Ben Stoeger on recoil control

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[@jpay37]

Amazing. Years of fighting recoil, other instructors with clamp down, bear down, torque, crank this, lean into it, everything tense and fighting the gun, etc, etc and I was consistently shooting the second shot of a double low. Using knowledge from the past few weeks of these videos I’m shooting more relaxed, splits are faster, and I’m no longer driving the gun down. Still have work to do to get rid of those training scars but I’m getting there. Thanks Ben.

[@TheAxe4Ever]

Damn good shit! Love these videos. Of course it would be better attending a full class in person, but just these short videos are extremely helpful. No “tricks”. No “tacticool” BS. No made up fancy words. Just plain, concise and common sense instruction.

[@pastapaul150]

You have been putting out so much valuable information. Thank you.

[@JaredAF]

OK I'm super glad that you've confirmed kind of what I had to figure out for myself in my training/practice. I compete in Bullseye which is fairly different, but for awhile I was being very, very tense in the rapid/timed fire strings and would find most of my shots going in the 9/10/X ring and about 2 or 3 of them going into the 7 or even 6 ring. One day I decided I'm just going to NOT focus on "controlling recoil" at all. I gripped the pistol super loosely and just focused on getting the sights back on target and on having proper trigger control and, even though the gun was going way, way up after every shot, I would recover, get my sight picture/sight alignment, and fire again. That's when I started to print groups that were all in the 9 and 10 rings with the occasional out in the 8 or a scratch 9. I was focused way too much on reducing the overall amount of muzzle rise rather than recovering and getting back on target, which is the real meaning of "recoil control," not controlling the direction or overall rise of the muzzle. I've sort of evolved into only gripping the pistol tightly but don't focus at all on tensing up really any other part of my body. It seems just gripping the gun tighly in your hand is the biggest contributor to controlling muzzle rise. Yesterday I just had a 99/100 target in timed fire practice with the overall group size at about 3.5" at 25 yds.

[@Seseous]

Hey man, sorry to jump you like this, but I'm wondering if there is a good place to find Bullseye matches? I've been looking forever, none seem to be close to me, but I haven't found a good central repository of matches like Practiscore or whatnot. Any advice? Thanks!

[@JaredAF]

@@Seseous Look up the cmp competition tracker

[@LuckDuckPedals]

I had the same realization last time at the range and did the same exact thing: stopped over-focusing on how tight my grip was, relaxed, fixed on straight back trigger pull, and sight picture. Made me shoot about 40% better

[@rdez11]

You are a genius. I really appreciate what you’re sharing. It has really helped me.

[@davidhoward9722]

Amazing content. Much better than the dry fire books !

[@amiltomx]

Another gold lesson. Thank you Ben!

[@seltiks911]

Amazing education. Free ! Absolutely will be taking a class

[@shiftd_1114]

Another example of great instructing /teaching and most importantly demonstrating - 🙌

[@familycollected3774]

Can’t wait for the chance to train in this course

[@GallantryDynamics]

Amazing Instruction 💪👍

[@clutchshot3306]

Thanks again, Ben, for this insight.

[@Mr3dperformance]

I like those drills. Thank you! Going to do that at the range tomorrow. Just got the Apex trigger on my M&P 2.0 today and need to practice multiples

[@Uncommonsenses]

Great stuff! Absolutely taking this to the range on my next trip.

[@keithtwill6140]

Thanks Ben, the forcing down on second shot is exactly what I am doing. Now I have a drill to work on. Much appreicated.

[@JG-di5gu]

Watching these videos just makes me want to take your class more. You have a good way in demonstrating and teaching for the student to grasp. Awesome video and content!!

[@TheBuffaloBlues]

Thank you🙏🏻

[@SEAKPhotog]

Great stuff. I've just started to embrace being target focused vs dot focused and damn, it makes a difference! I'm already on board with not going crazy fighting recoil and just finding your more or less relaxed grip happy place. That makes a big difference as well. Altho I do tend to to better rotating my arms out a bit and I admit I'm a thumbs on the safety and frame kinda guy.

[@kman12275]

Wow yeah this is gold. Most gun teachers really struggle to put into words what they are actually doing and you have to guess like crazy. This feels so much better i wish I was at the range right now to try it all

[@BHRxRACER]

The last few seconds were pure comedy

[@eddiepereira9628]

Awesome info. Thanks. Who needs a compensator or porting ? With your proper grip, staring at the spot, and letting the gun return predicable no one does.

[@hopewilliams6705]

I'm just learning how to get my eyes in front of the gun on transitions and it does feel slow.

[@stevenkennedy4130]

John Lovell, take note.

[@whliving]

Great content Ben! Maybe you should consider writing a book 😂.

[@n4d3m4n]

This is such a divergence from everyone else I've seen in the instructor community. I think you just pissed off every company that makes compensators, and every grip bro that says to smash the gun. From my own dry fire, i feel like the reason to have any strength in my grip, besides loosing control of the gun in recoil, is to pin my middle finger from squeezing the grip and throwing the shot. Does that sound right?

[@ifly64s]

In his last video he discussed releasing your middle finger to throw a bird then return it to the gun.. Meaning, that your little finger and ring finger are held tight with your middle finger held light enough to remove it up and back from your grip. This he said allows your middle finger grip to not affect your trigger finger.

[@_johnm]

"All this work... That is the work of an idiot. That's not helping." 🙂

[@TheMaini89]

Love ur vids…take better care of urself eat better…fuck the convient food options while traveling

[@user-ms3lw3gi4f]

👍

[@cnclife2739]

I would think it would be better if the dot doesn't leave the window and us predictable, compared to being predictable and leaving the window. I would think you can shoot faster with less muzzle flip.

[@MADDOG100ful]

A open gun with a compensator you'll keep the red dot inside the window put on a normal production gun it's nearly impossible

[@rsmoz]

How do you manage being consistent and repeatable when you switch between guns with different grip angles, with different optics?

[@ShootingSportsandAccesso-sd9li]

Ben adjusts the hangers on his holsters so that the grips are all at the same angle with respect to his belt and uses techniques that let him maintain the same grip across different guns (thumbs not touching the gun, for example).

[@rsmoz]

@@ShootingSportsandAccesso-sd9li Thanks! What about in terms of getting the optic presented to the right spot? It's of course different for the grip angles between the Shadow 2 and G34s he uses.

[@crypto1300]

Aloha from Hawaii's 2A community 🤙🏾

[@TheAxe4Ever]

I’m curious. Is it true you can only carry with a permission slip from the county and that permission slip is only good in the county you reside in?

[@crypto1300]

@@TheAxe4Ever yup, it sucks. But, each island is a different county, so in practice, it's not that bad if u don't travel between islands a lot.

[@kauaifishingtales]

Kauai checking in 🤙🏽

[@reker.a5790]

@@crypto1300they have a 2a community? Lol

[@HWG-wm8ld]

I’m sure there is an illegal 2a community

[@garyvalenti1019]

Ben, Can I buy the same holster you use for you G34

[@lordhellfire153]

Bet it's in his Pro Shop

[@garyvalenti1019]

@@lordhellfire153 I want the same color with Ben's logo on it. I went to the pro shop and very limited stock (no glock). Went to the holster company but could not find the exact one. I'm going to email the holster company.

[@Slayingmango]

omg im first

[@elfucho]

You weren't 😂

[@Shadow__133]

You weren't. But congrats on being second! 🥈 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻

[@Slayingmango]

@@Shadow__133 somehow this is even better.

[@Shadow__133]

@@Slayingmango Well deserved. 👍 And, like Ben would say, you can do it faster next time!

[@bjf25-v8w]

Great tips but for me as a learner this is information overload. Should break up the instructions, have students demonstrate, then move onto the next exercise. Cheers!

[@troubleman8189]

Not everyone is slow

[@MrCrimsonKing]

This is from a class where shooters are paying to get instruction from a world class champion. He just puts this online cuz he's a nice guy. Just soak it in, go try stuff, then watch it again.

[@HWG-wm8ld]

Take a class then be critical.

[@MrCrimsonKing]

@@HWG-wm8ld I didn't read this as critical.. just a misunderstanding of what this is - a short clip from a paid class

[@DPBida]

⁠​⁠@@MrCrimsonKingexcept I don’t think he’s talking about the online content. I took it as him saying *if he was at the class* it would be information overload. Not that getting all these videos is that. 😂