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@goooooller93536 ай бұрын
I've been practicing in dry fire with keeping my thumbs floating like you mentioned in a previous video. This is a good companion video to reinforce proper grip techniques. Thanks Ben for the great content.
@grilin18.6 ай бұрын
The middle finger tip is gonna be a big help for me I have really bad inter muscular movement with my index and middle finger
@omnivore22206 ай бұрын
Hey, this guy is pretty good. I'd suggest paying attention to him.
@zaiquiri1799Ай бұрын
He should probably try his hand at shooting for competition
@ap71chevssАй бұрын
@@zaiquiri1799😂
@annemartinez42792 ай бұрын
Interesting, this is making me realize I might be applying too much pressure with my thumbs, which I then find myself readjusting.
@whitetigerdojo29256 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you continue to go over grip from different angles, perspectives, etc. First time out to the range today since watching this yesterday, and I immediately noticed a difference. Thank you!
@Whiskey.Tango.Actual13 күн бұрын
Cool thing is that "the hits go where you're looking" thing also works for iron sights. Always has. The whole "front sight focus" thing is literally nonsense.
@HappyGh0st906 ай бұрын
I want to see the focus video , I’m learning more about target focus and want to hear more
@gulkash11886 ай бұрын
The timing of this is very ironic, since it hits as I am transitioning to a glock-esq pistol and keep hitting the slide catch with the meat of my support hand. Trying the floaty thumbs I can visually see space between the controls and my hand now. Nifty, and appreciated
@leekellerking6 ай бұрын
My problem is that I have a tendency to hit the magazine catch with my support hand if my grip is not exactly right. It sucks to get off 3-4 rounds dead center, only to have to tap rack to get the next round to go. 😢 It happens more often with my Glock 48, but I've had it happen with my Glock 34, too. 😮
@gulkash11886 ай бұрын
@@leekellerking I know a few people who have that happen. Are you using the stock size release?
@UrbanDefenseSystems4 ай бұрын
Kagwerkz slide release, you're welcome.
@rodneybonds84666 ай бұрын
Good afternoon Ben, what’s the min/max distance for the drill. I appreciate your candor and commitment to the community. Wish you could do a class near Lexington, Ky. Be well!
@pilot_mm90166 ай бұрын
Me too! I would be there
@UrbanDefenseSystems4 ай бұрын
In his book, all his drills are applicable from 3 yards all the way out to 25 yards. But the standard is mostly always 7 yards
@chap233056 ай бұрын
Brennan from Gateway defense said something that has stuck with me throughout my "grip journey". He said he spent probably about 5k rounds over about 2 months trying to figure out his grip issues. He said at the end, he wasn't near perfect, but he was able to consistently "do the thing" (as Ben would say). After this, he was able to live fire much less, and be more effective. Obviously not everyone can afford to do this, and with the appropriate concentration and specificity in dry fire, I'm sure you could work out your grip with less rounds. However, I took this approach and burned through 3.5k rounds over two months. Daily dry fire. Twice a week live fire (mostly doubles). Pouring over this channel and PSTG. At the end, I was finally able to get my grip (close) to where I wanted it to be. Now I have pulled my live count WAY down, and seem to have no progress resistance. With the appropriate guidance and analysis, quantity has a quality of it's own if you can afford it.
@atomicsmith6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I have begun to suspect this about a lot of ‘training’. Most of the words are basically meaningless because the instructor got good mostly through high round counts. They’ve found a set of words that works for them, but might have zero value for you…
@chap233056 ай бұрын
@atomicsmith Yes and no. I know lots of cops who shoot thousands of rounds and suck lol. I would say you have to have a little knowledge to be able to even accurately analyze what to change in those rounds to improve. However, to your point, I think guys who do it on a lower round counts (such as how Ben did) have a better understanding for what is actually happening, and what actually needs to happen. They show a higher physical intelligence to me.
@JustinV9116 ай бұрын
I’ve been doing a lot of dryfire, and focusing on grip but unfortunately only get to live fire about once a month I see some issues in my grip I’m not happy with and then start second guessing myself all the way to the next month Mostly pressure related. Taking a class next week so hopefully this will get me on the right path
@Sandhill19884 күн бұрын
As long as you can hit center mass at a man size target at ten feet you're good.
@jp_06 ай бұрын
Gold. Again. Thank you.
@tylerfrogley12276 ай бұрын
Just curious… what’s your avg age of a class 😂
@RockinRack2 ай бұрын
Its nice seeing a pro teach something different. I have recently been trying out these super tight grip and super forward thumb techniques and it feels like a little less flip but also less return to zero vs before i was doing pretty well with 0 technique aside from what was comfortable from years of shooting
@Bane_Diesel6 ай бұрын
I know you are pumping out content like crazy but I am wondering do you have plans to ever watch clips of people and critique them? I record all of my uspsa matches to watch over and see what I did wrong and what I can do better.
@BenStoeger1876 ай бұрын
I do that every day on PSTG
@Bane_Diesel6 ай бұрын
@@BenStoeger187 practical shooting training group on yt?
@leekellerking6 ай бұрын
@BenStoeger187, which class was this from? Did you cover this in the classes you talk at KR Training last time?
@BenStoeger1876 ай бұрын
This is discussed in pretty much every class. This video is from Florida and taken on Saturday.
@leekellerking6 ай бұрын
@@BenStoeger187 Great. You coming back to A Zone next year??? 🙏
@TheFordtough256 ай бұрын
Ben you rock sir! This helped me more than I knew at first. Thanks!
@NESig6 ай бұрын
What grip tape do you have on that soulless plastic gun?
@melooperadventures77103 ай бұрын
Bro what Glock model is that?
@MatthewC1766 ай бұрын
What we need isn’t a grip video I’ve come to realize, it’s a recoil control video, what do you do to return the dot to the target, because while you say vision does that you are physically doing something to achieve that return with your arms and/or your hands. Because when you’re reactively shooting it’s just pulling the gun down and waiting for the sighting system to be however close to the point of aim as you desire, but for predictive shooting you have to be able to control that gun without making multiple sight pictures and I can’t find an explanation of how you do that. Saying you do it with your eyes just sounds like an oversimplification that skips all minute details of recoil control which are automatic for you but I have no idea about. In a recent video you demoed letting the gun rise and not pulling it down and later shot fast doubles and there was a clear different in maximum height, the faster you shoot the flatter so I’m super curious to what the secret to that is? So preferably a video going over grip (which seems as simple as tight and consistent) but more importantly stance and arms as they relate to recoil, both how you utilize them when static before shooting and what you do with the parts of your body under recoil.
@georgekromidas50976 ай бұрын
He’s subconsciously controlling recoil. When you have consistent technique the gun recoils consistently and predictably. Eventually the brain learns over time how to compensate for it, all you need to do is look where you want the bullets to go and your brain does the rest assuming consistent technique. If it’s not consistent, what your body needs to do to compensate for recoil changes, and that messes it up. Your subconscious is often times a lot better at doing something than you are, and recoil control is one of those things. Ik that sounds weird and possibly counterintuitive but that’s what it is from what I’ve found. It seems strange that to be better at controlling recoil you have to not focus on it specifically, but that’s what it is. You’ll notice if you watch enough of his videos that he jerks the gun when he’s expecting a bang but it’s actually an empty chamber or a misfire, this is because his brain has learned how to compensate for the recoil and when the gun goes off.
@MatthewC1766 ай бұрын
@@georgekromidas5097 I completely understand and agree with that but he had to do something when he started shooting and recoil control was a conscious matter for him. That’s what I want to know, as well as an breakdown of what he subconsciously does today, like having him shoot a bill drill while paying attention to his manipulations of the gun and explaining what he observes
@bobb84236 ай бұрын
What am I doing wrong to cause pain in my support for arm? The top mussel is screaming.
@DirtMcGirk6 ай бұрын
@@bobb8423 The muscles in your support arm appear to be weak from what I read. I’d work on some grip strengthening exercises and remember to do some forearm/wrist stretches often.
@BenStoeger1876 ай бұрын
I have scheduled a recoil control video for release tomorrow.