Ben Hogan's GAMECHANGER MAGIC ELBOW

[@johnschwartz1536]

What an excellent video Andy on the "magic elbow!" I have been in possession of Ben Hogan's "Five Lessons: The Modern Fundamentals of Golf" since its publication in 1957. On page 51, he quotes "at address, the left elbow points to the left hipbone and the right elbow points to the right hipbone. The right elbow can then fold in correctly on the backswing." This is something that is now natural to me and I immediately know when my elbow leaves my side because the consequences aren't pretty! Great Job Andy explaining "Hogan's Magic Move!" I feel every golfer should have a copy of Hogan's book in their library! It's very concise, to the point, and with pictures! :-)

[@kennypridemore5466]

This guy is one of the rare teachers that actually understands and teach the greatest single simple lesson you'll ever need ..... once the right elbow touches your body YOU KEEP IT THERE AND THEN HIT THE BALL WITH YOUR TURN !!! AND NOTHING MORE.

[@terrydowning3516]

Great video Andy kept it clear, simple and easy to understand

[@yaozhang6270]

This video was the missing link for me. THANK YOU!

[@andycartergolf]

My pleasure

[@BHJ7115]

Just found your channel. Finally, a step by step guide without the unnecessary embellishments. Love your concept of teaching, and thank you so much for your contributions so everyone can benefit from this great game of golf. And subscribed!

[@andycartergolf]

Thank you for the kind words, and thank you for subscribing 🙌🏽

[@nightwolf2666]

The right elbow is everything. When I first learned the "Move", I shanked a bunch to the right, but once I relaxed my wrists, I was hitting draws with as low as a 9 iron. Best feeling ever.

[@paulgreen8228]

Hi Andy, a great video, easy to understand and logical. I’d love to see an average golfer demonstrate this, see the improvement and just how it is taken up. I am 61 and chasing a more solid strike, understanding distance will come with a solid strike

[@shoooooooes]

Great video with a great tip that I keep working on and forgetting about! Practice day tomorrow .. I'll be working on this .. half swings, getting fuller. Thanks, Andy!!

[@ericfletcher2887]

GREAT SWING LESSON. I watch a ton of vidoes on KZbin describing Hogan's swing and this was a very simple explanation of one of the most important aspects to solid ball striking. Well done Sir.

[@andycartergolf]

Why thank you Eric

[@rhysjones3846]

Love how simple you make things seem!

[@andycartergolf]

Thanks Rhys

[@jamieburstow6236]

Tried this rehearsal in the mirror as soon as I seen this video and noticed my new position at the top of the back swing and grew more intrigued, tried this move on the course and my ball striking was game changing, great video Andy!

[@timhumphrey3185]

Further to your video and the comment from johnschwartz - referring once more to Ben's book, 'The modern fundamentals of golf-page 90', printed in capitals as it is in the book, 'THE HIPS INITIATE THE DOWNSWING' They are the pivotal element of the chain action. Starting them first and moving them correctly - this one action practically makes the downswing.' Under no circumstances should you move the hands and wrists as you start the downswing! Instead, pull the left hip back; feel the weight transferring into the left heal and the left leg straightening, or posting as you Americans call it, - and voila! the arms and hands have now moved - without any conscious effort from you - to a position where the right elbow is just in front of the right hip - the perfect position to hit the ball as hard as you like with the entire right side by rotating your right forearm and not releasing your wrists. WHEN YOU CAN DO THIS, YOU CAN START PLAYING GOLF!

[@Automation_Control_Tuning]

I went on trackman for a couple hours this evening, that made such a difference to my strike! Thanks a lot for this! Still a work in progress, but it always will be…

[@andycartergolf]

Awesome. Glad its helped Guy

[@liamdll3044]

Great tips Andy. You make it look so easy!

[@CoyMillard-sj8gd]

Great instructional, Hogan’s hip turn to start down swing has been a game changer for me.

[@simonwallis84]

Used to do this years ago,after coming back to golf a couple of years back it was difficult to get the feeling of lag back. But once it does come back,golf is a lot more fun

[@GolfingMalky]

Any time Ive seen a film of Hogan swinging a club he always made it look natural and effortless. Great vlog Andy - cheers

[@andycartergolf]

It looks too easy doesnt it!

[@ThatBonzaLife]

Great vid Andy! Love what your doing recently and seeing the results in my game ❤

[@andycartergolf]

Awesome, happy to help

[@matthewbarkway8707]

Fact is it works..!!! Been doing it for years. Thanks Andy.

[@Demag24]

Can wait to try this when I come home from work…just watch my on recoding and couldn’t figure out why my swing going to much out to in but the way you explain with the elbows and wring in the trail arm makes since 😀

[@andycartergolf]

Hope it helps the practice bud

[@Kazyman]

From a veteran swing coach, I applaud your efforts to bring light to this ultra important swing factor. Any disconnect from the inside, upper arm from the core, results in less than desirable outcomes to say the least. The only other thing I highly recommend is the Square To Square method of Mike Austin fame. As a result, all my students eventually wind up being better 'Swing Repeaters' than this old bag. ( me ) Keep up the great instructionals, friend.

[@andycartergolf]

Thank you Steve

[@burtneal1364]

Hit some on the sim tonight with this thought and it took my over the top issue away and eliminated my toe strikes. Now to burn that feel in! Thanks for the clear explanation.

[@andycartergolf]

My pleasure, glad its helped

[@michaelpotter9456]

Love it. Works like a dream, played well for a few rounds then it went again with my irons. Re watched this and it’s back again. Now saved and will watch each time I get lazy again. Andy is it same technique for driver? Apart from hitting up and not down. Cheers.

[@jamieburstow6236]

Great video, can’t wait to try it out

[@nigelloughlin4539]

Hi Andy, started to hit the ball like a newbie and couldn’t understand why? Went to a different coach and he pointed out what you are saying. 30 seconds later I was getting pure strikes. Your lesson explains it really well and in more detail. This is a CLASS video if you want to pure the golf ball, no matter what HC you are! You have one one subscriber from me 🏹💥🐥

[@andycartergolf]

Thank you Nigel. The comment is much appreciated

[@fergusfitzgerald977]

I finally got this into my swing by looking at the greats - yes you are absolutely correct - mind you I am a high handicapper with much work to do still ! Good one !

[@derekcopeland477]

Thanks for this tip, which seems to have improved my ball striking and distance. In particular hitting fewer fat shots. 👍

[@darrellrodgers6227]

Very good video. Your good at explaining the process.

[@timbrace]

Great tip Andy, Thanks

[@i_m_jack_bauer]

Excellent video, Andy.

[@ryanschultz4119]

Great stuff Cart-Dawg! I went & hit a bucket on my lunch break. And used this drill, to help me get the club in a better position at the top of my backswing.

[@andycartergolf]

Love it Ryan but I still hate your profile pic/logo

[@ryanschultz4119]

@andycartergolf Hahaha!!🤣👌 That must make you a supporter of 1 of Manchester City's rivals..?😏 I'm guessing either United, or Liverpool..?🤷‍♂️

[@Criscross292]

I’ve never seen that downswing drill with the shaft pointing to the target. It really forces you to feel the correct position. Thank You!

[@andycartergolf]

You’re welcome 😇

[@howardkennerley4679]

Top vid Andy , looks colder than Dubai ....

[@andycartergolf]

Thanks Howard! Wayyyyyy colder than Dubai lol

[@dancook89]

Quality tip this is Andy! Looks like I’m off to the range after work ⛳️💪🏻

[@andycartergolf]

Awesome bud. Enjoy it

[@d0m0]

Interesting lesson, thanks

[@ballforegolf]

Great stuff. I will check it out this weekend and see where I stand with it.

[@donniecorrigan8519]

Great video Andy!

[@chrisgolfer7528]

Good one Andy, playing today so will try to remember this drill.

[@golf007sd2]

Fantastic drill!

[@garrymajor7528]

The coin under the arm is what Mac Ogrady advisers and he loved Ben hogan and Sam sneed

[@philgoss165]

Cracking video again Andy..my mate swears by the book hogans “5 lessons”..I got a bit erratic as not playing much during winter(6hcp but scrambled there lol) so had a lesson based on a quick vid rosey posted to get my feel back..it’s worked a treat and it’s very much like what your doing here..it’s called “ feel vs real swing drill”…have a look👍… Another good video Uve done and u haven’t over complicated it 👌👌

[@andycartergolf]

Thanks Phil, Glad it's helped

[@zman4116]

Easily the best explanation of this move. Thanks

[@rickyfandango6054]

You showed one short little clip of Ben Hogan at the beginning. I wish you would have shown a bit more of that swing after you said your piece.

[@MonsterERB]

Got a copy of Hogan's "Lessons" book back in 1992 shortly after I picked up the game. It was a HUGE help in getting me on track to getting a repeatable swing. And sure enough, whenever I really REALLY mishit a shot it's almost always because I didn't tuck my right (trail) elbow into my side as I started my downswing. If I let that elbow fly... welcome to Topsville, Sliceland, and Fatsburg. Probably because halfway down I KNOW what I did but the last-minute efforts to get back on plane are too late.

[@andycartergolf]

Those are 3 places none of us want to visit Eric 😂 Hope the video helped jog some old memories and maybe learn a new drill along the way too

[@Dreyno]

I only occasionally visit Topsville but I have an annual pass to Fatsburg and Sliceland.

[@shannonsanders5250]

Pete Cowan tips work great with hogans elbow. I am glad you didn’t mention the rubber band feeling hogan always talked about with his hips. I feel that takes away from the elbow move. I focused on that rubber band feeling and it was bad. Your wedge under the trail foot drill was money for me, 3/4 swings with towel and that wedge under the heel are perfect for me warming up. That course you where at on magic elbow looked cool.

[@andycartergolf]

Glad its all helping Shannon 🙌🏽

[@robbosch3449]

Excellent video. My trail arm has become an obsession for me. You watch a swing like Xander Schauffle's for instance, and he keeps his trail arm fully extended during his backswing for quite a long time before bending it. I try to mimic this because I think his swing is a thing of beauty, but keeping the right arm extended is not natural for me. Your swing, like Hogan's, encourages the right arm to bend earlier...as long as you keep that elbow tucked in pretty close the whole time. That is much easier for me to do. I hadn't though much about keeping it tucked in and bent during the downswing, though, until watching your video. I am anxious to try this out. Thanks for the video :)

[@andycartergolf]

Yeh Xander’s swing is amazing but not worth copying! Theres easy ways to move the club. Focusing on the trail arm for swing path and control is much easier

[@robbosch3449]

@@andycartergolf thank you. I'm going to work hard on keeping the elbow tucked in during the downswing. Even with practice swings it feels more natural :)

[@EvanDahill]

Wow. Thank you.

[@peariejones6253]

Hogans 5 Lessons! Totally works!

[@lenardtan7169]

Great teaching tips.. Can this be apply to the driver too.

[@andycartergolf]

Yes absolutely

[@tfootball8704]

Hi Andy, great information, I have recently been doing a drill from Ben Hogan.

[@andycartergolf]

Which drill?

[@tfootball8704]

@@andycartergolf This one, here is the link - kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpq1h4uHZ9lria8&ab_channel=RandoyoDigdoyo

[@dannyrand1733]

This guy (Andy Carter) is 100% correct. Not many people talk about what the "right elbow" does during the golf swing. It took me, literally, several years to understand that. And now I'm hitting the golf ball much better, and straighter. I don't care what my swing looks like going back. It only matters where your elbow is at impact.

[@andycartergolf]

Thanks Danny

[@baz4610]

Great video Andy…..there’s a lot of misinformation when it comes to golf swings on KZbin but this is a golden nugget. It would be interesting to know what Pete Cowans thoughts are on Ben Hogans ‘Five Lessons’ book🤔

[@andycartergolf]

Thanks Baz, it would be interesting to chat to him about this yes.

[@chrisoconnor2168]

Would this work with Driver and fairway wood?

[@alanrobertson9336]

Cracking video Andy ......... #Ucanstrikeit #noscript #hearditherefirst

[@andycartergolf]

U Can Strike it series coming soon lol

[@CoyMillard-sj8gd]

I miss the course vlogs tho, would you consider a vlog with Lester Barnes? Would love to see y’all battle & banter each other! Also, how is the baby?

[@shaungunter4333]

Great video

[@andycartergolf]

Thanks Shaun

[@patekMR]

would you do this for driver/woods as well?

[@andycartergolf]

Absolutely

[@rhaltunen]

Are you casting your wrists at all? I ask because I sprained the outside of my leading wrist two weeks ago while golfing. I tend to snap the wrists on impact. I’m hoping I can change my swing to where I can get rid of the casting.

[@eamontusa6558]

My swing thought has always been ball position with the club I’m using, 4/10 tightness of hand grip, take away with club staying in front of my body trying to keep club face closed at top of the swing, keeping my spine angle the same through impact, keep my weight inside back foot on back swing, weight transition to front foot just before down swing, now I have to worry about the U position with my trail elbow, all for me to chunk it 20 metres yeah… thanks for the extra thought Andy

[@eamontusa6558]

This is actually a awesome video! Great tips! I’ve never noticed which way my trail elbow is pointing at my swing setup. Il definitely be checking that out and try to adjust! Now I got another excuse to use on the course haha the good old “I’m going through a swing change” lol

[@andycartergolf]

Just stick with this 1 thought buddy haha

[@markhuru]

I’ve been studying videos of every type, and every video is contradictory to the last. Here is something I haven’t found. How every element of the golf swing is timing, for example when does the trial elbow push to be straight? Sure hold it as you turn but if you hold it too long you lose speed. Just like the hinge of the wrist, or hips, shoulders, knee,bend, there are so many elements, what about breathing? A technique I find helpful is Trying all the little tweaks, hit a ball or two, then try another and so on, Then totally loose with minimal effort swing relaxed, often this produces great results.

[@andycartergolf]

This is the art of overthinking it in my opinion. Get good fundaments, get the club into a decent position then hit the ball. The trail arm will extend post impact at a time when you have ZERO control due to speed

[@djelalhassan7631]

Great

[@jbr4771]

Hiya ! New to this game so what does ‘releasing the club’ mean? Is it when the club head is traveling at maximum speed? Thanks

[@andycartergolf]

Its when you bring the club back to neutral/square/straight to target just before contact. Its a high speed point of the swing hence why its a big power source but also it’s key to the swing for shot direction

[@Shevanigans]

This (or similar) is in Harvey Penicks Little Red Book also. It's under the chapter magic move. If you've not read that book I'm sure you would find it interesting. I also love Mr Hogans book and I also love Pete’s pyramid of learning. I'm must get a life... I read too much

[@andycartergolf]

Student of the game!! I love it!

[@paulbishop3514]

Always struggle with the chicken wing on the way back. Like the way you simplify the move 😊

[@andycartergolf]

Yeah this is a brilliant feel for that issue Paul

[@keithod]

nice

[@jamiesloan7259]

This is one of the absolute essential key moves in golf. Get that right forearm, and right wrist BACK. The right elbow should point down towards the ground, from setup, to the top of the backswing, and then LEAD the downswing. Watch professionals in ANY sport. A baseball pitcher. A baseball hitter. A tennis forehand. A quarterback. Hell. Even a rock skipper. lol Too many people get the right arm wrong, and then try to push the club to the ball. This is very weak, and inconsistent. Imagine you’re trying to sink a long axe into the side of a tree, near the ground. Or, drive a nail into the wall, near the floor, with a long hammer. That’s the golf swing.

[@riley9577]

Is the left arm supposed to stay straight to the top? Elbows are probably going everywhere cause I'm keeping left arm fully straight n it's pushing my trail elbow n trail arm off .. 36 hcp

[@andycartergolf]

It can stay straight if you have the flexibility to keep it straight

[@michaelmontana0804]

Andy it is simple connection and keeping the left elbow pointing down throughout the swing. Nothing more

[@andycartergolf]

Super simple bud 😉

[@leonberkowitz8769]

Keeping your trail arm close and tight might restrict you. I think one needs a bit of a gap between your elbow and your torso. Your thoughts Andy ?

[@andycartergolf]

It wont actually stay attached. Its a feel.

[@wallabybob3020]

Excellent drill! I watched Tiger put a glove under his upper arm to keep it close. If it’s good enough for him……

[@andycartergolf]

Yep perfect. Glove, towel, coin is a great way to build feel

[@svenhallauer3229]

I've tried this before and it works well as long as one can rotate the upper spine properly - but for people with limited upper body mobility this doesn't seem to work so well.

[@MrAdamE1982]

This seems to run counter to your earlier vid on grip and pointing the forearm down target. Am I missing something?

[@andycartergolf]

Not necessarily, the last video is about identifying your grip position IF you hook/ pull the ball as mentioned in the video. This video is about trail arm positioning to help build the backswing and control path in to the downswing. They are very different subjects and depend on what you need as a player… thats if you know what you need. The worst thing you can do is try every tip because they may not be related to you

[@MrAdamE1982]

@@andycartergolf Thanks for replying! I think I understand you - I was trying to understand why I had started hooking it, and the last vid was spot on and gave me more freedom in the swing. It's getting the right grip to allow you the freedom to move properly, but if you're casting the club, you need to bring it back. I do attempt to limit the tips I try to you and Danny Maude. Danny for feel and you for mechanics :)

[@MrAdamE1982]

@@andycartergolf Hi Andy, Just thought I'd share that I've been practicing this one and it has been the single most powerful change I've made. I'm now hitting the ball really straight with consistent distances. The pro at my local range commented on how pure my swing is looking. Thank you for a really informative video!

[@discr1709]

Same with driver?

[@andycartergolf]

Absolutely 100% buddy

[@discr1709]

@@andycartergolf I’ve recently been thinking about this in the swing, and the drill you shared makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

[@terrywells2095]

Great video , but you need to look up Moe Norman.

[@andycartergolf]

I know all about Moe Norman

[@8dragonsx]

You can combine this with your Gem Golf aid. Use the heaviest weight. Take your address with both hands on the club. Cock your wrists up until the club is parallel to the ground facing away from you. Then rotate away from the target until the club is parallel to the target line and pointed away from the target. Now do a 90 degree curl with you right arm such that your right forearm is parallel to the ground. If your grip is light and if you let the Gem do it’s thing you’ll find the perfect hand position and you can rehearse the rest of the backswing and transition while letting the Gem be your guide. Or … maybe I am full of 💩

[@andycartergolf]

No absolutely makes a lot of sense. This is why I do love the GEM

[@DASH1ful]

hogan didn't actually do that. his arms increased separation in the start of the backswing. this enabled him to take the club back on the inside. hogan then flexed his right arm back into a very deep position, at the top of the backswing. in the waggle the digiti minimi and the flexor retinaculum, in the left hand, work as antagonistic opposites; and, this directs force into the right elbow, causing the arms to increase separation, in the start of the backswing. the arms then reduce separation towards the top of the backswing; and, continue to reduce separation in the start of the downswing. it's an enantiodromia sort of thing

[@andycartergolf]

😉

[@carrotmaster3054]

small swing and no weight transfer in that motion

[@ingeniousbraveheart]

Hi Andy brilliant at- last at- Last -AT LAST .some thing even I understand . my playing pals say my legs and arms move like an octopus all over the bloody place even my bowels move .and this is why I have had no control over my balls the last 80 years .Andy Son where were you when I needed you so I will keep you posted and I will be breaking 90 before I am 90

[@johnedwards1971]

Thanks Andy, for these tips.? They are pure gold. I’ll try it out this weekend, hopefully I’ll be more consistent 🏌️‍♂️

[@andycartergolf]

Thanks John, hope it helps this weekend

[@kennypridemore5466]

It's simple folks , once your right elbow touches your side you keep it there and hit the ball with your body turn with EVERY CLUB ! .... and after impact it doesn't matter what you do with your body or arms or hands , BECAUSE THE BALL IS ALREADY GONE !!! ..... JUST GET THE CLUBHEAD SQUARE TO THE BALL AT IMPACT, and you do that by hitting the ball with a turn and not with the arms or hands once that right elbow touches your right side .... but these worthless teachers don't teach you this , they just muddy the waters and hope you never figure it out , so that your always coming back to have them fix your swing ..... its a business folks, and without repeat customers their out of a job !!!!

[@andycartergolf]

Interesting opinion!! 😂😂😂

[@scott-kf1bi]

@sagutogolf hint