BenaBadBeat is DISGUSTED by My Live Hands! Part 1 | Live £1/£2 Cash Game Review #2

[@dot333333]

Would love more of these live reviews. I'm a decently winning online player, but im not great at maximizing live earnings. Im always suspicious of advice from live grinders just because they usually lack A good theory background. So it's great to see BenaBadBeat review these.

[@eastyyy22]

Glad you liked it! Part 2 coming soon and we'll see what we can do about more of these in the future!

[@Hildreth1101]

I don't think I want to travel as far as Aspers in Stratford to play live, seems like a lot of work..... "So the SB folds, we check our AJ, goes check, check, check and the BU also folds without any bets being made, we lost 2 players on the flop". ....*googles hotels near Stratford*.

[@eastyyy22]

hahahaha this was one of my favourite hand histories to write up. Would be good to see you down there some day mate!

[@Upbeatpkr]

Awesome to see some live content on the channel and always great to hear Bena's input. Well done! Can't wait for part 2! *get your Bena's out in chat!!!*

[@eastyyy22]

Thanks mate! Whenever I speak to Bena, I realise all my sketchy plays I thought had merit just don't lol

[@stuartfoster1517]

Great to see some content about live hands. In theory, it shouldn't be a different game, but it very much is. Learned lots from this and looking forwrard to the next one.

[@FefeLeVrai]

I'm honestly not convinced about this logic of checking range oop as the preflop raiser. I feel it's only based on solver output in spots like single raise pots UTG vs BU where the solver checks range. But the reason the solver checks range has nothing to do with being oop as the preflop raiser, it's only because the BU flatting range should be significantly tighter than your open range, so you check because you're at a range disadvantage. However the assumption that your opponent's flatting range is tighter than your open range is completely wrong in reality, GTO flatting range is like 8% of hands, while your average fish's flatting range is over 40% of hands. So if you want to run this actual spot in solver you have to put omega whale on his actual preflop range. And when you do, I'm pretty sure the solver cbets a lot of hands if not all of them as you have an overwhelming range advantage.

[@dot333333]

This is a valid point. A couple things I would add tho are that: 1) range checking oop is often a small mistake at worst. Most times I've node locked an oop pfr to range check, even against a wide calling range, the EV difference is small or negligible. 2) the average player constructs their betting ranges much more poorly than their calling range. A lot of players bet overly merged when checked to, which can be countered by over folding and over raising. This also leaves there check back range weak. But if you bet theses same players won't make as big of a mistake.

[@BenjaminRaven]

fwiw checking range oop as a blanket statement is very incorrect - i'm not sure if i said we should be range checking oop as pfr. if i did, then that's my bad. There are plenty of boards where oop should have a cbetting range vs an ip cc (albeit low frequency/sizing almost exclusively). I do tend to agree with some of what you have said about Omega's cc, however you need to consider other important factors such as Omega over/under stabbing which allows us to; over realise our no equity hands, check raise marginal/vulnerable hands that don't want to play vs such a player type at big SPR's, and most importantly, allowing Omega to define their range, and therefore allowing us to adjust our strategy accordingly. I think what i'm saying is that by checking to an erratic player more often than not (again, not every time, but a lot) will generally yield a higher EV (not in theory, but it raw $$$) than cbetting.

[@adamkimberley2575]

I would love to give live play a go but I just get way too nervous. I'd probably end up dusting it all off within 10 minutes and then crying at the table like small child. Great video, as always!

[@eastyyy22]

You get used to it quite quickly! Thanks man.

[@ratoverboard]

Great to see Bena in another video. Are you making many live reads yet? Don't forget what Doyle said: You can tell a lot about a man's cards by the way he reaches for his pistol

[@eastyyy22]

hahaha unfortunately I do dip in to the LiVE ReAdS and Ben is not pleased

[@MrDizew]

@@eastyyy22 :D

[@francisjackson7041]

how much would you say is a big enough bankroll to play 1/2 500 max live?

[@eastyyy22]

Haven't really thought about it and probably not the person to ask but I guess 10k?

[@thatguywhocooks]

I would say if you're CONFIDENT you're crushing that game, you can get away with 15 buy ins, I'd recommend 20-25 though

[@rdillon5212]

Amazing content mate, Bens reaction is priceless in some of these 😂

[@eastyyy22]

Not a happy guy 😅

[@consumer61]

Was this in Aspers? Where was this played?

[@eastyyy22]

Yeah Aspers

[@NLHero]

I'm doing well at live 1/2 using a limp-reraise only strat to clean up all the dead money and weak ISO ranges

[@Stefanburakov]

In some live games its a great idea

[@tobyc8905]

Love these live reviews, very useful

[@eastyyy22]

Glad you like it bud!

[@Charlie_Ses]

Great content nick and bena. Bena plays a different game to most of us. Surprised at the amount of checking the flop even as the pre flop aggressor with a decent pocket pair on a not too scary board. I get the checking for value to check-raise though. Will have to mull that one over. Playing live is so difficult compared to online, you encounter players you never normally come across and they can start getting you doing things you'd never consider online. Bit of a head fcuk.

[@eastyyy22]

I'm starting to think Ben just hates betting...

[@Stefanburakov]

A board You should win smal pots on and loose big...

[@nat2r]

This is very interesting to me Nick, as I find live to be EXTREMELY easy compared to online play.

[@mantaspetras]

Hey, Bena, on 9:10 I kinda disagree with checking JJ. You probably want to lean towards checking higher pocket pairs since chch (which will happen a lot vs passive player) is a very bad result for our hand because we need quite some protection. I’d be looking to ch KK AA, some QQ with a club and just bet big JJ

[@BenjaminRaven]

totally agree with this ordinarily but we've seen this player to be quite erratic and bet happy. i just like to fully take advantage of that fact. agree that the higher pp's will be even more incentivised to check

[@zqpeng95]

BenaLiveBeat not too happy with your hands, all good though you’re gonna grind it all back!

[@eastyyy22]

That's the plan buddy!

[@alaboulangerie]

As someone whos guilty of misadjusting vs players like omegawhale, it was gd to hear ben define ur overcalling as the whale owning u. Some v v gd advice, u r v v v lucky to have someone like him. Would be fun to play with u someday

[@mcpartridgeboy]

29:44 why are you checking here ? isnt this an easy bluff ? the fact your both so confident about a check is really worrying because i would bluff that 100% of the time.

[@patricklawler6564]

not even sure i should be looking forward to this

[@eastyyy22]

you can hide behind me as I am in the firing line, no time for anyone else lol

[@michaelcourtney5064]

You are the thumbnail king!

[@eastyyy22]

Thanks bud, and thanks again for the hands!

[@michaelcourtney5064]

@@eastyyy22 Your very welcome mate. Loving the video.

[@frankovercrest2317]

You've started during the lockdowns right? Your progress is inspiring

[@eastyyy22]

Not sure if you mean poker or content? Poker been playing a while but only really got into it properly then yes. Content around this time last year! I don't think this is the best display of my progression in poker though lol

[@lucienaveiro4861]

Eastyyy Station 22 in the House Ladies and Gentlemen!

[@eastyyy22]

Just can't fold a hand man ffs.

[@smittrivedi8170]

Q9s river shove would have been a smit approved play

[@eastyyy22]

hahaha well if I couldn't get it Smit approved then I've got no chance.

[@amitioJ]

Where did you play this session? I want to play with the omega whale 🐳

[@eastyyy22]

Stratford Aspers but I don't think he has any money left!

[@alphabett66]

I don't think you can open T9s 5x 7 handed. As BTN and CO call more, the tighter you need to play. If IP cold calls >15 you get fucking owned by the rake, and both players lose in relation to their initial investment.

[@eastyyy22]

Personally always opening this but I'm open to being wrong!

[@alphabett66]

@@eastyyy22 Here is the long answer. How to SIM this spot is to vary opening, and cold calling ranges in PIO. 25 flop subset should be enough to get an idea if the question is "what is the the minumum positive ev strategy." To get into the ev maximizing answers without monker solver, more flop subsets will be needed, but I don't think it's too relevant for such a crude simplification. 6 max high rake gives 100% frequency to T9s UTG vs optimal 200nl + BTN cold calling, but it's on the cusp. I find it highly unlikely that 7 handed vs an overdefending BTN and BB it is profitable after rake.

[@alphabett66]

200+ because below that there should be exactly 0 cold calling. EV decreases as BTN defends because the share of the pot raked increases in relation to hero's steal EV. Prove me wrong if you can, my computer would run for 98,000 hours if I solved for it.

[@dot333333]

Just great content man

[@eastyyy22]

thanks mate!

[@sneakytucky]

quality stuff! loved it

[@eastyyy22]

thanks lad!

[@Roxz.1]

The vid would have been over at 33:00 if you didn't fold that Q9s hand haha

[@eastyyy22]

The vid and my career lad 😅

[@samu5381]

absolutely gold! please keep milking this crusher

[@frochi]

If you were honestly considering to make Q9c to a bluff in order to isolate the whale while holding 3rd pair on a flushy and straighty board.. with a solid reg that you know has a hand behind you.. man.. you might be the whale :P

[@keithmachin140]

I'm sure this'll be a good one. You are so lucky to have Bena contracted to you for many more years to come!

[@eastyyy22]

thanks man, lifetime contract!

[@ivanwong8281]

Ben is obviously a great great player but i think he might be too used to online 6max ranges. QQ and JJ may be checks if it is an online reg game but they should be very fine to bet vs loose ranges even if it is mw

[@BenjaminRaven]

hey mate. I'm not sure that oop live is really any different to online? you can use similar logic for checking as you have given for betting; if they're loose then would they not have a lot more air which we gain value from when we check? I could be misunderstanding something here though so lemme know!

[@ivanwong8281]

@@BenjaminRaven hi ben I’m a big fan, much respect. my logic is based on the premise that our betting frequency generally goes up vs loose ranges. Eg when we opens from CO and opponent cold calls from BTN, our cbet% is low as opponent has a more condensed/tight range. When we 3bet from SB vs btn open and defend, our cbet% is higher than the previous scenario because the relative strength of our range vs opponent’s range is stronger in this case. Now if we go back to the CO vs BTN cc scenario and assign BTN a very wide non-GTO range then run the sim, our cbet% should become higher. Obviously if we assume opponent is stabbing way too much (compared with solver), our EV of check raising goes up but this would be an exploit play. Hope this makes sense and interested in learning from you if you disagree with the above.

[@Ashley-wl3xw]

Great content :)

[@eastyyy22]

Thanks lad

[@Stefanburakov]

QQ hand, completly agree with bena..

[@Stefanburakov]

without see the video how can he not be disguseed live poker is so terrible watch so my eyes bleed

[@franky9658]

34:48 that’s what she said lmao

[@spikes20]

Any casinos here let u video on table like the vloggers in US?

[@eastyyy22]

Not that I am aware of!

[@BenjaminRaven]

#archives

[@BenjaminRaven]

first as always

[@eastyyy22]

the legend himself