Ben Shapiro Vs Student On Gaza War Casualties

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Ben Shapiro debates a student at the University of Cambridge Union who asks whether the death toll could reach a number that makes Israel's war no longer justified. Ben responds powerfully.

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@shevetlevi2821
@shevetlevi2821 3 ай бұрын
Naftali Bennett made a great point about the cynically misused and overused word genocide the other day; "In war the killing stops when one side surrenders, with genocide the killing STARTS when one side surrenders." Hamas / Gaza started this war, breaking a truce, and they fall on the mercy of world opinion to save them but they are not surrendering. The deaths of Gazans are not genocide. I totally don't get the kids logic, but at least he conducted himself respectfully. We're not seeing that from the monster children Gen Zs on American college campuses.
@Ela167
@Ela167 3 ай бұрын
Eloquently said ❤
@Nyllsor
@Nyllsor 2 ай бұрын
Very good point! In war, hundreds of thousands men die In trenches. But when the killers control your streets and police stations, millions of men, women and children die.
@FrostedMike
@FrostedMike Ай бұрын
There is also a surprising amount of people who don't even understand Hamas started the war to begin with. They think Israel started the war out of pure evil intents because social media told them and they don't know it is a lie. For them it is a geocide because social media didn't tell them what Hamas is doing. It also being backed up by how news from the war spread around: Israel estimates when telling the news, Hamas reports. Lack of critical thinking also plays a factor. Not many questions how Hamas can identify 500 casualties in 10 minutes... It gets worse when even the UN is backing up Hamas despite their own investigations suggested Hamas is the evil one and lies.
@SA-uz9sn
@SA-uz9sn Күн бұрын
What truce.
@guntario2715
@guntario2715 3 ай бұрын
These people are hateful and deliberately ignore the truth.
@jamessanders8895
@jamessanders8895 3 ай бұрын
If they are Muslim, that is not true. The truth is that the Reliance of the Traveler directs all adherents of Islam to make any statement that shows Islam in the best light, no matter if it is a lie or not. Specifically, the only time they may not tell a lie is when the truth is better for Islam.
@guntario2715
@guntario2715 3 ай бұрын
​@jamessanders8895 how is that in any way related to this video where this hateful person makes a stupid point that is clearly just a disguise for hating Israel? This hateful person's point had nothing to do with Islam.
@jamessanders8895
@jamessanders8895 3 ай бұрын
@@guntario2715 There is no doubt or argument that the statement is hateful. There is no certainty the individual is a Muslim, hence the "if." Where it applies is if they are "ignoring" the truth, fundamentally twisting it in adherence to doctrine (seriously, read the indicated passage), or believe the "truth" of others over actual research. It is somewhat dependent on how you deconstruct the question that was asked and how the individual came to that wording. Also relevant is that this is a "debate format" (as opposed to "lecture" or "Q&A" format) where one of the goals is to discredit the speech of the opponent or to score "points" by making the other side unable to support their position. Ultimately, the question was asked in such a way as to illuminate the Islamic faction, Hamas, as the "poor oppressed freedom fighters" as compared to Israel's supposed heavy-handed, goose stepping, even "genocidal," actions in rooting out said faction of militants.
@westfield90
@westfield90 3 ай бұрын
I so dislike this generation for their absolute failure to recognize pure evil.
@eiyukabe
@eiyukabe 3 ай бұрын
Same. And their inability to understand basic first grade facts (like "men aren't women"). Worst generation in human history.
@Tony_M392
@Tony_M392 2 ай бұрын
The problem is that they're evil themselves, most have this negative attitude towards anything and everything especially if it's authority.
@edda682
@edda682 3 ай бұрын
Love Ben, love Israel.
@drh3b
@drh3b 3 ай бұрын
I don't love Ben, but I support him here.
@Sarah-im3lp
@Sarah-im3lp 3 ай бұрын
What about those eyebrows, do you think they're real!!
@DoraKhasidy
@DoraKhasidy 3 ай бұрын
@@Sarah-im3lpyou are sick you make me sick
@Sarah-im3lp
@Sarah-im3lp 3 ай бұрын
@@DoraKhasidy You didn't answer the question!
@EllenMalawka
@EllenMalawka 3 ай бұрын
Ben Shapiro answers the blame question over and over again Pray for Israel
@MrDeltaFan
@MrDeltaFan 3 ай бұрын
As a german i totaly agree with you: We've experienced what happens when your own government wages war against your neigbours and you didnt stop them. Then others have to stop them, no matter what it takes. The palestinians experiences the same due to not been able to defeat hamas by themselves. Let Isreal do this job and always support Isreal.
@greatMY
@greatMY 3 ай бұрын
Israel❤
@odettepaulin6056
@odettepaulin6056 3 ай бұрын
How he came to university if his intelligence like this? Is this how university accept like students like this?
@ansen7449
@ansen7449 3 ай бұрын
Universities is where you get brainwashed
@OldFroaky
@OldFroaky 3 ай бұрын
DEI at its finest 😂
@Joanne-t6j
@Joanne-t6j 3 ай бұрын
If I were a family member of one of these kids it would be of great concern. Perhaps someone should ask them, if your neighbour came into your home and kidnapped one or more of your family members and held them in the basement; would you not use every resource available to you to get them back? And what if innocent people in their house were hurt or killed because they refused to move out of the way, would you say, “Oh well, we’ll just have to stop, you can keep them and do whatever you want with them, I don’t want others to get hurt” ? These kids own family members should be concerned about their reasoning.
@joet7760
@joet7760 2 ай бұрын
I love hearing Ben speak. Two of the best most articulate speakers I have heard are him and Ari Fleischer.
@josephdavidson323
@josephdavidson323 2 ай бұрын
why isnt it a war crime to blatantly hide behind civilians?
@Magnumscrotus
@Magnumscrotus 3 ай бұрын
Man took his L calmly
@stoicepictetus3875
@stoicepictetus3875 3 ай бұрын
" Radical Islam is a snake hiding in the grass. Moderate Islam is the grass that hides the snake."
@EricBoyer-n9x
@EricBoyer-n9x 2 ай бұрын
Islam is the devils work.
@jagordon34
@jagordon34 Ай бұрын
Absolutely true.
@Sorrowblast
@Sorrowblast 14 күн бұрын
@@stoicepictetus3875 who did burn galileo Galilee at stake?
@AlvaHardison
@AlvaHardison 11 күн бұрын
Great saying!
@dinonazamodeen5694
@dinonazamodeen5694 8 күн бұрын
That is how the Jews describe other people!
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 3 ай бұрын
Yahya Sinwar said last week 'Civilian casualties are a necessary sacrifice...".
@janetprice85
@janetprice85 3 ай бұрын
So also said Hitler.
@barrybkopicz2845
@barrybkopicz2845 3 ай бұрын
​@@janetprice85What alternative universe do you live in? In February 1941, 88% of the Arab Palestinians polled expressed support for Germany, while only 9% supported England Not Just The Mufti - the real extension of the Palestinian-NAZl collaboration When HitIer proclaimed the Nuremberg Race Laws in September 1935, a number of Palestinian Arabs sent telegrams congratulating him: “Delegations from the Arab world participated in the Nuremberg marches of the NAZlS, during the 1930s, and expressed their common disgust toward the Jews and their joint accusations of the Jews… Upon the publication of the racist Nuremberg Laws in 1935, HitIer received greetings from the entire Arab world, from Morocco to Palestine, where NAZl propaganda had taken root.” The Arab NAZl movement did its utmost to bring NAZl ever closer to victory. The effort was not undertaken by a mere pack of renegade fanatics or a single military political party, but a mass movement of many thousands of Arabs and Muslums, young and old, comprising whole divisions of Arab NAZl. The Farhud: Roots of The Arab-NAZl Alliance in the Holocaust Staff F, created by HitIer to coordinate Arab movement, took command of the units. Arab fighter would wear regular German miliatary uniforms as Reich soldiers...So many volunteers answered the call that Staff F was able to organize the first wave of thousands into four more battalions....Palestinians , Egyptians, Syrians, Iraqis, Transjordanians, Saudis, Libyans, Ieanians, desert Bedouins and other Muslims who volunteered were either formed into their own unit or mixed into the larger battalions.
@MT-su2lq
@MT-su2lq 3 ай бұрын
@@janetprice85 Nope. He never would. He simply not cared. He only used that terms in an other direction - it is part of his book. It was like this "We have to get rid of the jewish. That will be hard and not easy for everyone but neccessary." Btw, in case you do not get it: Everyone = non yewish germans.
@DoraKhasidy
@DoraKhasidy 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately war about killing. People who started the war must remember this. Usually they don’t care about their civilian casualties.
@benb6527
@benb6527 3 ай бұрын
It's "on the path to liberation"
@mikerosner-e2x
@mikerosner-e2x 3 ай бұрын
Does this kid really believe that it is Israel's fault that Hamas is hiding behind civilians.
@420Stoner66
@420Stoner66 3 ай бұрын
He did, but he doubted it as he walked away
@MrMabloom
@MrMabloom 3 ай бұрын
People are sheep. And Hamas and their allies have a huge world wide campaign to turn the word against the “Zionist entity.” The people truly behind this ridiculousness hate Israel more than they care for Palestinians.
@Yara-Li
@Yara-Li 3 ай бұрын
Social media said it, so it must be true.
@tokyosundeiru2006
@tokyosundeiru2006 3 ай бұрын
I think the kid is just trying to learn. Good for him asking the questions he did not know the answer to.
@lookbovine
@lookbovine 2 ай бұрын
Is there photographic proof?
@salanzaldi4551
@salanzaldi4551 3 ай бұрын
As Douglas Murray said about Hamas, "You don't get to start a war and then complain when you're losing the war."
@Harris665
@Harris665 3 ай бұрын
It didn’t start on Oct 7..
@cuttru8041
@cuttru8041 3 ай бұрын
​@Harris665 most people are too lazy to learn the history but are very confident in their ignorant and misinformed opinions.
@PhilipOsborne-rz9eu
@PhilipOsborne-rz9eu 2 ай бұрын
​@Harris665 no but its invasion on oct7 is the result of this particular war .
@Funintherain13
@Funintherain13 2 ай бұрын
@@Harris665well this current war actually did, so that is not really true. But if you mean the Middle East conflict then yes. But seeing how Arafat walked out of Camp David Accords and Palestine have rejected peace offers since it is blindingly obvious to all that the root of the problem is Palestinian rejectionism.
@jackiem907
@jackiem907 2 ай бұрын
@@cuttru8041 Not most people on this site. We'd all be happy to go one on one with you on the history and maybe you may learn something yourself.
@Former_Leftist_Jew
@Former_Leftist_Jew 3 ай бұрын
"You can't attack them because they're hiding behind civilians." Then literally every aggressor in the world will adopt that strategy. How do these idiots not see that?
@WES-z5m
@WES-z5m 3 ай бұрын
It only works when you can place the blame on Jews
@SnowWhite-z7c
@SnowWhite-z7c 3 ай бұрын
They do see it, they don't care.
@GODCONVOYPRIME
@GODCONVOYPRIME 3 ай бұрын
@@SnowWhite-z7c Jew Derangement Syndrome is the new Trump Derangement Syndrome
@janieraltreche1989
@janieraltreche1989 3 ай бұрын
They don’t live it
@sam-te1fu
@sam-te1fu 3 ай бұрын
They see it, they’re just too dumb to comprehend the implications of it.
@beesinthegardens
@beesinthegardens 3 ай бұрын
Hiding behind kids is cowardice. Face your opponent
@jamescarpenter7161
@jamescarpenter7161 19 күн бұрын
Hiding behind any civilians is cowardly.
@JohnRochford-w4r
@JohnRochford-w4r 3 ай бұрын
You cant start a war then say stop killing our civilians
@MrJoelyms
@MrJoelyms Ай бұрын
or, You can't start a war by killing civilians and then say, sto killing civilians. And, BTW, are people forgetting what Hamas did to the Israeli civilians they killed? People were burned to death.....and much worse.
@rankobarensic
@rankobarensic 3 ай бұрын
Ben is a gem ❤
@1DaTJo
@1DaTJo 3 ай бұрын
It shows the utter depravity and subhuman cowardice of Hamas that they hide behind women and kids.
@45eno
@45eno 3 ай бұрын
And those that naively blame Israel for the lives lost in gaza.
@shahadathkadir5823
@shahadathkadir5823 3 ай бұрын
Hiding behind civilians ? or behind RPG's dropping your diaper soldiers like flies in Rafah & Jibalia , turning the Zionist invaders tanks & bulldozers into fireballs . 70,000 boy soldiers have been disabled plus 17 yesterday . It is the cowardly tic tok soldiers that is hiding behind Palestine prisoners & living in residential areas . But Hezbollah is , at the moment , picking them off , with precision strikes ,
@JesusisGod-yf5bk
@JesusisGod-yf5bk 3 ай бұрын
Amen!
@Aquascape_Dreaming
@Aquascape_Dreaming 3 ай бұрын
​@@couldbe8348if you mean Israel is done with playing around, then yes I agree. If you meant Israel is finished and will be soon destroyed, I have to wonder what it is you're smoking or drinking.
@AdamDorfman82
@AdamDorfman82 3 ай бұрын
It’s exactly the opposite of what the guy saying who is challenging Ben He is suggesting that Israel in dangers it citizens in the same way that Hamas endangers its citizens in order to have equivalency
@marykotuba6901
@marykotuba6901 3 ай бұрын
Israel literally begs people to leave because of bombing. They stay. Why aren't people condemning Hamas???? Using children as human shields is so despicable & yet they say not a word against Hamas.
@Harris665
@Harris665 3 ай бұрын
‘Human shields’ really?
@cuttru8041
@cuttru8041 3 ай бұрын
Are you saying Hamas is attaching the children to their forearms and using them as "shields" as IDF bombs hospitals, refugee camps, cemeteries, mosques, churches, etc?
@danbaumann8273
@danbaumann8273 3 ай бұрын
Because they can't and just as likely won't believe such a thing is happening. They can't deal with it. Scares the crap out of them and their fragile egos. Its easier to imagine an army or people blowing up a city block than it is some random, individual, loser, fanatic, disembowling a pregnant woman or shooting a family, children and all, in their living room. Much less personal. It relieves them of their own moral responsibility and are therefore not only free of the discomfort and fear, but can rather feel self righteous and even superior in their positions. Both a protection and an ego boost at the same time as has often been demonstrated in history by many who have and will do or sacrifice anything to avoid their said egos being challenged. They are in essence moral cowards and have chosen the path of the self righteous bully that can avoid the whole thing by well, being a self righteous bully. They no longer have to see or admit any dark potential in themselves because it not only frightens them but is even beneath them. They are " the good ones" you see. Everything in their minds is a case of "the good and the evil" the "right" and the "wrong" which paradoxically and ironically becomes the root of the problem. Yup, a case of good and evil, the right and the wrong. One can see this kind of stance in a lot of highly religious people. My theory anyways and I don't think it's a bad one.
@Mizuna752
@Mizuna752 2 ай бұрын
@@Harris665 What do you call it? They literally set up their base of operations in the middle of hospitals and medical facilities, schools and really anywhere you can find a large collection of women and children.
@rissaleeh7766
@rissaleeh7766 2 ай бұрын
Yes, really! ​@@Harris665
@Rochester92G
@Rochester92G 3 ай бұрын
Every time I hear the word "student", I expect stupidity right after.
@vld7850
@vld7850 3 ай бұрын
SAME HERE!
@HaleyMary
@HaleyMary 3 ай бұрын
I'm getting to that point, as well, of expecting stupidity. If any "student" actually showed intelligence, I'd be shocked.
@philipgibbs5751
@philipgibbs5751 3 ай бұрын
Rarely disappointed
@ZaideZaide770
@ZaideZaide770 3 ай бұрын
Truth......
@jamessanders8895
@jamessanders8895 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, that is the point of going to school as a student (supposedly): To be educated out of the state of ignorance.
@johncatto5019
@johncatto5019 3 ай бұрын
Hamas started the war and hamas has made the war last as long as it has. You cannot blame Israel.
@abidmahmood8961
@abidmahmood8961 3 ай бұрын
The war dis nit atsrt on 7 Oct 23. In 2023, Terrorist IDF and terrorist settlers murdered 250 Palestinian in the West Bank. This started in 1917 Balfour declaration. Why do zionist only use hamas reactions as a starting point rather than looking at all the atrocities committed over 75 years inc 750000 Palestinians exiled in 1948 from newly created Israel
@Brucemcleod2345
@Brucemcleod2345 3 ай бұрын
Actually the UN, USA and liberals are at fault and have extended the war by restraining 🇮🇱 Israel
@vld7850
@vld7850 3 ай бұрын
AMEN!
@ibrahimanan1874
@ibrahimanan1874 3 ай бұрын
Israel besieged the residents and protected Hamas within the siege.
@critex123
@critex123 3 ай бұрын
And who started fue invasion?
@terieffo8
@terieffo8 3 ай бұрын
There are thousands like this young man that just do not understand what is going on. They live in a simplistic world.
@Harris665
@Harris665 3 ай бұрын
How do you dress yourself in the morning every day??
@terieffo8
@terieffo8 3 ай бұрын
@@Harris665 as usual.
@paulcarfantan6688
@paulcarfantan6688 2 ай бұрын
Yes, they live in an "Elmo" world with rainbows and unicorns.
@kyliejohn3813
@kyliejohn3813 3 ай бұрын
You can’t hide among women & children and cry “you’re killing women & children”.
@johanngoethe6729
@johanngoethe6729 3 ай бұрын
The real problem is those in the West who live under a view that "perception is reality" instead of rejecting the Islamic pattern of lies. Propaganda wins when truth and morals are blurred in our society.
@SnowWhite-z7c
@SnowWhite-z7c 3 ай бұрын
@@jchan9761 Like the original commentor said, "You can’t hide among women & children and cry 'you’re killing women & children”.
@yevgenymashenberg2369
@yevgenymashenberg2369 3 ай бұрын
@@jchan9761poor lost soul 🤦🏻‍♂️
@aguntoroti5318
@aguntoroti5318 3 ай бұрын
​@@jchan9761 you always love to lies, why ?
@tomgallagher7870
@tomgallagher7870 3 ай бұрын
Was ben shapiro a good example to show on morality?
@Ilforever1124
@Ilforever1124 3 ай бұрын
FACT: On October 7th, Palestinians celebrated in the streets, distributed cakes, and helped kidnap Israelis to Gaza, into the tunnels. They also, in exchange for money, kept the kidnapped individuals in their homes to blend them into the population.
@FrostedMike
@FrostedMike Ай бұрын
People ignore the fact that after Hamas invaded, civilians followed. People also need to understand that the moment you hold a weapon you are a target and a threat. It doesn't matter what you wear, how old are you and what you did before.
@JeffSmith-pl2pj
@JeffSmith-pl2pj 2 күн бұрын
If they treated the captured Israelis like guests, they may have been decent people caught in an unfortunate situation, If they treated them cruelly they will, most likely have to answer for it.
@moalerivu2139
@moalerivu2139 3 ай бұрын
Amazing that so many people don't understand what genocide is, but use the word so freely.
@teonactalpizza
@teonactalpizza 3 ай бұрын
They do understand they are purposely mischaracterizing.
@AkeelBuckus
@AkeelBuckus 3 ай бұрын
Oh Satan has his way with his puppets
@ItzCoopzFtw
@ItzCoopzFtw 3 ай бұрын
@@AkeelBuckus *cough* mohamed *cough*
@janetprice85
@janetprice85 3 ай бұрын
Living in gated communities or taught religious bigotry from childhood is a sure bet to encourage hate based on ignorance supported by stereotypes not facts.
@malvolio01
@malvolio01 3 ай бұрын
@@janetprice85huh?
@your_bases_are_belong_to_us
@your_bases_are_belong_to_us 3 ай бұрын
imagine you are in a fist fight and as you are about to strike your opponent, he raises his kid and uses him as his shield. Who is the bad guy in this scenario?
@Harris665
@Harris665 3 ай бұрын
The bad guys are the occupiers
@your_bases_are_belong_to_us
@your_bases_are_belong_to_us 3 ай бұрын
@@Harris665 exactly. the occupiers. or shall we say squatters. Israel has claim to the land 3000 years longer than the palestinians. here is a little trivia for you: the year today is 2024. And that is AD. After Death. Of Jesus Christ. Yes a Jew. Born in Bethlehem in Israel. During a time when the Roman Empired conquered even Israel. So yes the whole worlds calendar is based on the deaht of the Jew Jesus Christ. That gives you an idea on how long the Jews have been living in Israel. But before Jesus was even born in bethlehem the Jews have been living in Israel for more than 2 millenniums. That two thousand years by the way. So yes those palestinian occupiers should be so lucky that they got gaza, originally an israel land, given to them.
@lts5674
@lts5674 3 ай бұрын
​@Harris665 Then we should all be out to the sword since every person in earth currently occupies a space previously occupied by other people. All one must simply do is point to a convenient plot in history to justify their actions in th3 name if irredentism. Israel, a thriving nation with an advanced arms complex isn't going anywhere. No amount of lamenting their existence in that region will change it. Move the conversation beyond no solution based rhetoric. I love statements like "Palestinians have a right to defend themselves" and "IL is an occupier" because it undermines your own humanitarian act because you can justify violence and killing, so long as it isn't towards the side you like and if the side you like does incur losses, than it's acceptable in the name of irredentism. I could go on but you should get the point. *Spelling
@eiyukabe
@eiyukabe 3 ай бұрын
@@Harris665 So the Islamic Arabs that invaded the region through the violent expansion of the Ottoman Empire long after Jews held claim to the land? I agree. The occupiers are the bad guys. But you failed to understand the analogy (as your kind usually does).
@Harris665
@Harris665 3 ай бұрын
@@lts5674 my religion is a new one and it’s called klazah. My god has promised me YOUR house. Will you go be me your house??
@oldschool1993
@oldschool1993 3 ай бұрын
The kid left the podium and called his mom to see if she cleaned his room and washed his clothes for the protest tomorrow.
@OldFroaky
@OldFroaky 3 ай бұрын
And to confirm his gender
@lilybond6485
@lilybond6485 3 ай бұрын
@oldschool1993: 😂
@DoraKhasidy
@DoraKhasidy 3 ай бұрын
No amount of evidence will ever convince an idiots
@AndrewHindley
@AndrewHindley 3 ай бұрын
Well said,sad but true
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet 3 ай бұрын
Why a Israel expected to coddle these people?
@Miraclehealings7355c9b
@Miraclehealings7355c9b 3 ай бұрын
I AGREE WITH BEN SHAPIRO..
@hockeylilly
@hockeylilly 3 ай бұрын
Israel's actions are not evil. Why people can't see that Israel is protecting and trying to preserve its very existence is beyond me.
@malvolio01
@malvolio01 3 ай бұрын
They don’t want to
@daves.9479
@daves.9479 3 ай бұрын
Israel is also doing its best to liberate "Palestinians" from Hamas' oppression. So much tangled muddled thinking by Hamas "supporters"...
@malvolio01
@malvolio01 3 ай бұрын
@@daves.9479 I used to think it was muddled thinking. Not so sure anymore. I think a lot of it is just classic Jew-hatred. Whatever Israel does is wrong.
@thewjeither
@thewjeither 3 ай бұрын
ive quickly learned growing up people just seem to hate jews. Somehow muslims are looked at like they're sick puppys while they call for the death of countless different people.
@jittmet7766
@jittmet7766 3 ай бұрын
They can. They just don't care.
@barbaradownie3265
@barbaradownie3265 3 ай бұрын
💜🇮🇱💜🇮🇱💜🇮🇱💜🇮🇱💜🇮🇱💜🇮🇱💜🇮🇱💜
@laurensauvageot1196
@laurensauvageot1196 3 ай бұрын
Spot on Ben. Too bad Candace Owens will not see it that way.
@dawsondetrana5496
@dawsondetrana5496 2 ай бұрын
Candace wanted to create headlines, there's no way she can be against Ben on this if she's ever listened to him
@AlvaHardison
@AlvaHardison 11 күн бұрын
Candace has become an apologice for NAZI. It got so bad her father in law, who is in the house of lords in GB had to release a statement.
@NarnianRailway
@NarnianRailway 3 ай бұрын
Also people like that student ignore that Hamas fires many rockets from civilian locations indiscriminately at civilian targets. Many Hamas rockets misfire and actually kill Palestinians yet it is Israel that is blamed for those civilian deaths by Hamas.
@JoaoSoares-rs6ec
@JoaoSoares-rs6ec 3 ай бұрын
thid kid needs to stop playing games and actualy learn what war is,
@CodeMonkey66
@CodeMonkey66 3 ай бұрын
Those Palestinians, in Gaza, could have left there at any time, but they choose not to because they support Hamas. They should at least bear responsibility for voting for and being part of Hamas, a terrorist organization.
@cuttru8041
@cuttru8041 3 ай бұрын
How exactly would they leave? Gaza has been blockaded from all sides. Perhaps, try learning the conditions of Gaza before Oct 7th. Furthermore, maybe you should learn how Hamas was founded and why Netanyahu propped them up in the past.
@charleshewitt6180
@charleshewitt6180 3 ай бұрын
The moral thing for an army to do is to surrender when it has no chance of winning. So which side would that be? As always, Hamas continues to fight the war in the media at the cost of Gaza and the Arabs living there.
@jb_4379
@jb_4379 3 ай бұрын
so who has no chance to win?
@miksn222
@miksn222 2 ай бұрын
​@@jb_4379 hamas has no chance of winning
@HarryBolsak
@HarryBolsak 2 ай бұрын
This is the first example in history of a side that is losing but is behaving in negotiations as if it's winning. Absolutely insane
@elviralizo1744
@elviralizo1744 2 ай бұрын
@@HarryBolsak
@gabrial407
@gabrial407 Ай бұрын
Do you hear yourself? Of course Hamas is in the wrong but it's the same as if a person (Israel) kept murdering a family (Palestinian civilians) because a criminal(Hamas) was hiding among them refusing to surrender. Absolutely morally bankrupt.
@717shred
@717shred 3 ай бұрын
The overwhelming obsession to critique everything about Jews and Israel's right to sovereignty security and life is nauseating and exhausting to the extreme.
@anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808
@anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808 3 ай бұрын
*In brief, Hamas makes urban warfare necessary.* And thus, they are responsible for civilian casualties.
@eveopema8266
@eveopema8266 3 ай бұрын
God bless Bibi and his people. ❤
@malachi9887
@malachi9887 3 ай бұрын
We are not his people, he's not king just a politician.
@AkeelBuckus
@AkeelBuckus 3 ай бұрын
​@@malachi9887nobody is praising him,just blessing him.Relax
@IronDragon-2143
@IronDragon-2143 3 ай бұрын
My fiancee who is a Christian Jew herself, and I plan on going to Israel one day to be baptized together in the River Jordan.
@OldFroaky
@OldFroaky 3 ай бұрын
Christian Jew is an oxymoron 😂 but glad you support Israel
@IronDragon-2143
@IronDragon-2143 3 ай бұрын
@OldFroaky Well, she's an ethnic Jew but not religiously Jewish. She and I are practicing Presbyterians if that makes any sense. But thanks.
@dianefalk5681
@dianefalk5681 3 ай бұрын
​@@OldFroakyJesus was a Jew!
@welllll...ok...
@welllll...ok... 3 ай бұрын
Why is it Israel's fault that Hamas is evil? What the...? Why is no one condemning Hamas for putting their own people at risk?
@PhilipOsborne-rz9eu
@PhilipOsborne-rz9eu 2 ай бұрын
These fools are blind it suits they're agenda
@barbaradownie3265
@barbaradownie3265 3 ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@billstebbins4389
@billstebbins4389 3 ай бұрын
I believe it was John Spencer who said that Israel is doing the impossible. They are protecting the Gaza civilians better than in any other urban war in history. The number of civilians killed is by an order of magnitude lower than what one would expect. John Spencer is considered the world's leading expert on urban warfare. He literally wrote the book on it.
@Cordondetresdobleces-gv6ig
@Cordondetresdobleces-gv6ig 3 ай бұрын
The blame is on Hamas, not Israel.
@JesusisGod-yf5bk
@JesusisGod-yf5bk 3 ай бұрын
God bless Israel!!!!!!!!❤❤❤
@hermandegroot1946
@hermandegroot1946 2 ай бұрын
If there was a god there would be no war, no suffering and no Trump also.
@JesusisGod-yf5bk
@JesusisGod-yf5bk 2 ай бұрын
@@hermandegroot1946 you do not know Him, nor seek to know Him, but God is who He is whether you belive it or not. He is love. He is good. He is perfect and Holy. You still have a chance to seek Him and find Him. Read the entire Bible, what have you got to lose?
@hermandegroot1946
@hermandegroot1946 2 ай бұрын
@@JesusisGod-yf5bk Sir, with all respect, but you also don't know god. Nobody has ever seen of spoken to him/her. The bible was written by a bunch of men who didn't know that earth rotated around the sun and..... 2000 years ago! Never has any god written something , it is all written by MEN and not even women. You are lied to. Watch Matt Dillahunty.....The Line
@JesusisGod-yf5bk
@JesusisGod-yf5bk 2 ай бұрын
@@hermandegroot1946 I know that the archeology dug up in Israel confirms the places, people and events written in the word of God. I know that prophecy written in the Bible has and does and continues to come true. So I go by evidence, all of which I see written in the word of God.
@conniedevos7900
@conniedevos7900 3 ай бұрын
Well said Ben.😂
@Graeme-jr1dd
@Graeme-jr1dd 3 ай бұрын
All an horrendous lie towards the poor Jewish people!! I beg of you G-D help your your people. Amen 🙏
@theoutspokenhumanist
@theoutspokenhumanist 3 ай бұрын
You know both sides pray to the same god, right? Isn't it clear by now that this god either is not there or does not care?
@Sarah-im3lp
@Sarah-im3lp 3 ай бұрын
LOL! Israel's propaganda is extremely effective!!
@DoraKhasidy
@DoraKhasidy 3 ай бұрын
@@theoutspokenhumanistyes we have one and only but different ways to pray.
@yevgenymashenberg2369
@yevgenymashenberg2369 3 ай бұрын
@@theoutspokenhumanistexcuse me 😡 it’s ignorant to say that they pray to same god 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@brotherhu51hu68
@brotherhu51hu68 3 ай бұрын
All believe there's 1 and only 1 God,but who had believed the "correct" God is the question. I don't know what the Jew had any recording of the current events, but it's the Christian's recording that Jew shall be re-stated, attacked from everyone else, and God still be with Israel. It's also recorded, hard hearted will no see the truth even it's happening in front of their eyes.
@ntme9
@ntme9 3 ай бұрын
The answer is as many as it takes simply because that is their government and that's who they elected and if they don't like it then they can step up to help get rid of them instead of aiding and abetting them.
@pandafan4672
@pandafan4672 3 ай бұрын
Just to put Gaza in scale. Deaths in Gaza per day (Hamas + civilians): 148/day. Deaths in Okinawa during WWII (Japanese military + civilians) : 1,750-2,360 / day. And you are entirely correct. War is terrible, but it isn't AT ALL genocide. War ends when one side says "we give up".
@owenfautley
@owenfautley 3 ай бұрын
I am surprised you have not covered the interview the the now freed Israeli peace activist who had their ideals changed due to the ordeal she went through.
@shawnabrody8325
@shawnabrody8325 3 ай бұрын
The world has got to STOP blaming Israel for Hamas's War Crimes -!
@lookbovine
@lookbovine 2 ай бұрын
Collective punishment is a war crime.
@panu-c4k
@panu-c4k 3 ай бұрын
no need to explain more, it is a war . if u want to play war game it must be like this ! it is not about right or wrong in war in real time . only winning is the goal. what do expect from war , war is hell according to it's deifinition , if don't want to get hurt , don't fool with War . right !
@MindTheHeart
@MindTheHeart 3 ай бұрын
Comparing Israel with Hamas is insane.
@Libby_Jana
@Libby_Jana 3 ай бұрын
People want the impossible but not by them... Israel have to, somahow.
@Cyberdyneskynet
@Cyberdyneskynet 3 ай бұрын
I wonder what Candace has to to say about this. She has child level basic understanding of this war. She is totally lost and ignorant about this!
@Jojo-bm4tb
@Jojo-bm4tb 3 ай бұрын
the student sounds like AI. 😂
@Awtsmoos
@Awtsmoos Ай бұрын
Even ai is better
@Beskoeh
@Beskoeh 3 ай бұрын
Yea, you got it spot on m8. Its childish levels of understanding of morality.
@bernardk5189
@bernardk5189 3 ай бұрын
Hamas learned that from Arafat and the PLO. They did that in the 70s. Hiding and shooting their arms in with civilians. Of course Israel was condemned then too. It's a strategy that has worked well for the terrorist groups against Israel.
@johanngoethe6729
@johanngoethe6729 3 ай бұрын
Since the Islamic nations will not surrender the Hamas leadership out of Qatar, to face justice for Hamas tactics of using civilian shields, this is a problem with Islam. The non-Islamic countries need to apply economic pressure, but the world will not defend Jews.
@janetprice85
@janetprice85 3 ай бұрын
Old bigots obviously still in the UN and EU.As for Brits? Well too many immigrants. As for the US senile leadership and corruption.
@Noel-p8y
@Noel-p8y 3 ай бұрын
Ben is right, Hamas are to blame for all of this, what cowards, if Hitler had put women and children on the front on their planes, tanks and submarines, would these people still say don’t attack them, just let them come for us.
@hugooliveira5578
@hugooliveira5578 3 ай бұрын
Hitler did put children In the front lines. At the end of the war do defend Berlin.
@lookbovine
@lookbovine 2 ай бұрын
There’s proof IDF uses human shields to find bombs in tunnels for them, they dress them as soldiers. Is there evidence for H’s human shields?
@johncane4507
@johncane4507 3 ай бұрын
How about not commit atrocities? That would be a good start.
@lookbovine
@lookbovine 2 ай бұрын
This is G. In Gaza 39k killed, 85k injured, 32k amputated limbs, 21k missing or orphaned children, 10k under the rubble, 2 million homeless, 500k without school. 20k Palestinians in prisons from both territories.
@chewface
@chewface 3 ай бұрын
The only people who can defend Hamas....are either: A.) Hamas. B.) People who don't know what Hamas is.
@TheTibetyak
@TheTibetyak 3 ай бұрын
Very shortly after Oct. 7, one of the Hamas leaders (Sinwar?) openly stated that this was the planned strategy, that many Palestinians would die but it was their purpose to serve Islam and become martyrs in the fight against Israel.
@rantsfromthesofa4653
@rantsfromthesofa4653 3 ай бұрын
The US, England and their allies didn’t let the fact that would have to kill civilians deter them in WWII. England bombed the hell out of Germany knowing it would be killing civilians. And how many civilians were killed when the US bombed Japan. It’s unreasonable to believe a country can defend itself against an enemy in war without civilian deaths.
@Sarah-im3lp
@Sarah-im3lp 3 ай бұрын
We had the Geneva Conventions to prevent the horrors of WW2 from ever happening again! We live in a different time, and we've defined war crimes!! Stop making excuses for Israel!! It's really getting sickening!
@OldFroaky
@OldFroaky 3 ай бұрын
Really so how about all wars fought after WWII ? Did no kids die then get a brain. Also the Geneva convention was to prevent Nazi war crimes from happening again not against what the Allis did
@DanTheManGruen
@DanTheManGruen 3 ай бұрын
Ben is the most education these kids get 😂
@therealbahamut
@therealbahamut 3 ай бұрын
Batman: "How many have I killed by letting you live?" Joker: "I never kept count!" Batman: "I DID." Joker: "I know! And I love ya for it." Evil people know that good people don't WANT to hurt innocents and they WILL hide behind them to get away with murder. There comes a point where you have to stop letting evil people get away with it, even if it means getting your hands dirty. It's good that you might place importance on the moral high ground and try as hard as you can NOT to cause collateral damage and innocent deaths but at some point you simply have to recognize that ending the threat may be worth a short-term sacrifice. Otherwise the threat never ends...and the sacrifices keep happening.
@SnowWhite-z7c
@SnowWhite-z7c 3 ай бұрын
Keep up the reporting! - From Texas :D
@clintsieber3372
@clintsieber3372 3 ай бұрын
Hamas pays for international support in the currency of its own civilian casualties. But they aren't really casualties because they are murdered victims of Hamas. That is pure evil.
@oaklee4870
@oaklee4870 3 ай бұрын
If they surrender and release all the hostages then no more civilians are victims. Surrender and save lives! Something tells me they don't want to save lives 🤔
@Ela167
@Ela167 3 ай бұрын
Ben explains so eloquently. One awesome individual. Unfortunately, you can't fight stupid
@doctorcrypto3048
@doctorcrypto3048 3 ай бұрын
Amen Ben🙏
@anorthernsoul5600
@anorthernsoul5600 3 ай бұрын
The Cambridge Union debate with Shapiro was far more civil and intelligent on the part of those students who engaged with Ben Shapiro, compared to the Oxford Union debate which was an absolute disgrace.
@samyouel4596
@samyouel4596 3 ай бұрын
I commend that guy for just saying thankyou and walking away when shown he was wrong. Most student at these things dont act the same.
@mitchellcarr3307
@mitchellcarr3307 3 ай бұрын
Shalom Israel
@stephaniepilecki2774
@stephaniepilecki2774 3 ай бұрын
Go, Ben!
@gideonlapidus8996
@gideonlapidus8996 3 ай бұрын
This student doesn't know what barbarians are
@lookbovine
@lookbovine 2 ай бұрын
Human animals? Like concentration camp inmates? Like occupied peoples?
@katemaloney4296
@katemaloney4296 3 ай бұрын
Somewhere in Hell Hitler, Mussolini, and Yakimoto are thinking: "Wait! New wargame plan: You shouldn't be able to kill civilians to get to the enemy?! Why didn't WE think of that?!?!?"
@gayeflockheart4258
@gayeflockheart4258 2 ай бұрын
That's why I don't understand the reasoning behind the pro Palestine activists..it makes no sense at all 😢
@MrDjpitz
@MrDjpitz 2 ай бұрын
I can help clarify it for you if you'd like. The question is do you want to understand the other side? Not intended to insult you in any way and honestly hope you want to understand the opposing view, even if you don't agree with it.
@cwcamper9091
@cwcamper9091 3 ай бұрын
Right on point, both of you.
@veramae4098
@veramae4098 3 ай бұрын
Hamas expects Israel to behave better than Hamas behaves. And for much of the conflict Israel has behaved better.
@cupholder7758
@cupholder7758 3 ай бұрын
Apparently, the study of military warfare has escaped a lot of people.
@Gggxsdg345
@Gggxsdg345 3 ай бұрын
Only evidence of human shields came from our side, This is not a valid excuse of our armies incompotence throughout the war.
@kimg745
@kimg745 3 ай бұрын
Ben again right on point. Bravo brave citizen solder of justice. Shalom.
@Badkharma21
@Badkharma21 3 ай бұрын
It’s basic logic and reason tied to morality that is the difference. Israel is doing just that.
@BonesTheCat
@BonesTheCat 3 ай бұрын
Who would've thought war is terrible. I recommend not starting wars to avoid civilian deaths. It's fascinating no one who raises this question puts any of the blame on hamas.
@ismayilarifoglu6226
@ismayilarifoglu6226 3 ай бұрын
Palestinian university of Oxfordabadshire in UK 😂
@JohnPastor-hg3dx
@JohnPastor-hg3dx 3 ай бұрын
How do you change people who have been taught from childhood to hate Mary Ann
@happyasthereeverwas
@happyasthereeverwas 3 ай бұрын
Go Ben ❤ great explanation
@havilahfarm1591
@havilahfarm1591 3 ай бұрын
When did people complain abt war before? Like when? When did the world care about Arab deaths in Iraq Syria etc? What abt Yemen, Armenia, Uighurs? Nobody protested nobody wore a scarf and shouted stuff
@Andre99328
@Andre99328 3 ай бұрын
People don't know what war means. In order to bring Nazi Germany down, the Allies not only bomb German cities, but, as an example, also German forced labour camps, killing Poles, Jews and other innocent people; the Royal navy bombed the French fleet in Mers-el-Kebir so it would not fall into German hands and killed 1,200 French sailors. Was it necessary to win the war? Who knows? The commanders ordering those attacks thought so. Again, war is terrible and it always kills innocent people. I am German and I stand with Israel.
@JingleJangle256
@JingleJangle256 19 күн бұрын
This is where I bring up the restriction of humanitarian aid and the indefinite shut downs of hospitals for civilians in a warzone. I know Hamas will use some of the aid to sustain themselves and have used hospitals to stage attacks, but that isn’t a justification for Israel to shut it down and subject the civilian population to horrific, life-threatening conditions. It’s made worse by the fact that the people in Gaza can’t leave. They are surrounded on all sides by Israeli forces. Israel controls the border with Egypt. And they can’t just move into refugee camps, since it’s very apparent they aren’t safe from air strikes there, either. You can say that Hamas is a repugnant organization that couldn’t care less about it’s people, but that isn’t a justification for Israel to engage in extraordinary neglect (and “neglect” is being charitable) of the humanitarian needs of the civilians in Gaza.
@shtotyme
@shtotyme Ай бұрын
Ben Shapiro, the smartest person I know.... period
@ChasoGod
@ChasoGod 2 ай бұрын
It should be practice that if you start a war you loose the ability to play the Victim card.. If anyone responds with "Israel started it in 1948" they need to reread the history books cause they didn't start it. The British Mandate EXPIRED (meaning that no country/nation had legal claim to the land) and Israel declared its independence then the NEXT DAY the surrounding Arab nations declared war against Israel and those nations called for the evacuation of the Arabs in the region.
@PackItUpShipAndPrint
@PackItUpShipAndPrint 2 ай бұрын
Instead of blaming Israel for the collateral deaths of civilians why can't they blame the Palestinians for allowing Hamas to operate in Gaza. Its just pure hated towards the jews
@ChryssaEvans
@ChryssaEvans 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr Ben Shapiro. These facts must be heard over and over again for some people to comprehend.
@John14-6...
@John14-6... 2 ай бұрын
I'm not 100% sure but I think it was Netanyahu who said that "Hamas uses its civilans to protect their weapons whereas Israel uses its weapons to protect their civilians."
@MikeC_CdnEng
@MikeC_CdnEng 3 ай бұрын
Answering that question on simple moral grounds may seem easy (for some). But the clarity in his response - "why the question itself is not valid". That response could only come from a Marvel-Superhero mind and it's the stuff of legend.
@jutabursey4504
@jutabursey4504 2 ай бұрын
Hamas declared war when they invaded Israel! People gave Hamas the green light to go after Israel!
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