bought a DeWalt for a coworker, couldn't waste any more time doubling back to find which screw his bit got left in.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

It is nice that they don’t come out… I’ve had that happen myself 😂

[@ru9368]

Diablo bit holder!! Check it out

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I believe I have one that I got with some spade bits. It is pretty good 👍

[@TheJensss]

For us that uses drills and screws the whole day not using a bit holder at all the absolute best. Instead we use 75 mm long bits and only torx screws.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍… I’m a big fan of the torx

[@harlanborders943]

The magnetic bit holders fill with trash and the ring style always brake. Have a couple like your wera bit holder but they are kinda big and bulky want fit in some spots so far weha is my favorite style

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I think that’s more the reason the bits are hard to get out… small trash. The bits pulling out and staying in the fasteners is annoying too.

[@ronmcrae7216]

If I am going into a small hole I want a good magnet.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Agree… and a good bit 👍

[@donangel7287]

I don't know whether or not you were aware that the Milwaukee bit holder can also retain the 13 mm Japanese bit

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I hadn’t tried it, but thanks for the info 👍

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

I tried with jis double sided ones it didn't hold well especially the slotted sides. Vessel tone and annex.

[@batmanacw]

The Wera will hold 13mm bits for sure.

[@WoodRoTeam]

Slim is better especially when it comes to doorknobs

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Agree. That’s the case for me a lot of times anyways

[@tedmcdonald3377]

😎⚒️😎⚒️😎

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

There’s the man who first 99.3% of the time 👍👍

[@tedmcdonald3377]

@@MORGANSMaintenance 🏆😂🏆😂🏆

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

Maybe space ray guns for the tool? That would leave a "impact!" 😆

[@MichaelWieler-x3n]

My wiha bit holders quit holding bits after 2 weeks in my impact 👎

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Appreciate the feedback… I’m in the early stage of testing those

[@jbflyinglow]

Milwaukee was two cents cheaper on your list you just showed

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

It may have been. I never look at cents… they get me for an extra dollar all the time 😂

[@michaela3330]

The dewalt one broke 3 times on me, same as yours, stopped buying them

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

👍👍.. I’ve got a lot of life out of mine before it happens, but would be nice to find a similar option that fixes that issue

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

Doing well around 100 comments in less than a day someone's getting popular. There are channels with 100s of thousands of subs that don't get that many comments. Seems to happen every video within reason. Goes to authenticity of the content.

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

Yeah, I don’t get many subscribers with every video for whatever reason. 80% of my views are from non-subscribers.. I’m not sure if it’s true what they say and it’s because I don’t ask 🤷‍♂️.. but I’d rather have more comments. I like the discussions, suggestions, and feedback more than the subscriber count. The only reason more subscriptions would be more helpful for me, is possibly more opportunities to get tools from the companies we all use. I buy a lot anyways channel or not, but I can’t buy them all 😂

[@MattHmm-rq6dn]

The other issue with say channels that get thousands of comments in the first hours any single comment is lost in a crowd. It's almost not worth it at that point since no one can respond to that many comments. It's a balance of useful curated comments/info that's managble. I don't think you'll get there anytime soon and since people gotta work youtube isn't there entire life let's just call it a win. It's all appreciated and we will keep you motivated. Thoes new channels tooling with Newman, three-phase, and Matt Talley can always use a boost to stay motivated.

[@NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM]

Great video! What is that accessory in your Milwaukee M12 impact driver? Is that a bit holder?

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

It’s the Spider Drill Pin Spider "PRO" Tool Holster with Drill Pins - How it Differs from the Original #tools #maintenance kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5_bp3x7YqhsmdU

[@mafei1517]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4XHdGmQqK2Hf6csi=3lILwmZTYnLfafdR That one is my favourite since years now. Slim fit to get in tight spaces, easy to remove bit and strong grip when it’s in. Similar to the wiha and dewalt but it’s magnetic which is soo helpful

[@MORGANSMaintenance]

I’ve added it in my List. Appreciate it 👍