Ben & Emil on: Taylor Swift (controversial + brave)

[@Yoyomamafat]

The contrast of Emil getting into it with the blunt guy during an episode about Taylor swift is gold

[@himiko6893]

the hard cut from emil peeing sound? to “-i’ll-i’ll just say this: ‘blank space’ is a great song. i really like that song.” made me giggle

[@rachelc3980]

Wait okay we also need more of seeing Ben & Emil standing around like they’re the two most interesting guys at a house party

[@101Skb]

They would be the best people at the party to be stuck in a conversation with

[@oplasmidx8288]

Thi was Def a power move by them I need it moe

[@diapermoneyy]

yes 100%

[@cdw2468]

RE: interruption, it’s literally always the most loud and obnoxious people who are so adamant that they’re in the right

[@carcistan]

100% - its so easy to be like “sure, mind letting me know when you’re done?” if you really want to enjoy your music at that volume. But that takes empathy/not having an immensely fragile ego

[@harmonyjasmine3175]

True - like i can understand if you aren’t expecting to have someone come out and say something it can kinda surprise you - but like old mate came out with the defence immediately

[@shoopaloop]

I love that Emil’s kitchen is really lived in unlike other celebrities

[@kpcm9425]

LMAOOOOOOOOO

[@tadhgshortall8001]

He doesn’t know or care that you exist

[@shilosims8502]

That slow walk backwards ending on a pure human moment of two friends discussing a pop star was beautiful

[@makr.]

cinematic masterpiece

[@Shotsshotsshotz]

Cinema.

[@maczafarana8989]

Dylan is a cinematic mastermind

[@emmanememmanem]

To hear with my own ears emil argue with a stranger is something I’ve been waiting for for so long

[@rachelc3980]

NEED MORE EMIL CONFRONTING PEOPLE

[@ahem8013]

ben thank you for talking about when your tummies fart during sex. honorable mention for when you drink a lot of water beforehand and you can hear it sloshing

[@OllieBollie24]

YES

[@ecyceseeky9038]

Yeah I think Emil can’t relate cuz he’s got a six pack or smth

[@harrisonwheat7976]

The guy playing the music loud is such a perfect encapsulation of how people act now. He is clearly in the wrong but acts like the person calmly asking him to stop annoying everyone around him is in the wrong. So self centered. Infuriating!

[@ahoytherekaty]

The response genuinely made me so angry!

[@ianamcrittenden5713]

I was really hoping we were going to get full New Jersey Italian Emil when he confronted that guy.

[@apoorvasharma2610]

This, right here, is the future of content. Podcast + Vlog + Worldstar

[@balls4924]

the fight comp halfway through tied it together

[@calebxw4487]

Emil is so fucking correct

[@gracefoster7587]

Swifties have so much power that they sent a man to go outside of Emil’s apartment and play loud music to stop Ben and Emil from saying things that could be perceived as slightly negative about Taylor

[@kimberly.aerial]

thank you Emil for being so brave yet so controversial 🫡

[@Rodviet]

P.S. the backgrounds on these videos are wild, please never stop. This series is gold btw, I really enjoy your opinions! Please make a video on driving, using chopsticks for other than eating asian food, buying shoes... omg Emil standing up to the dude was so hot, i forgot my train of thought.😂

[@drewbrew444]

Emil is right. I think it's weird that someone can be so popular, so rich, Time "person of the year," and yet elicit only a neutral response from most people. She's the best at being a blank slate for the listener/viewer to project onto. Whatever opinion you have, Taylor has. What ever product you like, Taylor likes. She's perfectly manufactured to be inoffensive. And ultimately it's frustrating to some, myself included, that something that takes up so much cultural space can be so boring.

[@jbone877]

That's how most major cultural stuff is. Whatever fits, however marginally, for the most people, while able to remain relevant, becomes huge

[@mfotino]

i agree although i do also think her team is partially to blame. in her 2020 documentary miss americana theres a scene where shes arguing with her team and father (who was a shareholder in her record label at the time) where shes essentially begging them to let her come out as a democrat lol. its riduclous but she is definitely treated as a product that needs to remain marketable to all.

[@katielegate]

I do think it's easier to call her boring if you haven't experienced girl hood or being a woman in general. She also has stood up on political issues before and gotten thousands of her fans to register to vote. But as a fan I agree that ultimately the reason she is so popular is because she's remained inoffensive and neutral in a lot of aspects. She makes up for it through her lyricism in my opinion.

[@katielegate]

@@mfotino THIS! It has a lot to do with her team.

[@nateb.1276]

It’s frustrating that she is so influential in the age of the internet, where so many creators make their money by filling some obscure niche within a niche within a niche.

[@aotearoa2772]

This was a great episode, I loved the confrontation with the guy and the kitchen shot at the end. You guys gotta do more stuff out and about

[@annwilson9350]

agreed I liked stuff besides podcast type of stuff haha

[@Faded______]

I actually thought Emil confronting the guy playing music loud was a bit. Who gets that heated from someone asking them to turn down the music lmfao

[@nateb.1276]

More common than you think. People are just not used to being confronted, so they get needlessly defensive/shitty when people ask them to do something as simple as turning music down.

[@ahoytherekaty]

The guy wanted to do whatever he wanted and felt embarrassed for getting called out so he doubled down.

[@localyocal498]

Wish Ben a successful career as Taylor Swift’s running mate, with Emil and ‘guy with the too loud speaker’ running in opposition.

[@zakaryrichmond396]

I dont like your attitude

[@nathalielarsson2838]

Emil with the controversial opinions that shouldn’t be controversial! Emil handling confrontation with GRACE like a GREEK GOD! Love you guys and great parasocial conversation between the three of us as usual

[@princessefd]

Lol leaving the confrontation in the video is so Ben + Emil

[@cacapupu1234]

I love the shot When they’re just standing in the kitchen. Please do more shots like that. It felt so casual and I felt like the third person in the conversation

[@willstemler1805]

podcast vlog style is truly something that has potential to change the game

[@jacksonharris146]

the end of this video was an incredible artistic choice

[@jaybee6330]

That Ari Aster direction style to end it was neat. The human sacrifice was a little much, but a cool twist.

[@Rodviet]

Describing her as a romance novel equivalent is so spot on! I feel like that's an apt comparison, and not in a bad way, they were very popular for a reason after all :)

[@crustbukkit]

Ben. Emil. I just want to start this by saying hello to everyone who likes paypigs pod. I just lathered myself in a gallon of petroleum jelly and absolutely loved slipping and sliding around to the sounds and pleasant visuals you provided. Keep up the fabulous work gentlemen.

[@Crokuz]

Kind of an avant-garde vibe to this one

[@calebxw4487]

The end is so cinematic

[@cdw2468]

she’s like fine, perfectly unremarkable. that’s not a dig, she’s clearly cultivated this image intentionally and she’s very good at it, i just don’t know how she elicits so much passion from a very specific type of person

[@emmabarr7783]

i hate that most pop culture/popular music is bland and universally appealing but i think she is an exception, as someone who played/studied classical music growing up and loves bob dylan, leonard cohen, death grips, etc she writes engaging pop songs (objectively less formulaic than bob dylan) and is a great storyteller/lyricist, people connect their personal experiences to hers through her songs

[@iloveedsheeran4]

I love that Emil's kitchen looks lived in unlike most celebbrities

[@TheWayneTrayne]

they have no idea that they just uploaded one of the most artistic and thought-provoking pieces of content in recent history.

[@kylacrush6810]

It’s pretty epic Taylor has been able to maintain her body building career while on a world tour. I love that song on the Red album called “Pumping Iron All Day Err Day To Show You What You Lost”

[@levi.h]

Let’s continue this format of Ben and Emil discussing things standing in the corner of their kitchen. Best format

[@chimichanga3405]

i like the way emil was leaning against the fridge in the end

[@nothintoseehere3761]

Dylan has been bringing the heat! Love the slow walk back hahah

[@harmonyjasmine3175]

I so deeply love this community

[@micmaxian]

Camera quality is top notch!

[@Clarissa02766]

Genuinely love the cinematography in this one

[@ethanlink3639]

Don’t typically comment on these things, but just have to say this video is so great. Love hearing your guys open and honest conversations, the interruption was hilarious, and then the ending with you boys chatting was just beautiful to see

[@benauxo]

i LOVED the part where you went in the kitchen 🤣

[@lexibrown5193]

emil is so valid for this. thank you from all of us non taylor swift fans living in this confusing world

[@Socko00taco00]

We need more of whatever kind of youtube content this is. First half was a normal commentary video, second half was a world star audio clip, and then it ended with a cinematic walk away shot of two male pornstars about to go ham. Beautiful.

[@Luke.Molloy]

Petition for vlog style content like the second half of the video

[@truebaldwin6142]

Next time I wanna see Ben and Emil on when it's ok to pick a fight with neighbors that are too loud

[@Miles_Morrison]

Love this format. The standing and talking and moving was a enjoyable change of pace

[@Nicohamcg]

I like the location change tbh Has a documentary vibe to it

[@emmaschultz2143]

The convo says "Taylor is blasé" but the green screen says "we think Taylor is a skinwalker on SARMs"

[@Dillonjames32]

Had to include my take somehow!

[@sessionswithceej]

so goddamn sick of hearing about this woman EVERYWHERE I go. The pics on the green screen and emil's amazing take kept me around

[@joyuosSauce]

I love the handheld shots of them in the kitchen, these videos should be like out in nature with them on a park bench or talking or walking, the handheld shots elevate the show to another level. Just makes it feel more genuine and natural

[@matthew.m.stevick]

This series remains consistently outstanding and a glove fit format for Ben and Emil. (I still love the hour long informative commentary standard format the same, it’s just this is a wonderful addition)

[@3Leches]

Loved how weirdly cinematic it ended

[@trudyshellenbarger4934]

Does anyone remember when we all agreed that taylor swift was just like an annoying pop star and not the queen of the world??? Literally what did she do to flip the switch like that??? I feel like I’m going crazy. I can literally name like 5 of her songs and they’re all the most algorithm-based formulaic pop songs you can imagine. I don’t trust anyone anymore fr cause how did everyone know to just suddenly change their mind on her

[@infraredflower]

I think cuz we all had pandemic brain and then she released 2 folksy albums in 2020 that people latched onto for dear life

[@TM-tr7re]

i think what happened was everyone turned on her in 2016 over the kanye thing and then in 2020 the full phone call came out and people realized they called her a liar for no reason and felt bad lol

[@ahoytherekaty]

I’ve been listening since she first debuted and I’ve had this question for years. How she went from enjoyable, radio friendly pop star to literal queen of the universe exempt from all criticism is truly mind boggling.

[@Hahnsworth]

The second half of this is peak.

[@corsehaire6228]

THE SINGLE BEST PAYPIGS CONTENT I'VE EVER WATCHED!!!

[@becca1868]

the pan out at the end is EVERYTHING

[@3daxx]

the conversation at the end was magical some movie type shit

[@katielegate]

Taylor Swift is my Momma and Bruce Springsteen is my Papa. That is all.

[@DarkMuj]

Loved this episode. Emil maybe next time send Ben out to confront people because he's got that whole adorable apologetic vibe whereas you come across as more of a Spartan Warrior who can't help but be intimidating even when you're just being businesslike. It's the hair dude. Fierce flow.

[@alaijahsims5083]

as a black women, taylor swift is extremely bland. i’m sure a lot of people have heard about the idea of taylor swift weaponizing feminism to tell people they can’t be mean to her instead of using it for it’s actual purpose of uplifting all women in all aspects. I think that is very true and adds to why her audience is so big because she is only a activist to white women. when it comes to activism for any other group, she is extremely hesitant or non existent because it doesn’t directly benefit her. i don’t really care for her but i a lot of my problem is with her fans

[@cdw2468]

i feel the same way, she’s almost this perfect encapsulation of white culture (or lack thereof). the fact that she’s able to take up so much space despite being very average is so perfectly fitting

[@carcistan]

i hadn’t thought about that, but it makes sense once pointed out.

[@Shotsshotsshotz]

And the way she historically has aligned herself(read: exploited) black artists for her own public benefit has always made me deeply uncomfortable. It’s the PR equivalent of saying I Can’t Be Racist I Work With Black People.

[@smallfrymxmx]

She’s praised so highly for mediocrity.

[@dounutkiller]

emil makes me feel so validated

[@d1gitalD00M]

I really liked this whole video. The outro was very nice

[@samwatson2735]

A cinematic masterpiece.

[@juleskathleen8131]

The boys are being ballsy by posting this one 😗

[@joshjohnson1107]

Ben me and my wife have stomach farts all the time during fun time. I see you king.

[@maudelorr2656]

really like the pan out at the end, cinematic choice 🥶

[@yamarm]

this is the cutest thing i've ever seen. emillionaire fr

[@zoerussell2602]

This was probably the best video I’ve watched This was fucking beautiful

[@tifftiffstone]

IM LOVE WITH THE ENDING SHOT

[@hydr.o]

The matching outfits, the array of disturbing pictures in the background, engagement with the locals and a peek into Emil’s attitude with civil disturbances followed by a walking shot through the set all while vaguely on topic of Taylor swift… this is postmodern art

[@scrobaby]

the pan-out is so good

[@luke.hillis7634]

That ending shot was beautiful

[@Squidwin]

The last shot reminded me of Vincent and Jules talking about foot massages

[@paxtonmarner7212]

How did the private jet fuel emissions not come up once

[@levgryson7762]

How human we all are :) Amazing episode guys

[@corrinasheehy8590]

I need more of the boys taking the convo elsewhere and forgetting they’re recording

[@paigeedwards6457]

they idolize her and it is so strange

[@gregbarbosa0]

Final kitchen scene was dope. Cool to see more of the set

[@DimondQai]

Obsessed with the addition of brave to the title

[@TMera-ji6gz]

7:42 performance art omg

[@Jermsjerm.]

A Berkeys water filter??? I thought my parents were the only ones that have such a thing! They’ll be so happy to see this.

[@AIRJABMA]

Respectfully, there is a certain privilege behind Taylor swift regardless. And I think because there’s a privilege, it creates some sort of admiration and desire to have the same type of power and privilege.

[@rachelc3980]

The opener is GOLD

[@feetwoodmac2648]

Emil's gonna have to get full reconstructive facial surgery and a legal name change after this.

[@isabellaanne8546]

the bodybuilding pics have me crying

[@vssapaige]

I would've never guessed Emil is 22!

[@DimondQai]

I think she actually only resonates because she doesn't take a stand one way or another and leaves her lyrics as generic as she can so that people can project themselves onto it. Not a bad business move but person of the year? Wth

[@matthewchurchill4225]

I was convinced the music guy was gonna be a lead up to a bit with William Prison

[@ImReetlad]

I hold the opinion's of both Ben & Emil inside me and it's tearing me apart

[@aya_____7921]

Loving the change of scenery

[@ghostcoyoteproductions]

Neutral to positive is an accurate description.

[@alaijahsims5083]

also to ben’s point of her running for president because she cares. i don’t agree with that in the slightest. she is not at all a person who cares about anything that doesn’t directly benefit her. she will never take a stance on anything that might divide her audience. The biggest ‘stance’ she’s taken was the whole voting thing which inherently isnt a bad thing. telling people to vote isn’t a good or bad thing and she didn’t take a stance politically. there are many things she would have to decide on in order to run that all of her fans won’t agree with. i don’t think it would be beneficial to her in a way she would care about and she definitely doesn’t care about anyone besides herself

[@sabrinar222]

If she took a stance, she would lose a big portion of her audience. If she condemned racists, trump supporters, etc., she wouldn’t be a billionaire. She’s a horrible person. With that much of a following and a “die for her” audience, she could potentially help create change.

[@gracefoster7587]

She urged people to not vote for Marsha Blackburn and made some comments supporting gay rights, but overall she’s as progressive as a business could be without losing a lot of customers. With her main objective being so middle-of-the-road that anyone could like her, I don’t understand why Ben thinks she would run for president. He really took that scene where she cried at her dad to allow her to come out as a democrat to heart

[@kimberly.aerial]

anyone else feel uneasy with Emil standing on the left and Ben on the right at the end?

[@rachelc3980]

omg the way I’ve never noticed Ben is always on the left and Emil on the right

[@olivianoelani4363]

everything about this was so satisfying and emil’s apartment is so cute

[@HiPocket303]

lol where the fuck does Emil live that there is someone rolling a fucking blunt in front of their door blasting music 😂 Emil is in it

[@EthanDurant]

That socal for you

[@Ram-zc4fi]

going to find the guy who was rolling a joint and playing his music to loud and write a stern, handwritten note and put it on his car windshield!

[@eenfx]

This is the best video yall have ever posted

[@benandemilshow]

thank you very much

[@goodnotgr8]

watching anxiously, praying a laser sight doesn’t appear between your eyes

[@PKBandito]

Thank you for your service Ben (Getting high and changing the video thumbnail)

[@annie0225]

Love these videos